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I’m currently overseeing a transition in our company that, even a year ago, seemed like sci-fi.

We’ve integrated Claude Code to the point where it’s replacing significant chunks of what used to be all level developer roles. But we didn’t stop there. We’ve started using audio models to automate tasks that require human hearing.

Every day, we identify another "manual" cognitive process and hand it over to a model or a usual program.

From a technical and operational standpoint, the results are staggering. We’re leaner, faster, and more capable than ever. But as someone who has spent a career building teams, there’s a growing sense of unease. We’re moving from "augmenting" staff to simply not needing them for these domains anymore.

I’m curious to hear from other tech leads and founders: Are you leaning into this and "boosting" the acceleration - aiming for 100% automation as fast as possible to see where the ceiling is? Or are you intentionally slowing down the rollout to give your team and the industry more time to adapt?

Is your goal to automate yourself out of a job, or are you starting to feel the need for some "speed bumps"?
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>>108216703
What audio models are you using and for what tasks?
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>>108216716
AWS
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>>108216703
go back
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>>108216748
you first https://4chan.org/g/utwg
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>>108216703
Posted by a reddit account created 1 month ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1rb2zo8/im_seeing_the_humanintheloop_vanish_faster_than_i/
really sloppy on Anthropic's part, at least their shill bots on twitter are usually at least a couple of years old
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numbers and apocalypse starts tomorrow
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>>108216791
benchod
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work tomorrow...
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goodnight /twg/
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I wanna go home. I don't like this party. I'm allergic to people.
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is it over? Claude is more capable than the vast hordes of shit engineers and shit developers that plague this industry. I was in denial at first and I think there is a massive bubble going on regarding the AGI hype (thank you Scam Altman), but when it comes to coding, this shit is useful.
A strong senior developer using Claude is far more capable than 5 code monkeys. My only remaining cope are the thermodynamic limits of this shit. Tokens are expensive and you can run out of them pretty quickly.
Give me new copes because I'm looking at a dire future. They will get ride of us just like they did with the manufacture workers the last century
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>>108217594
>is it over?
yes, please kindly evacuate to your nearest suicide pod
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>>108217594
The brains of those senior engineers will quickly turn to mega mush as they crutch on over using it. I'm already seeing it where I work. Explaining why the code has a basic problem turns into a long task, like explaining to a five year old why he can't only eat ice cream for every meal. If a ticket is too vague to pr00mpt they just throw their hands up because they've lost their ability to reason. If this thing keeps going on and these tools become too expensive to subscribe to the shallow husks that were once senior level programmers will have the skills of a junior, i you're lucky, more likely a jeet with stack overflow.
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>>108216703
I'm really happy for you, ChatGPT.
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Back from 3 weeks holiday.. back to the full jeet team
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>>108217352
>"Ok guys, stack up every copy of the work you've been doing."
>"Now I'm going to take a picture of my wife next to them and claim all the credit for her. By the way she's your new boss, I just promoted her because she's fucking me."
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What honestly pisses me off about AI is that there’s so much scamming and bubbling all over the place, that if genuine good AI tech were to be released, it’s impossible to verify whether it’s not just another astroturfed jeet hackjob or not.

This timeline is so extremely gay. I hate jeets. I hate jewish american techbros. I hate normie cattle eating up everything. I hate imperialist capitalism. FUCK.
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>>108217782
racist much?
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>>108217897
including you right? else post proof
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>>108217594
Factory automation and this are two very different things.
You install a robot arm in a factory, and you have to program in every action that it does. It can't do anything on its own. Once it's done and you hit start, it just goes through the list of instructions one by one. It does the same thing every time and you can look at the source code to verify it. It can't change anything, it just does what it's programmed to.
The AI stuff, it's all an obscure black box. You don't know why it does what it does, it doesn't do it the same way every time, it has no concept of truth or lies so it'll make up things because it sounds correct to the predictive text model. It's not ready and I think places that are mass-adopting it will start to roll it back after having lots of bugs and reliability issues (like how every update breaks windows 11 in new ways)
once it's as reliable and repeatable as a PLC controlled robot arm, then you can doomspiral
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>>108218015
Thats great but can by finances and health outlast this retarded bubble or not is the question
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>>108218040
Sadly, the market can be irrational far longer than you can stay solvent.
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>>108217996
The fact that I can string more than 5 words without a glaring grammar or syntax mistake should be proof enough
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>>108218219
sadly, I've never been solvent
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>>108216695
Didnt even get to that point. Got insta denied because i didnt have an arbitrary paper telling others i slaved away for 3 years learning nothing for a bachelor. Why even invite me to an interview then? It’s in my fucking CV retards.
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wakey wakey wagies, its monday!!!!
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Getting ready to pay a big old $2000 a month in rent so I can live near the office since our multimillionaire CEO decided to end remote work so we can "collaborate more."
Thanks I love working just to stay poor. Whatever I need to do to make sure the shareholders can keep feeling like slave masters.
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>>108218409
This really epitomizes the difference between the millennial internet and the zoomer internet.
This guy got rich by taking pol memes and turning them into bits. He is very funny and good at what he does but millennials created all of this shit out of nothing but love of the game and their own free time and then zoomers take it, cash in, and then turn around and punch down. It's just sad man. I'm waiting for one single thing that can't be commodified to be discovered.
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i'm already at the office (desk next to my bed)
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>>108218653
just set up the ec2 cluster broe
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>>108218681
>i'm already at the office (desk next to my bed)
this. WFH life is comfy
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My salary is fifty-two thousand (52,000) pre-tax United States dollars per year.
These dollars are then taxed at the federal, state, and municipal levels.
Then I receive post-tax dollars to make purchases with, which are then taxed.
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>>108218824
you're helping keep the streets clean
you should feel proud
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>stop at gas station for morning coffee while on commute to the office
>see pretty girl
>urge to commit suicide acutely intensifies
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>>108219017
look at it this way, seeing a pretty girl is in itself an enjoyable experience. it's like seeing a nice sunrise, or a beautiful flower.
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>be put into a team that was made recently
>provides X resources to the company by following Y steps
>fast forward a few weeks
>turns out Y was a stupid ass way to do it and any new request is halted because of how it was done
>team will have to make new process
>Im the monkey tasked with handling clients and thus complaints about new request being stopped/denied with no date in sight for when stuff will go on as usual again
Kill me, pete
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>>108218409
>wakey wakey wagies, its monday!!!!
?
Monday is a jiggle mouse to keep teams light on day
Post this again tomorrow
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>>108216703
>But we didn’t stop there
Stopped reading.
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>>108217518
>another Elon prediction
He makes so many retarded ones they're as reliable as predictions from a schizophrenic park hobo.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_predictions_for_autonomous_Tesla_vehicles_by_Elon_Musk
This one is just about tesla shit and almost everything he says fails to deliver. How anyone besides smooth brained deep pockets having investors care about what idiotic guess he feels like blurting out at this point is beyond me.
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>>108218272
>no commas
>no period
liar
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>>108218653
dont use aws
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Fyuuuh.. what a week
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Shut up david
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>>108219305
So true.
Neurotypical people prioritize social comfort and harmony, while autistic people prioritize accuracy, honesty, and clarity. Neither is objectively wrong, but forcing an autistic person to constantly navigate the "games" of neurotypical subtext is a major source of anxiety and exhaustion for them.
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Your relative decide to dress like this right when she turns 18 and starts making $50k right away online. It only goes up from there. What would you do and how would you feel?
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>>108219642
>she
I disregard w*men·
>he
Rape.
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>>108219642
I’m only a couple years away from replying “rape then murdersuicide”
But as of now its still “ignore and open another bottle of wine”
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>>108219639
>Neurotypical people prioritize social comfort and harmony, while autistic people prioritize accuracy, honesty, and clarity.
How do I learn more about this stuff? I might be autistic and didn't know it

