This. So much this.

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>>108203896
>Terrible software with no good alternatives.

>>108204443
fuck...

Photoshop and Lightroom

>>108203896
Hydrus is okay. The only issues I've had with it were collections being fickle to organize.

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>>108204652
>I am a very experienced photographer and NEED all that shit to make artsy filters
no you don't so picrel

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not all software but:
X11, pthreads, json, ssl implementations, and any gui toolkit

>>108203896
Windows 10/11
Android/iOS
Discord
Photoshop/Premiere

>>108203896
It's one of the few pieces of software I'm really happy exists

Calibre. It sucks. But it just werks most of the time.

>>108203896
>>108204410
Just use the original:
https://github.com/danbooru/danbooru

>>108203896
But I like it?

>>108203896
I use tagstudio.
Is it good? No.
But it at least hasn't corrupted my database the way hydrus has.

>>108204652
Photopea

>>108205601
>needs docker to function
>docker: ”error unsupported distribution”
Welp, back to hydrus.
>>108206372
I’ll probably check this out, too. Hydrus is pretty fucky on troonix. I loved it on windows 7.

>>108206598
>Alternatively, you may use the Manual Installation Guide to install Danbooru without Docker.
Can you read?

>>108206712
>not recommended or officially supported

>>108203896
Here your alternative: "Hey Claude generate a booru-style media tagger for me."

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>>108204443
Lie again

>>108206727
>officially supported
You paid for Danbooru? Don't think so.
Either switch to a supported distribution and use Docker or fuck off and use the manual guide.
Try to install Podman as an alternative to Docker, maybe your distro supports it.

What's wrong with Hydrus? I've never used it before, I just use szurubooru instead.

>>108206765
What happens when you update something that depends on something that needs to be a specific version for danbooru to run on and suddenly you’ve fucked your danbooru install.

>>108204483
I literally don't even understand why people like this trash, it's no better than MS teams.

>>108206598
>I’ll probably check this out, too. Hydrus is pretty fucky on troonix. I loved it on windows 7.
It's very fucky on linux. The whole switch happened when I finally left windows for good for me. I had to update it and it was like 40 versions old, they suggest downloading and upgrading the database in steps of 5 versions, which is already retarded as shit. Some point during that the database got corrupted and it all was fucked for me. I didn't feel like debugging it to get it to work or re-doing the migration for software that only kinda works to begin with on linux, so I looked for alternatives.
Tag studio is decent, depending on what you're looking for. I was looking for "software to categorize and tag memes", not a booru specifically, and for that it's quite decent.
A recent update fucked with autocomplete though, and since then multi word tags are a little fucky, but it's "good enough (tm)" for my needs. And the database export is a json, meaning it's easy to repair/adapt, making corruption much less bad than with hydrus, where you're basically shit out of luck.
I suppose it depends on what you need the software to do to decide if it's worth it.

>>108206750
not needed. just plug in your device via usb or use cloud storage/ftp/ssh/etc.

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>>108206802
That is why Docker and virtual machines exist.
It works on my machine™.

>>108203896
One thing I think about a lot is a kind of XML or JSON tagging system. Instead of
>1boy
>1girl
>bikini
>sex
>vaginal
you would see something like
>boy
>girl
>>bikini (modifying girl)
>sex between boy 1 and girl 1
>>vaginal (modifying sex)

>>108205601
Yep, not that hard to run. Documentation could be better though

>>108206929
Tags are for searching, what you want is a description.

>>108207006
Searching for a girl that is on her back, instead of being forced to search for "girl + on_back" and getting a bunch of results with a boy on his back plus a girl standing, seems like a valid use case to me.

>>108207032
1girl on_back -1boy

>>108207056
Sorry, that was a bad example. If you want 1girl 1boy specifically with the girl on her back and the boy standing, there is no way to search for that under the flat tag framework. A hierarchical tagging system is required.

>>108203896
I hate how it wants to import every image to a database. Why can it not just use a directory for the files and then have a metadata database?

>>108207066
you can have tags with relations/children
I don't know if hydrus supports that

>>108206750
I only use it to convert file types when play books throws a bitch fit about some files.

