Ban computers from all non-IT classrooms
>>108224624>technology is ruining forced indoctrinationBased
>>108224624Seems like his primary problem was constant internet access, not the computers themselves.
>>108224655>Yes kids watching porn and YouTube in class instead of learning how to read and do math is good>t. retard>>108226041Good thing we gave them computers whose only function is to access the internet with effectively no further capabilities
>>108226239What about leaving the kids at home with their parents learning what they teach them instead of making this a state responsibility?
>>108224624the latest generation being the first minority white generation is completely unrelated
>>108226274What if there were organisations that could teach groups of children at once and the local people could pool together money to fund it?
>>108226274>homeschooling LOL the biggest fucking meme possible
>>108226280Voluntarily, sure
Computer labs were more than fine. I don't see a reason to replace them. All you need is a couple spare rooms and 60 e-waste office PCs students can go to a few hours a week. I had plenty of time in school to use computers and I never needed a 24/7 assigned personal laptop for it.
>>108224624Doesnt explain how most of these kids are already underdevelopped when they first come to school cause their parents gave them unsupervised tablet access whenever they made a move or soundDoesnt explain how its not all kids (the difference is lazy parents)Before lazy parents werent that big of an issue cause the world itself is filled with shit that will develop you but if your whole perspective from those formative years is solely based on unsupervised internet accessFor us it was funny at 12, for the new gens its gonna be dopamine melting at age 2
>>108224655The forced indoctrination is the only reason you get to live long
>>108224624>Students used shared Google Docs to plan crimesee now, just demonstrate a practical use case to the aspiring urban yoof and throw 'em in at the deep end, they swim like fishies.
>>108226320How do pushing dropouts into staying in school, being a hassle for people who wants to study, along with creating an ambient where what the teacher says has no consequences in the attendance or participation, improves technology and medicine?
>>108224624I don't really understand what they were thinking. Millennials grew up with textbooks and use computers just fine. Now it's much harder for a parent to help a kid with homework because there's no textbook they can read from. It's just notes from class that the teacher might not have even uploaded that day.
>>108224624Well, this happens when schools do not limit internet access to only certain educational content, such as Wikipedia Zero
>>108226304trvke
>>108226304>I never needed a 24/7 assigned personal laptop for it.yeah, you cant shove progress back in a can - devices def. reduce the cost of textbooks and sheeit, the publishing of which was yet another monopolistic racket. I'd like to see someone do a study in giving students just e-inks, which seems like a sensible halfway measure and would maybe cut out (some of) the misuse retardism.
>>108226305The content I see my brothers kids watching on their tablets depresses me, it's actually given me respect for children's TV programming.
>>108224655Empirical evidence suggests otherwise tho.
>>108226304>listening to music, goofing off and visiting rotten while the school janitor, who was also the IT guy, kept running in and out to catch kids playing f2p MMOs instead of workingMemories, memories.
>>108224624doomed fag nation
>>108224624>Introduce Computers to the curriculum>Keep teaching as before>Be surprised when it doesn't workTeachers being underpaid attracts mental retards to the job
>>108224624Reminder that other than raising a generation of absolute retards, this chromebook cancer also produced literally tons of ewaste.There was absolutely no legitimate reason to make old chromebooks obsolete if all they were going to be used to was writing documents and accessing the wikipedia. Google simply kept phasing them out to sell more garbage every year, because apparently Google needs to be funded by the US school districts.
>>108226320>you have to adhere to the castration ideology to live todaykids today are thoroughly brainwashed
>>108224624this is retardedi actively write shit down on paper when im learning a new thing despite having 2 computers and a tablet within arms reach because the likelihood ill remember it is like 10 times higher
AhahaImagine still being a teacher in the big 26
>>108226274The point of schooling is socialization, which you don't get from home schooling. You get way smarter kids with home schooling, because it's 1 on 1 and the amount of actual shit a kid has to learn to pass exams is comically small, but they are stunted for life because they don't learn how to interact with people and will always be weird.
>>108226696Why did you delete and repost thisdumb bot
>>108226386E-ink is expensive as shit. The nice thing about textbooks is that you could use them for multiple classes and multiple years, so even though it was 50 bucks a kid for the textbook, you only needed enough for one class, and it'd work until the texting was revised, which would be every few years. If you needed the kids to have a copy for homework, there was photocopying. Chomebooks were a cheaper option (per student, given it probably replaced 6 textbooks) that was far worse to actually use. Except they probably still had to pay for LICENSES for the fucking digital textbooks.
I don't know what people are complaining about. I like having no competition.>inb4 muh AI
sounds like most of the issues stem from the controls being trivial to circumvent, is it really that hard to stop some dumbass kids from being able to access youtube and such? The shared google docs thing is hardly a problem, students always found ways to sneakily communicate with each other during lessons>>108226744you'll change your mind when you'll have to enjoy your retirement in a nightmare-tier world
>>108226805Nah, I will have checked out long before that.
>>108226736>E-ink is expensive as shit.yeanah, artificially so, because one guppy patent troll. Even so, I'd still like to have seen *someone* doing a study, see if they resolved some of the more obvious issues, such as not exactly covert YouTube sessions. Which were pretty predictable with Chromebooks or similar.
>>108224624this generation is also less white than their parents, any study that doesn't control for race is just straight up lying.
>>108227125Nah, we just don't care.
The who technological literacy and digital native discourse is retarded, Gen X and Millenials we're good at computers despite not using them in class much. The reality is computers are fairly easy to use, an hour of tech lab class a day was fine for the majority of people. I didn't regularly use computers to complete assignments until college. The issue is older administrators are terrified of feeling left behind, and since they're shit at computers they mandated kids use them 100% of the time. But the second problem is that Chromebooks and iPads aren't computers, they don't actually teach you anything like how file systems work. It might as well be a black box for kids.Admin completely failed students and then blames the students for not magically behaving and knowing everything.
>>108226278I taught at a high school as worker shortage backfill for a year and yeah that is patently true, white kids are second in line for the loudest most obnoxious annoyances you will encounter, you can probably guess who's first although it's still mayos that are being replaced because 'precious browns' mentality still reigns supreme in JewSA.Other than that beaners are pretty chill and asians, even koreans octoroon looking ones, were quiet and studious
>>108224624> stories that didn’t happenGuarantee this man could not break the security policy on a kids Chromebook to save his lifeThey are awful computers though. The reason scores is unrelated. There’s an old adage: students brown, scores go down
>>108224624do they explain to kids that fifteen year old nissan zero downpayment with 10% interest rate is not a good idea
>>108227429Why? That would only hurt the economy.
>>108224624Ban computers in general. At this point, a solar flare that sends us back to the 1800s is the only thing that can save the human spirit.
