Discussion of Free and Open Source Diffusion ModelsPrev: >>108196041https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide>UIComfyUI: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUISwarmUI: https://github.com/mcmonkeyprojects/SwarmUIre/Forge/Classic/Neo: https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide#reforgeclassicneoSD.Next: https://github.com/vladmandic/sdnextWan2GP: https://github.com/deepbeepmeep/Wan2GP>Checkpoints, LoRAs, Upscalers, & Workflowshttps://civitai.comhttps://civitaiarchive.com/https://openmodeldb.infohttps://openart.ai/workflows>Tuninghttps://github.com/spacepxl/demystifying-sd-finetuninghttps://github.com/ostris/ai-toolkithttps://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainerhttps://github.com/kohya-ss/musubi-tunerhttps://github.com/tdrussell/diffusion-pipe>Zhttps://huggingface.co/Tongyi-MAI/Z-Imagehttps://huggingface.co/Tongyi-MAI/Z-Image-Turbo>Animahttps://huggingface.co/circlestone-labs/Animahttps://thetacursed.github.io/Anima-Style-Explorer/>Kleinhttps://huggingface.co/collections/black-forest-labs/flux2>LTX-2https://huggingface.co/Lightricks/LTX-2>Wanhttps://github.com/Wan-Video/Wan2.2>Chromahttps://huggingface.co/lodestones/Chroma1-Basehttps://rentry.org/mvu52t46>Illustrioushttps://rentry.org/comfyui_guide_1girlhttps://tagexplorer.github.io/>MiscLocal Model Meta: https://rentry.org/localmodelsmetaShare Metadata: https://catbox.moe | https://litterbox.catbox.moe/GPU Benchmarks: https://chimolog.co/bto-gpu-stable-diffusion-specs/Img2Prompt: https://huggingface.co/spaces/fancyfeast/joy-caption-beta-oneTxt2Img Plugin: https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusionArchive: https://rentry.org/sdg-linkCollage: https://rentry.org/ldgcollage>Neighbors>>>/aco/csdg>>>/b/degen>>>/r/realistic+parody>>>/gif/vdg>>>/d/ddg>>>/e/edg>>>/h/hdg>>>/trash/slop>>>/vt/vtai>>>/u/udg>Local Text>>>/g/lmg>Maintain Thread Qualityhttps://rentry.org/debohttps://rentry.org/animanon
>>108203172meh collagethx 4 bake
>>108203180you're welcome anime2liveaction anon
>>108203172alternate fagollage>>108203193:)
>>108203209>just notice the medal one was actually gettyimageslmao fucking thumbnails BETRAY
>>108203193why impersonate me tho
>>108203479sorry about that just bantering
Klein learns fast as fuckOnly 1000 steps into 4B Alina Habba lora on this epoch sample
>>108203626looks slopped as fuck
>>108203634shut up ani
>>108203626good evening saar
>>108203209thanks for a producing a far superior collage than the garbage the op posted.
>>108203172why isn't the tran rentry in maintain thread quality? he ruined all the diffusion threads yesterday being an insufferable faggot
kill ani
Blessed thread of frenship
>>108203795Which model?
what are the proper setting for z image base hi res fix? using forge neo.
i keep getting weird tile defects with hi res fix.
>>108203172Thank you for baking this schizo drama thread>>108203838Thank you for blessing this schizo drama thread
>>108203578cute
>>108204014Cute boy
>>108204014can you explain you settings please anon. are you using hires fix for z image base?
>>108204044yeah
>>108203772i mean, beats posting LE PEPE XD, so im still happy about something that resembles a collage, I'm also a bit conflicted because at the same time we shouldnt encourage the mentally ill genners least we turn this into sdg v2 with all the namefagging
>>108204118Obsessing with and fighting over collages/highlights is a part of it, so congrats you're on your way there.
