Discussion of Free and Open Source Diffusion ModelsPrev: >>108220388https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide>UIComfyUI: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUISwarmUI: https://github.com/mcmonkeyprojects/SwarmUIre/Forge/Classic/Neo: https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide#reforgeclassicneoSD.Next: https://github.com/vladmandic/sdnextWan2GP: https://github.com/deepbeepmeep/Wan2GP>Checkpoints, LoRAs, Upscalers, & Workflowshttps://civitai.comhttps://civitaiarchive.com/https://openmodeldb.infohttps://openart.ai/workflows>Tuninghttps://github.com/spacepxl/demystifying-sd-finetuninghttps://github.com/ostris/ai-toolkithttps://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainerhttps://github.com/kohya-ss/musubi-tunerhttps://github.com/tdrussell/diffusion-pipe>Zhttps://huggingface.co/Tongyi-MAI/Z-Imagehttps://huggingface.co/Tongyi-MAI/Z-Image-Turbo>Animahttps://huggingface.co/circlestone-labs/Animahttps://thetacursed.github.io/Anima-Style-Explorer/>Kleinhttps://huggingface.co/collections/black-forest-labs/flux2>LTX-2https://huggingface.co/Lightricks/LTX-2>Wanhttps://github.com/Wan-Video/Wan2.2>Chromahttps://huggingface.co/lodestones/Chroma1-Basehttps://rentry.org/mvu52t46>Illustrioushttps://rentry.org/comfyui_guide_1girlhttps://tagexplorer.github.io/>MiscLocal Model Meta: https://rentry.org/localmodelsmetaShare Metadata: https://catbox.moe | https://litterbox.catbox.moe/GPU Benchmarks: https://chimolog.co/bto-gpu-stable-diffusion-specs/Img2Prompt: https://huggingface.co/spaces/fancyfeast/joy-caption-beta-oneTxt2Img Plugin: https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusionArchive: https://rentry.org/sdg-linkCollage: https://rentry.org/ldgcollage>Neighbors>>>/aco/csdg>>>/b/degen>>>/r/realistic+parody>>>/gif/vdg>>>/d/ddg>>>/e/edg>>>/h/hdg>>>/trash/slop>>>/vt/vtai>>>/u/udg>Local Text>>>/g/lmg>Maintain Thread Qualityhttps://rentry.org/debohttps://rentry.org/animanon
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>>108223381thanks for the bake anon
/dedgen/
>>>/r/20344542We are treated as gods on other boards.
/benin/
>>108223526So... anything cool happening in the image gen space right now?
>>108223583Most models got native NAG support in ComfyUI
>>108223381Been out for about a month, what ultimately won out, Z or Klein? Any actual finetunes out for either of these?
>>108223606Klein for editing and Z for regular text to image. Different usecases.
I like Qwen 2511 for edits
>>108223606>what ultimately won out, Z or Klein?neither, seems like they're hard to train, and klein 4b looks like a meme but no one want to deal with the gay licence of klein 9b, at this point our only cope is Qwen Image 2.0 or Z-image edit
SubtleShader is now a traitor. he's selling his new loras now, wtf. he didn't even become popular by starting from scratch, but by merging other models...
>>108223606Klein9B is an edit modelZ is a general model. Can't really compare who won yet. I personally think Z has higher quality realism, so Z image edit should be better, but we'll see.
>>108223595apparently the native NAG doesn't work with klein yet
ultra cozy
>>108223680well, time to pay up.
been out of it for a bit ladswhats the metagame nowadays? i'm still using reforge and wainsfwillustrious_v140. is comfy really going to give me better results?heard some of the latest illu models have issues with using controlnet, is this true?