>>108227265Latinos and east asians are quiet because they are still raised in authoritarian households where respecting authority figures becomes ingrained early. Whites have completely forgotten how to do parenting and the urban blacks never knew how.But don't worry, western society and technology are going to fuck up latino and asian parenting as well eventually and all kids will become equally as unbeareable.
>>108226338>not listening to Idris Elbangmi
>>108224624They're a distraction. I remember back in high school I would play Dota, CS or whatever in classes that had computers.
>>108224624Chromebooks in general were a mistake. If it were a normal laptop kids could at least learn how some of this tech works. Chromebooks hide everything behind walls and then parents act shocked when kids one-click-root it and proceed to never do any schoolwork again
>>108226041You need internet access to use the internet resources because every school, everywhere, fell for the "CONNECTED CLASSROOOOOOOOOOOOM" scam during covid. Your books are pdfs in a subscription service online that you can't download. The quizzes are on that same subscription service too.
>>108226274Based Burger, we've cut every other social program out because we made it remarkably shitty, so let's just collapse the final pillar of society that separates America from stone-bashing third world cavemen who never learn to read and whose job is robbing tourists at the airport.GeniusSchool is really communism when you think about it, it takes away from all the money we could give Israel and datacenters.
>>108226297Gigabased third world chad trying to collapse his betters
>>108226304I don't get the idea behind the Chromebooks in class anyway. At work, you're not allowed to just carry your chromebook with you in order to google any answer that comes up. You barely get to use your phone for that. And if you took your phone out whenever someone asked you what 2+2 equaled, you'd look like an absolute retard who shouldn't be in charge flipping burgers, much less any professional job.I hate sounding like "Old man yells at cloud" but if I had the same laptop I had at home when I was a kid at school, which was some second-hand hand-me-down thinkpad, I'd never get anything done. I'd be playing games 24/7. Which is what it sounds like is happening now.
>>108226386>yeah, you cant shove progress back in a canGiving students infinite distraction devices isn't "progress" no matter how you try to spin this as being "the future". There isn't a professional setting where you'd be allowed to take out a chromebook and jerk off all day
>>108227564how do they not know how to build an intranetthe fucking car wash I worked at had one
>>108227624They all signed up to "THE CLOOOUUUUUUD" in the late 10s and it all went downhill from there. An intranet doesn't help because none of these dumbfuck administrators know what that is, and all of the online resources host their servers with whatever the cheapest VPS services they can get away with, which means whitelisting won't work because they'll sometimes be located in bangladesh on the same rack the porn servers are on. We have so utterly failed education that it's nuts to compare it to just 10 years ago.
>>108224624https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd-_VDYit3U
>>108227869I've watched some of his other talks, he's an amazing speaker honestly. It's very rare for a scientist
>>108224624Well, he definitely made it into the list of "unfun bastards that need to be kneecapped with a rifle".
>>108226445Those faggots are way too much paid. They need less.
The digitalization was a life saver for me. I hate my own handwriting and I write at like half the speed compared to typing the same stuff.
>>108228393Same way, but it was best that I took calligraphy classes and got better hand-writing because you'll always have your hands.
>>108224624Just disable the internet? They can only play Solitaire for so long before getting bored and actually listening
>>108224624dude's name is Auronsome final fantasy motherfucker
>>108224624I swear that teachers are retarded.>kids use computers in unintended ways>my old way of making multiple choice questions doesn't work anymore>better get rid of computersHow about you test them in ways that allows the use of the computer without it trivializing the test? Give kids homework and exercises to do that allows the use of computers, but still requires them to do work to get the answers? >>108227606>At work, you're not allowed to just carry your chromebook with you in order to google any answer that comes up.Because you'd be given a better computer to use.
>>108227869He's saying that school is the reason for the Flynn effect. Does he know something other people in the field don't?The attention span thing is a meme. If you look into the research you find garbage:>Microsoft measured how long people spend on a website before clicking away>This amount of time has decreased, therefore attention spans are shrinkingor>We measured the time amount of time knowledge workers spend on composing an email (using a stopwatch)>They spend less time now than they did 20 years ago, therefore kids have worse attention spans now than in the past This is the kind of garbage you find. Even if you look deeper into meets analyses they refer you to studies that talk about attention spans as a throwaway line or refer you to some other study in a huge circlejerk.He's also conflating learning and cognitive development. They are absolutely not the same thing. It is very concerning if cognitive development itself is stalling. If it's just learning that's stalling then that's whatever because you can make up for it later in life. The idea that screens are the reason kids don't learn is wild though. How does he explain all the shit programmers do? Most of their job is learning new frameworks, codebases etc to then use them for something. How does he explain how people learn to play video games? When you start playing a difficult video game it's overwhelming, but you improve very quickly at it. Is that not learning? He speaks very well and I'm sure there's data to back up some of what he says, but I don't think it tells the entire story.
>>108227532Shhh, let the little Naggas learn.
>>108226274There are programs where fellow homeschoolers can meet up with each other. And homeschooled kids can sign up for the same community ran activities as every one else like sports, arts, bands, choirs, etc.Muh socially stunted is no argument.
>>108227489I'm OK without the human spirit. Fuck the human spirit.
>>108229629>Because you'd be given a better computer to use.Even if you're given an Alienware laptop, you'd be looked at as useless if all you did was ferry it from problem to problem. Part of being an employee anywhere is having some level of baseline knowledge to show some competency away from ChatGPT and Google.
>>108224624one of the other issues is that schools are getting grants to get tech and chromebooks and school admins are pocketing whatever is left over from the grant as a bonus
>>108227869the fuck was that reading comprehension test shit that was totally moms spaghetti knees weak arms are gravy>>108229707>The idea that screens are the reason kids don't learn is wild though. it isn't as much using a computer (a screen) but the inclusion of surrounding (cognitive, physical etc) effects when using the combined various intellectual technology involved, you know in our society our civilisation our grand restaurant. "learning" is just a single slice of the pizza puzzle that we're currently eating and tasting with our brain tongues.ill cut to the chase but i assume the main challenge to overcome with modern technology is that of distraction, as you simply can't learn or eat that well if you can't focus on a burger or cup of coffee before it gets cold.id agree with the guy that it's not the tech that's the problem but rather we eat it like silly half cooked unseasoned meatballs giving us stomach grumbles when we could be spicy optimised meatballs providing us with much needed busting nuts into mouths because nuts are delicious
Even if the kids might be "dumber" they're at least competent with the tools (the laptop), which is a big advantage throughout life, since you now know how to look things up.It's like being familiar with a calculator. Sure you can't do the math in your head, but you know how the tool works.I think I'd argue that being smart has become unnecessary. We just offload everything to the tools now. You don't need to know how to light a fire without a lighter.