>Maintain Thread Quality>https://rentry.org/debo>https://rentry.org/animanonwhat are these links? they don't seem to have anything to do with image diffusion
>>108204161shame you didn't choke on your mother's shit at birth, cretin
>>108204161You put them there so you should know something about it
>>108204175Holyyy sh*t
That's a really nice sofa.
well shit i think i finally figured out a decent way to caption my character datasetsnow my only question is what model to train the lora on (24gb 3090 if that matters)>ZiB has a better overall look but also has a lot of random artefacts>ZiT doesn't have as much artefacting but its distilled nature stops it from representing certain things accurately>qwen has better knowledge and not as much artefacting but also has that "ai sheen" to it and is a pain to fit on 24gb, needing quantsnot sure about any others - what would be the best option(s) and why?
>>108204231Personally, for loras currently my first choice is ZIB, my second choice is Klein9Bb. But all this is while waiting for a full finetune of something anyway.
>>108204043Uhh>>108204044>settingsComfyUI and sa_solver_pece/simple 4-8 steps and this distill lora that came out a few days ago https://huggingface.co/GuangyuanSD/Z-Image-Distilled/blob/main/RedCraft-RedZDX-v3-ZIB-Distilled-Lucis-LoRA-r256.safetensors>Prompt executed in 25.84 seconds
>>108204237Anyone's baking a Zib finetune already?
>>108200708only you can carry out such a noble task
>>108204278Not that I would know.Someone might do something crappy but real and first on a bunch of shitty consumer cards or waste a few hundreds renting, it might get recognition and praise. But to evolve and reach further he'd need more resources, and resources cost money, and so then he sells out or perishes back into oblivion. It's always that sad. And after seeing both, from the sidelines, granted, the latter is better because in case of the former the result is far from the high ideals of the original, as they appear to an onlooker. Maybe that someone had other plans all along, or has successfully convinced himself he did after selling out. It's all subjective. We, doing nothing with nothing, have no choice but to wait and see if someone does something.
>>108204347
>>108204351kek
>>108204185No, I believe they were written and put there by an avatarfag known as catjak, which is strange because I thought /ldg/ was created to escape avatarfags
>>108204498Tranussytudio status?Grant status?
>genning with anima>three legs>put 'extra limbs' in negative>still three legs >:^(
>>108204520Let me guess, the solution is giving yo- I mean Jul- I mean Ani a million dollars
anima status?
>>108204535Makes Julien axewound itch
>>108204535great
>>108204535flopped. fewer anima loras on civit than in the early days, and that apache 2 license is weighing it down hard.
>>108204556Yes, people are realizing that. That’s why famous shitmergers aren’t touching Anima at all. No one’s going to do charity work if they can’t at least recover the money they invested, this is just one example among many in Civit.
>>108204629keep sneething retard
>>108204629>chroma 2 based on Klein 4b hehe
>>108204629Wow you really hate dual licensesUnrelated but what's your opinion on tranussytudio?
>>108204629Sire, the jeets are revolting.
>>108204629That makes some sense, but it depends on who established the license. Was it Nvidia or Comfy?
>>108204709If it's a tune of cosmos then it just inherits the og license from it, no?
>>108204629It’s not a license issue but profit from shitmerges, why improve anything when SDXL offers the best return on investment?
>people are realizing that>screenshot of some literal who plebbitor blabbing nonsense okay
>>108204274how about the hi res fix settings? forge neo doesn't have solver pece sampler :(
>>108204750If Cosmos is Nvidia, then it’s dead on arrival. Laxhar was a random Chinese student whose university funded the project and then walked away. Nvidia is an active corpo that will strictly enforce its rules on anyone trying to profit. So that CivitAI message could reflect the overall situation with Anima.
>>108204750>literal who plebbitorOnly amatuer people like that will fine tune Anima knowing there’s no profit. Your beloved shitmergers won’t touch a model they can’t monetize, sorry.
>>108204770are you gonna spend all thread bitching about anima? comfy isnt giving u and mcretardo the grant anyway, fucking retard, stop shitting up the thread
>>108204780This is on topic and local.Topic: profit and famous CivitAI local shitmergers, will Anima get fine tuned or not? If (you) where WAI0731, will you spend money training a model that will give you $0?