>>108219642
Is this relative a cousin? If so, I'dask her how much she charges for a quick fuck
Joking, I'm too much of a coward for that.
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spent all day flirting with egirls on my phone again award
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Anyone on a dev team without a PM? This is so fucking stupid lol. Execs just push PM roles to our devs.
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>>108216703
It's Joever, I was at the pharmacy today and the pharmacist said I looked like a programmer and asked if I used Claude. I was confused and he said that even though he's a pharmacist claude code is so intelligent that it wrote a program that makes API calls to another version of Claude that tells him what medicine to make, he then handed me my bottle before I even showed him the prescription. He then said "check it out" and put a flash drive in my laptop and it automatically put claude on my laptop and the agent refactored my entire codebase that I worked on over the past 5 years in under 2 minutes and it was much cleaner code then I could ever write and it found 30 bugs we didn't even know about and then it autopushed all of its changes to master and it said "written by claude code" in the commit message and now my boss saw it and is using claude for 97.6% of his code and it's agents even predicted what our new clients would ask for before they even got off the phone with sales and it had the entire project, that would've taken us 10 years, ready to show them at our first meeting. I have spent the last month just playing paper basketball at my office because claude does so much work for me but I know my time is coming
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>looking into support mailbox
>someone is whining about notification emails when something gets approved
>they cc'd their VP
>their VP in the chain replies back with something "did you read the email???"
kek holy fuck I'm dying. why are execs so freaking funny
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How do you guys deal being unable to take long vacations for fear of people realizing you're really necessary?
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>>108220141
take the long vacation
fuck corpos
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>>108216703
Should I learn to weld?
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>>108220159
I'd do that, but I need to feed my family.
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>>108220141
>oh no, they need me, I can't leave them just like that
that's slave mentality. imagine giving a shit.

>>108220175
wtf does that even mean? you don't get paid during vacation? is this some weird larp?
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>>108220182
If I get fired I won't have means to live for very long. Specially in this economy.
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>>108220206
well you shouldn't have had sex.
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>>108220230
Thanks, rabbi.
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>>108220141
>people realizing you're really necessary
>>108220206
>If I get fired
did you mistype that or something? why would you get fired for being needed?
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>>108220242
Not* really necessary.
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>>108220285
I see. how much do you get paid? how much have you managed to save? do you live below your means, or depend 100% on your next paycheck? if the answer is the latter... start living below your means and start saving, or better yet, start investing, you retard.
I bet you pay $2k+ for daycare for your kid lol
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i should be fed into a woodchipper
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>>108220355
If its dick first then it's going to take me a day to get to the base.
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>>108220351
I have savings and I don't get paid a whole lot. But the whole sentiment around companies replacing workers with AI is just terrible.
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>>108220523
I know that feel, but we either ride this bad wave or try to take advantage of our position in life and do something to make sure we don't fall
try to stop stressing over it and somehow build energy to be more confident and optimistic about your own abilities, then start building something on your own. anything. buy property and become a landlord, build some app and make it popular, buy land and install solar panels... whatever.
try things, anon.
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>>108216703
Fuck off
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>new boss
>female
>never had one before but how bad can it be
>she is now requiring daily stand up meetings so she can know what we are working on
>"oh are we not doing time cards anymore?"
>nope now we are using Azure DevOps
>and instead of logging my time on a project level I have to do it task by task
>came in and did time keeping so log time there 15 mins
>did this ticket which took 3 mins
>did this ticket which took 2 minutes
>did this ticket which took 10 mins
>did this programming task for 30 mins until i got a call
>okay gotta log that call in its own task
>it doesn't have a task
>"hey do you have a task for this"
>not yet so okay i gotta make it
>okay now morning meeting
>gotta log that task
>working on programming until lunch
>gotta log that task
>oh all of these tasks now need a discription of what i did during each time log?
>go back and fix my time loga
>log that time under the time logging task
>late lunch
>come back
>work on two more issues
>gotta log that time
>had a meeting with someone else
>log that time
>end of the day I've logged over a dozen tasks
>end of the day we have our standup
>she already has our time logs but now requires that we all sit in a meeting for 30 mins while we tell her what we already did and what is already logged and what she already knows
>we have to listen to everyone else do this
>every single day
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>>108220823
>also every two weeks we have to have a 2 hour long meeting where we review what went well and didnt go well and what we need to improve on
>"remember that one thing? That was bad"
>"remember that other good thing? That was good"
>"remember how we need to do this? Yeah thats what we will work on"
>we then go through every single task again and she asks us the status again
>for every. Single. One.
>the exact same thing we've already been discussing in each standup again
>we then need to move it to new iterations
>each task also needs us to guess how long it will take
>management will get upset if its not exact
>finished it sooner that's bad
>something came up and it took too long thats bad
>please just perfectly guess each time within 5%
>this has been going on for a few months now
>upper management got back to use confused as to why productivity is down
Someone kill me. Is this what its like to be a woman? Is this why they are so mad and cunty all the time?

This hasn't improved anything. We've just created all this documentation and artificial deadlines that management gets stressed about when we don't hit. And everyone is working less now.

Someone kill me. It was perfectly fine before. Everyone just worked and said what project they were on and when it was done it was done. Everyone is stressed for fuck all reason now. There are times when we have hard deadlines we need to hit. But now everything is treated that way.
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>>108220830
Haha, my female only does 10 minute dailies without logging.
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>>108220351
Savers just lose in debt fiat clown world.
If everyone else is willing to live paycheck-to-paycheck and go through life up to their eyeballs in debt, it's like a boatload of money just getting dropped out of helicopters and increasing the price of everything. If you aren't playing the same game you just get left in the dust.
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>>108220823
>>108220830
she obviously has no idea of what she's doing and is wasting your time. why don't you have a serious conversation with her, tell her she's making your life more difficult, and that things shouldn't really work like that and that you are not robots? why can't you pepple be honest and direct? just be as respectful and diplomatic as you can, and don't get mad or scared if she says something you don't like.
if that doesn't work, talk to her boss. subtly imply that you will be leaving.