>>108223583I'm still riding the high of Anima, Z, and Klein Edit
>>108223884>whats the metagame nowadays?waiting for anima and hoping no major fuckups happen
>>108223896*apache2 anima*the tdrussell one is kind of shit
>>108223884wai nsfw was updated to v16. most people are still using that for local anime gens.>is comfy really going to give me better results?it's just a ui and thus cannot give 'better' results. it does however offer more flexibility, automation and general tools.>heard some of the latest illu models have issues with using controlnet, is this true?not that i've heard of.
>>108223921>most people are still using that for local anime gens.jesus imagine if that were true. how horrible. and i mean most people here not on jeetivai or whatever
>>108223680lol he's selling a checkpoint 'subscription'. $12.50 a month
>>108223884For anime? Anima. https://huggingface.co/circlestone-labs/Anima
>>108223935Anons here use whatever is new because most are bleeding edge users. Go to any other general and you'll see 99.9% are not using Anima. Most don't even know what that is.
>>108223964>Go to any other generalthat was referenced in the "whatever" part of "jeetivai or whatever". anon should pay no mind to what the masses of lagging sloppa sheep use desu
>>108223920>sloptuner: I only train on permissively licensed models so that I can lock down my finetune with a restrictive license and monetize it>anima dev: let me train this permissively licensed model and release it with a noncommercial license so I can monetize it>sloptuner: NOOOOO YOU CAN'T DO THAT IT HAS TO BE APACHE 2 SO I CAN MAKE MONEY WITH MY OWN FINETUNESthis is pure hypocrisy if nothing else
>>108223963I just started using this. How are you genning at a higher resolution? I get kind of weird gens when I try bumping it that high.
>>108223921>>108223896>>108223963excellent thanks bros
>>108224021https://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples/2_pass_txt2img/
>>108223964I rarely even see anima gens here. If they do exist, I can't tell the difference between them and XL.You'd figure anons would be posting gens that show how 'superior' anima is such as multiple 1girls, ease of regional prompting and so on, but no, it's the same generic 1girl stupid shit.
>>108224010so who is going to finetroon commercial anima? Isn't tdrussell just as grifty as the grift finetrooners? I don't get it
At least half of the collage is Anima
>>108224105ranfaggot made the collage so it's a moot point
retard here, been using gemini to generate images using several other reference images. i like nano banana bc i can input 2-5 images of a subject and it can generate a very accurate model of it, but can't do any nsfw shit. is there a comfy alternative that can do the same? or do i have to train a LoRA?
go work on your wrapper lilbro
>>108224093as long as a local model hasn't been close to Midjourney's sovl I won't consider anime local to be solvedhttps://www.tiktok.com/@tcgbrugialdi/photo/7415973084705918240
>>108224122You've done him
>>108224122put the fries in the bag unc
>>108224104>Isn't tdrussell just as grifty as the grift finetrooners?I mean I guess, if you squint a bit. But there is a difference between someone trying to monetize a huge finetune vs sloppers who want to sell their loras.What I don't understand is all the people saying shit like "anima is doa, nobody will finetune it if they can't make money off it". But they don't extend that same logic to the person actually training anima, who is apparently expected to just give everything away for free with no compensation.And the thing I REALLY don't fucking understand is why nobody complains that Noob also has a noncommercial license.
>>108224149It's just the fag trying to drum up hype for his "anima but apache2" model that isn't even off the ground yet. You can ignore those posts.
>>108224149the answer is actually quite simple
me and who?
>>108224161Imagine fudding a local model.
tried to do 2girl boxing on base anima
>>108224192how well does anima handle 2 character loras in the same image interacting?
>>108224192ZiB as base model, Anima as hiresfix at 0.4~5. You can use the same prompt if you want and add the artist and copyrighted characters.Anima in img2img understands any style of character, whether realistic or anime itself, and translates them well into anime. The background will be murdered but at least the characters will have better composition.
