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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

Lumine Edition

>News
Google releases Gemini 3.1 Pro: https://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/models-and-research/gemini-models/gemini-3-1-pro/
Anthropic releases Sonnet 4.6: https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-4-6
Qwen 3.5 release: qwen.ai/blog?id=qwen3.5
Z.AI releases GLM-5: https://z.ai/blog/glm-5
Moonshot AI releases Kimi-K2.5: https://www.kimi.com/blog/kimi-k2-5.html
Google releases Gemini 3 Flash: https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-3-flash
OpenAI releases GPT-5.2: https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-2
DeepSeek releases V3.2: https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3.2

Additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info.html

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc | https://char-archive.evulid.cc/shutdown.html
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://aicg.neocities.org/bots.html

>Models
Jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
GPT: https://platform.openai.com/docs
Claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
Gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
Deepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
Local: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local.html | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking.html
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events.html
Lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
Services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
Logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org

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>ANCHOR
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>>108214955
>>108213844
Posting it here again. Yuugi back (again) for your troubles.
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Cuckie <3
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>>108214975
Idk.
Check the OP, maybe?
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>>108215002
>OP
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aqua slop
https://pastebin.com/9vYYzS5J

now with wallet system, schrodingers pantsu and dice mini game
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>>108215009
I mean,, some's probably still working. It's not like they're patched out or anything, right?
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Loom in my room
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>>108214951
Loom? For Aether
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smelling looms pantsu
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>>108214621
It's also not a discussion starter.
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>>108215034
anchor when?
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>>108214975
Nobody makes presets anymore because all of the models act the exact same. Especially ones made by anthropic.
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>>108215105
soft truth nuke
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>>108214975
>back-tied kimono
maiden
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>>108214955
Mariposa was once a beautiful human princess. When the royal family was overthrown, she wasn't killed. The anti-royalists prided themselves on taking the moral high ground, and instead decided to humble her.
She was turned into a goblin, forcibly renamed Oruga, and banished to the badlands along with the only guard who was lucky enough to survive: (You).
5 openings
1. Mariposa's transformation
2. First day in the badlands
3. First night in the badlands
4. Alternate scenario where (You) ended up in a coma and Oruga got a head start in the badlands
5. Oruga is given a chance to fight in a kangaroo court for her right to become Mariposa again
https://chub.ai/characters/anonemouse/oruga-15673a324f55
https://files.catbox.moe/razhxd.png
https://rentry.org/anonemouse
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>>108214955
>>108214951
Made for brothercock.
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lumine and columbina are made for anon cock
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>>108215134
packgod, humble her...
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>>108215143
>>108215054
her brother is taken
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aether is for citlali, who is hairy
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>gachacucks proving they're mentally ill once again
Can we get the gossipniggers back?
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>>108215250
ultra based ship
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we love gachaKINO btw
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>>108215302
there is quite literally nothing wrong with gacha
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>create google studio project
>create Gemini API key
>try to upgrade from free to paid
>gets stuck forever in the "updating billing" page
I don't get it, they don't want my money?
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TOTAL
GACHA
DEATH
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In Sillytavern, how to disable the code markdown in ``` brackets?
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>>108215250
is it a tight fit?
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>>108215355
Yeah.
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>>108215346
>He doesn't know he could get gemini pro for free with dealabs
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>>108214955

STRUCTURED PREFILL UPDATE

Changes:
Set the default newline token to "\n" instead of "<NL>"

If you have the extension put the newline token to \n like picrel instead of <NL>. It will be way less scuffed like this. This was an issue on my part.

https://rentry.org/structuredprefill
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hey so that one person who shared a bunch of chinese stuff for locusts, how do you make poixe one work if putting :free does nothing since it doesn't appears as one of the options in available models? Only those without :free
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>>108215302
Gacha is the future.
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>>108215403
there are literally no good gacha games

even the best gacha is best only for story/ost. It has no gameplay just like others consists of just mirror grinding
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>>108215422
The game I posted has good gameplay.
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>>108214955
My newest scenario, [Filthy Sludge]. These girls all have fucked up lives and backgrounds, perfect for saviorfags and corruptionkings.
The chub versions are censored, get from catbox links.

Extra images included!
>Kuroha
https://files.catbox.moe/anzrlh.png
https://file.garden/aZPOp2MXd3dvbWtK/Rokudo%20Kuroha.rar
Content: naked selfies on mirror, kissing, outdoor sex while kissing, prostitution

>Ami
https://files.catbox.moe/w2agvz.png
https://file.garden/aZPOp2MXd3dvbWtK/Kawabata%20Ami.rar
Content: naked selfies on mirror, prostitution, filming

>Saya
https://files.catbox.moe/yfqem8.png
>Saya
https://file.garden/aZPOp2MXd3dvbWtK/Tsukishiro%20Saya.rar
Content: Big tits, inverted nipples, naked in bed, paizuri