>>108206929
Combining tags should be allowed, I don't see why you can have a query like:
>(girl ∧ bikini)
>(girl ∧ bikini) ¬ short-hair

>>108206821
>It's very fucky on linux
Works on my machine. It's python and sqlite, why wouldn't it? The only thing that annoyed me is that the mpv playback is a hackjob and doesn't work on Wayland, but you can just make it use x11. The only other way its fucky is that it's very desktop centric and doesn't have good automation. If it was designed like a proper linux app it would have automated tagging by now.

Your issues sound like you hit an untested path for sql migration due to trying to hurry through 40 releases. I just let the aur package upgrade me one version at a time and then there's no risk of that. Easiest way to fix would be to restore your backup and upgrade 1 by 1 since that will always be tested. desu I would be much more likely to get lazy about upgrading on Windows since it's a manual thing

I want more advanced tags, like being able to draw a circle around an object and tag it.

>>108207123
Does sound work in hydrus for you? It does not work at all for me and nothing I’ve done or searched for fixes it.

>>108206929
I've mentioned it before, but we really do need an "object" based tagging system, instead of this "scene" based system that all boours are. Then you could accurately search for things when there are multiple people in an image as well as providing some relationship tagging.

All I fucking want is software that allows me to tag files directly using built in metadata fields that files has

Like, I install the software, I can right click a file in my file/folder browser, and part of the dropdown that pops up on right click says "edit file metadata", and then it just displays every possible metadata field and allows me to type whatever in

Why does nothing like this exist

>>108207123
It's been a while, just from memory:
- inconsistent UI, with menus not opening or displaying correctly, or opening but not showing any entries
- broken video playback, often with fucked audio
- corruption of database, arguably the worst offense
>I just let the aur package upgrade me one version at a time and then there's no risk of that
Maybe you're right and that wouldn't be an issue, but as I said I went from windows, which didn't auto update, so I was many versions behind, to linux. Not skipping the versions wasn't really an option.
>Easiest way to fix would be to restore your backup and upgrade 1 by 1 since that will always be tested
It was some shit like 70 or so versions it was an obscene amount. I just couldn't be arsed.
Anyways tag studio works for me so I won't switch back until it breaks, if it works for you then I'm glad it does.

>>108207621
What you want is EXIF. More specifically an EXIF editor, there are plenty of them.

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>>108203896
Consider https://github.com/reasv/panoptikon

>>108208410
Yeah, basically, except

1. I don't just want to edit EXIF fields, but all other possible metadata fields as well.

2. I don't know of any EXIF editor that hooks into the Windows right click menu. If you do, please let me know

>>108208767
looks promising. will give it a shot if it means not going through docker shit or virtual machining around a bunch of sensitive dependencies like with the boorus.

>>108206813
>AYYYYY bruda lets play some counter-strike
>yas'n baus!
>niiiiiice, lets hop on MS teams
>last seen online 7 months ago

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>>108203896
I built my own

>>108207245
Yeah, the AUR package has sound and libmpv working.

>>108208184
Never noticed any issues with menus. Playback is an issue with missing libmpv, I think. I had the issue when I tried to check out the git and use it. That's why I switched to AUR.

>- corruption of database, arguably the worst offense
Also not OS specific. Would have happened like that if you tried to upgrade on Windows too. It is, however, quite dumb that Hydrus does M-N database migration instead of chaining one at a time like a sane program. There should really be a bigger warning that neglecting updates will get you trapped in an old version forever, or having to deal with a massive pita. This is one thing I like about linux doing so many auto updates.

>>108208767
>web shit
Good luck displaying more than 2000 items

>>108206735
leddit is actually a good place for tech discussion but only serious tech discussion not fun tech discussion
for fun tech discussion i have to come to /g/ because there is no alternative on the entire internet. i found that out the hard way during the downtime

>>108209024
hey that's cool
do you have the code available somewhere?

>>108207084
It makes me so fucking angry when it happens

>>108204702
>Photoshop
>Lightroom
>Krita
Each one is entirely different use case.
>to make artsy filters
You have no idea what you're talking about.

>>108209948
All have already been replaced by Affinity

>>108204443
You just refuse to use them

>>108204869

noticed today photoshop elements older than 2018 is difficult to get login

>>108205601
For a single user or small audience, i rather lanraragi.

>>108209489
There's decent alternatives just none in english.