One thing i would really like to see for Noob models is to have is some kind of style controlnet style IP adapter. You can think of it like Vibe Transfer NAI has. It’s used for style adjustments, not affecting the composition. Similar thing was created for Pony based models https://github.com/gustproof/sd-webui-forge-style-components
>>108223920Your vaporware doesn't exist and never will.>>108224192Funny, I'm doing the same thing right now except het. Results aren't great, but it might be a skill issue.
>>108224192>same hair style>same hair length>same eye type>same bangs>same breast sizehmm
>>108224305>the girl on the left has short black hair and small breasts, the girl on the right has long blonde hair and large breastsproblem solved
>>108224332i know that. im saying anon was too lazy to make them distinct.
>>108224229>ZiB as base model, Anima as hiresfixUnless you have a chad card or use shitquants Comfy's memleaks won't let you do this.
girl vs boy boxing in base anima
>>108224369?gen first image with ZIBunload modeli2i image with anima. actually, anima is so small that you can probably keep both of them loaded.
>>108224369I have only 12gb vramlet ZiB at fp8 or gguf and comfy does that very fast and this >>108224390 i have both of them loaded.
>>108224390>loading and unloading models every time you wanna gen id rather kill myself but im happy it works for you
what about using anima to build the base composition, then XL to refine? you only need anima for the prompt adherence. XL can fill in the gaps>>108224432i don't need to do that because i have 32gb vram and 128gb ram.
>>108224439The details would get destroyed by XLs poopoo VAE but I'm sure some anons do it already and don't care
>>108224454then just do a third pass with anima as a final refiner to fill in the lost details lol
base anima boxing with different characters
I still like Noob for complex lighting effects, stuff like depth of field, and really dark pictures. I have no doubt Anima will get better for "high aesthetics" type works with more training. Shit, just having the Qwen text encoder instead of clip, which every shitmix and shitmerge use, should make it superior in the long run.
>>108224475Does this work with multiple character loras. Please demonstrate.
>>108224482It doesn't work properly since the characters become mixed
>>108224490So Anima did not solve the same issue SDXL has. What a pity.
>>108224439>Anima2SDXLHaven't used pure SDXL in a while, it's hit or miss, maybe 70% success. Watch the denoise amount though, SDXL rounds out, and simplifies facial expressions and poses, makes characters look like cake toppers. I do 0.4~0.5 denoise also and usually 3 gens at 0.4, 0.45, and 0.5. Sometimes gotta add tags becausd Anima added cool thongs that SDXL doesn't recognize.Actually found ZiB2Anima trying to use Anima as a translator of middleman for SDXL since ZiB2SDXL was too destructive.
https://unicornanrocinu.github.io/LUVE_web/Babe wake up, an open source video will be released soonTM
>>108224514>Haven't used pure SDXL in a whileWhen I say SDXL I mean waiNSFW or NoobAI shitmix. No one uses raw SDXL anymore.
>>108224506That's not an Anima issue it's a lora issue. The lora is only trained on a single character, it basically forces everyone to be that character.Proper use of regularization images or multi-character loras would probably work. Certainly it would work better on Anima than any SDXL model.
I wonder how many were there to witness the birth of the concept of a "refiner" and how its original implementation, by anon, was completely incorrect i.e. it's not supposed to be a regular i2i pass. And also how it was just a cope afterthought by SAI to "fix" SDXL. I imagine not many remember this.
>>108224536They never used it correctly to begin with. Refiner is basically one of the best ways to merge models outside of actually mixing them but so many anons failed at it and couldn't understand it.
>>108224515>comparing to wan 2.1 in the year of the lord 2026kek
>>108224110yes
>>108224524Me too, for that type of task WAI is ironically better at img2img gens from ZiB or Anima in my experience speaking of the automated production of txf2img->hiresfix->detailer. Not manual inpainting or thing like that. With dedicated inpainting and all that maybe Noob would've worked better
>>108224543Well, eventually anon figured out the correct way to do it but then realized the original XL refiner was mostly pointless and largely slopped the output. I suspect that the reason why no one knows how to do it today is because that original refiner fell out of fashion quickly.