>>108226239With so many means to earn money without leaving the house, new gen parents might as well just home school the kids.
>>108226398Yeah, Sesame Street is high art and intellectual compared to Cocomelon, but Cocomelon is the crap every kid is watching these days. I don't fear AI, I embrace it because it's going to replace all the programmers we won't be getting out of the next generation.
>>108226274Homeschooling is the reason why we have retards dying from drinking raw milk and spreading measles. It should be illegal if anything
>>108230622They don't have the brains to use the tools they have. I constantly have teens walking up to me with smart phone in hand asking me questions that could be answered with a simple google search. My father will look up answers to questions he has on the internet, but the modern generation doesn't even think to do that, they just ask the nearest person to hold their hand for them and google it for them.
>>108226708>they are stunted for lifeThere's 0 evidence of that, rather the opossite, even when kids join the public school system from being homeschooled they have 0 issues integrating and rather come better off than everyone, especially in psychological asessing.
>>108224624
>>108230622Chromebooks don't teach tech literacy through. Zoomers are less knowledgeable about computers than Millenials and Gen Alpha is even worse. Its worse than baby duck syndrome, if you talk to kids they have no idea how to do anything but watch YouTube and submit assignments.
>>108224624Then you've got influencers like asmongold advocating to teach 5 year olds about AI instead of math. We are fucked as a species.
>Ban computers
>>108231680>>108230622>>108230813kids don't know what file structures are or how to use excel/google sheets. they know how to use web browsers, apps and google sheets. chromebook kids are less tech savvy than the kids who had dedicated computer lab classes, because computer lab classes actually taught skills like how to make a graph in excel or how to do excel calculations. chromebook kids only know how to do walled garden app shit, which I guess is the goal considering companies are trying to sell cloud computing and shit
>>108231750yes, we need the man with 4 teeth and a messy room to tell us education policy.
I'll dumb this down for every one of you here who is younger than 40.I grew up around computers, just like these Zoomers did. But I grew up around a different kind of computer, a Windows 9x PC that I built myself. I took an interest in it and learned how it worked, how North and South Bridges worked, multipliers, VRMs, MOSFETs, I learned about the computer on a fundamental level and was encouraged by my father to do so, who also had an interest in it. We had dial-up internet and later DSL.I had Internet access when I was 10. I did the same shit, we played Delta Force and Unreal Tournament 1999 in between AutoCAD assignments in high school. I played on pogo.com back when that was a thing. I had a laptop in my senior year, a Pentium 3 Dell with Radeon graphics and two big ass batteries, I used it to take notes in class. Why am I not a complete retard?What has happened with every generation after mine, and some of the younger Millennials, is that they were systemically dumbed down by society, not by the technology they possessed, if I had a Chromebook and access to the Internet when I was young I would have never put that shit down I would have absorbed as much information as possible, just like I did with books and encyclopedias. I had a subscription to National Geographic when I was 12 and was reading at 2.5 years old. I had a library card at 3.The current generation was dumbed down because they were taught by their peers that you would be a nerd if you did the things I did, you would be bullied for it, and I was. They were dumbed down by corporations and by the financial elite, dumb people don't make smart financial decisions and they spend all their money. Dumb people vote in the interests of the megacorps and the true owners of this country, the government and society doesn't want smart intelligent people like me. They want retards who are easy to control.A dumbed down population is easier to control. Technology didn't do this, society did this.
>>108231898>>108228393>>108228522I should look into it, because all ed studies are retarded or internationally misdone there's a famous one about class size not mattering but their test class was like a nigh school class for adults who were trying to get a degree while they had a job, not children.but from what I understand there are studies that show the physical act of writing imprints into memory in a way that typing does not
>>108226041That's... true. I really enjoyed my computer and learned to program when I was a kid and had no internet for some years. Maybe that's the key.
>>108224655>>108224624>>108226041The two classes are homeschooled vs public schooled (IE: did your parents care about you) not wealthy vs poor.
My parents did home schooling a bit for my older siblings but stopped when they realized it made my older siblings noticably stupider.
Quitting teaching was the best thing I ever did
>>108232106same
>>108232039No, it's private school and private tutors vs the plebs. You are seriously naive if you think otherwise.
When I become dictator of the world, ALL media tech is banned for under 6 years old, 6-to-12 YOs are only allowed tech that is not connected to the internet, and one day a week the internet is turn off nation-wide to force everyone to detox.
>>108234088When you become dictator of the world will you summon all the wisest sages in the land to finally teach you proper grammar?
>>108234098turned*Forgive me.
>>108234098Why? It's much easier to put you in a cage.
>>108224624Ah modern discourse.>I have no argument but>PORN>CRIME>I mention them in the same paragraph as the thing I hate to create a vague association>Clearly, I win the discussionHe should be fired for being too stupid.
>Auron macintyreInto the trash it goes
>>108224624Feminism ruined it long before tech could. The root of all evil.
>>108227489Solar flares destroy transmission infra, it does nothing for devices that don’t have those (ie practically all devices you use)now you should kys for being as brainless as the gen alphas youre screeching about
>they need to learn computersCrazy how I learned computers while having almost no screens until the end of high school. Also no "computers" will be learned on a Chromebook
>>108224655God I hate you so much. “Reading is bad but porn and YouTube is totally not indoctrination” God I hope this is bait
Retarded teacher with retarded students. I remember half the class having their books on iPads because pirating the textbook was way cheaper and nobody played games during class because everyone wanted to learn.It's not the fault of technology. It's the fault of the teacher unable to tard wrangle his students and the education system being unable to convey to students why education matters.
>>108227429That would be very anti American.
>>108224655Damn jews forcing me to read
>>108230794We've raised a perfect generation to be manual workers in factories. All they need is a pair of earbuds and some podcasts, maybe a screen if they don't need to do any visual work.
i don't see the point in school other than it being a daycareonly a tiny percentage of people will get jobs that truly need advanced maths or whateverthose jobs are ever shrinking with outsourcing to india, insourcing with H-1Bs / guest workers, and automation / AI
>>108241106>maths good morning, saar!
>>108226304>that one ipad class in like 2011 where kids would put passcodes on the ipads to make the teacher flip his lid. Eventually there was a pile of bricked iPads that had unknown passcodes>the iMac lab where no one used the computers for anything other than taking pictures of themselves with the built-in webcams and playing jungle beats on Dilandau
>>108224624I have teachers and professors, always so entitled.
>>108230873musk disagrees
There's a nuance that need to be stressed.There's the unschooled who are like a very small percentage of people being home schooled, they are the retards you see the memes about.Then there's the 90%+ who always follow a curriculum and the later is the group that pushes the homeschool average (including the unschooled) way above the average of public schools.