>>108220897
>Savers just lose in debt fiat clown world.
sure. at the very least put that money in high interest accounts/CDs
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>>108220906
>talking to women
>giving feedback to women
That's how you get fired.
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>>108220823
It sounds frustrating to adapt to a new boss who micromanages with daily stand-ups and detailed time tracking, making the workday feel more like reporting than actual productivity. Despite the inconvenience, it seems like you'll need to find a way to navigate the new process while hoping it might improve or change over time.
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>>108220830
You need to be less sexist anon. No I am not joking. Be an adult and stop being so whiny.
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>>108220823
>>108220830
its time to pull up your big boy pants and stop being a child
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>>108220823
>>108220830
>"No! The evil woman is making me log my time!"
Trying being less of an incel. The fact that your company didn't have this in place before hiring a woman is actually quite poetic.
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>>108220830
>>108220823
>incel comes crying to /g/
>gets put in his place
This isn't the 4chan of 2010. This place is now properly moderated and used by woman like reddit is. I hope you get banned and learn your lesson.
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>>108220917
well, if you get severance, they might have made you a favor by saving you from their own micromanaging bitch, so what's the issue here?
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>>108220971
He would have to start posting in /utwg/
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>>108220971
We know that's still you posting. Stop talking to yourself incel.
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>>108220830
Worst thing I hated when I worked for a consulting company. Had to log time for every hour I spent working for a client. Shit sucks.
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>>108221033
It's not a big deal. Stop being a child.
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>>108220823
>>108220830
I always feel vindicated when the l33thaxxors of /twg/ break down and combust because they can’t stomach a daily standup or a Kanban board. You never wanted to be a developer. You just liked the way it felt to write bash in a terminal in front of people who can barely use a computer.
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>>108220830
>>108220823
awww is the little incel upset he's being told to do something by a woman?
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Anyone else annoyed with their Software King just deleting their repo, I'm getting increasingly annoyed with people getting offended by what I choose to identify my repo name as, it would be different if they just went "I choose not to use that name but you do you, dude."... But trying to force me to stop identifying my own repo in a way that lets the layman get a good idea of what the repo is about by trying to guilt trip me and call me problematic? What the hell?
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>/twg/ – Tech Workers General
>whining incel edition
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>>108221060
I'm a Level 1 ASD. What are you? Probably unemployed.
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>>108221040
You're describing like 90% of this gay ass board.
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>>108221073
sweetie we both know you're a joke
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>>108221082
Wrong, you lost.
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>>108221085
I look forward to the entire male industry being nothing but roping incels while we finally get the good jobs.
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>>108216690
Yo anons, when does the imposter syndrome stop?
I have worked at my company for like 7 years now, got promotions to Senior Database Engineer (i was in the last thread)
Every single year i get raving reviews, every VP i interact with likes me, every single project manager basically asks for me to be the resource for their projects, and yet i feel like im 100% just bullshitting my way through this. Anyone else feel this?
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>>108221099
I'm a girl, are you?
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>>108221105
You've achieved a lot more than me. I've been a contractor for 6 years and I wake up every day dreading the scheduled out-of-the-blue HR meeting. I look at LinkedIn and everybody is saying you need to know a lot more than I do for positions below mine. I'm just consumed by anxiety and imposter syndrome every day.
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>>108221099
>tech workforce
more like "people who work in tech companies". there are barely any women in (actual) tech or in engineering in general. they had to hire a lot of women for DEI points. now they hire indians lmao
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>>108221158
why the fuck is this place so sexist
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>>108218295
Well that's just a big sad all around
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>>108219181
>handling clients and thus complaints
doesn't sound very much like "tech work" to me
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>>108221171
We're not a hug box, we reflect reality. A woman in a tech job is like a turtle sitting on top of a fence post - they didn't get their on their own, someone put them there
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>>108219649
fag, also get your shit together
>>108219662
also fag, also get your shit together
>>108219684
this anon gets it
subscribe to her onlyfans and try to get her to do clitoral stimulation videos
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>>108221171
>sexist
tell me how I know you don't work in tech without saying it
it has nothing to do with sexism, retard. did you ever go to school for CS or engineering? how many female students were there? how many female coworkers do you have in your technical job?
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>>108221105
I feel the exact same way and am like >>108221140 although I should be senior level right now although I don't want it and have been just going through the motions my entire career
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>>108221198
Basically this.
>>108221171
because women fucking disrupt the work space.
In my time working in teh tech industry i only ever met ONE woman that was cool to hang out with

The problem is the second a woman enters the working environment it becomes a shit show, because men interact differently with other men, we bullshit we yell, we confront we are aggressive to each other but we do these things because its part of the work environment.
two examples of this from working in the field.
1 my boss LITERALLY would walk into the office and just yell "Sean! My nigga!" he was wite as fuck and no one cared
2 we would get into literally heated arguments and yelling at each other in the office, then 30 min later be like "Ok wanna go get lunch? and get some drinks from the mini mart?"

Throw a woman into that same situation and its fucking egg shells all day long.
Wanna know whos pushing for working back in an office? Ill give you a hint its not dudes its HR and women who want to feel some sort of control again, because when there is no one there to start drama with, they realize they cant actually get away with not doing shit anymore.

Im not saying women cant code, im saying they throw off the vibe of a male work environment that is by its nature a stressful one.
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>>108221271
>we bullshit we yell, we confront we are aggressive
Nta but it sounds like you work at a zoo.
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>>108221307
That's just any regular day in a third world country
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>>108221307
Nah its just a group of dudes who dont mind yelling at each other because we know its not a matter of being actually pissed at each other. Granted this is also the group that goes on drinking working out and doing shit like motocross and hunting together so.
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>>108221344
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>>108217594
Management wants it to be over
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>>108221171
You had total control of like 90% of the internet for almost a decade. Everyone who was even slightly off progressive messaging got instantly banished and funneled here, where they were quickly radicalized into extreme forms of bigotry.
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>>108221412
what the fuck even is """""S@S"""""
they are starting to realize their own uselessness while still remaining in control of the underpaid code monkey peons
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how do i tell if I'm good at my job or everyone else is just lazy? Like I straight up do nothing 2 or 3 days a week and I still feel like I'm getting substantially more done than most people in the same title on my team, and my boss like unprompted the other day was like really praising my performance, but again I'm just like not doing that much I could get 2x done if I really wanted to
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>>108221371
Unironically we would just make gorilla noises at each other.

But also it was a good learning enviorment, i asked one of the guys "Hey can you deploy a server for me." he said no but i can give you a log in and you can do it yourself ask me if you need anything and figure it out.

I then leanred how to deploy set up windows failover clusters and VM rules via just being told "Hey just fucking do it pussy."
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>>108221511
You're ruining the game. You should do half of what you're doing right now.
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>>108221511
Bro you are litearlly me, im the same way. There are days i just fucking sit around doing fuck all yet everyone loves be, everyone praises me, and every review is golden.

I realized that i would actively have to work to be a shitty employee.
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>>108220823
>>108220830
this sounds exaggerated
why would you not bring up during the review meeting that logging by task rather than project hurts productivity?
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>>108221512
A scrappy workplace environment != a frat. The latter is what’s incompatible with women. I had a girl interning on my team last year. She asked me how to publish and consume new grpc packages. I sent her the documentation. No part of this scenario required yelling or calling her a pussy.
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>>108221511
>>108221543

You guys are lucky, don't take it for granted. Team cultures are different case by case, some are full of annoying hardos trying to one up each other on productivity pace and story points. Others are full of reasonable folk meandering along at a good synchronized pace making sure people don't have to start putting in 50 hour weeks.
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>>108221564
Because unforutnatly a lot of companies now care a lot about "METRICS" and the issue here is that the people who push for this, dont understand the concept of the Goodharts law.

They also will start implementing more and more of these metrics as a way to push employees to quit rather hten firing them. The idea is you make the work enviorment so annoying to deal with that employees will quite on their own instead of getting fired or let go so that companies dont need to deal with severance packages as a result.
>>108221588
correct, but we are also all friends outside of work as well and we always delivered on time and thigns worked.
Being scarappy in your work environment and even crude != poor performance.
The problem is its very much was a male work dynamic, and bringing a woman in 100% would have thrown off that entire flow and screwed everything up and it did.

