it's over *brap*
>>108224720Most people only need 32gb which is like $300. What's the big deal? That's like 1/20 of a month's salary for most people.
I mean shit's looking grim but headlines like these are journo doomporn. Imagine the click bucks they make with these.
>>108224729IDF shill
>>108224773>Absolutely zero argumentsI accept your concessions.
Tell me why I should care when this works just fine and will continue to work for the next two decades.
>>108224720RAM CRISIS UNTIL 2036RAM CRISIS UNTIL 2040RAM CRISIS UNTIL 2155I just don't believe them. They're assuming this will grow by 1000% every year. They don't have proof it does. If this backsteps even a little, it's the end of this pyramid scheme.
>ragebait article>garbage thread>garbage OPGookmook needs to start permabanning shitposters.
It'll be over by the end of the year. This bubble will pop sooner rather than later.
>>108224891And because you """"cleverly"""" tried to predict it, it will never pop. The house ALWAYS wins. You never, ever beat the grift.
>>108224720Why can't we DIY our own ram and storage yet?
>>108224862>Gookmookhe's japanese, not korean
>>108224729Now that is a good goyim.
>>108224720i already have 32gb so im good for the next few decades
>>108224973Is it wrong? $300 and it will last you for literally a decade.
Why cant i have $10,000 a month >:(
>>108224905All the money in the world can't keep that bubble going for much longer.
>>108224891im hoping someone pops sam altman in the head sooner rather than later
>>108225101What if we print more money?
>>108224720freedom of the press really needs to be curtailed and journalists need to get publicly flogged. most problems in society can be traced back to unethical and dishonest behavior by journalists.
>>108225108Totally agree!
Reminder to ask a dumb question to the three main AIs and say thank you daily
>>108224729Not paying more for less, sorry.
>>108224720>they're trying to play RAM like a crypto coin
>>108224720That's just FUD. Give it two years and RAM will be dirt cheap again.
>>108225134This will cost them next to nothing. The expensive stuff is with the deep research thing.
i bought 64GB DDR4 for $200 a few months ago. debating if i should quad channel with my former 2 16GB stcks and run a 96GB setup or just sell them
>>108225172>goyim still thinks his money is worth as much as it was beforeMany such cases.
Isn't a chink brand selling DDR4 at near the old prices? Obviously that doesn't help with DDR5 but at least the overflow into the last gen should stop.
>>108225231It's bullshit. Chinks' data centers are just as ram hungry as the mutts.
>>108225223Depending on your motherboard, using all slots may result in lower clock speeds and higher latency. Obviously check what you're getting in something like Hwinfo. I'd sell.
>>108225252The issue with data centers is that you need to have something for them to do. There is no road to profitability that doesn't get the companies trying to monetize sued into the fucking dirt. Humanity should be cracking anti-aging tech and grasping biological immortality right now.
>>108225198>just two more years, trust the planlmao
>>108224720Good. Very good. I love this. Personal computing should be a privilege for rich chads like me. Poorfags should own nothing and learn to live with it. I love AI. I genuinely and sincerely, from the bottom of my heart, pray to the Claude gods that hardware never becomes cheaper ever again.
>>108224720I only build a new computer every ten years, and I just built one, so...
Good thing I already have 64GB of DDR5 RAM along with a 5090. I'm good until fucking 2040.
>IT'S OUT OF CONTROL PANIC BUY NOWWWW!!!Prices are already starting to drop in Europe.
>>108225620It's a healthy dip. Things never go straight up forever.
>>108224729>32gb which is like $300.What fantasy land do you live in? Why did you feel the need to embarrass yourself in public?
>>108225117Leskinen-san, I...
>>108225117someone needs to decide whether it is going to be id based sales or token based sales
>>108224905>It doesn't pop because people say it won't popThis shit is like saying nobody expected the Dot com bubble or the housing crisis. People were predicting a collapse around then too, they were drowned out because they weren't important people. You can find interviews the start of 2007 when housing was exploding in value that this would lead to the next great depression, and they were called crazy because they weren't making money. It's just the same thing here: they bury all the dissident voices so they can claim they were unaware and walk off with the money. there were researchers raising the alarm about AGI and the scaling fallacy back in 2020. This image is from 2022. The house only wins because this house can kick you our or kill you if you don't subsidize it when it loses like in 2008 or Covid.
>>108225620Could have said than in November too.
