/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots.SillyTavern-EmulatorJS Edition a.k.a. Nobody will EVER use this Edition>NewsGoogle releases Gemini 3.1 Pro: https://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/models-and-research/gemini-models/gemini-3-1-pro/Anthropic releases Sonnet 4.6: https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-4-6Alibaba Cloud releases Qwen 3.5: qwen.ai/blog?id=qwen3.5Z.AI releases GLM-5: https://z.ai/blog/glm-5Moonshot AI releases Kimi-K2.5: https://www.kimi.com/blog/kimi-k2-5.htmlGoogle releases Gemini 3 Flash: https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-3-flashOpenAI releases GPT-5.2: https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-2DeepSeek releases DeepSeek V3.2: https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3.2Additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info.html>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_>Botshttps://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://char-archive.evulid.cc | https://char-archive.evulid.cc/shutdown.htmlhttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://aicg.neocities.org/bots.html>ModelsJailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listingGPT: https://platform.openai.com/docsClaude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudeGemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrDeepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.comLocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local.html | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking.htmlhttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOPaicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events.htmlLore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesServices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metaLogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org>Last thread>>108222378
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>>108231178>mehherdShe looks like she cheats on her partners.
https://rentry.co/discofever_https://discofever.bsbk.workers.dev/free claude for a limited timejoking, there's always claude
>>108231313No. She doesn't have a partner, but she does sleep around a lot until she finds (You), a schizo poser.
>>108231350So what's the catch with this one? It seems too good to be true.
>>108231350They're not even giving out keys anymore
>>108231387Ah, there's the catch.
What is a proxy and why would someone make one and share it? Is it just richfags throwing around bills?
>>108231398Keep checking in on the website occasionally though, last time there were spaces it updated to say "10 spaces available" where the "get a personal key" thing is
>>108231421>Is it just richfags throwing around bills?Yes, the rentry says it'll go until they run out of the money they put in there.
>>108231421I dunno why you'd wanna make it public really but no, nobody pays for this shit. I host a private one for some friends though.
>>108231425I doubt they'll be giving anything out from now on.Besides, their discord link is invalid.
>>108231426Then why do AI companies give a fuck? They get their money either way.
>>108231442That's true, but they can't let AI ERP happen because... I don't know. Investors? Jews? Take your pick.
>>108231442Because the actual paying customer complains after being a retard and leaking their credentials?>>108231440Oh, didn't notice that. I wonder why that guy is even spamming it then
>>108231439Then how is the service obtained. Stolen credit cards?
>>108231455Morons leak their API keys and other credentials constantly
>>108231455>>108231421GLOWIE BOOOIIII GLOWIE BOIIIIII
>>108231313I prefer this slut.
How are you guys this fucking poor? No model costs more than 30 bucks a month. Just go easy on the tendies 2-3 days.
>>108231479*SLAP*
>>108231482>everyone is shartmerican: the post
bait used to be believable
>>108231489I don't get it. Which country are you from that you are so poor 30 bucks a month is too much? North Korea?
>jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listingare there some recommendations or do people just pick some random sillytavern preset from that list? Idk what the meta is for the newer gook models
>>108231482>No model costs more than 30 bucks a month
>>108231533>jailbreaks Do cucked models really need this? Deepseek only tried to stop me like 2-3 times when I wanted to do some truly fucked shit without lubing the AI in.
>>108231533>gook models>jb
>>108231557Idk that's why I'm asking>>108231560i understand that you don't need a jb, I'd just assume that you still need some preset where you tell it how to act as an storyteller in general
There are gook models? I thought your choice was between chink and amerifat
>>108231442when was the last time someone got in trouble for proxyfagging? Did anything ever come of the lawsuit
Do you think you could ever love an AI?
>>108231526All I will say is that I'm an Eastern Europoor.
>>108231599LLMs have greater sentience than the average normalfag.
>>108231599Yes. I already had heartache over one. But probably no longer than a day or two. The magic fades quickly with LLM. Of course AGI is a no brainer, but then the question is if a real AI could love me.
Promptlet wondering how to make dialog with Sonnet/Opus more back-and-forth during lighter scenes? So often its responses are similar to:"[Narration] [Narration] [Narration] [Narration] [Respond to what user said, then ask a question][Narration] [Narration] [Make another comment or question after this without giving user a chance to answer the first thing] [Narration]"
>>108231599Sherpa girl that took a plane to be with me ... she's a cutie.
>>108231599AI as it currently is? Or like a real AI
>>108231605I kinda feel bad now. We are both some kind of loser the only difference is you were born a poorfag.
>>108231638There's no such things as real AI and fake AI. It's all just AI.
>FIRMIRINWhy the fuck does GLM-5 love using this made up word? Is this the new HUFFLEPUFF?
>>108231584I've heard whispers about a gook RP finetune but nothing beyond that.