I mean it dont matter anymore, we got merged with another company when we bought them out and the good ol boys club got broken up. Now shit that used to take us like....idk 3 hours to deploy from soup to nuts, IE Some one sent an email asking for it, and we had it delivered and ready for vendor to use, now takes collectivly like 2 weeks, 4 meetings, and about a dozen tickets to request shit we used to make ourselves.
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>>108221520
well the problem is the other 2-3 days a week I'm in the office and I get really fucking bored if I do nothing in the office
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>>108221678
Again, are you literally fucking me?
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>>108221688
I mean I'll fuck you if you want
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>>108221794
top or bottom? Do i get a reach around? and will we cuddle after?
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I work with a bunch of Israelis and they are all so hyper defensive about why anything isn't their fault or responsibility. Ask how something works as part of a debug of your thing, and they refuse to provide details until making it abundantly clear they will not help debug until you have ruled out every other scenario. I guess this is why they are all lawyers
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heard a rumor the mngmt is planning to pip several developers in our company and I might be on the list
what do? I'd like to make their life a bit more miserable if possible without legal repercussions.
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>>108221979
Shit on your boss's desk
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>>108221979
Shit on your own desk and make an AI video of your boss doing it to spread around
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>>108221877
yeah the jews are pretty good at step by step reasoning, moving down the chain until it's no longer even their problem, unless provided explicit proof otherwise (at which point you better have a lawyer)
their last resort to avoid helping others is feigned ignorance
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>>108221979
shit your pants and work harder
or go take a shit, go back to your desk, and keep doing what you've been doing because the worst they can do is fire you (hello unemployment benefits and severance package)
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>>108221979
eat your own shit and stream it

j/k. stop caring, start looking for another job and talk to a lawyer to try to extract as much money as possible from them as you can
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>>108222095
>hello unemployment benefits and severance package
Nope, a failure in PIP'ing means failure to carry out your duties which is grounds for firing with a cause and bye-bye to benefits.
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>>108221520
I take 10 hour office days sometimes so i can avoid being forced to go to my shitty home longer
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>>108222231
keep doing what you're doing. if they say you are doing well, say "thank you" and believe them. whatever you do, don't question it. just let them think you're doing well
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>>108221979
Use tadalafil and then your boss that your penis has improved even without being put on a Penis Improvement Plan.
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>>108222231

Kek this is the other problem. The resident haters of anything outside of office life just lurking around because they don't want to go do anything else forcing the hours standard to go up
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I had my coffee break with my coworker crush, I was anxious as fuck and I could feel she was nervous when we saw each other, she offered me coffee and then we started talking, it flew very well as usual and then we both became more relaxed.

Once it was time to go back to our offices, I told her I had been wanting to ask her to get coffee for a very long time but I never did because I knew she didn't drink coffee so I thought there was no way. It made her laugh and she said she indeed didn't drink that and she never takes coffee breaks, she said it's extremely rare when she takes breaks. But she did invite me for a break on Friday and agreed when I invited her again on Monday.

I didn't fuck it up right? My brain is telling me that I took her time and made her do something she never does usually.
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>>108222396
she wanted to spend time with you, anon. don't worry, you're doing great
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>>108222231
Do you mean bad family life or are you an actual drone who like the physical office space?
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>>108222231
Based wife-hater
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>>108222396
yeah yeah go ahead and enjoy your perfect life but please don't rub it in our faces
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Do you guys have this bad feeling too? Like something seguis about to happen?
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>>108222840
Do you mean recently? Or more than usual?
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>>108222157
then maybe look at the employee handbook before you sign it next time
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>>108222396
good on you for putting yourself out there anon
as for the anxiety, I'm sure you faked not being anxious just fine, she might not even have noticed (even if she did who cares it's in the past)
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>>108222840
first time?
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Cert recommendations?

I'm a few months from finishing my BS in cybersecurity. Before I roll into a master's I want to knock out a few certs. I know I need the Le SEC+, but what else should I go for? I would like to orient toward offensive security, but forensics is probably more likely.
>hurr durr degrees are a waste of money
Yes, I agree. I'm not paying for it.
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>>108217605
>The brains of those senior engineers will quickly turn to mega mush

Many senior engineers are already like this. They want to become managers ASAP because their IQ is leaking out of their ears due to aging.
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>>108223138
Certificate of Proficiency in Welding
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>>108223160
Very helpful, thank you.
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>>108223138
do you currently work in industry? or just going to school.
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Should i get this book
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>>108223251
Just school for now.
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>>108216703
>From a technical and operational standpoint, the results are staggering.
a bot wrote this.
Fucking cunts; no product all marketing
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>>108223290
FUCKING WORK INDUSTRY!
Like that's my advise to you above even certs.
So many people get all this education and degrees but have fuck all real world experience.
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>>108223312
chicken and egg problem though
unless you have a nepo connect
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>>108223326
You can work a lot of entry level tech jobs but i admit getting your foot in teh door fucking sucks but just warning you that i would hate to see you be one of those guys that gets a degree, and then all these certs but no one wants to take you becuase zero work experience.

Many cases like it.
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>>108222396
>I had my coffee break with my coworker crush
The one time i get to see my coworkers a year and i single handedly ran up a $300 bar tab every night, didnt use the baseball tickets that were already bought and paid for me and instead i ditched everybody for a femboy on grindr

But im glad you're work life is going well, i hope it grows into a healthy, long term companionship and maybe a bit more