>>108206929
>>>bikini (modifying girl)
i can see limitations for my personal archive already…

>>108206929
Maybe I don't get what you are asking for, but how is that not possible with the current systems?
Most of these programs have tag inheritance and boolean expressions.
So you can look for

boy and girl and bikini and vaginal

, where vaginal pulls in sex due to inheritance anyways.
Attaching tags to specific other tags, what you are hinting at with modifying just feels like a lot more pain to set up and tag for negligible advantage in filtering granularity.

"bikini (modifying girl)" is just another way to search for "bikini ∧ ¬ crossdressing".
"sex between boy 1 and girl 1" is just "sex ∧ ¬group ∧ ¬homosexual"
"vaginal (modifying sex)" is just "vaginal" as sex would be a parent tag anyways.

>>108211931
he's asking for what exhentai is doing with their tags

>>108207373
if you're a real man you'd decide the strict hierarchy of your files into folders. tags exist because most people are too fickle to make choices in life. while an object system would probably be better, it quickly becomes too much work for people to add complex chains of interdependent tags to files. Tags are like the goldylock zone where it's basically unstructured, but because it's easy to add a new tag to a file more files will end up being tagged with as many possible tags, which makes it easier to find the laying woman and her man than if the tagging was left undone for being too arduous.

>>108212154
you are a woman if you neatly organize your files into folders instead of just tagging them like a chad

>>108212164
>i've never been at a woman's place
not sure how ugly you are but women can probably smell you being a fickle bitch.

>>108212189
your mom has a very different opinion of me

Windows never wants to let my external drive go whenever I use Hydrus. Always saying its in use after using Hydrus. Hydrus or Windows is always reading from the drive after closing Hrdrus which prevents me from properly dismounting the drive. Been this way since Window 7 with multiple drives, from internal to external.

>>108204652
>Lightroom
Capture One is superior

>>108212153
>>108212153
I think I get what that guy is talking about, and it's a problem with traits associated to a parent entity. This is a problem with both boorus and panda and it's caused by having tags be a flattened instead of a tree.
Say you want a picture of a plain bookish girl and a gyaru. You could search something like:

2girls glasses braids long_skirt gyaru

But boorus and panda for that kind of query would not care which character the traits belong to, and you could end up with a picture of three people, a boy with glasses, a gyaru with braids and a girl in a long skirt.
I'd like to be able to do searches like:

girl{glasses,braids,long_skirt} girl{gyaru}

and get those traits only on one specific girl, and not any other type of character. Basically matching a tree against a tree instead of a flat tag list against a flat tag list. I'm pretty sure that searching that would be computationally expensive as fuck though.

>>108210082
alt chans dont have features. except for one that may not even be up aymore and ive forgotten the name

>>108207080
sick fuck

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>>108204443
>>108205601
My website will solve the imageboard and booru issue simultaneously.
>>108213103
>alt chans dont have features.
Most of them run on Vichan/Tinyboard forks, so yes. My imageboard does not have this problem.

>Cryptographic Anonymity (Blind signatures - server literally cannot link identity to post)
>No CAPTCHAs (Uses Client-side POW Token Mining instead)
>Invite-only (verified users generate invites for frens)
>Native 4chan X suite (Quick reply, auto-update, thread watcher, gallery view, etc.)
>Multi-file uploads (4+ attachments per post)
>Command Bar (Ctrl+K) with site wide search
>Vim-style Keybindings (J/K nav, extensive shortcuts)
>Native Tegaki inspired drawing tool
>Tag-based and regex filtering
>Integrated Booru (Anons can save images they like posted by other anons to a permanent, tagged archive)
>Semantic Search (Find threads/images by meaning/synonyms)
>AI tagging for booru uploads
>Supports "advanced" image formats (.webp, .jxl), PDFs, audio, and even 3d models (.glb)
>AI generated tl;dr for archived threads
>Alternate light/dark themes, simple theme builder, and CSS injector
>Extensive options menu (disable most extra features for "classic" mode)
>Native Mobile PWA (Installs as app, swipe navigation, actual mobile UX)

>>108213307
holy bloat

>>108205601
i need this but with AI tagging. surely someone built an image-to-text model that specializes in classifying anime art with danbooru style tags right? right???

>>108203896
Works on my machine

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>>108203896
I use this https://github.com/rr-/szurubooru on my home server so I can access it from PC and Phone (browser or Lolisnatcher).