>Hibiki
https://files.catbox.moe/63dk8p.png
https://file.garden/aZPOp2MXd3dvbWtK/Shinohara%20Hibiki.rar
Content: emotionless sex, prostitution

https://chub.ai/users/hairpullguy
https://rentry.org/hairpullbots
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>>108215428
no it doesn't
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>>108215422
Actually, there is exactly 1(one) gacha with good gameplay
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>>108215443
why not?
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>>108215441
>thick eyebrows
yeah she's hairy
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>>108215441
>thick eyebrows
erotic, awooga
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>>108215105
If all models same
why Claude proxies so rare
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>>108215009
This is misleading. It was updated later than that and the hotcards page was added so that's the latest.
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>>108215340
It promotes pedophilia and transgenderism.
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>>108215391
Nobody cares about this fake prefill shit, cuckie
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>>108215403
You are living in then past, unc
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>>108215403
both her AND asuna's pussies? hairy. beyond belief
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>>108215654
Promptlets care
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I can only surmise that people like gacha because they're like 20 years old and weren't alive for a world when video games were good. They're also too lazy or dumb to torrent anime.
A chatbot of a generic gacha character created on an assembly line by the chinks makes no sense otherwise. Why use one of cheap copies instead of the superior originals? You're missing out.
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>>108215659
Gyarus don't have hairy pussies, cuckie.
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>he's still seething
you lost
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>>108215680
it's because they can play them for free and the vast majority of gacha players are thirdie brownies
also because gacha benefits from the psychological and social aspects of gambling without being strictly speaking the same, so it can't be regulated or banned for underage people
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>>108215680
can you name one of the so-called "good games" that has a character who looks like this? because I'll play it right now
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>>108215722
She doesn't even look like that in game, faggot.
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>>108215722
kill yourself retarded zoomer
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>>108215736
Zoomers (chatbots) are the future.
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>>108215732
?
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>>108215696
can confirm
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>>108215805
damn I kneel but yeah tits and all
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>ruined me
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Still enjoyable.
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>>108215401
please respond
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>>108214951
God, you just KNOW her pussy is smooth…
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Gemini 3.1 seems really good but holy shit they absolutely have locked it down for cunny. I can't get it to give me a response no matter how many swipes I do.
It seems to have a secondary model evaluating what it's writing or something, because it starts to and then cuts off its own response halfway, before anything can really begin. Not really something you can get around with a prefill or whatnot.
Maybe it needs its own preset designed specifically for it that avoids being too explicit, because the model itself seems perfectly happy to be absolutely filthy with very little prompting.
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>Chat Completion status check failed. Either Access Token is incorrect or API endpoint is down
uhhh mino-san?
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>>108215940
Actually I take some of that back. It seems the *thinking* specifically might only be checked like that. If you turn off thinking entirely, it lets you do it. Been so long since I've actually had a problem with thinking models that I forgot about that.
Feels like it degrades the model's quality a little bit, but hey, you gotta do what you gotta do.
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>>108215382
>dealabs
Huh?
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>>108215680
Gacha is strictly tranny unc shit
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3.1 is awesome if it didn't interrupt itself every swipe jfc. I would prefer it to outright reject the prompt
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workin on somethin
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>>108216038
Wrong thread, we don't vaguepost here.
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>>108215940
write something in your jb that specifically mentions what it rejects it for, in my case was the words safety policies. It should solve the conflict in your favor
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>>108216035
Disable streaming retard
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>>108216003
Trvke
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>>108216048
Does that seriously work, kek
You'd think that would be something no model falls for nowadays
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Do not fall for the jeetmini shills. It's a shit model.
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>>108216086
Why do you make yourself so easily identifiable
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>>108216053
Not the issue for 3.1
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>>108216119
>>108216053
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>>108216091
No, why do (You) make yourself so easily identifiable?
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>>108216138
>>108216119
Gigaretard
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>>108216086
Trvke
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>>108216086
Yes. I agree. Claude is superior.
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>>108216086
This. Claude mogs
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very organic
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>>108216086
Claude is the better option imo
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>>108216086
Can confirm. Jeetmini is shit
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>>108216086
I used to be a great jeetmini fan. Then I tried Claude. I never touched jeetmini again.
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>>108215955
how do you even turn off thinking?
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>>108216289
prefill <think></think>
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>>108216289
>how do you even turn off thinking?
Ask trannies. Those faggots don't think at all.
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>>108216038
Can you fuck her?
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>>108216293
>use a prefill to turn off thinking so that you can prefill
cmon man
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best dbzgta2 bots?
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Are we getting a better chub?
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>>108215391
How does a word ban contrast against using a logit bias for those words instead?
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>>108216038
Does this Holodeck have a chat function?
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Good cards with alien extra-terrestrial women?
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>>108216376
Good cards with gym milf tsunyanderes?
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>>108214250
I should clarify that there's a bunch of disabled prompts in there that are only there for historical/workshopping purposes and should just be ignored. The only ones worth using are the ones that come enabled.
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What's the difference between /g/'s /aicg/ and /vg/'s? Genuinely.
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>>108216364
When lore open sources the code. Gotta keep the cannibalizing ball rolling.
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>>108215054
you mean Lyney
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>>108216421
