BREAKING technology from japan, tiles when stepped on, turned into electricity!GENIUS!
>>108215975i have it on my instagram too
It's not going to be much electricity, but it might be enough for lighting in the vicinity, or something.
>>108215975>cost of installing and maintaining: 100>cost recouped from energy generation from footsteps: 20
>>108216113you severly overstate the effectives of this thing. It's more like cost of installing:10000, cost recouped: 2.
In Japan, they put games on the washing machines so that waiting for laundry is a fun activity. Amazing!
>>108215975This is more like theft. Every step generating energy takes a commensurate amount of energy expenditure by the person walking, whoever walks on these is getting invisibly taxed for kinetic energy, burning more calories they have to recoup with food later on, and the energy they produced is simply taken by the owner of the walkway without asking or compensating.Imagine if they put these in cars and your car automatically sent electricity to the grid when spinning its wheels, but you weren't compensated for this, and still had to buy all the gas yourself.
>>108215975>BREAKING technology from japan, tiles when stepped on, turned into electricity!'breaking'...What does this break, precisely? I mean apart from your tiny mind that apparently is only just discovering piezo crystals...>GENIUS!I'd be more impressed if this wasn't done with shoes a few decades ago...>>108216234>burning more caloriesEvidence they're using more energy?BTW. Calorie, the measure of how much energy it takes to raise one cubic centimeter of water one degree celcius, is fine if you're boiling a kettle by burning food, but that's not how a body works...>but you weren't compensated for this,They'll be replacing that surface regular, don't worry much about how much they'll be losing with the initial low input, the losses through the wireless transfer, and the heavy damage to the surface...
https://youtu.be/VD15-2Uriyc>>108216234apparently it has an app where you can actually get compensated for your steps, though of course they're probably paying you more because you're showing them where you are and what you're doing more than the for the power>>108216273>Evidence they're using more energy?not him but they have to, as a matter of the law of conservation of energy. you can't extract energy from someone walking without that energy being taken from that person. these work being being depressed by the person stepping on them, so it'd being like walking up very shallow steps as it takes from your gravitational potential which you have to then make up each step
>>108216273>What does this break, precisely?also "BREAKING" as in breaking news, you regard
>>108216216In Murica, laundromats just put a couple of arcade machines in a corner.
>>108215975peace among worlds... rick.
I see no purpose for this other than to scam retarded investors.
Better idea than solar freaking roadways.
Japan is getting ready for Solar Freaking Roadways!
>>108216308That's so fucking cringe. Not every news is breaking. Only the most extremely important, and that actually just happened, like: "breaking: president Kennedy has just been shot" or "breaking: the Challenger space shuttle has just exploded".
>>108216307>very shallow steps as it takes from your gravitational potentialGravity is the input variable.Able to offer evidence the piezo crystals compress more than the 'regular floor'?>>108216308>you regardBy which you mean was reported about a year ago?You retard.>>108216337>Japan is getting ready for Solar Freaking Roadways!k. Now demonstrate a material that will endure the punishment of a heavy goods vehicle, for the few decades the solar cell should last, whilst still able to provision a decent amount of traction... Until then, the best you'll hope to see is roads *covered*... not the surface...
>>108215975How much each panel costs and how much power is it expected to generate during its lifetime?
>>108216216It's bizarre to me that in the year of our lord 2026 the Japanese still go to a building to play video games.
>>108216382"typically ranges from $500 to $1,000 per square meter. This includes materials and installation costs. Individual tiles can cost between $50 and $100 each""Each piezoelectric tile generates about 2 to 8 watts of energy per footstep. In a high-traffic area, like the Shibuya Station in Tokyo, a single tile can produce approximately: 1 to 3 kWh of electricity daily in a heavily used installation.When considering a block that sees over 20,000 pedestrians, the cumulative energy generation can be substantial, potentially producing kilowatts of energy."Casual glance, they're made mostly of plastic and fibreglass, I see refence to ceramics, but unsure if there's a ceramic skin or that's just the piezo... Self-estimate to last at least 5 year...
if you extract energy from walking that literally means you made walking on that surface more difficult as it consumes energy you could use for projecting yourself forwardso, thats retarded
>>108215975instead of having them a single floor, why not have them built into shoes?