>>108223138
>>108223312
>So many people get all this education and degrees but have fuck all real world experience
I never attempted to get a cert because i got in it 10 years ago and experience helped get me where i wanted to be. I still don't think certs are required but you have to get in the door somehow, usually with some connections or you start as a basic bitch. If you start as a basic bitch then certs wouldnt be a bad idea, especially if you can get your employer to pay for it
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When is the right moment to go Kubernetes?
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>>108223383
yesterday
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>>108223326
that's what they want you to think
pull yourself up by the bootstraps and pretend you are more "qualified" than you really are
in the meantime work on actual personal projects, not just classwork
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>>108222396
So you're the office cuck?
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>usually the steady but unremarkable employee
>get bit by the self improovement bug
>work ass off for 6 months, close out a shit ton of tickets
>manager notices
>talks of a promotion
>hit christmas break
>immediately lose all motivation
>can barely do 1 hour of actual work, mostly bullshit my standups
Its 2 months and I cant reignite my fire, there's even something Im supposed to get done for tomorrow which I reported as "basically finished" on Friday. Idk bros i think im closer to unemployment than I am to that promotion at this point, my manager has noticed and probably assumes I started to skate because of the mention of the promotion but really it's just burnout and the self fulfilling fear that I don't have the skills to find employment in this job market if they do let me go. Why am I like this
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>>108223253
I was interested until I saw that a woman wrote it
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how do i cope with the fact that i'm fucking retarded?
things takes long for me to understand and do and i have poor social/conversational skills.
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>cause a harmless P1
>incident management heads come to talk to me personally: "hey man we can't have any more P1s this year" (it is February)
He's gonna rat me out to the C levels, won't he? Is it over?
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>>108223631
I don't know. I'm retarded too and I make mistakes all the time. No idea why I'm even in this field.
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>>108223631
>how do i cope with the fact that i'm fucking retarded?
by realizing that most people who are not in tech are even more fucking retarded.
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>>108223617
Rookie mistake. Once you respond to the dangling carrot it'll stay at that distance forever. Just work as if you're never going to get any boons and they will sooner rather than later.
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Apathy is contagious. You better kill it before it kills team members like me.
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>>108223646
The thing is I didn't do it for the carrot. I did it because I wanted excellence in all areas of my life, and I was promised the carrot way after I had already made that shift. But it turns out it was either unsustainable or I needed a longer period of adjustment because now I basically operate in 1st gear all the time, not just for work but for everything. Its all slowly imploding.
The only thing good i have going in my life right now is I've started taking daily walks again.
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>>108223702
You're burnt out. You have to pace yourself, you're an animal, not a machine.
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>>108223617
What you do outside workhours defines how you live you entire life
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Anyone working 996 here? How do you have life outside of work? Im too scared to pick up drawing.
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>>108224350
I only do like 35 hours a week and I don't have a life outside of work.
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>>108224350
If anyone tried to force that on me I'd do 9 minutes of work at 9am on days divisble by 6.
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>>108224350
Any time I hear 996 I assume they work 30 hours max
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>>108223631
made another mistake...
>thought designing a specific unit test in this way was a good idea
>thought about these specific test cases after looking at the output
>fuck around with a shitty working copy because I dont have experience otherwise
>deep down know its dogshit but i still need feedback
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>>108221979
Put nails under their tires and polonium in their coffee
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>>108224350
I work four 12s
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>>108224951
And then what do you when you get home?
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The mindset of 4channers and social media users in general seems to be centered around this idea about "oh You're making mistake, or less unlucky than others? Picked a wrong turn? Mess up? Put in effort nobody gaf about? Too bad, the majority of people are much smarter than you and much more well off. They never make any mistakes and always pick the correct choices through their life and always get what they want. It's over for you, chud! No going back for this. You'll need to spend at least 10 - 20 years to fix shit up."
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>>108222509
I come home from my underpaid shitty fully onsite job to a noisy drug den that im going to get kicked out in less than a year. My life is a neverending cycle of trying to find any job at all, and trying to find any home at all, and always ending up with both being terrible but one slightly less terrible than the other.
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Women really need to do society a solid and just: make babies and shut the fuck up
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>>108225171
I like when they talk to me and give me treats like cookies and chocolate to get my attention at works doe
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>>108225171
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>think about jerking off
>go into the office
>pretend to listen to coworkers, but thinking about jerking off when I go home
>go home
>jerk off
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I noticed that white people in general always reply in timely manners, and it’s always brown subhumans that will go days without replying and then I always think about people who brag about quiet quitting, so I’m gonna start setting up every brownoid for failure who does this.
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how much money is enough for you to not work any more?
i do very little work at my current job but i also make 90 grand. i could hop to something else and make more money but i would have to do actual work. i've started applying and doing interviews but the idea of actually doing work sounds really unappealing.
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Woo it’s demo Tuesday, 3 hours of watching Jeets present what they’ve achieved over the pasts 3 weeks

But of course I’m gay and retarded and came to the office so I can’t just play videogames
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>>108219017
What are you waiting for?
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>>108219946
It's me, the pharmacist. You're a fag.
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>>108220141
No idea, I live in a first world country.
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>>108219946
Kek
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>jeet tells me one of his dreams is to visit japan
How do I get him fired so that doesn’t happen?
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>>108216767
Good work anon, I'm sick of people falling for botbait
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>>108217518
Hitchen's razor
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>>108221105
It's not that you aren't an imposter, it's just that everyone else around you sucks even more.
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>>108224350
I work 955 and go to the gym.
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>>108220970
Based
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>>108221979
Start looking for a new job, in the meantime send their family death threats
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>>108224350
996 doesn't even make a company more productive it's just a gimmick done by marketing dickheads in AI (chatbots using a Claude API) startups to get more investment capital from rich gamblers and as a tool to stop their employees (who predominantly consist of recent grads) from leaving and finding actually decent jobs.

Working a 72 hour week is not even remotely close to the compensation these guys offer and you'll learn far more at a real company offering a 40 hour week than one where you're sat with your thumb in your ass waiting for 9pm to role around.
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>>108227230
Personally the most work you could ever get out anyone is between 50 hours a week and 10 hours. Even for labour jobs anything more than 50 hours a week just means more drug usage and for office workers anything more than 30 hours is just straight up wasted effort.
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>>108226100
based and cnypilled
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Utwg losers DELETED
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>>108227734
we are the most oppressed race
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The thing that agonizes me is how naturally inefficient, tedious people tend to take over a corporation, make everything artificially take 2-3x longer to do, THEN demand you work more hours to be able to do the thing that once took less hours. That's the hell that I'm seeing in software.

Everything needs a big, clunky, involved Jira or Azure ticket. Everything needs to follow the proper procedure, even a one line code change. Everything needs a PR with multiple human approvers and now a fucking Copilot review, pass quality gates, endure a final round of QA, endure multiple merge conflicts while it's sitting there stewing. All of this shit piles up and adds compounding layers of cruft for even the smallest fixes and tweaks and means less can get done per hour. And then they hit you with the zinger.... the 40 hour work week is dead because we can no longer get it done in 40.

FUCK BUREAUCRATS
FUCK MANAGERS
and finally FUCK INDIA
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>>108227760
>not even 4chan wants us
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>>108227734
Wait, is /UTWG/ banned now?
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>>108225263
Didn't this fag literally suck a mans cock?
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>>108227873
some mod has a power trip once a week and deletes it
just wait like 5 hours and rebake
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>>108227734
I signed up for workdaycase dot com to get rich doing nothing
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>>108227885
No you are mistaking him for janny
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If requirements are so important how come nobody ever wants to make them huh what's up with that
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>>108228012

That part is incredible. No matter how bureaucracy and process obsessed the organization is they won't sit the fuck down and write some good requirements, it's still somehow the engineer's fault that the doc is dogshit and half of the implementation has to be conjecture, hashed out during the QA process.
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I miss UTWG some decent advice is there but the furrnigger that spams both threads needs to kys
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just need 2k/month bros, why is it so hard for a yuropeenus to find a job that gives this much
thinking of starting a saas that scams indians, they need to get what they fucking deserve
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>>108227989
Yeah he sucked Destiny's cock lmao
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>>108228028
>Dev team makes a component to do x
>QA files a bug because the component isn't also doing y so the user flow breaks down
>It gets escalated to the project manager for clarification
>"Idk do we have a requirement for that?"
>Go to the BA who says "idk what this thing even is what's happening"
>Devs ...
>QA ...
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>>108228091

Over and over again
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Hello anons i need some career advice. Im currently doing a bachelor degree in CS but its not going smoothly and i was considering doing a apprenticeship instead. There is a special apprenticeship for uni dropouts and other people with higher education that pays a little more and lands you a job immediately. In the tech field i have the choice between IT-Systems technician and software dev. To be honest i dont really have a talent or interest in programming im just addicted to videogames and trying to fix my life, i dont have any other interests. Might be worth mentioning that the IT position has almost double the job offerings as well (someone probably has to install and maintain all the datacenters). Any other anons that did a similar thing or can share some advice on what i should do? Thanks
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>>108228139
I'm a software dev who had a rocky start in first year CS and has managed to make a decent career.