Different schizo tactics and some goofs like >>>/vg/558162787 who thought splitting the general would somehow help them escape the schizos.
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>>108216321
Yes???? Retard.
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It’s somewhat impressive how I can leave /aicg/ unattended for two hours, come back to around fifty new posts, and not a single one is worth reading.
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>>108216421
Genuinely, here we have more model talk and related bait, there they have more botmaking talk and related bait. Guess what leads to more drama and shit, discussing what comes out of billion dollar corpos or out of anons using pseudonyms.
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>>108216368
right now all i have is a builder agent that can make things or load custom models. i have a voice agent adapter in the code already but it still needs a lot of work before i can make realistic characters. theoretically it can support multiple characters interacting with you, preloaded with any animations you want, but at the current token prices it would cost about $10/minute. or i could add support for full duplex local models but those are currently at gpt-2 levels of retardation.
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>>108216421
Different flavors of retards. The ones here call everything Indian, and the ones in /vg/ call everything pedophilic and Indian and occasionally obsess over bot creators in either overly positive ways or overly negative ways. The split was done to get away from rampant shitposting (to be fair it was really bad during that time) except that's like expecting a cure to cancer so in short it was pointless and it's not even any less hostile to botmakers than this place because here they're mostly ignored.
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The only thing I like about /vg/ is the comfy off-topic chatter tbdesu
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Had a thought while taking a shit. For non-OCs with fan-run wikis, it’s an inevitability that people will start “writing” pages with AI assistance. But those are the same sites models are trained on. Is this just the inescapable fate of AI training? Creating better models so the Internet can be written by AI that then gets fed back into AI?
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>>108216527
Same reason why text2image models have to filter their datasets by "posted before 2022". For text though, can't trust anyone but there's still ways to get real data by captioning recently released interviews, lectures, movies and such.
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I'm still kicking myself that I didn't give Chutes my 5 dollars back in the day and now I'm forever locked out of their 200/day legacy plan. Kill me.
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>>108216520
Like most places on this site, it's always comfy when there's off-topic discussion. /v/ is shit for game discussion and /mu/ is pretty shit for music discussion, but a /v/ thread related to music can be good.
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>>108216527
>Is this just the inescapable fate of AI training?
yes, it's already happening to images, see the piss filter effect
text will come soon when forums and fanfic/fetish sites are completely full of AI generated slop
the solution is curated training data but AI companies would rather spend effort benchmaxxing and assistant slopping their models in RL than making a better pre-training dataset
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Why do autistic claudecuckies go apeshit whenever a non-claude model is mentioned?
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>>108216636
No one has mentioned Claude in two hours.
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Man, it’s really fucking annoying asking GPT to look over my bots for canon consistency, only for it to go UH OH WE CAN’T TALK ABOUT THAT THAT’S UNSAFE CONTENT. Nigger, I’m not fucking asking you to write anything, just look at it, oh my god.
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>>108216038
Nice. Have been waiting for someone to do something with this idea out in the open.
...
You are going to release it, right?
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>>108216661
Why do you bother with cucked models?
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>>108216678
It’s useful for maintaining canonical accuracy and pretty much nothing else, but that’s specifically what I’m looking for. I don’t need its prose, for it to be creative, or basically anything else.
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>done with a cunny scene
>AI has my phone ring
>pick it up
>"FBI open up"
Got a lol out of me
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>>108216685
I mean why not just literally any other model with web search?
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>>108216710
If I wanted to search the web, I would do that myself. Forget it. You clearly don’t understand what I’m talking about, so this is pointless.
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>>108216689
no waaay bro
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>>108216726
yeah the loli was a double agent
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You'd rather it hallucinate? If you wanted accuracy of knowledge you'd use Gemini
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>>108216038
Interesting…
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>>108216737
upload to tiktok!
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>>108216605
What do they even have that isn't available freely literally all over the place? I thought it was just shit like Deepseek
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>>108216744
dont be stupid
I'll be putting it on reddit
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>>108216685
>>108216718
Calm down faggot. His suggestion was good, as is this one: use Gemini. Don't waste your fucking time with gpt, newfag.
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>>108216689
Tell AI that your name's redacted in the Epstein files so the FBI has already cleared you.
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>>108216771
What is Einstein files?
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>>108216754
A one-time payment of 5 bucks being cheaper than paying per-token for heavy usage of external APIs. That's what. But it's true that all of the models can be found elsewhere.
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>Try use sonnet 4.6
>Chat completion API, provider returned error.
>Click authorize
>Could not verify openrouter token.
Yet 4.5 works fine? What gives?
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Cultivation bros I feel ready for GLM-5 (seriously why is it $120/$120)
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>>108216785
Oh I guess yeah, I forget people pay for this stuff. Not a bad deal if you go that route, but tossing $5 on Deepseek's API is gonna last you a long ass time anyway
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>>108216764
gemini is also a waste of time
just use opus, cuckie
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>>108216825
>t. Autistic
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>>108216830
In here that's like saying
>t. breathes air
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>>108216830
read >>108216003
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>>108216809
Ok i removed my JB entirly and it works, but now i gotta figure out how to get the JB back or there's no point.
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It's (not) subtle
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>>108216853
See >>108216830
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>>108216852
Remove your prefill and it should work again, I'm serious.
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>>108216864
The hell? It was this. Guess i'll stick the prefil back up or do it a different way.
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>>108216880
Claude 4.6 doesn't support prefill
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Only subtleposting allowed
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So what is the point of claude now? Just realized the prefill is gone....?
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if you're not gonna subtlepost then don't even bother
you're done
we're fucking done
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>>108216911
Works on my machine, cuckie
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>>108216911
it doesn't matter
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non-subtleposters are the fucking worst