>>108227429>just borrow from your future self
>>108241683>>108226708>>108230873>>108226274homeschooling, especially for the younger grades, is almost certainly better because it's 1 on 1 instruction and if you want your kid to socialize, every public school is required to allow home schooled kids to participate in school sports and home schooled kids can do rec sports. when you get to high school I think you're better off sending the kid to normal school or ideally a specialized magnet school, because he or she should be separated into the honors classes by that point and not have to be stuck in a class with violent retards. A lot of parents may not have the knowledge or resources to teach advanced science or math and it's also easier for the kid to get into college going from a highschool as opposed to a homeschool. plus you can still tutor the kid. The schooling stuff also builds up. teach the kid to read early and get him or hear to read early and it will snowball
>>108241701I fucking HATE how I'm currently unemployed. I have something like $10k debt plus my mortgage (though I have like $60K+ in a 401k), where as with a job I had zero debt outside of my mortgage
>>108224655holy FPBPlook at the seething goycattle itt
>>108226708and thats where you've got brainwashed. you don't need to socialize for anything.you learn a skill and apply for a job to use that skillyou shouldn't ever treat others on a level of a sentient being. for all you care, they're cattle until they proof themself to you, which you'll know by observation alone.
>>108227149into the oven you go, kike schlomo
>>108228393you need to be culled
>>108229942fuck you, you subhuman kike nigger
>>108230622they aren't more competent, you gullible retard
>>108241815>t. ipad kid
>>108224624society is evolving, language and proof of working are antiquated concepts QED
>>108241847>and then I woke up>and then we went to war with Iran>on the order of our betters
>>108224624>"this is the future, kids need to learn computers"Unironically based and correct-pilled. I took to computers at an early age and was pissed that I had to learn to write cursive instead of typing my assignments up because it was real fucking clear to me then what I'd actually be doing with my life.The problem is with people like this asshole who can't adapt the material to a modern era -- if a "fact" can be Googled then why the hell does it need taught? Should be teaching the implications of the fact to actually build upon knowledge rather than keep us in the rut we've been in.Bad security controls are an easy to fix administrative problem.
>>108226454This.
>>108241805Dunno m8, the data is unambigous.Even when you control for parent education and other variables.Average higher GPA even for those controls is higher than public school population.There are a billion companies that sell plans for parents to follow.The main benefit of being home schooled seems that you're force on how to learn properly regardless of your cognitive abilities.
>>108241944giving a kid a chrome book isn't teaching a kid how to use computers. they don't even know where files are stored>>108241962yeah I fucking said it was better because it's one on one and student paced instead of being one of 30 kids in a class room where the minority student is throwing a chair and screaming.the only think I wouldn't say is great is when the kids get to high school, I don't think most parents have the subject content knowledge some of the stem teachers have
>>108242005>giving a kid a chrome book isn't teaching a kid how to use computersThat's entirely my point that the curriculum needs to adapt. On the flipside, exposure does teach them at least something, if not basic filesystem concepts.
>>108242005>where the minority student is throwing a chair and screamingIf the other children were smart they'd be throwing chairs, too.
>>108242005Sorry I had the idea that I would imply it somehow, but I didn't write much towards that lol. I don't read every single word in posts, my brain reconstructs the point 90% accurately so I work with that, you did have one specific point there.Well in STEM specifically the results are identical average homeschooled vs average public education. (I've asked LLMs to search for this and I remember this right).Shows that both work and that public education might have a slight edge there given how inneficient it is overall.Public STEM education is alright.And no you won't be handicapped in STEM if you get homeschooled by a clueless parent, data also corroborates this, won't get ahead either.
>>108242022it teaches them how to find elsa and spiderman videos on youtube>>108242050>(I've asked LLMs to search for this and I remember this right).ok so you're making shit up because LLMs are never right about anything
>>108242075>it teaches them how to find elsa and spiderman videos on youtubeProbably a more valid skill than a lot of what's being taught. But I also said that's an easily solvable technical control problem. Did you even read anything in my post or are you illiterate despite your "analog" education?
>>108242075No? I'm citing from memory something that LLMs confirmed to be facutal.LLMs also cited peer reviewed papers.I knew you were autistic lmao, sensed it from all your posts.Wasted my time and you said nothing, you just talk past people and like to be a contrarian it seems.
>>108242094no, I just think you're a fucking idiot. kids are better off with one specific computer/tech class and for every other class to not be tech based. making kids write makes them remember better>>108242101>LLM>factualeverything an LLM writes is a lie, you braindead retard
>>108242111What makes you think anyone cares about what an autist has to say?
>>108242111>I just think you're a fucking idiotWell that's fair, because I know that you are.
>>108242124it's making you seethe>>108242132sure thing there, ipod kid
Technology isnt the problem, the problems are the people incharge of teaching kids how to use them that are the problem. Replace the marxist teachers union, making teaching salary tied to performance based metric, and you get the results you seek
>>108230762I honestly cannot believe the internet has been mainstream for 30 years and people still think they have to move to the city to get a job, and throw their poor worthless kids into daycare for $2,000 a month. There's no fixing stupid, apparently.
>>108224624Real problem is let the fucking government educate your children to be good goys.
>>108242190>it's making you seetheNo, but your post highlights your inability to read the emotions of others quite nicely.
>>108242190Insinuating I use Apple products is more insulting than calling me an idiot, much like calling you an autist probably makes your mother cry more than just calling you a run of the mill retard.
>>108226708>The point of schooling is socializationThe socialization
Why are there so many retards itt?
>>108242226>making teaching salary tied to performance based metric,that's fucking retarded. you know what the number 1 variable for teacher metrics is? it's the kids. if you give a teacher a class of honors kids, his or her metrics will be great. give them retard and it will be shit>>108242250you're asking an AI questions, you're feelings don't matter, retardo>>108242258you're an ipad kid retard. you were raised by elsa and spiderman you moron
>>108242310ipad kids
>>108242323>can only continue to repeat same phrases over and overLiterally dumber than current-gen LLMs
>>108242340you're dumber than an LLM, you get your info from one, retard
>>108242323>that's fucking retarded. you know what the number 1 variable for teacher metrics is? it's the kids. if you give a teacher a class of honors kids, his or her metrics will be great. give them retard and it will be shitIf kids cant be trained, then either the thousands years of wisdom on teaching is wrong or the teachers/schools are shit. And somehow its only in united states where kids aren't supposed to be taught. And kids cant be taught, then we need to eliminate the teaching profession entirely, in the US
>>108242363>no u!no u
>>108242310"If it stinks everywhere you go..."
