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Which one should I get

>>108240231
Full retard price for that 7800XT

Should I get a 5070ti and a 4tb ssd or a 5080 and a 2tb ssd ?

>>108240231
9070 with a bios flasher or a 9070xt if you don't already have one.

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i have the method

>>108240278
5070 ti and 4tb ssd no brainer imo long-term
but i value vram and storage more aka capacity

I wanna upgrade my old pc, but I'm poor as fuck...

>>108240278
9070xt+oled

>>108240278
Obvious 5080 and 2tb ssd, you can always get more storage

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>remember to take your daily dose of waitfagging until morale improves.

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some retard put the wrong type of screw on a motherboard and now i cant get it out, it spins the other base thing that goes below the motherboard

Ive tried gripping the base thing with pliers while i use the screwdriver on the otherside but it doesnt seem to work, its quite an uncomfortable spot so i cant get a good grip either

how do i get this out? i dont mind damaging the case a bit, id preffer not to damage the motherboard but its no biggy

>Youtube videos talking about how it's time to start dusting off DDR3
Fucking Antique Roadshow bullshit.

>>108240609
BudgetBuildsOfficial is popping off in view because of this hardware crisis.

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>16gb ddr4 in anno domini 2026

>>108240655
you unironically don't need more

Building a PC is out of the question for me and I have $2k budget. I found MSI Aegis and HP Omen 35L on discount they look decent to me I didn't see any faults that I know of. Should I go with Aegis since it has better motherboard?

>>108240560
Pliers are too big in my experience. Try using a pair of tweezers to hold the nut (or even turn it the opposite way) when you're using the screwdriver

>>108240694
>Building a PC is out of the question for me
>I have $2k budget
??
You can build a high end pc (9800x3d, 5070ti / 9070xt) with that kinda budget, especially if you're looking for good deals on second-hand parts

>>108240705
doesnt work, and now my tweezers are bent out of shape lol.
its really stuck in there. Can i bruteforce this shit somehow? i have an electric drill

>>108240732
I live in leafland sadly my budget goes up to $3500 if I were to build one.

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>>108240560

>>108240770
dont have those
its over

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>>108240776
scissors might also work.

>>108240770
>>108240800
nah its completelly in there, no matter how hard i grip it it either turns together with both pieces or doesnt, the fucking retard really put an oversized screw into this
now ive tried so hard that i messed up the opposite side

whats the nuclear option? can i use an electronics solderer to melt it from the back and push it out? i know TIG soldering but i dont have a TIG station at home

>>108240867
is the thread on the other side fully fucked?

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>>108240887

>>108240560
grip from MB side and pull/turn, put something flat and push from the back.

>>108240903
tried. nothing

>>108240898
maybe you can remove the screw and the thing in the middle in one go. gives you more room to remove them from each other later. since the screw is just as stuck in the middle thing. like remove everything with the fucked screw. would probably turn it out and in again until it is fully removed.

>>108240927
no matter how much i turned it counter clockwise it wouldnt dissassemble itself from the chassis of the pc case when it was still in good condition, imagine now LOL

all ive did in the past 30 minutes is trying to remove the screw with a screw driver in different ways, if the part attached to the chassis had fell out i would have celebrated victory by now

>>108240278
The 5080 is a pointless card. Get the 4tb.

>>108240945
i guess you could turn it until it falls out. destroying the thread while keeping the retro mobo safe.

>>108241003
it just spins in place
spinning the screw also spins the mounting screw, and the mounting screw just spins in place, it doesnt come out ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcOqPuwZ-xs

You know maybe they were right

>>108240655
GDDR thou...

>>108240406
>you can always get more storage
Can you?

>>108241079
Yes, you can always buy more storage but you cant always buy more performance for the same price

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Anyone using a recliner+swining/overhang desk setup? I got a bad back and a gimp leg so I'm looking for big comfy chairs and some sort of desk that swings over the arm rests where i can put the monitor/mouse/kb

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>>108240898
thank god for drills

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>>108241050
RADV

>>108241140
Nice.

>>108241142
Only on AMD you can experience what it feels like to be Batman at 400+ hz minimum. This is a experience you cannot have on Nvidia or Intel.