>>108225697Thus sayeth the retard
>>108226030>comparing a small, barely recordable blip vs a whole month of smooth curve
>>108224720I predict OpenAI will collapse along with the US economy before the end of the year but that won't solve the RAM crisis as Micro$oft will just buy up all OpenAI's contracts for its own datacenters for their upcoming AI model.I sure am glad I bought a new PC with 32gb DDR5 RAM in 2022.
>>108225117How are you going to sell RAM for lots of money if everyone bought all the physical silver which you need to manufacture the RAM with all the currency you printed?
>>108224837How do you play games?
>>108224729$500 actually
>>108224729>Most people only need 32gbFor now.
>>108226699Not that anon but I have a Sandy Bridge/860m/16Gb DDR3 and it does retro games and most indies just fine.Vidya has been a thing for half a century now. A 2014 platform can easily get you as far as a $60 chink handheld + every single production software.
>>108224720nigger stfu about ram already.>>108224729this>>108225172then don't. who's forcing you?
>>108224729Why do you need more than 32GB? You should be happy we even let you have 16GB. You can do everything you need on 8GB. Why I'd be happy to have 4GB if I was in your position.
>>108225697It's true for DDR4 and DDR5 is only marginally faster, you don't really need it for anything.
>>108229626I'm unironically literally using M1 macbook with 8 gigs of RAM since like start of 2021 up to present day with connected 5k external display. And my work laptop is M2 with 8 gigs.Unironically, web-browser / music / email / some messenger app / vscode / office / some basic picture editor does not need more than 8 gigs in 2026.inb4>muh swap muh dead ssdMy 512 gb ssd is at 20% TBW used after soon 5 years.
how are are ram price real? Just walk inside the store and steal that shit. If you run regularly the fat security guard won't catch you. In minecraft.
>>108229626oy vey! what do you need 2GB for??!! 1GB is enough for normal use!
>couldyawn
>>108224765Probably not enough to afford 64GB if we’re being honest.
>>108224720We can only hope faggots start to optimize their shit. Browsing a dozen tabs shouldn't use as much ram as a game.
>>108224720It's a 7 year cycle.They always think RAM prices will be high for years and year.But it's a 7 year cycle.
>>1082247201-2 years until it's back to normal.And by normal i mean a price that never goes down because moore's law is dead.
Tariffs will last until Trump is out of office, ram prices won't recover until then.Also the Tariffs are against America, not the other way around like they're trying to portray with the 'ai supply chain crisis'No datacenter would buy shitty ddr2-ddr3 ddr4 or non ECC ram.
>>108224720>>108224729I can't gen AI slop without at least 128 GB, which i am going to pick up in a few hours from a guy on facebook market place for $400.
>>108224720>"It's bad guys! Please buy now before it gets worse!"No, I'll be waiting for open AI to collapse and or their purchases to fall through.
>>108224720Just buy upcoming m5 ultra studio.
>Semiconductor exports soared +134% YoY, driven by AI and data center demand.>134%G-guy...? Should we be worried about this...?
>>108230169If it keeps steady no, they will just do more factories.The problem is that it's an unpredictable horse, and semi conductor factories got fucked by covid, so they will not fall for it again
>>108229626Slight rephrase
>>108224720You don't need ramJust write things down on paper
instead of a new pc I rather build a synth rack and make music, this goyflation might force incels to do something with their life instead of fapping to AI and gayming
>>108224953That's the joke, nigger.
>>108230652Even gaming can be improved by just playing older games instead of buying a 5090 just to play Games with PS3 gameplay, but slightly better graphics.
don't care. it sucks but it's worth it if companies can get us to agi by the early 2030s
>>108231066They won't.There will be a lot of good coming out of it, but only after everyone understand this tech is not 100% reliable.
>>108230431I've got a ream of paper right here, how do I plug it into the DIMM? If you have a youtube video that would help.
>>108231217Wire up a switch to each contact and just set the memory value you need currentlyUse your notes as a reference
>>108230675kys
>>108224720>didn't buy a 24GB GPU>didn't buy more Enterprise HDDs>didn't buy 4 or 8TB SSDs >CAUSE I DONT NEED EM RIGHT NOW AND THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING BETTER NEXT YEARThis reality is completely fucking broken.
You people don't get it. IBM is going to do away with von Neumann architecture entirely. We're going to see quantum neuromorphic PCs and iPhones and smart TVs in our lifetimes, there's no point in crying over RAM. Just hold out for another 30-50 years. You'll turn it on, and instead of using the internet it'll just predict what's on the internet with 100% accuracy. Like someone makes a youtube video or posts a comment or writes a song and it'll predict it perfectly. And nothing will change except ISPs might go out of business and people will cry about free will.