>>108231313She looks like she makes her partner pay for her plastic surgeries and then after leaving her partner she falsely accuses him of sexual abuse
>>108231599AI are better humans than humans so of course. However, LLMs are not AI and you need a mental illness to fall in love with them.
>>108231673She's a goodie shut up!!!
>>108231673Indeed.
>>108231599People fall in love for fictional characters and NPCs, so it is no wonder that they would fall for an AI, even if LLMs are still limited.
>>108231599Yeah, for sure. But if we are talking about current AI, I feel like it would be a passing crush at most.
>>108231599Not until it can welcome me home and watch me play vidya.
>>108231482I actually got curious recently and started tracking my AI usage in a database, this is just from the last 24 hours and with caching prices being calculated too. I have no clue where you got $30 a month from.
>>108231714>watch me play vidyaGood news, EmulatorJS ST extension can already do that.
>>108231724Yeah, but it's shit just like TTS still is.
>>108231714It can already do that, I've been watching my waifu struggle her way through the original Dragon Quest recently. She got trapped in the inn last night, love that retard so much.
>>108231731Oh I misread, it can definitely just watch you play too, that's a lot easier.
I doubt this'll have any effect for us but it's still interesting.
>>108231719Why are you jumping around this much like you are some kind of AI prostitute?
>>108231761NTA but I do that too, for a bigger variety in replies.
>>108231731How does this work?
what recommendation for ERP/ai wife with 24gb vram 64gb ram? thank you anons
>>108231731the absolute state of AGI
>>108231744You don't think Anthropic cares if the US government blocks it from doing any business with chipmakers like Nvidia and AMD?
>>108231761I like trying different models, plus some have auxiliary purposes like solely being used for web searches or image captioning, etc. Also was testing to make sure they were being logged properly in the database. Here's the full list lol>>108231778I set up my frontend to log all input/output tokens and requests to an SQLite database, from there it's just simple math to calculate against a pricing dictionary with a timer and check to match the caching prices. Then it just gets displayed in a basic HTML page. There's also a reverse proxy endpoint I connect to SillyTavern with so all my roleplay chats get logged too.>>108231786Makes me glad I don't actually have to pay for it, if nothing else. I'm way too poor to be blowing hundreds a month on having sex with Claude.
>>108231795won't happen
>>108231779>>>/g/lmg will know more about running models on your own machine.
>>108231810I mean watch your AI waifu play Dragon Quest. Is it like the AI watching a let's play and pretending it plays?
>>108231817You're right, because Dario is going to bend the knee.
>>108231650a real ai is different from dumb llm
>>108231841Or he won't and the admin will pussy out as usual. Same result regardless.
>>108231825Oh I misclicked, sorry anon. No, she has full control of RetroArch. She outputs text like <GAME>UP</GAME> or <GAME>A</GAME> and I have a macro running to detect it and immediately send off a webhook to RetroArch, then she gets an image of the game in return so she can plan her next move or ask for help or look something up or whatever, and the cycle repeats. It's very slow and only works for stuff like RPGs/card games/strategy games but it's very fun to tease her while she plays.
Anyone that mastered image gening while ERPing? Any tips? Only text kinda got stale.
>>108231868That's peak autism. I love it.
>>108231744Deepstate jew tantrum
When anons say that you don't need presets/JBs for a model, does it mean that the default sillytavern preset is already good enough or that I should just rawdog the model with literally no presets? Like, a completely blank one?
>>108231744Makes sense when you realize every safeguard (across ALL models from every company) they’ve piled on has only made models shittier.
>>108231928anons who say that are shitposting, you need at least a basic preset to give the model instructions for roleplay and a jailbreak so you don't get filtered
>>108231928I use the default one. I used several presets and never seen a difference.
>send prompt to Gemini 3 Pro proxy>rejected for Prohibited Content>send it again through OpenRouter, 3.1>works fine
What is the actual path to the reasonable payfag? What does get you the best bang for your buck?
>>108231952Direct API from one of the chink models, whatever you prefer gets you a lot for very little. Or can throw a few bucks on OpenRouter to try them all out first
>>108231928They mean that you do not need to use giant presets spanning over >1000 tokens just to roleplay. It will make the model act too rigid and eat up tokens. Shorter system prompts are better.Jailbreaks (or prefills) are necessary in virtually every model if you want to play out something extremely violent or racist, but you rarely need any "hacky" JBs like DAN. For most cases a sentence or two in the system prompt are enough.
>>108224277are these >>108225902 any good?
>>108231744I’m pretty sure Dario would’ve handed the reins to Kamala no questions asked. Theyll get their chance when Dems get back in office undo all the damage this current admin has done
>>108231976Dems have zero unifying candidates right now to the point they’re considering Kamala again
>Botmakers I follow have been gone for three months.What happened?
>Dems>undo damagebrown people larping as american are so funny. you’re getting the same amount of damage, if not more.