>finetuners >WAI>WAI is a finetunercome on anon kek
anima deez nuts
>>108204780>>108204813Not Julien, this >>108204804 is about open source and profit relationship, finetune or shitmerge or whatever. The point I'm trying to discuss in this local diffusion thread is: the relationship of profit and opensource.
>hurr durrill just post 1girl
>hurr durr comfy did nothing wrong
>>108204835it would help if you at least knew the basics lurk more newfren
>>108204629>I'm fine with dual licensesBut you clearly aren't? I don't understand. The Anima license is literally just clarifying that any platform that has a commercial license can also use community loras. So exactly like with Flux, LTX, and any other model with a noncommercial license. Civit is, right now, using people's Flux loras commercially, since you can select any lora to use with the paid on site generator.I think people are just mad they can't grift shitmixes. And I get it. If Anima allowed profiting off derivatives, someone would shitmix in a bunch of loras (WAI), slap their own noncommercial license on it, everyone would use that mix, and the original Anima devs would make no money despite doing 99% of the work.
>>108204845Based.
>>108204804>If (you) where WAI0731, will you spend money training a model that will give you $0?If (you) were the Anima dev, would you spend money training a model where random shitmixers will be the ones to profit off it instead of you?
>>108204872Just look at the gap between base Illustrious/Noob and current models driven by profit, you like it? Well, that won’t happen with Anima because of the license. Anima is a DOA, It's over. If Comfy doesn’t inject money into it regularly to improve it, no one will.
>>108204912Neat
>>108204917>NoobNoob also has a noncommercial license that applies to all derivatives. It is even more restrictive than Anima's (it bans all commercial use even of generated images). It doesn't look to me like this is stopping people from making a lot of loras and finetunes of Noob.
>>108204941>>108204761> university funded the project and then walked away. Nvidia is an active corpo
>>108204899What happened next between them?
>>108204917I can settle for making custom loras for new characters as they come out. Let’s hope the final version of Anima is at least objectively better than SDXL in every aspect.
>>108204953>deflectingWhat the fuck does Nvidia have to do with any of this? The Cosmos license is a permissive license that allows commercial use and sublicensing with different terms, which is why Anima is allowed to make its own custom license.
>>108204917>the gapBase Illustrious vs Noob, there's a gap the size of a furfag's blownout ass. I prefer base. And yet between it and whichever merge is the last in a long long line of incestous merges "driven by profit" there's no difference, it remains SDXL.And people experimenting work with the base, and it's regretfully fruitless since it's still SDXL.
>people still replying to the retard bitching about the licensehe's just waiting for the right moment to self-promote his non existant tranime model with muh apache2 license once he estabilishes that ANIMA LICENSE BAD END OF THE WORLDSTOP FUCKING REPLYING TO HIM
>>108204976>Base Illustrious vs Noob,You misunderstood my point. I mean the gap from base Illustrious —(profit driven gap)—> 2026 Illustrious shitmerges, and from base Noob —(profit driven gap)—> 2026 Noob shitmerges
>nooo don’t discuss anime on an anime site, I’m uncomfortable, I’ll post 3D thots to assert 3D dominance
>>108204980>STOP FUCKING REPLYING TO HIManons propensity to reply to obvious b8 knows no bounds
why the fuck did i ever update shit fuck this fuck, i can't generate shit, where is the original sd web ui? it got taken off?
>>108205027Time for you to get comfy, blud.
>>108204993>and from base Noob —(profit driven gap)—> 2026 Noob shitmerges>profit driven gapOk I know at this point I'm responding to bait and/or bad faith arguments, but just to reiterate and make it overwhelmingly clear:Noob has a noncommercial license that applies to it and all derivatives (including loras). NOBODY except the Noob team is allowed to profit off of Noob.
>>108205027forge neo
>>108204872So why doesn't Anima do that last 1% of work themselves then? It's only 1% after all, surely they can do that little extra legwork and then reap all the benefits?