>>108215975Enough power to keep 5 fax machines running continuously!
>>108216409>literally means you made walking on that surface more difficult as it consumes energy you could use for projecting yourself forwardSauce on that?This eats energy as you step on it, your weight transfer achieves. Can you evidence you're transferring more weight? Your energy cost occurs not steppin' onto the foot, but steppin' off it... any evidence the piezo being previously compressed by weight adds to the enrgy cost?
>>108216409It's harvesting the wasted kinetic energy that impacts the ground. Normally that force would just wear the ground out
>>108216413They did that decades ago? Barely charge a nokia over a day...
>>108216408>generates about 2 to 8 watts of energy per footstepA watt isn't a unit of energy.
>>108215975Because charging 3x for pouring concrete wasn't profitable enough
>>108216439>A watt isn't a unit of energy.You're right. It's a unit of energy transfer.Now, what's your reasoning behind making yourself look like a dipshit in public by bringing that up?Also, them qoutation marks? They're just there for show. They couldn't possibly signify anything that anyone with an education would have been able to recognise...As you likely require it explaining, sarcasm can be more than a seven letter word. Maybe an adult will be able to help.
>>108216429>>108216426a solid surface bounces you off it without give means maximum energy efficiency for movementa floor that absorbs the pressure means you bounce off less and moving forward takes more energy. Any floor movement downwards mean you have to compensate it by working against the gravity more.
>>108216426not him but the cost comes from having to lift yourself each time.you almost have it, you're right it costs you nothing to step on the plate, however, now you're lower than where you started. that's what the generator took from you. now that you're lower, your next step is a step /up/, which takes more energy than a flat step, the same amount of energy the generator tookthis is like a subtle version of a stair-climbing exercise machine
>>108215975Let's see how quickly all them indians and nigerians destroy those.
>>108216464>a floor that absorbs the pressure means you bounce off lessSurely the variable property there is the rate of decompression? By your supposition there I'll not get extra height on a trampolene...>Any floor movement downwards mean you have to compensate it by working against the gravity moreHow far does this piezo compress, precisely?Are you able to evidence that this compresses more than the 'regular floor'? >>108216466>cost comes from having to lift yourself each time.But are you lifting *more*? >however, now you're lower than where you startedAre you tho?I can see your reasoning, but I strongly suspect you're failing to take into account that both concrete and tarmac - two common paving materials - compress significantly more than piezo...>this is like a subtle version of a stair-climbing exercise machineOr is it a less subtle version than the concrete slabs?
>>108216337That's been attempted before. It's a terrible idea. Terrible efficiency, terrible durability, a nightmare to service.
>>108215975And yet fuel is still more cost efficient and environment friendly.
>>108216495>But are you lifting *more*?yes, the plate moves down when you step on it. you can see it in the video, it has to move because it uses that to generate electricityif it's hard to imagine, try thinking about a more extreme version of the same thing, like imagine the plates move down 150mm, like the height of a common stair step. now when you step to the next plate, you're lifting yourself up 150mm each time... exactly like walking up a staircase. it's the same thing whether it's 150mm or 20mm, the latter is just easier, but still more effort than if the ground doesn't move, or 0mm steps (or nearly 0mm since no ground is perfectly immovable)
>>108216500>cost efficient and environment friendly.Than harvesting what would otherwise be wasted energy?
>>108216517>you can see it in the videoVideo??>it has to move because it uses that to generate electricityTypically, the amount of distance a piezo needs to move is pretty much zero, and the material itself compresses about 0.1% of it's length, with commonly limited loads to 20-30% of it's structural limit - making this compression distance even less...What can you offer to suggest that your common concrete paving slab compresses less when you tread on it?Same rewls for tarmac? Good luck..