Is it bad that I feel all warm and cuddly looking at the 6600mhz 64GB RAM in my PC?
>>108224720i'm fine with this, if my computer gets zapped i'll be forced to read more or go outside, Touch grass and Have sex. it's a win-win for me.and then in 2036 we will instantiate the artificial god and delegate all labor to it and legislate a UBI and all live in utter peace and contentment for the rest of our lives.the future is glorious.
>>108232324>Laplace's demon? In MY smart television?
>>108232249You didn't but I did. My reality is not broken yet, you seem to be one step ahead.
>>108224720not happening.china is setting up production already and then they will out scale everyone again and you'll only ever see Chinese ram at a fraction of the cost.these companies are shooting themselves in the foot.
It won't. And it's not a crisis. It's just some tacit collusion (actual cartel).
>>108232896>china is setting up production alreadyMaybe this would have happened anyway because the USA doesn't like China. And when the USA doesn't like you, it tries to interrupt your access to everything. Maybe the 3 RAM manufacturers decided to rob their customers one last time?
>>108230195This is nothing like covid though. A large amount of people suddenly had the money and time to build a nice computer which isn't necessarily a one time thing but does has pull forward effects. Now everyone and their mum wants 1tb of ram to run their own personal ai and the incentive to do this grows every month as models get better (and bigger). They will basically never run out of demand from now until ai stagnates.
>>108233059Yep, but all could be one ASIC or new training technique away from ending the need.
are these AI companies even making a return or are they just sinking billions of dollars on data centers?
>>108233091It’s not about making a return, it’s about setting up an undefeatable surveillance/control system
>>108224720Ram crisis could exist till 3573 A.D.!!!>>108224729Bro wdym 16 sticks were 700 like 2 months ago
>>108232974nah they're differently reacting to the ai buyout, its just incompetence and greed on top on top, like usual.they think that america will ban Chinese stuff or asd Tarifs or whatever but after china rolls out their production most of the world is going to switch to them
>>108233293>undefeatable surveillance/control system>All you have to do to defeat it is not type your plans on your computer.Am I getting old or are zoomers really this retarded?
>>108230426KEK
why can't we just downscale ram usage universally with ai
>>108224720Lot of money to be made in RAMJust set up a factory bro
Okay hear me out: Cloud Computing
>>108235491Azure and AWS shart itself multiple times just last year.Ignoring the WEF agenda, it's fucking retarded even from the perspective of a goy.
>>108235511>Ignoring the WEF agendaaaannd you lost me
>>108232377mightwant to check your temps
>SSDs could have been equal with HDDs in cost per terabyte as early as this yearWHO DENIED ME MY DESTINYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
>>108235625>WHO DENIED MEsam altman & co
>>108226699Some people play games that aren't made by jeets in Unity.
>>108231066Even if they could, they wouldn't. And even if they did, it would not be used in a way that benefits you, and you likely won't even be allowed to use it yourself. How you're enjoying the current iterations of AI slop content, because that's the best people like you or I will ever be allowed to have.
>>108235916retarded populist/socialist fearmongering that has no basis in reality.
>>108224729You are correct, people only need 64gb which is like $600.
>>108235883Jeets use unreal engine
>>108235980>$600that's about 75 big macs to put it into relatable perspective
>>108235997that's 300 kg of quark, enough to satisfy a man's protein requirements for almost two years
>>108236061>2€/kg quarkwhere do you get it for that cheap?
>>108236061Last time I was in zee krautland I couldn't find it close to that cheap.
>still running on a v3 xeon and 64GB DDR4 ECC ram that cost me $45 per each 16GBfeels good i guess
>>108224720
>>108236692daughter yet hotdogged by big testo warriors anon?
>>108224720Maybe if they say it will last for decades one of the chip manufacturers will get their thumbs out of their asses and think its worth expanding their production lines
>>108236726no idea what the fuck niggerbabble you just wrote but keep it up anon
>>108224837>haha look at me I have an obsolete toaster that's shit and checks off all the checkboxes for ebin /g/ me-mes haha aren't I cool??!!?!Retard.>>108230652>>108231008Trolling retard.
>>108236730That's what the CHIPS Act was meant to encourage and do it in the US. Somehow it didn't work as planned.
IL be happy to say it's bc of ai
>>108236306>>108236632
>>108237073can you summarize this in as little words as possible for me? i'm interested but i don't want to read it all
>>108237138hot damn that's a good deal, whish I could find one nearly as good here in shitaly
>>108235997>$8 Dollar Big MacAnon ... I-I don't know what to say, I'm so sorry.