>>108204993Right, the gap is tiny to none.Compare another plebeian choice of the past, mine too, autismmix, or any other ponyV6 merge you want, to Illustrious or its successors. Much better aesthetics, cleaner artist knowledge, marginally better prompt following. I wouldn't go back, of course. But it's still SDXL. By today's standards, shitty CLIP, shitty VAE. Still unmatched control methods though.If they finish baking Anima it'll be just about the same, maybe with a couple loras slapped on top, as any potential shitmerge based on it.More important is the knowledge. Supposedly it was cheap since it's small? That means not only the next proverbial Noob team could have spent less on finetuning Anima, but they could spend not that much on creating their own base and monetizing the shit out of that instead.
>>108205040i have comfy, my 5s coomer clip workflow stopped working after i updated>>108205052gonna try this
>>108205068Update the nodes or change the out of date ones for some alternative ones that are up to date.
>just ignore the lolcow
enter4girls
>>108205124that guy on civit is not ani but ani saw it earlier than everyone else
>>108205124cant even spell in english lmao
>>108203034>>108203039Box please. Just to reproduce the style (model, artists, lora names).
>>108205315here's the prompt:>shitty art made by tumblr faggots, it needs to be socal maxxed and look like literal danger hair faggotryno loras, klein 9b
>>108205080i did, i'm getting this error even after updating gpu drivers and making sure that vc package is installed
>>108205377pic rel
>>108205405hot more of her please
>>108204899>>108204960>>108205405overcooked
>>108204306>plezNay>>108204756>how about the hi res fix settings? forge neo doesn't have solver pece sampler :(One pass, no external plugins. It's time you faced the spaghetti monster>>108205405pikaception
>>108205326you've done him
so anima was a failure?
>>108205432no, ani
>>108205430>offbrand mayli
>>108205408:) i using qwen3 vl for captioning a image into text prompts.>>108205421i disagree but here are my settings: Steps: 12, Sampler: Euler, Schedule type: FlowMatchEulerDiscrete, CFG scale: 1.5, Shift: 6, Seed: 1275591717, Size: 1152x1600, Model hash: 165401cf8f, Model: hybridCore812Steps_v10, Clip skip: 2, Version: neo, Module 1: zImageBase_vae, Module 2: zImage_textEncoder
Does training the text encoder do anything? Or is it some tag-based relic?
>>108205460they are 100% overcooked>hybridCore812Steps_v10>using unironic slopmergesmaybe its the shitmerge? try doing it 10 steps
>>108205482relic
>>108205486he doesnt see them as overcooked thus wont care to change anything desu
>>108205460>CFG scale: 1.5, Shift: 6
>>108205486this is 8 steps
>>108205460>i disagreeExtremely cooked>>108205503Still cooked.
>>108205482Good luck training llms.
>>108205494That's based. Schizos in AI threads vaguely complaining about some visual aspects of gens failing to recognize that it's either a style or the way the poster likes it is a classic, and shouldn't be taken seriously. In the end, it's all some throaway AI slop not some serious high brow art, so who fucking cares, stfu.
>>108205430oh i seeyou're a chinkand you're seething that liu won kek
>>108205500>>108205518is the shift being set ay 6 a problem?
>>108205595"normal" shift is 3 and cfg at least 3 or are you using the speed lora? 1.5 is raw dough
i don't get why people think anima is shitit's honestly fine? happy it exists
>>108205595How do you not see that your gens are cooked?
>>108205658it's one delusional worm thinking comfy will give him a million dollar grant if he fuds enough
>>108205685oh i seeso better to just ignore the sperg, thank you anon
>>108205446>offbrand maylikek. I miss seeing her in formal dress too>>108205585>only you can carry out such a noble task>and you're seething that liu won>if flattery won't work, I'll try insultslul. White Republican. The under lip piercing is what made me say no. Basically a formula for gum decay and arguments about gibs for the low IQ. Gross
>still deflecting all criticism to his convenient boogeyman
Man, the AI threads on /gif/ are so depressing. I don't understand how people can post 10+ variations of their garbage slop gens and think "yeah. this is good stuff right there."