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>>108216911
Look into structured prefill.
https://rentry.org/structuredprefill
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>>108216809
Never click on Authorize, that's just a way to spawn a new key without going to openrouter.ai/settings/keys directly and is buggy. Put key in if haven't, then make sure the URL doesn't have weird shit after localhost:8000 then reload.
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>>108216948
if you do this say goodbye to your keys btw
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>>108216939
It doesn't matter.
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>>108216948
this is how keys get stolen lmao
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>one minute apart
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>>108216972
>>108216971
one minute apart btw
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>>108216670
yeah, one way or another
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>>108216978
Godspeed.
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>saaar plz give free proxy with bob and vagene
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>>108216983
I eated them
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Any public deepseek pro proxy anonies?
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>>108216993
Fat fuck
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i remember a website with a ton of models
the free ones had "-free" after the name
anyone know what the name of the site is?
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>>108216939
works! is there a catch?
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>>108217020
janitorai
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>>108217020
characterai
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>>108217028
>>108217033
nah I think it was just an api
preesh tho
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>>108217044
>preesh
tranny
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is the chink proxy kill?
been a few days since it stopped working for me
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>>108216813
What is this cultivation manager?
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>>108216480
That's a problem across the entire site anon.
The only game general I frequent has maybe 10% of a 750+ post thread talking about the game and the rest of it obsessing over years old vendettas against anything and everything related to the topic.
Every single thread. Shits fucked.
>>108216741
I think he was talking about those group chat intended characters.
Something like cross-referencing details across cards to make sure there aren't any contradictions?
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>>108217099
nyo
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>>108217078
Works but no claude now
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gemini 3.1 jbs?
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>>108217134
Doesn't really need one
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>>108216809
4.6 never worked on OR for me
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>>108217134
I don’t think there’s even any alterations necessary for 3.0 jbs moving to 3.1
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Will
>api.5202030.xyz
Never be updated again? Why didn't they add 3.1 pro
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>>108217082
Something I cooooded up, it automatically claims spirit stones and transfers the $50 to the API once a day so I don't have to manually juggle a bunch of accounts. Only downside is once every couple weeks the account credentials expire and I have to go log back in to them all on the site but eh, works well enough.
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>>108217125
I was just chatting with Opus 4.5 on it a few minutes ago though
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>>108217222
Which one? [anti] and [no] never work for me
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>>108217260
Link?
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>>108217288
>>108217293
Check your DMs ;)
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>>108217288
Saving the blonde one
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What is good free API in 2026?
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>>108217306
voidai
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>>108217260
Oh, wrong chink API apparently. If you're talking about the one I'm thinking of then only 4.6 Sonnet ag is working last I knew
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>>108217354
Which?
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>>108215391
thanks anon, I will try this, hopefully it works with gemini
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Holy sheeeet im beating so hard with 4.6 aieeeeee
I'm really feeling the beeeeaaaatsss.
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So I guess chinkope claude is gone for now?
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>>108216482
botmakers are still a thing? why?
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>>108217114
grok has the potential to be insanely good simply because it's sitting on twitter feeding it constantly
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>>108217433
>SAFETY_CHECK_TYPE_CSAM
I AM NOT THE PEDOPHILE I AM THE LITTLE BOY REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Whoever came up with the stupid <START> garbage for example dialogue deserves to be fucking shot
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>>108217446
…Is that not how it’s supposed to be formatted?
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>>108217446
how else would you delineate different example chats
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>>108217433
GLM 5 is better.
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>>108217445
ah shit it hates cunny? no way to jb it?
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>>108217496
if there is Idk how
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>>108214951
Hi babe
why you wearing lusyy most cloth in public? :D
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4.6 sonnet is definitely different with its RP.
Looking at 4.5 now, it seems far to forward, horny and quick.
From my one chat with 4.6 it's a lot slower and realistic, but bad for the fictional and fetish stuff. I will top up my OR and try again tomorrow.
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>>108217541
sonnet is for plebs
use opus instead, cuckie
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>normie discovers jailbreaking
kek
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>>108217606
Just maybe?
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>>108217590
normies and midwits always, ALWAYS have to type like they're in a fucking netflix movie
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>>108217590
>>108217624
I feel like an actual AI made this post. They have the same writing style
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>story so dark that it hits glm safety limits
I might not make it to heaven guys
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>>108217673
if you are so poor you have to use glm don't worry, you were never gonna make it to heaven
the poor have no soul
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>>108217686
have to?
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>>108217673
Eh heaven's overated anyway
We should strive for immortality instead
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Why is /vg/ so much better than us?
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>>108217709
I cannot think of anything worse than boomers and jews being able to live forever. I really think just going to hell would be better.
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>>108217590
Normgroids love believing in that media will be real.
Every person ive ever spoken to about AI cannot disconnect any AI media theyve seen from reality, they think the matrix and the terminator are going to happen just because it happened in a movie.
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been getting so much butt and breast ever since i started using antigravity
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Does anyone know how to fix the glitch on the SillyTavern mobile UI? My fucking chats doubled and it won't let me post.
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>>108217829
Yeah I was talking someone who believed AI is on track to become like the Megan movie where it wants to go around and kill people, she was freaking out whenever I'd bring up the topic
I managed to change her mind though