>>108215975if it apply in amerimutt i bet it would generate so much electricity as they have huge amount of obese people.
>>108216517>like imagine the plates move down 150mmBTW. Most places has legislation that puts >25mm into catagory of 'trip hazard'...>>108216560>they have huge amount of obese people.You think they get that obese by walking everywhere?
>>108216558
imagine how much more useful discussions would be if OPs included a link to the source
>>108215975and effectively ruin your knees in the long time
>>108216597That movement there I'll put money on is *only* for the 'rotation motion' and entirely unrelated to pizeo generation...ie: consequence of this precise implimentation...I'll accept these things move down, and that's a 'waste' - but them don't gotta...
>>108216529yes, using resources on what is ultimately a net loss of energy is wastefulWe're talking about it, and that's the only effect it was intended to have, so bully for them.
>>108216623>is ultimately a net loss of energyGot maffs to back that?Or is that based on pure feels?Sure, the actual return depends on traffic the tiles get, And no two places, or even days, are likely the same. But beating 'net loss' sounds easy...>and that's the only effect it was intended to haveBeing posted here, a year later, maybe.But it's actual intended goal is power generation and data collection... Which tend to happen if you talk about them or not.
>>108215975Just put solar panels on the roof of every buildingWhy is anyone entertaining retarded shit like this?
>>108216682>Just put solar panels on the roof of every buildingIt makes more sense, and would harvest more energy overall.But it won't be enough. I can load my roof with panels and get by easy enough. But cities tend to go 3D, and the surface area of 'roof' vs the surface area of 'consuming' go outta whack real quick...Idea behing these paths is they'll take the load off for the streetlights, and a few privacy invasive data collection metrics... You prolly *could* do that with rooftop solar, but after putting panels on their roof the selfish fuckers tend to want to eat that energy...
>>108216401They do it at home too. I mean we have arcades in my home town still anyway. Why is it weird to have both? Don't you go to a theatre sometimes, too?
>>108216113now do it at Shinjuku station
>>108216758>Don't you go to a theatre sometimes, too?i think the last time i went to a theatre was to watch avatar... the first one
>>108216772>last time i went to a theatreMe n a few mates went to see "I am legend". Think that was the last time I was in a theater. Apparently I was the only one laughin' when will smith killed his dog...Overall? Their projector is a little nicer than mine but mine doesn't have a room full of retards to spoil the movie... Which I can obtain for free. There's literally zero competition.
>>108215975i saw that on rick and morty. its slavery
>>108216810>I was the only one laughin' when will smith killed his dog...i had my suspicions but this now confirms that you aren't a real person
>>108216308>regardretard
>>108216810>>108216772avengers 3d with 2 peers from rehab lol
>>108216821>you aren't a real personAnd thank fuck for that. And everything else that seperates me from you.Person, from the latin, Persona, meaning: Mask.I'm not the thing that sits in front of the identity.Eye~R the identity.
>>108216597>smart street furniturebased Jevon's Paradox enjoyers>make some more energy>use it to power useless shit you'd never make if not for the energy source>the energy source isn't even a net positive to begin with>???>profit...?
>>108215975americans would dig it up and steal it
>>108216901stupid loser retard if we dependended on people like you we wouldn't even have fire, i hate you and i hope you never breed you piece of shit
>>108216922People like me only exist because we have fire. We shall multiply and fill the earth until you return to monke.
>>108216401>It's bizarre to me that in the year of our lord 2026 the Japanese still have places to go to do things and have fun instead of permanently being stuck in the pod miserable and scared like in the west
What happens when it rains?Dust?Trash?Fat people?
>>108216940this but the opposite
>>108215975Solar FUCKIN' runways!?
>>108215975Whiteys will steal it soon.
>>108215975It's not free electricity. It makes you expend just a wee bit more energy with each step you take on it.That's not to say it's a bad idea, just that we need this in America.