>>108213307
repo where

>>108206735
It's not an alternative

>>108213580
You’re right, it’s the first choice.

>>108213307
>My website will solve the imageboard and booru issue simultaneously
That sounds awful but best of luck.

>>108207123
>mpv
mpv is completely broken on Wayland, however in the last few versions there's been a new configuration for QtMediaPlayer added that actually works servicably well. There is now a sound-enabled option for Wayland.

>>108213307
>My website will solve the imageboard and booru issue simultaneously.
If this is your website, then no, it will not.

>>108209497
not right now, but here
https://ayasequart.org/fts

>>108213440
It's already implemented since 2022.
Read the compose file, it's called autotagger.
However you should take a look at other models instead of https://github.com/danbooru/autotagger, the model shipped is from 2022 too, it was never updated so the most of the tags it suggests have legacy syntax or are deprecated.

Hosting hydrus on a server is jank as hell needing VNC since it isn't even headless or a proper server. But hydownloader is too good, nothing else that I found compares.

>>108213307
You know boorus are imageboards right?

>>108213307
A shitton of features, poorly thrown together, with a bunch of strange overly expensive visual effects
I can smell the vibe coding from here, this shit is never touching my machine.

>>108213307
looks nice
the issue is no one will use it

you literally cant make a new image board or a booru because that ship has sailed since social media took over the internet

>>108207080
Not only does hydrus support that, but it has the public tag repo which handles a lot of that automatically (e.g. if you tag something with "rei ayanami" it adds the "NGE" tag to the image automatically). Only downside is that the full mapping file is ~60gb when uncompressed

>>108213661
IIRC the problem is that hydrus handles video by running some kind of rube goldberg setup where it has an mpv process paint into its window. Wayland doesn't like this. It works fine if you force xwayland by unsetting WAYLAND_DISPLAY, but I doubt it will ever be native it handles playback in a less hacky way.

>>108214044
oh very nice, thanks!

>>108213067
>I'm pretty sure that searching that would be computationally expensive as fuck though.
eh not really
that kind of problem is very far from new

>>108214348
That's how the mpv one works, yeah. I believe the QtMediaPlayer one is embedded properly, but for whatever reason the old config caused crashes pretty regularly. The new one doesn't.
It did have some niggling issues in the last two releases, but from the latest changelog it looks like 660 fixes my last remaining problem.
By the way, hydrus dev is quite active on double chan. You can get a pretty direct line to him there if you want to tell him about anything broken. Nice guy.

>>108205517
>>108206750
What even is it? I have an iPhone and it's really easy to put epub books on it and read them with the built in reader app.

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>>108213103
>alt chans dont have features.
Neither does 4chan

>>108214240
you can definitely make a new booru if it's for niche content, but yea imageboards are coasting off us 30 year old boomers and are dying pretty quickly. even 4chan's traffic has been going down massively, tho i'm pretty sure that has a lot to do with the new captcha

>>108213307
>>>Cryptographic Anonymity (Blind signatures - server literally cannot link identity to post)
so what's your solution for moderation and pizza? invite-only isn't a solution

>>108213307
I'm going to be real with you. That looks like a chore to browse, not to mention ugly and unorganized. Like it was made for tablet hands only. How do you go from having a neat an organized designed like the boorus to wanting that sloppy tumblr mess? Look at how neat and organize this pic >>108213513 is. That's all you really need(and maybe ATF's hover tags).

>My website will solve the imageboard and booru issue simultaneously.
You made a literal turmblr social media clone with a bloat image viewer, the worst kind of websites on the internet. Don't let me stop you though, I'm sure retards zoomers gen alphas will eat that shit up and use it like Discord.

>>108203896
then vibe code something better if you think so

>>108219090
Maybe I Will Vobe Code Something Better.

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>>108203896
Use Claude and make your own. How hard is it?