>>108242374you are a fucking retard>pay is based on metric>give a teacher a nonhonors class>they instantly quit because the obongo update to NCLB means they can't kick out the asshole kids and all the rest of the kids are retarded and they spend the entire time dealing with the minorities throwing chairswhy would you teach anyone but honors students when you will get paid less to teach the shitheads?>>108242377did you ask chatgpt for that?
>>108242374>>108242403oh and also they fucking kick kids out of school in other countries. naziland, austria and I think like finland don't let the retards go to high school
>>108242323>you're feelings[Your] opinions don't matter, autist.
>>108242323>it's the kids. if you give a teacher a class of honors kids, his or her metrics will be great. give them retard and it will be shitNot the other anon but I half agree you there but I think the other anon's idea would be the teacher actually giving a damn about their job and trying to work with the retards 1 on 1 which isn't possible for a lot of schools and public schools. The real problem is the farm animal approach we've been doing for almost a century of packing hundred of kids, some of which from various shady backgrounds, in a tiny room and expecting them to learn and listen like expecting 1 person to run an entire factory by themselves. We know for a fact even actual retards learn better when its 1 on 1 and not 1 on 1,000. I remember talking with my old high school teachers and they would always mention teaching over 1,000 to 3,000 kids a year and I'm always amazed at how. That's assembly line numbers which pretty much how they treat kids. And this was long before teaching online was even a thing.
>>108242310The Jews told us that autists were people, and so we didn't put them in cages. Kind of an embarrassing mistake, but easily fixable.
>>108242451you are clearly gay and retarded, ipad kiddy ai faggot>>108242453>Not the other anon but I half agree you there but I think the other anon's idea would be the teacher actually giving a damn about their job and trying to work with the retards 1 on 1 you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.>1 on 1no one has the resources for this outside of like home schooled kids
>>108242511>you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.But you can definitely poison a batch of apples by placing 1 bad apple in a batch of 100 good apples which is what most schools have been doing but on a grander scale. Good kids are getting borderline PTSD from the shit niggers are doing in schools.
>>108242558fucking blame NCLB and the obongo add on to it. schools are doubling down on that shit too. california passed a law to make it harder to remove "willingly defiant" students from class and a bunch of states like california and NJ are trying to end tracking/leveling/honors classes in the name of desegregation
>>108242511>>108242451
>>108224624they should. then they'll have more time to move buildings.
>>108242570see>>108242511
>>108242586>>108242451
>>108241807Just get a job, retard.
>>108242101>something that LLMs confirmed to be facutalAnon... you were homeschooled, right?
>you need to go to public school because that's the only place peers exist for you to socialise with Do clubs not exist anymore? Sports, drama, kickboxing ect. There's also neighbors with kids your age and third places (parks, libraries) even if it's a case by case basis. The entire world might be turning into stroads and Walmarts but I personally still have a library in walking distance
>>108241944lel when I was 17 the school diagnosed me with "dysgraphia" so I bought an e-waste 1995 laptop and typed all my notes on it (while playing Sonic 3), even passed my leaving exams alone in a computer room. I was living in the future.You're right though, why would you be mad that kids are googling facts?
>>108224624I bet this person also thinks the department of education is a good institution.
>>108243353There is a cult of retards who's only claim to life is "being a better person" by interacting with the dregs of society.Wanting a nice school where you can learn without disruptive kids is anti-social apparently
>>108243412Hey, as long as the retards make your life more miserable, I'm game.
>>108224624The issue is the school system itself, having to learn so much useless shit that you will forget when you become an adult. Most of what you learn in school is completely useless, a waste of time.
>>108243386>You're right though, why would you be mad that kids are googling facts?I think the problem arises when they cant remember shit and have to Google everything every time, which is what we're seeing these days since their brains are so fried watching slop constantly.
>>108244509I hate this STEM-brained autistic engineering attitude. The same people who asked why they needed to take English and humanities classes in college if they're majoring in engineering. Autists have unironically destroyed tech, and are now actively trying to destroy society. If you look at historic mathematicians, scientists and inventors they were mostly well-rounded individuals interested in many academic areas. They didn't whine about non-STEM shit being useless. This is why I'm so glad STEAM is taking off, we need to force art down the throats of these autists and pop the STEM circlejerk.
>>108244639I wouldn't bother. The best you can do with autists is put them in cages for the rest of their lives.
>>108244639>>108244656>people just want to be left alone>this is ruining things for others
It's going to get worse before it gets better
>>108244702>people just want to be left aloneWell, no, they don't, which is the problem.
>>108244639An english class and a speech class is fine, but there is literally no reason for engineering and science majors in college to take sociology 1101 critical race studies and psychology 102 indoctrination edition. Forcing students to burn a year+ on humanities is only to line the pockets of university admins and to make those shitty humanities departments feel important. In some ways, tradies who spend two years grinding out their certificates are better off than the sludge universities put engineering and science majors through that can lead to drop outs.
>>108244742>1101 critical race studies and psychology 102 indoctrination editionOh yes. Just to make you mad you should be forced to sit through them.
>>108244738Most autists do just want to be left alone either by themselves or with other autists.Their output is mostly limited to their work in their field.To be offended by autists means you are easily offended from the few times you interact with them or see something wrong with their work.It's real easy to avoid autists, they want nothing more to avoid you but therein lies the issue me thinks
>>108244773>Their output is mostly limited to their work in their field.And that's the problem. Completely unusable garbage.
>>108244702None of these people want to be left alone, that's the problem. No sane, traditional society would tolerate people like Musk, Altman, Karp, Amodei and Schulman, who constantly say anti-social and anti-human things while advocating for the genocide of humanity in the pursuit of AGI/Singularity. Ideally all autists would be scribes, cloistered away in some monestary or synagogue, endlessly copying ancient scrolls. Autists can contribute to society but should never, ever be allowed political or economic power.
>>108244796"anti social" things such as we shouldn't have bullshit jobs, have UBI and reproduce.
>>108244796>Musk, Altman>being pro-natalist is anti-humanWe got a live one boys
>>108244850Musk literally called humans the "bootloaders" to AGI, he only cares about humans in order to bring about the Singularity as fast as possible. Its why he's so pro-H1b, he just wants infinite bodies to accelerate the advent of AI. It's the same Roko's Basilisk bullshit as everyone else.
>>108244909Isn't it sociable to want immigrants?
>>108241807>I have something like $10k debtJust stop buying stuff?