>>108216462>You're right. It's a unit of energy transfer.Which is useless, you need to specify time as well. It could be generating 1.21gigawatts, but if it's only doing so for 1picosecond then that's fuck all energy.>$50 and $100 each>1 to 3 kWh of electricity daily in a heavily used installation.1kWh is ~$0.08, so using the pessimistic estimates (which are probably more realistic) in the highest traffic area (which sees 3.0 million people per day) would mean it'd take >3 years to recoup costs.
>>108216916Resale value on a stolen $100 tile?Risk of interception?Both o them suggest a certain level of desperation to even consider... >>108216949>instead of permanently being stuck in the podBut that is literally the other option... >>108216940>People like me only exist because we have fireYes. You're a parasite.People like me obsolete fire. That's literally caveman shit.>We shall multiply and fill the earth until you return to monke.But you're creating retards. This isn't quite the felx that you seem to think it is...>>108216996>runways!?Um. Whut?You done the maffs on a 737MAX slappin' into that?>>108217027>it'd take >3 years to recoup costs.And with a lifespan of over 5 years...
>>108215975there's a thousand articles covering this rollout, and absolutely no follow upsDraw your own conclusions
>>108216307It would feel more like you're walking through mud than going up hill IMO.
>>108216597you highlighted the wrong part, friend.
>>108217201yea if you look at any of their advertising the electricity generation is secondary to it's actual purpose
>>108215975Go ahead, show the Japanese women stepping on it with their feet.
>>108216401When arcades died in my country I felt sad. It was the best place to pick up chicks and go for dates.
>>108215975performative green energy
>>108217180>and absolutely no follow upsRealistically, you'd need to run it for years... Tho I suppose by the end of the week you could guestimate how much it saved on the streetlights or whatever...
literally posted by>mujeet hayaz good morning sirs
>>108215975I'm only here for oil fags schizo banter.
>>108216401Of course it is, you dumb zoomie
>>108215975>tax on walkingAmazing!
>>108215988Considering how densely inhabited some cities in Japan are?Assuming that this miraculous technology will not fall apart after one day of being constantly stepped on, it's probably pretty decent amount of electricity. Still, it's obviously not enough to light up an entire city, but street lamps and some vending machines and some info screens should work just fine.>>108216401It's called having a culture, filthy burger obviously cannot understand it.
>>108215988lol
>>108216949have you ever been to japan?first most of them go to these arcades to sit quietly next to each other and never ever interact with anyone elsesecond re:scared a number of them freeze like deer in headlights if you chat them up in the streetthere's endless good things about japan but you somehow picked the two characteristics least applicable to their culture
This feels like one of those technologies that cost more to implement and maintain than they're going to ever manage to be worth.A neighbor of mine has covered his roof in solar collectors, swearing by it every chance he gets. However the cost of the initial install alone is so high, and the power generated so low, that by his own best estimations this will have paid for itself in 30-40 years. And that's if it needs no maintenance, no new parts, no upgrades and no configuration at all.
>>108217850There's a reason why you should get your panels inspected by a professional and calculate the cost before buying and putting up random ass panels. Most solar companies do that.
>>108217860Oh I'm not disagreeing with you on that, I'm just saying that it's giving off the same vibe as what OP has presented.
>>108216996These are neither solar nor runways. It's a foot stomp powered sidewalk.
>>108216401>it's bizarre to see a functioning society after 2020
>>108217319I guess my conclusion is the same as yours, wait until there's something positive to report. If it takes forever then wait forever, in 2 week increments of course.
https://www.aol.com/articles/japan-just-cancelled-cherry-blossom-163610297.html?guccounter=1Japan had to cancel its Cherry Blossom festival this year. One of the leading complaints among locals? People publicly defecating in their yards and on the streets.Japan YES!
>>108215975yay, Solar FREAKIN' Roadways 2: Electric Boogaloo!