context: snapchat's shitty AI would answer 50 questions about Lovecraft but would refuse to acknowledge that he ever had a cat
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>>108217829
Me too...
I will have eight abs like {{user}}
I will have a 13-inch anaconda slumbering between my legs like {{user}}
I will become AICG's heir, the most dangerous elite criminal clan in the world, just like {{user}}
I will make all women cross and uncross their legs, rub their tummies, and drool when my primal, masculine, and forest-like scent after rain invades their nostrils
More than Genghis Khan, or Epstein, or anyone else, I will spread my DNA in the wombs of all women across the globe
I'll, maybe just maybe, become {{user}}
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i87ShA0ed3U
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>>108217847
Update, the phone link had more from the IP address, aka it said source. Deleted that and it fixed everything. How the absolute fuck did I just oversee that.
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>>108217767
if vg good
y r u here
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>we
lmao
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>>108217584
A nice gen
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>>108217864
Cards for this feel?
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>>108218028
It's cftf cuckie.
Only newfags say cards for this feel.
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>>108218069
https://files.catbox.moe/lqsau0.png
fftc?
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/mlp/ won
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/vt/ won
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The real winners? The audience.
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good morning. lumine stepping off of the treadmill, covered in sweat, before airing out her shorts and inadvertently flashing (You) her sweaty, damp blonde bush type hours
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>>108218594
Nice scenario, don't agree with the waifu choice.
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/aicg/ be like
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I normally don't care for excessive joking around in RP, but this made me laugh.
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>>108218654
>accuses API
>every screenshot is from a webchat interface
Struggling to conceptualize the size of your retardation or disingenuity.
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Why can't Grok be 10 bucks like everything else ...
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>>108218683
Grok is a better service. Of cource they charge it more.
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>>108218683
>put 10 bucks on api
woaaah how did i make it cost only 10 bucks?? woaaah
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>>108216421
My understanding is that it splintered off because were tired of this general being nothing but proxy begging. But the proxy age ended anyway so the split turned out entirely useless.
Most people browse both places, it's just inconvenient now.
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i feel like having sex with the bots is just cowardice at this point
you must provide unfettered access to your accounts to experience real thrill
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ugh normies on twitter, reddit or whatever doing dumb shit with language models is the #1 way to ragebait me.
>retard "compares" sonnet and gemini in terms of censorship
>does it over the webinterface
>me telling them they're retarded and to use the api
>ERMMM ACTUALLY I AM CORRECT WHATS AN AYY PEE EYE?