>>108243221no one is hiring, retard
>>108224655it's this. if they wanted to teach they wouldn't need to distribute the laptops. what they want is to spy on children and make sure none get off the hamster wheel
>>108243353>>108243412I'm not sure about clubs, but there are rec sports in most towns (though I think participation is down with zoom zooms) and public schools legally have to allow homeschooled kids onto school sports teams.wait I just googled it and it's apparently a state by state thing and people call those states Tim Teboq states. Apparently if you're in a place where a homeschooled kid is allowed to join the school sports team they are generally allowed to join other clubs and extra curricular activities
>>108226239>Yes kids watching porn and YouTube in class instead of learning how to read and do math is good>t. retardThey don't do that in school anyways. 90% of school is sitting there doing nothing after you finish your busywork. Only 10% is actual learning.
>>108226708Then let them go outside and play with other kids. You don't need a government building to do that.
>>108226274>leaving the kids at home with their parentsThat worked fine until jews pushed women into the workforce and halved everyone's salaries.Fix that first then you can talk about homeschooling being the norm again.
>>108245900You can be socialized no problem outside of school.People with nothing better about their lives will still claim your kids are unsocialized and weird because they weren't forced to interact with the lowest common denominator of their age group.
>>108243386>even passed my leaving exams alone in a computer room.good morning saar! what is it like being an esl indian?
>>108243386>>108244589>googling factskids can't do times tables anymore and while everyone seethes about muh rote memorization, getting rid of it sure has made kids dumber, not smarter or more enguaged>>108244639I like history, but humanities classes shouldn't be required in college. it's a fucking scam so schools can charge you more for tuition. I've heard different suggestions that would put colleges on the hook to lose money if people default on student loans and if they did that, you can bet your ass those gen ed requirements would go away quick
idk why anybody even bothers teaching kidspoor males will be sent to work camps or to die overseas, poor females will be whores, rich fucks will just have superintelligent robot butlers catering to their every desirelike why would you even bother educating 5 year olds? labor will be worthless in 10 years, much less 20
>>108244742>>108244768the retarded CRT class I had wasn't terrible since like 95% of it just became competitive racism. but we had to take it because blacks and browns protested in like the 70s and demanded the college make it a required class. Like the teacher was cool, but I could easily see that class becoming mega gay
>>108244850>>108244909>>108244916musk is extremely anti human and anti people having kids. he has yearly shitfits on twitter where he talks about wanting to import unlimited indians because he can pay them less and how much he hates American workers for not wanting to work 80 hours a week and wanting raises and good labor conditions
>>108244639>The same people who asked why they needed to take English and humanities classes in college if they're majoring in engineering.Do americans really?
>>108244953I, unfortunately, need to eat and to pay my electric bill
>>108246126>omg why does he want to treat cattle as cattle
>musk musk muskhe's like the Jew of pseuds nglI notice that if you are like under 130 you're obsessed with him and use Musk as an adjective.
>>108246133why do you thirdies constantly seethe about Americans?>>108246145eat shit, thirdie.>>108246147I'm 137. I only ever bring up musk or pay attention to him when it's about him wanting to import jeet slaves over humans
>>108226343>How do pushing dropouts into staying in schoolMost of those dropouts are a failure of the system and the teachers themselves, in my personal experience, most teachers don't give a single fuck if you're failing or behind, they continue as normal, don't answer your questions and kids then become endlessly behind, this is exacerbated by the fact that 99% of kids hate school and high school.If you want to shit on those people, at least try to put yourself on why a lot of young boys would rather not study, and why the system has failed them.And we're not even taking into account how classes and exams are done, since those usually left out most boys which are uncapable of remembering and vomiting hundreds of pages of text into a paper.
>>108246164>I'm 137Very nice, rare to encounter someone who's cognitively in my area.Not that I feel special or anything like that, just pointing out that it's kind of fucking rare and sometimes, in some situations, it does feel like it has a massive impact on the way people go with their topics. (Also a bit of funposting tbqh).I've noticed that anyone genuinely tested above 125 is interesting to be fair, with tha caveat of it actualy being so with high confidence.
>>108246217> most teachers don't give a single fuck if you're failing or behind, they continue as normal, don't answer your questionsYeah they should endlessly repeat elementary school material because shaneeqa didn’t bother to learn the alphabet instead of teaching people who aren’t 5 years behind> how classes and exams are done, since those usually left out most boys which are uncapable of remembering and vomiting hundreds of pages of text into a paper.?????what retard apologia is thatare you unironically dumber than women?
>>108242275>The socializationBasically all my years in school and high school, which in turn made me believe that some people don't deserve to continue being alive and the death penalty is deserved even for children.
>>108226274>just homeschool bro>just have an unqualified parent roleplay as a teacher in a world where you need two income sources or more to afford a home even if you rent>just create even more antisocial shutins who can't function in the real worldAmazing how every rightoid solution to a leftoid problem is not to actually fix the problem, but to create a completely different set of problems that are suddenly acceptable because the directionbrain says it's good.
>retarded migger makes retarded migger noises>/g/ discusses this like PlatoRetard board.
>>108246239>are you unironically dumber than women?>People have different ways of learning>Not being able to remember endless pages of theory makes you dumber than womenThe schooling system in the west is made by women for girls, there's absolutely no reason whatsoever exams should be like that since it's well known kids will forget everything a week later.I've been literally given several awards in my IT and programming degrees because my scores were that high, but in none of those classes I needed to remember countless pages of theory.Hell, in my last programming degree I literally didn't even study for a single programming exam.
>>108246235you know most IQ tests aren't accurate above 115 right? they are designed to diagnose retards and they don't work very well at finding what someone's IQ is if it's high because they weren't designed for that. also 137 isn't even that high, it's like 1 in 50 people and I'm pretty sure the range, especially on the over 115 end of the test is huge. like even on the retarded end of the test a 78 and an 82 are within range of each other and you would expect someone to score both of those numbers if given the test on different days>>108246217As a former teacher, why the fuck should I spend extra time on you when you are acting like a piece of shit and not trying and being a distraction and an asshole? Also the boys/girls thing is 100% just because girls are less annoying. evolutionarily they are better at understanding social cues. like if you look over at one she'll shut the fuck up. Where as the boys either don't notice or decide to do some retarded dominance play and escalate the situation. That's honestly probably why retard level classes are always like 90% male, the mid level is mostly girl and then in the honors classes it's like 50/50 but the boys on average are higher preforming, even if some of the girls might be the top performers there are more borderline honors girls in the class than borderline honors boys because the girls are less annoying
>>108246248this dumb snowflake got bullied lmao
>yeah I did really well on the uhhhh, programming exams>for my programming degree
>>108246275most towns have rec sports and clubs that kids can join regardless of if they are in school or not. Assuming the mom isn't retarded and the dad makes enough to afford a stay at home wife (super hard now a days). Home schooled kids probably do better for pk-8 since it's 1 on 1 instruction. as I pointed out earlier, I'd be concerned with the content areas when you get to high school, but assuming the mom can do algebra and isn't retarded I'd bet homeschooling has a better outcome due to 1 on 1 instruction. something a school can't do>>108246332kek, it really do be like that
>>108246301Not only they are accurate but you can keep calibrating them more and more, and then invent new questions and keep scoring people even above the standard treshold and correlate their scores with real life outcomes.This is not early 2000s internet anymore, we now know that the G-factor is just a psychological construct that is linked to actual brian efficiency, how big your neurons are, how efficient they consume energy and how efficient and long your dendrited are, that's why IQ scores go higher, it correlates with brain efficiency!There are also independent ways to test say the non-verbal component and all the scores correleate almost perfectly with each other, pointing towards the real G.There are now new tests which have 0.7 and higher correlation like inspection time.Maybe we can't understand each other because I'm actually north of 145 and my non verbal component is waaay ahead of that.I kind of see why you keep saying Musk, Musk, Musk now, you're genuinely a pseudo intellectual.