>>108240278
5080 is a no-brainer.
Very good card. And it's going to stay relevant for a long time to come with DLSS. Unless 60XX series absolutely blows everything before it out of the water, it's going to be the best card under 3-grand for the next 2-3 years.

You can get more storage later. You can't simply upgrade your 5070Ti.

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Latest actual hardware for Windows XP and Windows 7

Windows XP

Latest Intel CPU
>4th Gen Intel® Core™ Desktop Processor (2013)

Latest AMD CPU
>AMD FX-9590 (2013)

Latest AMD GPU
>Radeon HD 7000 (2011) and R9 200 (2013) series

Latest NVIDIA GPU
>NVIDIA GeForce 900 series (2014–2015)
>NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti - 6 GB / GDDR5 / 384 bit

Windows 7

Latest Intel CPU
>7th Gen Intel® Core™ Desktop Processor

Latest AMD CPU
>AMD Ryzen 5000 Series (Vermeer/Zen 3) processors, ranging from the 6-core 5500 to the 16-core 5950X
>5800X3D and 5950X support

Latest AMD GPU
>AMD Radeon RX 5000 series, launched in July 2019

Latest NVIDIA GPU
>NVIDIA’s GeForce RTX 30 Series (Ampere) GPUs, released in 2020
>Starting January 16th 2023, Microsoft is no longer accepting driver submissions for WHQL certification on Windows 7

RAM
>Home Premium: 16 GB of RAM
>Ultimate: 192 GB of RAM

>To get the latest updates for your Windows 7 installation, you can use the Simplix Pack
https://blog.simplix.info/updatepack7r2/

>Firefox ESR 115 in order to use Firefox
https://www.firefox.com/en-US/firefox/115.33.0/releasenotes/

>Signed NVIDIA driver for Windows 7 — 8.1
https://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/228705/
https://github.com/dartraiden/NVIDIA-WIn7-Win8-Signed-Driver/releases

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>>108241050
linux.
Next question?

>>108240069
i was using my monitor vertically with my laptop recently and i think i WOULD like 2 vertical side by side monitors.
>it defeats the purpose
the total aspect ratio even if the 2 vertical monitors were one is still taller than one monitor. and it provides a natural division, theres no reason to have anything in the middle. so yeah i kind of want this

what are these monitors called

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I wish eu retailers has good open box deals that weren't actually more expensive buying open box than new

Next year's 77" s90h will be qdoled in Europe.. but matte though
But at this point s95h is ditching the ocb anyway

Is the tv pill the final cope

>>108241180
I dont see the need to get super powerful hardware for XP, i use it to play old games from early XP or some win9x stuff that can run in there anyway
the late XP games that are actually demanding were mostly made for vista /win7 too or have ways to be run in modern windows anyway

>>108241101
Take the tv pill today

>>108240379
Stop being poor is the only option, waiting is not an option >>108240492

>>108241197
>Is the tv pill the final cope
It's not cope. It is accepting the reality that TVs are the best option.

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>>108240379
prices were so good just before the ai ram rape idk why you waited so long. if you want to upgrade now you should buy a new psu and mobo and storage then buy everything else used, you could probably find 2x16gb ram and a last gen gpu for an ok price used if you are patient or lowball every gook on fb marketplace till they bite

>>108241217
Those tv deals are aburd considering it's a qd-oled, 77"
Cost half of most monitors
Meanwhile that same model In eu with a woled panel is 2200bux after multiple discounts have been added even further, new though
Open box deals are horrendous never seen a good one that is actually less than new

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it seems this is not going to work unfortunately

>>108240278
5080 and 2tb what a dumb question

>>108241180
>>To get the latest updates for your Windows 7 installation, you can use the Simplix Pack

Does XP have anything like this? An all in one update pack?

>>108241273
legacy update is gud

Some CEO on Leddit is betting all in that the AI and RAM/NAND shortage isn't ending anytime soon

https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/1rc8zot/i_just_went_all_in_on_crsr_after_5_years_of_pain/

For perspective, Corsair stock is -85% after 5 years

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>>108241280
>wallstreetbets

>>108241280
Someone said basically, DDR6 will be a thing one day.

And a shortage is literally all man-made, why is RAM needed for AI? Because AI is meant to make our lives better.