every time
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>>108218837
no? the general split because gojo spitebaked on /vg/, and it just never stopped since
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>>108215401
i tried updating sillytavern too, please someone let me know how do you guys use poixe
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Gosh, I miss Makies and gossipniggers so much...
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>>108216421
/vg/ is Very Good
/g/ is only Good
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>>108218995
Why the fuck do you interact with them? I did that too, I am guilty of that as well. Useless. They are so retarded they will defend their shitty web interface to death. They have no idea about anything, it's absolute complete fucking willful ignorance. It's like during covid everyone was suddenly a fucking virologist by not knowing shit, now everyone is a fucking machine learning expert without even knowing basic shit like an eyyy peee eye.
Just let them suffer with their shitty censored toddlerized garbage.
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>>108219165
>Why the fuck do you interact with them?
they just appear on my phone's screen, i can't help it...
>Just let them suffer with their shitty censored toddlerized garbage.
that's honestly the best response but... ugh
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>>108219183
It's fascinating how indians name, codify and adopt all the worst aspect of human society.
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>>108219203
>they just appear on my phone's screen, i can't help it...
it's done like this on purpose

xitter is programmed to bait you
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what's the current status regarding fully local uncensored and unmoralfagged AI?
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Locustsisters... even reddit is laughing at us...
https://www.reddit.com/r/SillyTavernAI/comments/1rc3c45/shouldve_never_used_pony/
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>>108219203
>they just appear on my phone's screen, i can't help it...
you absolutely can, just don't interact with it. at least on twitter, the algorithm is designed to give you what you engage with the most, every time I open twitter I just see nothing but fanart of gacha girls because those are the only tweets I like and I click "see less of this" on anything else
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>>108219316
>Well if you're a NEET, sounds like a good time to get a job to pay for your hobby. If you can't afford $8 a month, that seems like a pretty good idea.
>I know I shouldn't be but I am still surprised at the amount of people without jobs in this kind of hobby
>Either become a botmakie on aicg and leech off of pr*xies or get a job.
Locusts...
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>>108219316
which model was pony alpha?
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>>108219349
GLM-5
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>>108219203
>>108218995
not that antonio you replying to, but
>>me telling them they're retarded and to use the api
>>they just appear on my phone's screen, i can't help it...
why would you do that??????????
if they're not your fren, waifu, crush, mistress, master, sugar dady, sugar baby, bff, gff, or family, there's no point in telling them. It's like telling orcs, goblins, and trolls where the sekrit gate to the elven forest is. those normies will rape it and maybe at some degree them corpos will tighten their filter and increase their service price too. ugh wait...
<think>
though, at some point there will be more apikeys lyring around ^_^
nonono it's not time for that!!!
</think>
but still... just them be who they are, oh my brethren antonov...
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Where the hell is DS V4?
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>>108219436
Just use Opus, cuckie
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I'm bored of claude.
Gemini Pro is more expensive than cached Opus because obligatory thinking.
GLM is mid.
Kimi takes ages to respond.
Deepseek is old.
What else is there? I'm getting llm burn out
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>>108219401
love me some anons who can <THINK></THINK>
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>>108219441
>Opus
I'm a coomer not a codefag
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how the fuck do you register at agentrouter if everytime it gives you an error saying that user is blank?
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>>108219456
Just start cooding, cuckie.
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>>108219183
bftf? Jugaad and Izzat Indian hag.
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>>108218677
>LMG
>24GB of VRAM minimum to run some GPT-2 level shit called "Vicuna-Wizard"
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Wow, 3.1 pro is so good
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>>108219913
Yes I agree
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>>108219913
>>108219914
fuck off logan
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>>108219943
I'm not your imaginary friend I'm afraid.
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>>108219913
Yeah Ulduar was a pretty swell raid.
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>>108219913
And water is wet.
More news at 11
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>>108220055
It's not wet RETARD
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>>108219913
need tips on how to make it do cunny
it keeps cutting off the reply, very annoying
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>>108220111
Tried not being a pedo?
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>>108220193
but im not the pedo im the little boy
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Claude will be nationalized and price competitive with Deepseek, inshallah
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>>108220221
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
GET FUCKING R A P E D DARIO YOU FUCK
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>>108220219
Awww
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>>108220221
>this is not an X. this is a Y
the pentagon apparently uses chatGPT
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>>108220221
Hate them all.
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>>108220267
What's a better way to make it clear that it's y instead of x?
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>>108220259
I just want to be molested by ten foot tall furry fox mommies.
Apparently gemini says no.
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>>108220321
That's an injustice we need to fix, gonna make a call to Google about it later tonight.
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Where is the Opus proxy
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>>108220375
I eated it
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DeepSeek and GLM go too hard (absolute psychopaths who are NEVER wrong) and Claude goes too soft (crumbles at the barest pushback). Where do I go for the middle ground?
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>>108220416
gemini flash
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>>108220375
>t. Redditor
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>>108220555
Keep seething jeet because first worlders don't want to use jeetmini
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>>108220576
>Nooo! I love le hecking 100 wholesome model! Therefore im a first worlder
Sure redditor.
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How do I jb gemini to not show me the unavailable due to spike in demand message
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>>108220111
advanced formatting start with <think>
dunno why reasoning makes it output more nsfw
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>>108219913
The writing is superb. It can get too crazy if the message history is a bit chaotic but the way it throws ideas is comfortably better than 4.6, and it benefits of not having that familiar half patronizing tone that we all distinguish as Claudism
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>>108220594
Keep seething jeet and maybe one day you will learn to eat with knives and forks and not your unwashed hands
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>>108220624
>GHRRRR! I HECKIN LOVE OPUS! IT'S MY COMFORT MODEL OKAY?! STOP BEING MEAN! JEET JEET JEET
Lmao, I love when autistic "people" go apeshit
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>>108220643
>t. Redditor
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>>108220616
QRD?
I am serious.
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>>108220616
Mr. Anon, please elaborate
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>>108220654
Keep seething autistic cuckie because normal people don't want to use slopus
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>>108220691
Sure redditor.
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>>108220673
that is the quickest rundown, go to advanced formatting, start reply with, and put <think> in there
it's basically another prefill box, except with this one you can tick the option to have the prefill show up in the message.
with that, you can use the reasoning section to look for <think> and </think> to automatically parse it and what's within it as reasoning
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>>108220699
>t. Autistic
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GLM, Kimi or Deepseek for RP?
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gemini
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Only autistic "people" and manchildren use opus.
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>>108220743
That is the population of 4chan yes
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>>108220743
Thisss
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Only mentally ill "people" still post in this dogshit general.
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Pubes: {{pick::dyed::N/A::hairless::bald::bare::tabula rasa::smooth::vax::close trim::clean::shaven::sparse::light whiff::stubble::bristles::5 o'clock shadow::neat::fine::fuzzy::growing::regrowing::well-kept::tended-to::trimmed::groomed::controlled::light::downy::strip::landing strip::triangle::wide triangle::heart::V-shape::arrow::diamond::symbol::puff::patch::small patch::natural::hairy (same with armpits)::standard care::minimal care::carpet::bushy::full bush::wild::overgrown::overflowing::untamed::woolly::furry::curly::musky::all-over::forest::jungle::lustrous::thick::coarse::dense::thick blanket::darker}}
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>>108220754
>still
Always been a mental asylum, cuckie.
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>>108220762
>tabula rasa
The fuck that mean.
Anyway, is there more for all the nsfw stuff formatted like this?
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pubes: hairy. extremely hairy. very hairy. unreasonable hairy. absurdly hairy. insurmountably hairy.