Lol, Hasaku dev is training Klein 4b for anime. Does it have a better license than Anima? At least Klein with 4b, VAE and text encoder are better than Anima. I don't mind shitmergers starting to use Klein 4b as the next SDXL.
Have you guys tried BitDance?https://github.com/shallowdream204/BitDance
>>108224642>Lol, Hasaku dev is training Klein 4b for anime. Does it have a better license than Anima?Klein 4b has the goated Apache 2.0 licence
>>108224647>14Bkek
>>108224642Why Klein and not ZIB?
>>108224660I mean, Qwen Image had its moments and it's a 20b model
>spent the entire day removing clothes off loli with klein9b
>>108224506Anima is cool but it's slower and seems to have limited learning capacity. It's a showcase for tdrusel's dataset overall, but it's technologically inferior to K4B even though Anima took way longer and cost more to train.
>>108224711What the fuck are you even saying?You're just talking out your ass because you're lonely today?Why would a more advance model with more parts be the same as XL?Compared to other major models it's still light
>>108224711the dataset is anemic, the caption strat is retarded and the encoder is laughably dumb. The entire model needs to be redone
>>108224727jesus christ why are you so defensive? calm down tdrussell.
>>108224663ZiB is unstable and the character consistency is garbage. Even our pedigree /ldg/ lora makers haven't managed to pull a decent character lora from it yet.
>>108224743You seem upset
>>108224750>Even our pedigree /ldg/ lora makers haven't managed to pull a decent character lora from it yet.I have, but it's a person lora, not anime. I guess Z models are just more tuned for realism.
>>108224751I think tdrussell is if he's crashing out at anons for valid criticism
>>108224727Sorry Comfy, you wasted 1million in a literally who
oooiii i have less than 100gb on all my nvme's. space is running out and a new 4tb nvme is like $600fuuuuuuuuck
>>108224763>>108224766The only faggot seething over Anima is a jilted dev that got left behind. You really do spend all your free time crying like a zesty lil bitch.
>>108224769I don't see anyone 'seething' over Anima. Just anons making basic comments about the model. "WAT THE FUCK ARE YOU SAYING ABOUT ANIMA??"Now that's screeching.
all those anons last thread talking about ldg being dead or whatever when this is the only place devs both based and fag alike can shit post at each other with anonymity
>>108224785You say the same copes and seethes on other platforms. Nobody is going to give you money loser faggot
>>108224766The Comfy grant is still up for grabs.
>>108224663https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1r8oed1/why_are_people_complaining_about_zimage_base/?share_id=3O2BgXnz1jnrfBOtR0oLB&utm_name=androidcss
>>108224766Illustrious 3.5 only needs 350k in funding. Why didn't he give them money?
Zeta Flop!
>>108224506loras are outdated copium. local research has stagnated. zero developments in this field since sd1.5, just bloated underperforming models that lack half the features of sdxl (prompt weighting).
>Schizo dooming again because his life is hell>Seething because comfy won't give him money to fail at another projectWas comfy giving you a job that you squandered not enough?
is qwen image edit the best image edit model out there right now?
>>108224766This. Also tdrusell isn't part of any shitmerger cabal or NoobAI friend group, so obviously shitmergers are gonna ignore his model...
>>108224836Loras will never be outdated. A big general model will never be able to capture every character people want, and using 1-2 reference images is not enough for any model to fully grasp them. It won't understand their unique facial expressions, posture, and so on.
y-you want to be a part of the cabal you call shit?
>Dooming when the model is half way done>But please don't treat my shit tier UI that's been in development longer than this model has been training because I deserve the grace I won't give otherslol faggot
>>108224857>using 1-2 reference images is not enough for any model to fully grasp them.Nano Banana Pro is close desu
>>108224872Nah.
>>108224832i wish it had a longer name like zeta the chinks never told us what z stood for