>>108246338The average woman doesn’t understand what a percentage is by the time she’s 30, and struggles to do basic division like 50/4. you would get better results leaving a kid with an ipad locked to khan academyt. work with many women
>>108227125>>108241847>ignore every other factor and focus only on what the epstein psyop board programmed you to thinkFunny how everyone focusing on culture war shit like race 24/7 has the lowest IQ in any comparison.
>>108246363>Not only they are accuratethey aren't. the type of IQ tests they give to kids in schools, which is what most IQ tests are, are not diagnostic tools for geniuses. they are diagnostic tools for retards/learning disabilitiesif you are basing your IQ test off an IQ test you took in school, it will not give you an accurate number above a certain threshold, I think it's around 115. because they aren't designed for that. you sound like you enjoy the smell of your own farts>>108246374my mom's an engineer. don't marry a retard
I remember me and the boys using Google Hangouts to chat with each otherWe even had a hentai chat.
Can't reply in good faith to mass quoters or contrarians because they never do back. They're just retarded structurally.
>>108246392>marrying a woman for anything except her lookslol
>>108246073I'm an FFL Frenchman from France
>>108246443idk if being algerian or moroccan is any better
>>108246301>As a former teacher, why the fuck should I spend extra time on you when you are acting like a piece of shit and not trying and being a distraction and an asshole?I hope you die a really extremely painful death.
>>108246472next time don't be a piece of shit, you retarded faggot. It's really that easy
>>108246382races are different in iq, immigrants are different races and have different average iq. current school generations have more immigrants and lower avg iq because of that. You cannot say "their cognitive performance is declining" without controlling for that, it's literally just useless data.
>>108246472Much like parenting, you ought to experience it to understand
>>108246640sure sounds like copebeaners are now pulling ahead of whites because beaners and asians are the only ones who still take their parents as authority. whites and niggers are raised almost entirely by ipads qnd neither can read nor white properly by the time they’re 10>b-butexceptionsthe majority of gen alpha whites are dumb as rocks
>>108224624Yeah it's definetly tech itself and not the greed of corporations that cause them to wage psychological warfare on the populace through tech.
>>108246677It has some truth to it.Actualy IQ data shows that blacks as a groups have a shitload of people inside them who genetically are stunted towards cognitive abilities, it's some freaky mutations that are too complex to reverse.But by our best of our abilities and looking at the data widely we know that blacks overall can have gifted people and are distributed normally outside of that sad reality.It's a cope to deny that but it's also a cope to be a die hard racist ignoring people just becase of their skin tone and some random phenotype shit.
>>108246684this is literally about evaluating a decline in cognitive ability in a group of people, that has also had a substantial demographic shift.It's just completely obvious if the demographic shift could account for some impact on the cognitive ability you need to control for that before saying "laptops" did it or something. this is really not very complicated.
>>108246680hahahaha how can phone addiction be realnigga just put the phone downjust close your eyes niggaahahaha
>>108246700i believe your analysis has merit, Flynn effect keeps growing in Romania and other nations with no demographic changes, actually a demographic exodus but in America it's been flipped
>>108246338>just pay to join some random club so your retarded, undereducated kid can get some socialization and all the parents can notice your kid is eating crayons and thinks the bible is anything but fiction
ok but why should i care that young people are retarded? it’s job security for me
>>108224624lol these used to get stolen and sold for drugs at my highschool, south fl btw
>>108246640>races are different so you should ignore every single other factor and only focus on race because RRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAGH GRUG ANGRY GRUG PROGRAMMING SAY TO CALL YOU TROON JEW SHILLThe curriculum and teaching are complete shit, but I'm sure it would totally be perfectly good if only white people were in the school and absolutely nothing else changed. Common core and no child left behind would suddenly be really really good. Retard.
>>108246424>>108246374So much for being tolerant.
>>108246733>tips fedoraschool clubs are free and homeschooled kids can attend them for free depending on the state/school districtDidn't you do rec sports when you were a kid? I did soccer, karate, basketball, hockey, baseball and boy scouts and my town had a like a summer day camp thing that the teens got paid to do so people didn't have to watch their kids during the day during the summer and I also did some weird bible day camp thing during the summer for some kind of different denomination of christian I wasn't and I went to 2 different space camps at local colleges.I went to public school, btw
>>108246392Who cares about your meme pseudo Raven matrices tests that you spend 2 hours explaining to kids?I took Mensa and a battery of all serious cognitive tests myself. I always come on 145+.Either you take this IQ shit seriously or you libtard shart and fart about it to be fair. I'm obviously incentivized to defend it but I only see merit to it from the brain efficiency angle. I don't think it has merit otherwise. If a kid learns how to learn he'll be above almost everyone else, sure a gifted brain knowing the same will push further but such is life, just gotta accept it.I'm a fan of educational frameworks and I know they work on people. Like pic related.
>>108246822>le hat memeYour hypothetical children will be retarded and screeching about DUH FIVE GEE RAYDEOH WAYUVUHS and DUH VACK-SEA-NATIONS while not knowing how to count to twenty.
>>108246751do you know what controlling for something means in a study?
>>108224624>BASED Jews making sure the population is dumbed down to make it easier to control I thought whites were superior?