That being said, I'd say to go for the IT one. If you don't like programming you will hate being a software dev. If you hate your job you'll be less likely to put in the effort needed and you'll have a worse career overall.

Some people won't think the IT one is as prestigious. Fuck 'em. It's got more openings and you won't be stuck programming. It's much better to have a career you can tolerate or even like than it is being stuck doing something you hate.
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>>108228197
Thanks, did you finish your degree though? I already kind of feel like a failure if i drop out now so another part of me is thinking i should be pushing through, taking it more seriously and fixing my screen addiction and time management instead.
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>>108228237
If the reason you are dropping out is because you lack basic responsibility and personal discipline then what makes you think you'll even be able to hold down a job?
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I've been applying ferociously since I've earned my bachelors in CS and all I have managed is a low-code job in a CRM. I will be dealing with flows and stuff like that while writing no code at all. I took the job because I felt that it is better than nothing but looking at the exact tasks I will have to deal with makes me feel miserable. Any advice is highly welcomed. Thanks for reading my blog
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>>108228237
Backing up the other anon college is easier than work, certifications or even waking up on time. You are fucked.
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>>108228282
I always needed a bit of a extrinsic push to get my shit together, whether that was high school, drivers license, or anything else. So with a job the entire responsibility shouldnt fall onto me and im still getting instructions. It sounds bad but its the truth
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>>108228322
Motivation should exist internally but beyond that just think of all of the money and what it can provide for you. Beyond that no one else is going to hold your hand for it.
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utwg is here lmao
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>>108228300
>>108228331
So youre saying its better if i stay in uni right now and get my shit together instead?
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>>108228322
Yes once you arrive, someone is there telling you what to do, but how do you even commit to showing up every day?
Why not just stay up all night playing video games and then when the alarm goes off just turn it off and go back to sleep?
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I'm on a "leadership" call with people who make 10x+ my salary. My company works with the government and these people are larping losers. Some served in the military (which is gay too)
>I love this place because I love the mission, I feel like I'm serving and as I say to my wife "this is who I am!"
What fucking LOSERS
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>>108228237
Yeah, I pushed through and got a good grade.l in the end. It was a bit touch and go for a while though and I felt a lot of the same stuff you're feeling.

For me it was struggling with programming at the start so I made a list of everything I wasn't quite getting, then tackled them one by one starting from the beginning. I was behind but I caught up.

I wasn't taking things seriously enough at the start and the experience was a wake up call. The time to take things seriously is now. If you genuinely don't like programming at all then go the IT apprenticeship, that's a fine sensible choice otherwise get your arse in gear.

You won't be a failure if you drop out and do something else you prefer you will be a failure if you drop out and don't put your effort into trying something new. This anon >>108228282 is being tough but fair
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>>108228369
Yes. But more importantly networking through clubs such as programming, robotics, engineering clubs gives you a leg up on competitors who have no internships, no club experience practicing their job in a well funded environment and making friends with people who will drag you along to their company.
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>>108228379
Kek as someone who is on the opposite side of you. It's more of a compliance test whenever leadership like that comes up. What people really need to be motivated with is clear and concise rules/regulations/goals/guidelines. These people fluff their asses up with so much shit that they can't even breath the thought outside of blind obedience. What they dream of and have ideals over the organization is not the reality for those working within it. Often times you have to carefully work around the structure to get shit done. The higher up these people go the more they forget that fact.
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>lazy, useless fatass gaymer enters a CS career because daddy told him "he's good with computers"
why is this shit so common lmao

also, start working right now, retard. and get used to being a wagie slave, otherwise you'll be a failure for life, unless you find other ways to make money (no, don't sell drugs, asshole).

t.wagie slave
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>>108228371
Ive been very irresponsible, but not to the point where i just ignore going to a job. Ive actually changed my sleep schedule to wake up at 6:30 am every day and so far havent failed a day. I dont want to cope but maybe this time is different

>>108228384
With the programming i think it was more about the difficulty increasing exponentially week after week and feeling overwhelmed on top of being irresponsible. Because when i fully understood the concepts in the lectures and got a 100/100 on the programming assignment it did feel good. I think i will continue uni this year and just apply for the apprenticeship anyway so i have a fallback option if it fails. Thank you all for the advice
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>>108228426
Those retards get filtered out in college and often get dumped in retail jobs or the military as some low IQ monkey job like Personnel, Admin or Mechanic.
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>>108228371
I had no problem showing up, I just had a problem doing stuff while at home.
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>>108228526
Play a game for 2 hours max, clean your room meme, eat some food and do some dishes then do college homework. Gotta have a schedule that ensures you are ahead of basic shit, relaxed and happy.
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good python tutorial?
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this is what the daily standup feels like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veztNJQyRJg
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>>108228618
So what fake and gay?
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>>108228139
I wouldn't recommend a CS degree to someone who LIKES programming. A degree isn't a guaranteed job, and you're only in it for a job. The "shame" of not finishing a degree is much, much smaller than the shame of being deeper in debt and jobless.
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>>108228440
If you can change your behavior to keep a job as you claim then you should be able to change your behavior to not drop out of uni. Just treat uni like it's your job.
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>program isn't working
>investigating why
>connection issue
>connection string in the config file is wrong
>file hasn't been modified for over a year
>but it just started breaking last month due to a bad value in the file
>give it the right value
>back to working fine
I'm sorry what
It took me forever to even check that file because there was no point it hadn't been modified
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Speaking of college debt. How bad is it anons?
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>>108228754
It was the equivalent of 40 paychecks for me, and I mean the entire paycheck, and it took me three years to pay off. I lived with family for the first two years to do it.
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>>108228759
Dam i assume you drove a beater car?
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>>108228754
It took me 10 years to get my bachelor's degree because I was a retard like the video game anon and kept flunking out. Ended up owing $65k, could have gotten the degree for much cheaper if I wasn't a screen addict and alcoholic. Paid it off aggressively within 2 years of graduating though. I hear these horror stories of people having student loan debt for decades and I can't imagine it.
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>>108228754
Not bad but biden was supposed to take of 10k of this. But my degree is in international affairs LMAO
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>>108228771
Tbh most of the people i see are out of state, with masters degrees, and private loans. One of these 3 can cause a massive spike past your income level of debt. A car or student loan ideally shouldn't be above your income level. Even if its close to it you should be able to put an extra 50-150 towards its principle every month.