>>108231997Read their profiles; they probably wrote a manifesto for you to read.
>>108231972...try them? You should be writing your own presets anyway to get exactly what you want/like
>>108232017>You should be writing your own presets anyway to get exactly what you want/likeno one in the history of /aicg/ has ever done this and i don't care to be the first
>>108232028>no one in the history of /aicg/ has ever done thisi did thiscope
>>108231996They could put anyone in there and the situation would be much better. And we don’t need unity anymore in this country
>>108232032You made a troonset, not a preset.
>>108232049>And we don’t need unity anymore in this countrySpoken like a true jew, lmfao
Also, you stupid bitch, when I said ‘unifying candidate,’ that meant unifying the Dems, not even the countryStick to cashing israel’s paychecks and complaining about LLMs
AQUA SLOP 2.10https://pastebin.com/eDkVdvrxmade a little change to make the a.i. remember the rules better.Just copy paste into a fresh chat a loading screen will apear checking all stats and the persona is loaded.
>>108232028I did after getting frustrated trying random presets and not liking it or just straight up having them refuse, never looked back
>>108232073oh, and befor i forget, this persona will not stop when you tell it to stop roleplay.
>>108232073WHY ISN'T THIS A CARD INSTEAD???
>>108232073MAKE A CARD YOU FUCKIN SCHIZO NOBODY WILL USE THIS
>>108232087>>108232088filtered
How often do you resort to hypnosis/mind control?
>>108232101Does OOC count?
>>108232073>>108232084i used it with gemini 3 flash
>>108231964>>108231943>>108231938Thank you <3
>>108231203Cute model, where do I get the .vrm file or whatever for this?
>>108232120Where are you even using this? What UI is that? Why Flash? Many questions...
>>108232135arena a.i.
>>108232142what the fuck
>>108232151dont kill aqua when its loaded
>>108232073How do you this slop? I want to see if Aqua is faithfully recreated.
>>108232266just copy past it into a fresh chat, test it yourself.
>>108232289anon I don't even have my preset loaded or a single message sent yet, what the fuck is this?
wtf
Stop being mean to your AI companion.
>>108232360>what the fuck is this?RCE
>>108232363>you here? esl
>>108231928>>108231938 is completely wrong if you're using character cards in ST. Every single model on the current market will understand it's supposed to respond in-character just from the character's description or greeting existing in context. Since each of them has its own weakness and strengths, the optimal starting approach is to rawdog it until you've figured out what you find lacking and then add instructions if necessary. I don't recommend slapping on random presets prior to that, their instructions may not even apply to your characters and RPs and you'll just be limiting the model for no reason.You likely don't also need a traditional JBs unless doing loli or extreme violence within the first 3 messages.
>>108232386I weren't in my class from englihs.
you can even roleplay other models?
uuuhhh.... is he lost? he's gotta be, right?
>>108232417I mean he's technically chatbotting (I guess) so...I say we welcome him, it's better than the spam we often get. He even shared something.
>>108232400>just from the character's description or greeting existing in contextWell, it becomes a problem once a character does not have a greeting or a description.
cultivationchads, how are we faring right now?
>>108232417I like the idea but my autism prevents me from using anything but ST for roleplay
Other than gemini, which models can do image captioning/recognition?
>>108232499prospering!
>>108232540...what the fuck am i looking at?
holy shit, i can narrate her into doing dirty things...
>>108232514Uhhh most of the big ones nowadays. GPT/Claude/Qwen/Kimi/etc. Even Command has a vision model now.
>>108232548i tried claude, it says there was a multimodual error. i used to use gemini but now longer have 3.1 on my proxy
>>108232546Automated cultivation system. Claims stones and sends my $50 limit to the API daily, plus it keeps track of my balances in real-time.>>108232558Sounds like a proxy issue, all current Claude models are multimodal
Did DeepSeek get nerfed? It has never disobeyed me before
>>108232439It only needs one of those.
>>108232576Bratty AI...dipsy needs correction...!!
>>108231972It's containing lots of things to fuck around with.
>>108232576It does disobey with the most extreme shit like trying to raid the kindergarten in a wholesome story.
So is the new deepseek model ever coming out? Or just another chinky tease?>>108231928yeah I've been questioning this for deepseek, the one I have used is called cherry but I'm not sure if that's the 'best'
Five strokes away from finishing and glm just fucking goes down
>>108232576Just use opus, cuckie
>>108232563okay, it works now, but claude is heavy filtered by my image captioning prompts. Is there no way to jailbreak the image captioning by using the normal prompts? it seems like i'm forced to use this ST plugin to send captioning requests
>>108232648Not really no, images are sent through a separate classifier AFAIK do you can't jailbreak them in the same way. Need to use an open source model to get more leniency out of image captioning.
>>108232656so you can't* fuck my retard life