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>>108203896
I've been looking for a durable solution to the "storing hundreds of thousands of memes and needing to find an exact one years later" problem of mine for a decade. Storing them randomly then trying to find them doesn't work. Trying to organize them by folders doesn't work. Trying to use specialized software doesn't work. Here's how I do it. It's entirely file based:
I name my files with with searching for them later in mind. Full path is searched so files are okay. Image I want to find a pepe (the can also be named frog) that wears a fruit hat. But let's say I have way too many files of pepe wearing apple hats and I don't want those to clutter the results. I can search that with something like:
>fd -aH . ~/memes | rg -ie pepe -e frog | rg -i hat | rg -i fruit | rg -iv apple | t
Finally I pipe this newline separated list of full paths into "t", my thumbnailer function. It symlinks the files to /run/$UID/search-results so that I can visually view them and select the exact one I want. So now, as long as I bothered to name the file with enough distinguishing keywords, even if it's an exact specific meme I'm looking for years later, I can quickly search 250k files and find it. Best of all, no special software needed beyond the Linux basics. You can replace fd and rg with find ~+ and grep -E. Of course being a terminal shell command that works on plaintext means it can be adapted in all sorts of ways.

I even use this file based system to create my personal journal entries and even schedule appointments. All by just prepending a sortable date to the file name and some invented words to denote the status. Example, if I have a one and a half hour appointment at 10 AM tomorrow:
20260224 1000-1130 @a@ 4chan-g trolling appointment.txt
Later it could become a journal entry like:
20260224 1000-1130 @i@ made anon seethe on 4chan-g.txt

>>108216252
>even 4chan's traffic has been going down massively, tho i'm pretty sure that has a lot to do with the new captcha
It's been on the decline since before then, and the hack just sped things up.
If I knew of an alternative that fit the niches that this place hits, with some of the same cultural elements, I would have left too.

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>>108217967
Lamdachan has blind signatures. You can check it out. It's on darknet. You can still janny posts, jannied posts don't give tokens back.

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>>108213401
>>108218049
Just toggle classic mode if you want the standard Futaba UI. It disables the extra visuals and is literally the first option you see when you register an invite.
>>108214240
If I wanted millions of users, I wouldn't be gatekeeping the entire site behind invites.
>>108217967
>Automated hash scanning against known databases before media ever touches the object storage.
>Invite trees are tracked. If a user posts pizza, the poster and every single person they ever invited are permanently banned (the branch is severed). Restrictions are then placed on the account of the person who originally invited them.
>Rangeban India, China, Israel, etc.
>>108213554
Repo drops as soon as my live instance goes up.

>>108221294
>>Invite trees are tracked. If a user posts pizza, the poster and every single person they ever invited are permanently banned (the branch is severed). Restrictions are then placed on the account of the person who originally invited them.
i guess i'm missing some fundamental knowledge about blind signing, i figured this wouldn't be possible without breaking the whole anonymity aspect of it

>>108213307
lol at the armchair niggers using a broken shit platform like 4chin for 20 years and then suddenly becoming super picky.
OP app will fail like all the others because it lacks a starting network effect, the only possible audience for that board is 4chan users that won't ever switch because everyone is on 4chan

>>108215170
Reading is so much better on e-ink stuff and doesn't destroy your eyes.

>>108204474
I switched to Linux mint last week. I forgot how nice it is to use a file explorer window that doesn't need to send a screenshot and upload info to a cloud server every time I open a folder or file.

>>108206813
My friends use it because one shares a stream and they watch tv together

>>108213307
Repulsive, rope now

>>108203896
Anubis is another example

>>108222030
file explorer still isn't a solved problem in the computing world, every single one that I've ever used is dogshit, so much that I'm in the process of writing my own for linux and android.

>>108213307
>>108221294
looks kino desu

>>108203896
Hydrus works pretty good honestly, but my biggest problem is that when you're tagging a big quantity of pictures you sometimes start to forget what tags you used for what, so you might end up with multiple tags for the same thing. It's not a Hydrus problem per say.

>>108223020
Win7 solved it years ago but Linux to this day still refuse to take example.

>>108220130
How is that better than tags?

>>108220130
An idiot admires complexity, a genius admires simplicity
in other words
>frogposter is retarded

>>108206735
He said good, dumbass.

>>108229429
It's better, though

>>108226264
>no tabs
>no regex-based search
>limited sort feature
>no way to manipulate atime and mtime from the gui
>no grep -Ri features in search bar
yep into the trash it goes alongside all the others
how is this a good file explorer when you can just click your way around?
we have had all the features I need on unix in the 80s but somehow most of them are impossible to translate to gui.. fuck the devs behind them, fucking worthless scums making our lives harder for no reasons.