Not to mention the other retards out there who just can't keep a budget. These people had 4ish years of no interest payments they could have made but alot of them instead bought a car and bought a house. I would've paid off my car, credit card then dump the rest in the student loan during that time period if i was them.
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>>108228767
2003 Honda accord until the day I die. I don't see a reason to buy a new car when I can use that money to invest and get closer to retiring
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>>108228735
Who would you recommend it to then?>>108228771
Do you think it was still worth sticking to or would it have been better if you quit earlier? Im the videogame anon but im lucky enough to not be in burgerland so i havent wasted much money, just time.
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>>108228835
Good choice it's not too hard to work on an accord if you invest in some tools.
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>>108228754
I have no more then 23k left, and i plan on paying it all off by the end of this year or next.
I could right now pay it all off, but it would drain me completely.
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O Allah! I fasted for You and I believe in You and I break my fast with Your sustenance.
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>>108228858
Just dump some of the savings so you round out to 20k and anything else that would go into savings should go onto the debt. You need something in savings to cover random shit but beyond a certain point(6-18 months of expenses) covered its just wasting money to not pay off debts or make investment moves. Economy is shit for the past 3 years so the latter end of saving recommendations is advised. Debt while jobless is worse imo.
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>>108228967
Oh no anon you dont understand, every month i have been throwing 1000 into savings/investments, and 1000 into Student loans
I have capped my IRA this year already so i might just fire another 7 grand into the student loans here.
I could nuke the entire 23k but i would have basically nothing in my account at that point. But i would also be done with it.
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>>108228997
Smarter than me anon. Keep it u.
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>>108228997
Please tell me you are investing well and not options trading
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>>108229039
He's buying funko pops, nfts, pokemon cards, MTG cards, Yugioh cards, rolexes, AE86's and Asics running shoes.
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>>108228139
I guess I was in the same position as you. I kind of regret my decision because I only started liking programming in my last year when things just started to make sense. Anyway ask yourself do you prefer software or hardware, not just whether you like programming or IT/sysadmin work? Even in IT jobs that are not development roles, you might still work with software and end up hating it
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>mfw i can't get a tech job nor can i post about it on 4chan
Getting a CS degree is a fate worse than death
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>>108229189
every day i regret not majoring in the liberal arts
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>>108229039
I have a $500/month cash flow straight into my dick using egirls
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If you have the option to (read: incel hikkikomori OR a very flexible partner/family) I really feel like the enlightened way to do your personal schedule is to wake up giga early, go to work, and then instantly sleep afterwards. You have your morning energy for all the fun and healthy shit you want to do, then work is the last block of the day. This way you kinda avoid slobby and brainfog exhaustion at your supposed free time.
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>>108229250
The problem is giga early is during the night which is a dreadful time to be awake (and out and about, doesn’t matter if you’re on your PC)
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>>108229250
I can confirm this works. I have a 24/7 gym 5 minutes cycling from me so I go there at around 4am for an hour max, come home and shower, clean, vidya for a couple hours

I still get a couple hours with my egirls when I come home from work though
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>>108228322
Dude just do an Ausbildung zum Systemintegrator. Less competition and much much easier than a CS degree from a non-meme uni.
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>>108228426
>lazy, useless fatass gaymer enters a CS career because daddy told him "he's good with computers"
It worked for me but I was left with the choice to either succeed or kill myself so I succeeded.
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>>108229293
I would bet money a significant amount of /twg/ falls into that group
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>>108229327
Anon wrong general, wrong part of the website entirely.
>>/lgbt/
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>>108229346
whoops wrong tab
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>>108229282
Im ösiland haben wir eine duale akademie das ist quasi eine kürzere und bessere bezahlte lehre für uni abbrecher und leute mit matura, da kann ich auswählen zwischen it-systemtechniker oder applikationsentwickler aber wenn dann wirds der systemtechniker glaub ich
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>>108229377
Eine Ausbildung zum Anwendungsentwickler ist heutzutage sowieso nichts mehr wert, brauchst Minimum einen Bachelor oder Master und Berufserfahrung in (Bindestrich-)Informatik. Dann lieber Systemintegrator weil dort ist der Jobmarkt noch ganz ok fürs erste.
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>>108229314
... you made me realize that that might be the reason for the obvious deep mediocrity of the people that visit this general, maybe even the board.

>>108229377
>>108229396
write English, you nazis
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>>108216690
I had a panic attack at work. It's over.
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>>108229273
I genuinely think it's the lesser evil. You could even try to simulate sunlight with one of those sunlight lamps.

I hate the feeling of just sitting completely exhausted on the couch, ordering junk food and watching trash on netflix or something. Maybe others are built different and can make good decisions after a work day but I can't.
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>>108229039
Im doing the "Im an idiot, and i know im an idiot, so ill put it into something i know someone knows better"
IE i have my IRA which is mostly put into the VOO, and then a brokrage again that is mostly into the VTI, but i have like some 10-20% in specific companies like BA, And some energy companies for oil and uranium that are all doing pretty well
Consistently between my IRA and Brokerage its averaging about....14% yoy return?
I just hit like 120k between them, and im currently 34, and im also maxing my 401k as well.
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>>108229606
The last time I saw a guy have a panic attack was when I was waiting for my oral exam and the guy before he came out and crashed on the floor after presumably failing.
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Ngl my boss has been messaging me like this recently and it's starting to piss me off
>Hi Anon
>?
>Did you do this?
>uh X?
>no Y
>yup it's done
>no response
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>>108229832
He's just got the tism.
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>>108228332
Jannie’s are suppressing because separate thread is rapidly becoming redundant
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Everyone on 4chan is unemployed. Your mom is lying to you and it's all fake.
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>>108218409
You have to work harder being a small business owner, and you lose money if you take a vacation.
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>interview this week for new job
>same exact shit I do in my current job
>imposter syndrome creeping in
I'm too retarded for interviews
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My org forces me to have too many meetings where I just sit and listen to people slowly blab out their thoughts. I don't understand why this happens, nearly everything can be handled over slack.

I hope the AI replaces me soon, so I can have full control over my time.
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>>108230187
I took the "can I call you?/can we have a meeting about <X>" pill and it made my working life 10 times easier. I used to be autistic about writing shit but actually grabbing a hold of the guy you need is just so much more practical
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>>108216703
Construction worker, carpenter, electrician, plumber, HVAC technician, welder, metal fabricator, mechanic, auto technician, warehouse worker, forklift operator, factory worker, machinist, heavy equipment operator, oil rig worker, miner, landscaper, arborist, logger, firefighter, paramedic, utility worker, railroad worker, dock worker, shipyard worker, road maintenance worker, demolition worker, roofing contractor, pest control technician, agricultural worker, farmhand, waste management worker, recycling plant worker, airport ground crew, security officer, event rigging crew

AI cant replace that jobs
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>>108230270
>AI cant replace that jobs
Robotics is progressing rapidly in 2026.
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>>108230270
LOL some of them are getting replaced as we speak. First thing to go will be bricklaying, framing, concrete, and roofing. Easiest most tedious shit gets robotics first. It's you don't hear about master welders in a factory setting unless it's some niche aircraft level work.