>>108205777bugperson is beginning to realize the world is full of bugpeople now you understand why elites view us as trash
>>108205546+5 izzat
>>108205633moved the shift back to 3 with cfg still being 1.5. now speed loras being used and no loras being used at all. i'm using Sampler: Euler, Schedule type: FlowMatchEulerDiscrete. The image looks fine to time.
>>108205823Are you prompting anything about lighting and shit?
>>108205823use CFG 1
>>108205840cfg is now 1. >>108205833"The lighting is bright and diffused, likely from a studio source positioned in front and slightly to her left, casting soft shadows behind her and illuminating her face and costume evenly without harsh highlights."
>>108205860>without harsh highlights.here's your issue. lighting is definitely harsh. don't put negations on your positive prompt.CFG 1 definitely helped a lot.
>>108205860You're on the right track. Do a 1:1 comparison between your old and new settings with the prompt from >>108204899 and hopefully it'll better illustrate for you what anon means by overcooked.
>>108205888mama
>>108205869so with qwen3 vl i should emphasize no negations with captioning for images?
>>108200774spergAttn
cozy breas
>>108205888damn bro
>>108205962Comfy, even? :)
>>108205744imagine pinching and yanking that shit from her gums
>>108206020>>108205744Thanks for letting us know you're severely mentally ill I guess?
Is lanczos the go-to for upscaling?
>>108205811moon looks sick here
>>108206032do you have any idea where you are?
>>108206037latent or die
zamn
>>108206020wut, no. I just don't imagine her. ezpz
>>108206134The preview lied to me and now I'm big mad.
Why animecharacters are so creepy from side?
when's qwen image edit 2512 coming out?
Why are poltards like this?
>>108204003melty
On an interesting note, ZIT and Z Image always gen Indians as balding unless specifically prompted otherwise.
>>108206107I use tiled latent with the small pickle.
>>108206354
In ComfyUI, does OR prompting work?Like how would you do "the man is holding a sword or a spear"? I'm not sure if prompting that explicitly works
>>108206369{sword|spear} I think. You can add more.
>>108206369flip a coin, type out the winner
>>108206377thanks. so it'll be random whether it's a sword or a spear, which is what I want.>>108206378I need to queue up 100 gens and any manual intervention is a no go.
>>108206381if you want more this node lets you go wild with ithttps://github.com/asagi4/comfyui-prompt-control/blob/master/doc/basic.mdhttps://github.com/asagi4/comfyui-prompt-control/blob/master/doc/schedules.md
>>108206357prompts and catbox? very good 3dcg mix with pvc style. love the rendering aesthetic.
>>108206454wait wtf r u the 3dcgi pornmaster onsen sloppa?
>>108206454thanks! i use gemini for prompts tb desu https://files.catbox.moe/87otzj.png
>>108200209nice
>>108206540how do i use gemini, it always creates the same character and pose with only a few changes
yuusha bros!
>>108206913>Wong Kar-waiKino
what do we have to look forward to?
>>108207143taco tuesdays
>>108207143WW3 is gonna be fun
>>108207143Someone you like will write to you and that will make your day a little better.
>>108207151>>108207154what local models to look forward to, silly.klein9b/zit didn't seem to generate as much hype/traction as I thought. ltx-2 is not overtaking wan. seedance 2.0 was neutered down to being useless of course. nothing interesting on the horizon so far.guess back to regular wan gooning
>>108206625idk just paste the readme for Anima and tell it what you want.
>>108206377The problem with this is that it may also do both at the same time. So instead of a sword or swear, it may merge them into a sword-spear thing.
>>108207303>it may merge them into a sword-spear thing.Isn't that just generic model issue? They are all pretty bad at any weaponry. I'm pretty sure the syntax works fine, but whatever. Test it with fruit.