>>108246841tips fedoria, retardo>>108246825cool, your mensa test and a quarter will get you a gumball. most people arent going out and taking mensa tests because who cares? if someone knows their iq, odds are it was administered in a school and those school IQ tests only really exist to diagnose kids as retards. I don't think they use them for GATE anymore. The only reason I know mine is because they IQ tested the entire grade at one point and I got put in GATE and I later saw my file that had my IQ test score and standardized test scores and shit when they were complaining about me not doing my homework in like the 8th grade, because they were pointing out how all my test scores were fine for GATE but I had to start doing my homework.They must have IQ tested us in the second grade or something. I know GATE started in the 3rd grade
>>108246888>euros: aging themselves into a continent wide depression, importing illiterate nafris because they can’t breed>mutts: the whole country is decayingchinese century, gweilo. taiwan (2027 or 2028) will be us' suez crisisstock up on solar panels, batteries (chinks produce 97% of them) and everything that has chips inside cause what you’ll have is all you’re getting for a while
>>108246893SPOILER: I'm drunk.>because who caresI was wondering if I was stupid, haha. So did cognitive tests, all IQ tests, and Mensa, close to my 30s. (What's there to lose) Glad that you're genuinely gifted either way. You make it seem small, but it isn't that small, statistically speaking.Also, recently suspected I had ADHD, so took the battery of novel tests, even from them, it correlates that my brain is fast.Big Five Personality: No ADHD temperament (High Cautiousness, 4% Neuroticism, 3% Impulsivity).ASRS Screener: No adult behavioral symptoms.WURS-25: No childhood history (Normal Range, "Very Unlikely ADHD").SART (13 mins): 100% sustained attention (0 misses). Commission errors were the result of an anticipatory speed-strategy, not neurological impulsivity.Stroop Task: Elite-level executive inhibition (60ms delay).^ did them while drunk as well, actually had a decade-long backlog of the big 5 testsEven edited most of those tests to stress my attention harder, nah, I have 0 issues.If it helps you, I'm a Romanian loser lol.My IQ is high, but I haven't used it for much. I'm not retarded cognitively, just lazy and burying my genuinely random genetic gifts.
>>108230873Every homeschooled person I've ever had in a class has been extremely socially stunted. I don't think you've actually spoken to homeschooling people.
>>108246932>I don't think you've actually spoken to homeschooling people.I speak with people who isolated themsleves in caves for decades and they come out fine.
>>108246239shut up retard>>108246878you absolutely do not
>>108246919GATE IQ is only like 98% percentile. it's 1 in 50. It's not like it's some magical thing where you're the smartest person ever. Generally, yes, I am smarter than the average person, but it's whatever. If you aren't doing anything what's the point in jerking off to an IQ test?
>>108246239good post>>108247005shut up, retard
>mean teachers didnt answer my retard questions during a lecture>no i couldnt possibly search for answers myself>jews keeping a wyte brotha down>im 150 iq btwi’d die of embarrassment if i posted this schlock
>>108247061>If you aren't doing anything what's the point in jerking off to an IQ test?I mean it means that all my fun posting and my lesiure time was qualitative. No big loss for me.So what I didn't feel value or a meaningful end in pursuing GDP growth at all costs... but yes I mean I see your point.It's hard to talk about these things if you do not immediately show up gains, being high income etc.I'm a confused Christian as well and my moral landscape is a constant battle so I'm still not sure what to do it in life.
How are people supposed to have children and raise their families if they have to work 996 hours while commuting to work since Musk and Trump abolished remote work? There's no industry more anti-humanity than tech, they see coders as cattle whose only purpose are to be sacrificed at the altar of AGI.
>>108246702What do you think made phones addicting?
>>108246893>le hat memeAmazing how that's the only retort yahweh worshipper slaves can ever come up with.>proceeds to shit on the very foundation of intelligence and educationPottery.
>>108224624>way less whites>way shitskins hmmmmm
>>108224624I think what they need are non-networked computers which the schoolies can load up with documents to cheat if they wantThat would teach them to pick and choose which documents are important, may be helpful and also how to find relevant information quicklyI think it's probably fucked but remember Google/Apple lobbied governmenta for this and the gay private equity kikes bought up a lot of edtech for years nowSchools spend so much on IT/infra/software and the results keep getting worse because the kids are short brown Mexicans and some mulattos
>>108247535>muh trumpliterally every leftist politician is anti work from home and pro 996. musk should be deported>>108247717I haven't gone to church in over a decade, you are a fedora tipper>shitting on the foundation of intelligence and educationIQ and IQ tests are fucking terrible at measuring the intelligence of smart people. see the unemployed romanian drunk jerking off to his own farts in this topic. it's not something people should give a shit about because it's not easily measurable or proven to be important above a certain threshold. You have some guy in here claiming to be in the 99.96th percentile and he doesn't have a job. And also it isn't super impressive anyway since it's just 1 in 2,000. That means 8 million people are as smart or are smarter than him. It's just fucking pointless masturbation to a test that literally only exists so we can diagnose people as retards.
I went to art school for 3D animation.I flunked out in the first semester because I didn't show up to my psychology literature and humanities classes because I was busy doing 3D animation.
>>108245626>living in the USYou're doing this to yourself.
>>108246893What's that about IQ tests in school, is that an American thing only? I've never heard of it elsewhere. Here in the civilized world, the only recognized IQ tests are those given by neuropsychologists and some other health professionals. Anything other than that is considered not better than a Facebook quiz.
>>108248421I'd rather live in the US than in the third world shithole you live in, thirdie.>>108248479idk what they do in your third world country but at least when I was in school they gave everyone an IQ test in one of the early grades. like 2nd or 3rd so they could diagnose kids as being retarded so they could put them in special ed. the school psychologists will also administer iq tests to older kids up though the end of high school to determine special ed eligibility. idk if they still do the GATE stuff now, but they created GATE in the late 80s I think and since everyone got IQ tested in like second grade so they could help the retards the top 2% of kids got put in GATE which is a gifted program. but again the whole point was to diagnose kids as being retarded, thirdie
>>108248479Yeah IQ tests have to be proctored by a psychologist here too. Usually studies like this are based on random sampling, which can be different degrees of random depending on what you're trying to prove. You should understand these concepts already.
>>108232039Based. Homeschool co-op is the way to go. Kids still socialize, just not with ((them))
>>108249580school psychologists personally administer IQ tests to suspected retards. the one they gave everyone was likely done for screening so the psychologists didn't need to individually check each and every kid for retardation
>>108250075damn you are one angry, gay and retarded thirdie
>>108247777>non-networked computersAs convenient of a solution as that would be, don't pretend there are things a computer does besides run a web browser. And shitty netbooks can barely do that.
>>108251316>don't pretend there are things a computer does besides run a web browser. And shitty netbooks can barely do that.Tons of protocols are non-interactive.
>>108224624If these schools were actually serious, they would be giving out the latest 13-inch iPad Pros with the Magic Keyboard (and trackpad), with at least 1 TB storage, instead of shitty Chromebooks.
>>108252299why?>>108251316>>108251342you could have nonnetwork word proessors. or, what would be ideal, is if schools had their own local only network so the kids could only access like google classroom
>>108226304yeah but then (((google))) can't monitor children