>>108215975>Japan>Check the photo>0 japanese
>>108216433But a Nokia runs out of battery in 3 days, so using those shoes makes it unkillable, right?
>>108216310This is how Marvel vs Capcom 2 became so popular with black people. The game wasn't popular, so the MvC2 arcade machines ended up being sold off at cheaper prices, and budget laundromats ended up buying them. Thus, low income black communities ended up having greater exposure to MvC2.
>>108216234kek
>>108216464>Any floor movement downwards mean you have to compensate it by working against the gravity morethis, I have one of these floors in the entrance of a supermarket in my city, like a small 2x2 meters, and it's so annoying to walk on it for 2 seconds, I can't imagine an entire sidewalk
>>108217201>>108216597dystopian as fuck
>>108218436you laugh, but he's not wrong. we're making floors that both extract energy from you and track your movements... and you're laughing.
>>108215975Anything to avoid actual innovation in solar power, because the US will not allow it.
>>108216310>Cruis'n USA>Marvel Super Heroes vs Street Fighter (not marvel vs capcom)Whoever picked these has great taste.
>>108215975Al Jaffe (cartoonist for Mad Magazine back in the 1970s) came up with this idea, with drawings, in the 1970s. It's about as realistic now as it was then.
>>108216761>now do it at Shinjuku station>cost of installing and maintaining: 9999999999999999999>cost recouped from energy generation from footsteps: 30
i've heard of this shit 15 years ago
>retarded shit:(((>retarded shit in japan:OOO
nuclear energy is the only way forward
>>108215975This is more retarded than solar freaking roadways. At least solar roadways took energy from the sun. These take energy from your steps, meaning that walking on them is harder than on a regular road. All the maintenance horrors and costs are the same as the solar roadways was too.
>>108215975It's either not effective at all or it'd be more tiring to walk on compared to a regular sidewalk.
>>108215975Someone post the thunderf00t video.
Just build a nuclear power plant and light up as much as you want instead.
>>108216234Isn't this like that one rick and morty episode? forgot the name
Go back to your reels.
BREAKING is the important word here
>>108215975this is just piezoelectricitiy which was already tried in roads before and cellphone screens to trickle charge the phone. fuck off weeaboo
>>108218403I remember when the game was new and it was pretty much at the center of every arcade I ever visited and was often being played. Meanwhile I've never seen a MVC2 cabinet at a laundrymat. Maybe they were just very plentiful and ended up at odd places?
>>108215975I'm glad that solar roadways are back
>>108223387>>108216310For me it was(and still is) the neo geo multicab with metal slug and maybe a samsho plus some third party shmup garbage
>>108215975>mfw sidewalk is down for weekly maintenence
>>108216409That's good exercise
>>108224889maybe install them in office building hallways so when tired employees go get coffee they get exercise at the same timeno need to generate meagre amounts of electricity tho
>>108215975Japanese people will literally do anything except fuck
>>108216401Wild to think that there are entire generations of kids who don't know what it's like to play outside. They don't know it used to be normal for all the kids on the street to just be outside and play together all the time and that older kids would go out to places like arcades or parks when they got old enough to walk there.Most kids stayed out all day wandering around with the only restriction being that they had to be home before dark.
>>108225251I'm in my 40s and had those parents who were pulling the 'you come home right after school youll get murdered outside its scary dont you watch the news', how fucking old do you have to be to have had freedom as a child?
>>108226312depends where you live i guess. not him but i grew up in new zealand, 35 years old and it was very much normal for kids to basically do whatever outside until it got dark, with pretty much the only requirement that they let parents know where they're going (if not just on your street), and who with so they know whose parents to call/where to look if you take too long. oh and you know, keep a couple coins on you so you can use a payphone ;)
>>108216337>japan falls for the solar freaking roadways scamwould it make sense to build it on a roof atop of the highway?