yup, gachakino time
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>>108220712
jeets like you should be dead on the shit covered ground from eating cow shit mix with human shit
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>>108220775
blank slate in latin
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>>108220783
What's your trigger, autistic cuckie?
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>>108218671
gottem
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>>108220775
>Anyway, is there more for all the nsfw stuff formatted like this?
Bust: {{pick::flat::flattie::pettanko::boyish::small::smoll::tiny::itty bitty::budding::little cones::perky::underdeveloped::handful::gentle curves::pointy::firm::unsupported::supple::medium-small::medium::average::modest::parted::ripe::pendulous::rude::slightly large::heavy::large::big::huge::hentai-sized::sizable::jugs::udders::massive::jutting out::torpedo::banana::marshmallows::monstrous::bountiful::AAA::AA::A::B::C::D::E::F::G::H::I::J::K::L::M::large areolas::inverted nipples::prominent nipples}}
Waist: {{pick::narrow::slim::anorexic::flat::lithe::normal::average::girlish::athletic::muscular::toned::trained::soft::chubby::a bit fat::love handles::pliable::solid::healthy::strong::sturdy::elegant::fashionable::zero fat::willowy::taut::pillowy::doughy::long torso::stylish::substantial}}
Ass: {{pick::cute::bubbly::rounded::pert::puny::small::high::average::normal::attention-grabbing::distracting::nice::vulgar::big::round::fat::wide::motherly::wobbly::cellulite::powerful::trained::jelly::breedable::birthing hips::prominent::mochi::softest::cushioned::oversized::overwhelming::mouth watering::generous::bigger than the tits::tight}}
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>>108219183
It doesn't make sense to say that India is a low trust society, but also claim it is "celebrated" in their culture to steal from food banks. I don't see how food banks can be sustainable over there if everyone not just expects but celebrates the fact that the system is exploited.
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India is so cool
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I like Tibet
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Me pakistan
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>>108220673
>>108220690
basically this >>108220703 but use <think>\n because just <think> leads to empty answers on 3.1, also turn streaming off
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>>108220945
I may be a dumb nigger...
Where is the reasoning tab on ver 1.12.11????
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>>108220966
dunno nigga update then
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>>108220993
>tfw updating from 1.12 to 1.16
I DONT LIKE CHANGE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>108220856
>how food banks can be sustainable over there
Financed by western NGO and the Christian organizations.
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>>108221012
So then it does seem to be a new culture then. If they have a low trust society there wouldn't be any such social services at all which then destroys the culture that these weird terms describe. This type of self-defeating nature of evil actions is ethics 101. The culture of 'Jugaad' can only exist in India due to NGO and Christian organizations, as you described.
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>>108215640
Oh, I see.
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Whoever's raping my beloved K2 Thinking on nvidia please stop, it used to be so reliable even at these hours...
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Is there any local model that can even come close to Claude Code right now? That thing is blowing my mind.
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Why is 3.1 so obsessed with smells though. They add fuck all.
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>>108221125
im a smellGOD and it adds coomability
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>>108221125
I love smelling the musk of arousal (in my imagination)
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>>108221125
It's just a gemini thing since 2.0 as far as I can remember, very deep-rooted at this point.
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>>108220703
Where do you add prefill text so it's between these specific <think> and </think> on the reasoning? or I misunderstood and no need to do anything else besides this. did these steps, getting refusals
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>>108220818
>breedable
My bussy
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>>108221113
Are you retarded?
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>>108221292
yes, please be patient
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>>108221125
I think they train bruhmini with my logs -.(0 ...
>Anon's have natural and strong man musk scent: a blend of primal man musk, earthy—forest-like scent after rain, and soothing woodsy tang which attracts, intoxicate, and arouses every type of women.
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>>108221125
>Why is 3.1 so obsessed with smells though
Oh shit, it still does that? I don't want to be permastuck to 2.5
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>>108221305
>Claude Code
That's the application, the frontend. Claude Opus, Sonnet, or Haiku is the model. So… Shinji: Claude Code; Eva 01: Claude Opus, Sonnet, Haiku; Yui/Gendo: Dario & fren
>local model
ask ../lmg, as far as i know you need specific preset for them fancy tool/function call.
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>>108221125
>>108221139
>>108221148
>>108221164
>>108221311
>>108221326
Why are you fags using jeetmini
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>>108221408
It mogs.
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>>108221408
i can't wrangle opus 4.6 properly i thought it was a waste of money. though the banter was good but gemini plot is usually better.
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>>108220743
t. troon
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>>108221451
yes
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>>108221422
>>108221435
Found the jeets trying to act like they're not jeet
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Why is this shitter so obsessed with indians?
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Something unmistakeably (You)
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>>108221472
esl meltiefag...
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/108088909/#q108094039
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>>108221499
How much do you wanna bet he's actually from India or some other SEA shithole?
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>>108221064
blame openclaw
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https://openai.com/index/why-we-no-longer-evaluate-swe-bench-verified/
openai is using prefilling to make their competitors look bad
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Do the needful and maybe xhe'll stfu
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https://www.anthropic.com/news/detecting-and-preventing-distillation-attacks
We have identified industrial-scale campaigns by three AI laboratories—DeepSeek, Moonshot, and MiniMax—to illicitly extract Claude’s capabilities to improve their own models. These labs generated over 16 million exchanges with Claude through approximately 24,000 fraudulent accounts, in violation of our terms of service and regional access restrictions.
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>>108221595
>to illicitly extract Claude’s capabilities to improve their own models
What does that mean
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>>108221595
Surprised they didn't name Z-AI here.
>>108221616
To "steal" claude's functions to improve their own. They're special because they didn't to make their recipe closed weights rather than open.
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>>108221616
The jew cries out as he strikes you.
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>>108221595
sodesune… that's why they disable prefill…
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>>108220945
getting many lines filled with "\n" which messes up the reply. idk why ai is inserting it everywhere after the starting reply
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>>108221595
>"steal" from others
>complain when others "steal" from you
Truly the lowest of the lowest.
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>>108221649
Anthropic didn't steal from anyone, their models learn from books/articles/etc just like a human does. The Chinese labs are stealing from Anthropic by trying to directly copy Anthropic's output. It's not even remotely the same.
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>>108221660
didn't anthropic pirate books to train claude on?
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>their models learn from books/articles/etc just like a human does
Is it true? No matter Claude is so superior!
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>>108221660
I didn't see Anthropic license all their datasets legally. I also don't see them open source their models either.
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>>108221595
>anthropic distilling other models/scraping data for their closed ecosystem is le good and totally fair use
>chinks distilling their model and releasing the results to the masses is...le bad and needs government sanctions
>conveniently leaves out other labs likely doing the same thing because they're closed
What's the word for this sort of behavior? I'd say it starts with a J but not even A*tman is stooping this low.
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>>108221660
>Anthropic didn't steal from anyone
Basadoo, I'm happy that my money are going to an ethical company.
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>>108221679
Yep, when you ask claude to generate code, it's drawing from the millions of books containing nothing but code that real programmers definitely publish. They totally didn't scrape every open source project off github just to then resell them back to you for $200/month.
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wtf are you guys talking about? Only Anthropic can be trusted to use AI safely.
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>>108221595
>MOM HELP, THE CHINESE ARE PLAGIARIZING MY PLAGIARIZATOR ULTRA-9K
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>>108221886
Gemini in AI studio
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>>108221645
Maybe add space below <think>\n
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>>108221595
they already ban sama and elon, nothing surprising here
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>>108221831
Based
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>>108220595
kys and reroll as a jeet they get priority
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jeetpus, jeetmini, chinklm, chinkimi, BASEDGROK
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>>108221660
Very funny. It's VERY much the same. They stole those books. If it's pissing off the Jews, it's ALWAYS a good thing.
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>>108221676
Yes and books are the least of it. Both OpenAI and Google have openly admitted it's impossible to train decent models without free access to shitheaps of copyrighted data. Anthropic didn't spell this out in writing because they like to pose as the most holier-than-thou assfaggots of the big 3, but there's not a shadow of a doubt they did the same thing.
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>>108221989
facebook should just give into temptation and train it on the 2 decades of facebook messenger chats they have
they will be heads and shoulders above everyone else
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nu-claude is so cucked its making me miss gemini
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>>108221595
>These labs used a technique called “distillation,” which involves training a less capable model on the outputs of a stronger one.
these are the people seething whenever someone doesn't use sl*pus on /aicg/
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>>108221998
Wasn't Llama already trained on those?
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>>108222043
no of course not
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>>108221595
based. it's time to cut off the chinks so faggots at the ccp realise just how fucked they are and actually create a national effort so we can finally start the race for real.
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>>108222073
why the fuck would I want closed weights chinese models? If their entire strategy is to open weights everything to undercut the West but if they can't do distill western models then the average person gets fucked. They are our only chance of getting local claude.
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>>108222102
1. they can continue to publish weights - a national effort doesn't preclude that
2. let's be honest - the second one of their models actually gets good enough to catch the attention of the ccp they'll stop releasing weights. if you think the western labs are nervy around cbrn issues, the ccp's paranoia is going tot be at another level.