>>108206735
its a complement, I wouldn't say chin and dit compete at all

>>108209948
It's one use case, raster image editing.

What image editing can you do in Photoshop and Lightroom that is not available in Krita?

>>108229886
Things you can do only or by far the best in:
Lightroom:
>importing and editing camera RAW files
>performing camera-specific adjustments and lens corrections
>applying photography-oriented visual presets
>versioning, side-by-side editing, color proofing
>organizing and filtering photo collections
Photoshop:
>most advanced image layering, masking and compositing
>most advanced raster filtering and transformations
>most advanced vector drawing/tracing (there are better tools for that, but out of those three PS wins)
>most advanced retouching of photos (for glamour shots etc., integrates with Lightroom for RAW pre-processing)
Krita:
>drawing furry porn
Not sure if you're so ignorant or just pretending to be retarded.

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>>108203896
No good alternatives because everyone uses it and the sunk cost fallacy is too strong to make the switch.

>>108226244
That's what tag siblings are for

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>>108226244
>you sometimes start to forget what tags you used for what, so you might end up with multiple tags for the same thing. It's not a Hydrus problem per say.
That's you being retarded and not using recent tags tab. Why are you even making up tags when you can just copy the hundreds of boorus and other sites that already have perfect tags? Do like the other anon said and use siblings if you see similar ones.

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>>108208767
I just ran it last night again
I really wish I could use my gpu on it. I guess CPU is good enough though. I've tried using it a couple times for like a year but it's really as bit of a poweruser tool, I'm just a little layperson that doesn't know much about local models and all this stuff. Not popular on here or anywhere so it is a bit difficult to use.
I kinda need to think of a good workflow to use it too. It makes no sense to waste valuable saucenao api searching stuff that have already been adequately tagged. Same for stuff that isn't anime related.
The biggest thing that all of these need is a way to custom tag images very easily.

The jannies are killing this site

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>>108231960
like i should be able to as i go though these and notice an error like this be able to quickly and easily add a tag for Ran_Shibuki and remove ichigo and kiriya from it, like very very easily.
because no matter what you're going to have to do custom tagging for most of everything, quality of automated tagging really still just not there yet.

>>108203896
writing a simple image tagging system is baby's first weekend project

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>>108231987
>>108203896
I should release my tagger. It's simple

>>108232184
>we

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>>108232184
actually, there is a way for you to access it now without me having to make a another repo

if this looks good to you, go back to before this fire-eggs nocoder started tweaking a fork of 36g rain tagger. the commit from August 16, 2025

>>108232206
https://github.com/fire-eggs/36g-Rain-Tagger/tree/2112ba41d8ffde2547cd4a3b0b8d0c1342e5f8fb

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>>108208767
>>108231960
>>108231987
>really wish I could use my gpu on it
>no matter what you're going to have to do custom tagging for most of everything, quality of automated tagging really still just not there yet
This is the main weakness of booru systems :- tagging is the most effective way of managing a large library of files, but the initial tagging process is hell, especially if you are just trying to manage you own library locally. AI tagging systems solve the problem, but incur too much of a compute requirement/dependency increase to warrant them (I just want to run the booru on a shitty server). The best way I found to alleviate this with the booru I made (pic related) was 1: support importing media/txt file pairs and download tag info using something like gallery-dl and 2: making a non-AI autotagger system (the autotagger uses "rule association learning" if anyone is interested). But even the autotagger has weaknesses and starting/converting a library is still a bitch.

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>>108203896
The ammount of man hours this piece of shit must have wasted could have powered an entire industrial revolution.

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>>108203896
I'd rather have this

>Terrible software with no good alternatives.
than

>good free software that went paid subscription with no free option, no trail, no 1 time payment, and no other alternatives
There's far too much of that shit going around. Back when I moved from Windows 7 to 10 it was like a whiplash seeing all my favorite software going paid. And it would be really small or niche shit too, going paid.

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>>108230096
they said the same about perl and java.
>I fucking hate python whitespace shouldn't be block indicators

>>108204652
there's a bunch of alternatives to Lightroom

>>108213103
>alt chans dont have features
Most altchans have more features than 4chan, actually
You can't even upload more than one image per post here for fuck's sake