>>108226312I'm 35 and the general rule was to be home before dark/when dinner is ready. Of course, I was/am a loser who wanted to be inside and play videogames so it wasn't usually a big deal, but still.
>>108215975those connectors are going to wear out in 3 days
>>108226739That's what I got be home for dinner. Shit I could get it and then go out again and be home before it got dark. Didn't older gen have way more freedom with kids than even ours? They used to air those do you know where your kids are ads lol
>>108215975Solar roadways!
>make pavement that steals energy from you to power tracking and monitoring systems so they can advertise stuff to youNo doubt it also analyses your gait and uses the monitoring to advertise ozempic if you're too fat
>>108215975>JAPAN is doing thingbro this is a british company that's been making these things since 2009>@muheet fayazmakes sense
>>108228204What a tiny little test strip.It’s most likely some eng department group project or programme, like the hyperloop teams where they bolt some shit onto aluminum openbeam, add some scooter wheels and a tank of compressed air as propellent and submit it for competition.Some of these are still going on despite the hyperloop test track being erased from the timeline.
>>108226312Depends on where you live. We didn't have any of that shit in my area because we were a small rural town, and no schizophrenic nannies existed there.t. 35
>>108228204>>108215975Japan (in specific areas) have been doing this for a long time
>>108228204If these worked wouldn't it make more sense to put them in a high traffic area? The queue area for the subway comes to mind.
>>108216597>clean energyUhuh, where did that energy come from? Some fatso. Where did that energy come from? Junk food. Where did that energy come from? Diesel-powered John Deere tractors and long-haul trucks. Clean my ass.
>>108217201Does it connect to your social credit government account?
>>108216216Kinda reminds me of this
>>108215975>muhfeet gayass
>>108215975Those things will never make back the energy wasted on making and installing them.
>>108215988These in Tokyo would power a lot, actually.>>108215975Didn't they try similar with solar road generation which hasn't really been adopted anywhere?It's cool tech, but unless the tech is at a price-point to allow these to be pilot programmed in more than one location/country, it's hard to care about it.
>>108215975I still don't understand this meme, why is this appearing EVERYWHERE now?
>>108216216Manhack Arcade vibes frfr
>>108230438Is old people sex also gross for old people? I'd rather enjoy the finer things
>>108224606>plus some third party shmup garbagePulstar?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYyFhNhEcFg
>>108215975>japan invented piezoelectric tilesno I don't think they did
>>108216603Not "your" knee. "theirs".Only the poor need to walk outside.You didn't think the rich would install those in their private neighbourhood? Did you?
>>108215975add solar panels to that and you got infinite energy.btw, they should add something like that in America and crank the difficulty up so walking becomes twice as difficult. Maybe this way Americans will lose some weight
>>108216597All I see is a fair amount of easily accessible copper in these tiles.
>>108236027that's because you're a ni
is piezo the thing with the crystal and you whack it and you get a spark? that clicky thing you find in discarded lighters that you pull out and zap your mates with
>>108236330yes, lighters do use this, the piezoelectric effect, where if you strike particular kinds of crystals, they emit electricity (and the inverse, which is how those flat buzzers/beepers work like in watches and the like). such piezoelectric elements also resonate at specific frequencies depending on their shape, so they're also frequently used as oscillators
>>108215975You see why all those clickbait photos never are part of text articles or videos. That device has lots of moving parts and how manage the rainwater?
>>108216216japaneepopipo are crazy
>>108216401Most japanese people live in Tiny apartaments, there is a single TV and the family share the bedroom.There isnt reason for play VN porn games if your parents or wife see your porn.
>>108216401it's funny how people think nips are antisocial just because they have hikis when most of them actually seem to spend far more time outside than white people do.they go do stuff, they go out for drinks together, they go to the park to play basketball or ride skateboards or play guitar, they have a good time. meanwhile white people go to the store to buy food and hurry back home to continue watching netflix or play vidya.
>>108215975>japan>nigger, latinos, white chick
>>108215986>fpbp/thread