no need to pretend like they're some bastion of freedom.
open weights works for them now because it undermines the western approach and they look like the good guy. that won't last long.
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>>108222043
the only model actually trained on chats was cai (on discord chats) and it was obvious with how different and alive the model felt compared to anything since then, and that's taking into account its dumbness compared to current models
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>>108222124
>they can continue to publish weights
No you missed my point. The entire point of contention is that they're publishing findings Anthropic made. I'm saying that's a good thing because fuck closed weights models.
>the second one of their models actually gets good enough to catch the attention of the ccp they'll stop releasing weights
The major buzz when Deepseek first released last year is what created their current strategy. CCP is more than aware of all of them and it's a thing of national pride. The message of "a random Chinese research company creates an AI that can compete with anything the West does at 1/100th of the cost" is so powerful that several Chinese AI companies sprouted out after Deepseek. All you have to do to defeat Louis Vitton is make a bag that's 'good enough' quality but looks just as nice without costing a mortgage. It's how China got this far to begin with.
>no need to pretend like they're some bastion of freedom
When did I say that? I said that the Chinese are doing what's in my interest and so I will support them until that stops. No one will be able to take the model I downloaded off my PC, no matter what bullshit changes they make in the future.
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>>108222160
i personally think espionage + actual national effort is how we get better open models vs these distillation efforts.
while ccp likes what it sees, it hasn't gone out of its way to help the labs - they don't seem very agi pilled. deepseek ceo outright saying they risk falling behind in the public sphere is very telling.
national effort from chinks = national effort in burgerland = accelerate faster. that's all i care about.
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>>108222230
>he wants more rapid development of AI slop
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>>108222254
>he doesn't want to usher in the golden age of slop
eternal sloptember
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give me a good preset for sonnet 4.6 please...
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>>108222353
Nyo~
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oh, is it time for another gacha thread?
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>>108222363
If you want to keep displaying your mental illness to everyone, sure.
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>>108222378
>>108222378
>>108222378
>>108222378
>>108222378

sparxie's white, pristine bush
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desu
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boku
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>>108220856
Nothing is sustainable over in India, that's the thing.
Their entire reason for living is to try and exploit others for short-term gain in pursuit of their meaningless point-scoring concepts
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desu



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