>>108207169>seedance 2.0What, did they start censoring it? Not like it's local anyway.
>>108207154download as much as you can before all the submarine cables get cut
>>108207421Good advise, too bad the storage space is about to go through the roof.
>>108207427*storage prices
>>108207169I'm hoping Anima 1.0 fixes some of the preview's current issues (hands, backgrounds, 2MP). Also some weirdly stubborn associations that defy negative prompts, like always sleeping with one knee up, or @as109 and letterboxing.
>>108207617Yeah, sure! A complete version of a 2B model will surely fix all that you mentioned, just like Klein 9, 4, ZiT, and ZiB, yeah! :^)
>>108207399>did they start censoring ityes.
>>108207446it already has. even HDD's are double what they were a month ago. Ironic isn't it. As local AI gen improves, the cost of doing local is becoming increasingly unreachable. You will need to spend $10k-15k in a few years to have a decent rig for doing local. Your average individual that isn't making $100k+ /yr will not be able to afford it.
>>108207443the lighting and scale is just all off on this. it's like she's sitting behind a green screen and someone copy pasted the background on. I also like how the traffic on the street makes no sense. Those cars are going to crash into each other. There's also a white car that seems to be parked parallel to the road, blocking everyone.
>>108207617If you missed the biggest /ldg/ flop with Zeta Image, then Anima 1.0 will probably be the second, just by basic math. Bigger, better funded local models with more parameters have not fixed what you expect Anima to fix.
>>108207143Im really excited for tranima, it can make very natural looking anime images, qwen vae isn't the best but seems like enough
i heard the chinese are stealing ai models and then there was a leak or something, are any of them any good?
that'd imply the west has something worth stealing
>>108207684i don't think this will last, LLMs are turning into a meme. stable diffusion, as good as it is still needs 5-10 years in the oven for it to make a real impact in large scale productions. smaller chinese manufactures will start to fill the void data centers created in the consumer market, then the big guys will move back in out of greed and fear of losing their market share.i doubt prices will drop significantly but the scarcity will stop and prices should stabilize.
>>108208047>fear of losing their market share.Nigga they have every surveillance state's wallet showed in their faces. I don't think they care.
>>108208047Sure hope we get plentiful Chinese GPUs before some shit goes down there when Xi gets old.
>>108208047Can we at least get some cheap decent quality storage from China? I have no hopes for gpus and shit like that.
>>108207715What are you talking about?1. It was expected that z will be shit.2. Skill issues on tongyi side.
>>108208168>>108208047Catty little group of doomer bitches
>>108208199>Catty Nya?
>>108208168>z will be shitStill in copium? The archives say otherwise. Don’t try to erase the past with your finger faggot. It was the most anticipated model after ZiT and was the biggest flop in /ldg/ history.
just the daily FUDing nothing to worry about
Remember when /ldg/ wouldn’t shut up after the big flop about ZiB being “for fine tuning bro” and how they were going to use it for that?So after all this time, where are all those /ldg/ ZiB fine tunes and loras they kept bragging about?
>>108208199They have nothing better to do or are literal bots
>>108208229Yeah yeah, keep telling yourself that, whatever helps you sleep at night. Funny how /ldg/ used to bake four threads a day before Z Image and now it’s struggling to one every two days, but sure nothing changed bro. The big flop it doesn't exist, is like global warming,
>>108208237i'm wondering the same. people were acting like z image base was going to change local and replace SDXL. absolutely nothing happened.guess it was a flop! lol
>>108208229must be newfags
>>108208269>but sure nothing changed brooh that was just the avatarfag catjak who scared everyone off
>>108208272I mean, no one here really makes loras, and obviously no one here has the funds to make finetunes, so I'm not sure what people expected. It was said countless times base wasn't for inference.
>>108207715>>108208047>>108208168>>108208237>>108208269>108208272>108208285Absolute meltie holy
>>108208285I got irked by the questionable compatibility of zit and zib loras and schizo settings so I switched to klein9