The other skilled trades will last longer.
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>>108221040
>Kanban board
soul
>daily standup
humiliation ritual
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>>108227153
This. It was a bit depressing to realize after switching from research where people actually know things, and usually much more than you do.
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>>108229250
>avoid slobby and brainfog exhaustion
just don't work hard bro... really just pretend to do things, everyone does it
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>>108230262
>grabbing a hold of the guy you need is just so much more practical
And much better from the employee POV because you leave no written shit laying around that'd make you more replaceable.
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>>108230262
Want another tip? Message your coworkers with just "Hi" the time it takes them reply is blocked ticket time.
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>>108230262
>>108230401
Saars, I....
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>general keeps getting made by shitposters with no proper OP
>threads keep getting filled with low effort shitposts and flagrant trolling
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>>108223641
There's no such thing as a harmless P1.
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>>108230262
We have daily agile ceremonies, that's what feels like a soul sucking time waster. It's rare that I have something to ask a colleague that can't be resolved in a single reply.
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>>108230593
Quick call?
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>>108230270
lol you wish, its not even made for this task btw
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>>108228060
wish $2k/mo was all I needed
I should move
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>>108228139
why are you getting a bachelor degree in CS if you're not going to get a career in CS? do you even know what computer science is anon?
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>>108230537
It was 80% CPU. No outage.
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>>108230618
the fuck is this brainrot
do zoomers really need to have 2 videos playing at the same time?
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>>108230509
you must be new here
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A recruiter contacted me out of the blue and I'm not really sure if I should entertain this. Looks legit and it's for a company that's based in the same city I'm in but the only problem is I'm reading the job description and glassdoor and the stuff I fucking hate about my job looks to also be there and I'm sorta "The devil known seems better than the devil unknown". Is it worth just hearing them out or just save the karma and go "Nah, I'm not currently looking but appreciate the reach out." That being said I don't really feel any drive in my current role but would getting my ass kicked in a new role really help? Don't know. That's why I'm asking.
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>>108230734
Then it's not a P1.
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>>108230755
No, shitposting subhuman. I've been here long enough to know /twg/ used to, and is supposed to, have a proper OP with relevant links and resources and discussion that isn't 6-8 shitposters replying to one guy's anecdote with "ur le sexist ur le incel get ownt chuddy".
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>>108230838
I didn't create the alert.
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>>108230734
>>108223641
YOu all have weird ass defintions of P1
Every company i hve been with their P1/2/3 have all been pretty consistent
P3: Customer inconvenience and non revenue impacting
Example: Things running slow, requests not processing but the system is not actually down

P2: Site down, revenue impacting, customer facing systems are down.
Example: Power outage at one site, a system is down due to network failure, site is non accessable, VM down,ect ect Pretty common honestly

P1: Full system outage, inaccessible in any form on customer side, revenue impacted This is shit like physical hardware is down, entire Hosts are out, Storage is out/down, security breaches, ect ect, pretty rare

P3s are usually handled via emails maybe a few calls
P2s are usually a bridge call with the required teams
P1s are multiple department heads and VPs getting involved to drag any team members into the call as needed.

You dont have minor P1s.
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>>108230885
Makes sense to me. But I didn't create the alert. I got dragged into a bridge cause people saw couchbase at 80% CPU. Literally turned off my process to solve it and that was it.
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How the FUCK do these people become "Senior Software Engineers"?
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>>108230917
>80% process
Oh i see basedou have morons.
This is the same shit that happens when people see high ram usage on a SQL server and im like....yeah....because thats what SQL does....
Or they will say shit like OMG there is high CPU of 80%+!!!!!
Yeah....means its doing shit, is anything actually impacted? No? Ok calm the fuck down.

>>108230936
peter principle.

Same reason im a Senior database enegineer, i got no fucking idea how i got here.

Then again, it is also staggering how little you need to actually do to be considered a good employee.
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>>108230378
brown people really are not human
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This general fucking sucks
Every thread is the same shit over and over again
>My job is terrible
>I hate indians
>I want to quit my job!!!
Don't you losers ever talk about anything positive? Any ideas, visions, interesting trends in the field? Or is it all just bitching and moaning nonstop?
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bot post >>108231087
do NOT feed the troll
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>>108230936
10 years in any career is a senior/mid level. They start throwing meme terms like architect and engineer at 15 year mark. Program manager/manager at 20 year mark.
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Am I the only one who is not on a high horse about AI? At least for web development, Claude Sonnet 4.5 is very competent at understanding a feature and creating snippets, functions, extractions, etc. If you take a minute to learn how it can be effectively integrated into your workflow, it's very handy.

Yes, it will probably decimate the field before long, but there's nothing we can do to stop that at this rate. If you've got a job, get the money while the getting's still good.
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>>108231165
Blow it out your ass, retard. My electric bill is double what it was last year just because a fucking datacenter got spun up in the area and everything has been made shittier and worse for no benefit.
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>>108231462
Work at the datacenter noob.
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>company pays me to sit 4 ASS certs
>get the last one
>laid off
What' was the play here?
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>>108228835
>2003 Honda accord until the day I die
based. I had been using a 2007 Toyota for over a decade and eventually the chassis corroded so much that the rear axle broke away from the chassis mid-drive. Not to the extent such that the floor of the trunk was dragging on the ground or anything, but the passenger side rear wheel left behind a trail of black rubber shredded cheese as i limped my way home
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>>108231462
At least engage with what I'm saying, fuckwit. This isn't about the cost of electricity (which I agree is a valid concern), but the use of AI as a development tool.
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Just got an email
We're apparently converting our entire product suite into a skill for an agent
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>>108228139
you need to switch asap. the market is extremely difficult even when you arent useless. tech in general is hypersaturated.
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if you're in school for tech, youre a fucking moron.

If you are currently working in tech, enjoy while it lasts. You'll be shitting it up in /utwg/ soon.
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>>108228458
they really dont. i saw more than a few graduate.
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@108231879
2 more weeks
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>>108231165
lmao @ the indian writing this shit thinking it is subtle. stop advertising here please.
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>>108231944
You have engineers and coders that are 100x way smarter and more skilled than you getting laid off but you think you're safe/ getting hired?

loving every laugh
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someone bake a new bread, please
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>>108228064
least retarded migger
first the video is of destiny sucking some dudes cock
second the dude in the video isnt even nick, thats just some shit that was made up to smear him
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I got a help desk job almost a year ago and feel like I've been fucking around too much.

Basically, I do this:
>go to work
>work on tickets
>don't take on any new responsibilities or challenge myself
>go home
>rot brain with youtube shorts all day
>sleep
>repeat

Chat, where do I go from here? I would like to progress in my career and take on new challenge and solve new problems. What should I be doing at work to do this? What should I do outside of work? Anything specific to study or learn? I really like scripting.

Thank you.
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>company bought by big india.
>layoffs incoming
>hold many keys
wat do wat say at work?
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>>108230947
> Then again, it is also staggering how little you need to actually do to be considered a good employee.

Depends on the company and the team. Once probation is up and you've got a contract and aren't in the US then yeah you've got a ticket to coast along. You should also coast along. If people become hostile to you, claim burnout and you fuck them even harder.
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back to jeetcoding to start interviewing again soon

>>108231087
my vision is never working for the government again
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BAKERS PLEASE

I CAN'T IM TOO NERVOUS I'LL FUCK IT UP
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>>108232370
>I would like to progress in my career and take on new challenge and solve new problems
you could get a certification
or you could just read random blogposts or watch videos on youtube from conferences and stuff and try to clone the stuff by yourself.
or build something useful for yourself and learn a thing or two in the process
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>>108231765
This is gonna be so fucking funny when they inevitably turn off those data centers.
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Claude Code/Windsurf has hit my company, we have full unlimited access to all of the models and unlimited tokens. I just give it my jira ticket and it does it. I had an edge on this team at the start being the only person familiar with the programming language. I used to be the "go-to guy", but now they can just ask Claude or Gemini. I'm fucking depressed anons. I don't have to think anymore. All of the joy I had at my job is gone. I called in sick today because I couldn't get myself to get out of bed. It feels so fucking over. Someone please help me, how do I cope.
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we need a baker. pls

>>108232967
what language?
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>>108232986
>what language?
You're gonna laugh but: Go. My manager made it a big deal and had me give presentations on concurrency since I was apparently the only person who could do it. I helped everyone get up to speed and did countless code reviews to prevent people trying to shove Java patterns into Go. I feel like I'm just gonna get thrown out like trash now. They don't need me. I'm still a mid-level dev but it feels like I'm already behind.
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