So I mean, I guess it's like RAM costs a fortune, but the next playstation will probably be literally a controller u connect to your TV and stream an entire generations game library from for $15 a month.

>>108241297
>but the next playstation will probably be literally a controller u connect to your TV and stream an entire generations game library from for $15 a month.

That's the goal and why they want to remove physical media

Windows 11 increasingly mandates a Microsoft online account and internet connection for setup, wonder why they even let you make an offline account

>if you don't care about DLSS then [Radeon card] is fine
This is one of the stupider templated automatic responses written by man. Everybody cares, developers and end users, and especially the ones who are always playing catch up with FSR. If you have it you care about being able to use it in every demanding game you get, if you don't have it you eternally seethe about not having it (with various different coping mechanisms). If someone is asking for what card to buy, it is telling them "if you don't care about the objectively superior upscaling method that is mandatory for every modern game--", which is doubly dissonant if comparing between a 9070/XT/GRE between other options because no one shops for such a solution to only play indie-pixel-slop or decade old games to begin with.

tldr is DLSS blah blah worth +$50 +$100 blah blah yes

>>108241325
don't play slop. don't need dlss. cope and seethe.

>>108241331
But you are the one seething. I love my 5090 and its features.

>>108241362
am i now? i simply do not play slop and "modern" games.

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BEHOLD
VERA RUBIN

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Tempted to buy a 27" 4k ips dual mode, they are again, crazy cheap
One could in fact get triple 4k 27" for the same cost as one 5k 27"

>>108241311
>>108241297
Next gatescube will run windows 11, consoles won
It will save PC gaming
You get a discounted pre built good enough xbawx with a good integrated gaymen chip and the rest will buy a 5090
We are not streamingcucks yet

>>108241280
Explain what this company is I'm not reading all that slop

>>108240732
>9800x3d, 5070ti $2k budget
impossible

>>108241262
who could have seen this coming

>>108241466
Actually seeing even more monitor deals here
AOC Q27G4ZDR 1440p 240hz qd-oled for 375€ actually like 100€ cheaper than I've ever seen oleds for here
Too bad it's aoc unbuyable firmware and so on
Sad!

>>108241466
I got a KTC M27P6 and I'm really quite happy with it.

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>>108241280
>betting all in that the AI and RAM/NAND shortage isn't ending anytime soon

impossible
the anons on /pcbg/ have told me all of this shortage talk is fake and several news reports said ram price is already coming down in fact I just went to pcpartpicker to confirm for myself right now and just look at the graphs see it's going dow-

wait. enhance.

oh ffs

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I have a 5070Ti, and a AMD 9850X3D. But built a new rig. All my thermal readings are really good under load.

But, I think something is fucked with my DLSS.
Are finer details like hair supposed to look this shitty?

>>108241540
>Are finer details like hair supposed to look this shitty?
yes
btw if you're playing at 1440p it's the absolute worst with the most visible shimmering and dithering regardless of what upscaler or native renderer you use

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>>108241508
Hold up, AOC might have fixed their monitors
Updated to only show a WARNING after 24 Hours of OLED use, no forced refresh even? Old AOC had the 16 hour counter
They might finally be learning
Plus AOC even has a pixel shift off feature like most don't even have
AOC might be good now actually

>>108241522
Those are not on sale here

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>>108241547
I am playing at 4k.
It's just, some shots look insanely bad.

It's also crazy, because under 100% load my GPU is only getting to 58C. Like, is that normal?
Should I really be using 100% of my CPU for this?

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>>108241562
I don't know if I am sold on DLSS.
Should I just turn it off and play at 1440p and upscale it for my 4k monitor?

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>>108241537
>didnt buy the dip

>>108241569
what DLSS are you using? 4.5? Which Preset?

Wukong can 100% look like ass even when using 100% of your GPU regardless

>>108241569
>1440p and upscale it for my 4k monitor?
Why would you let your monitor upscale instead of your gpu? It will look far worse.

2 months since i built pc
i have play like 7 hours of ace combat 7
most intensive thing ive done with this 9070xt
the rest has been browsing the internet
i thought things were going to be different, theyre worse than when i was on shitty laptop

>>108241540
J U S T
U
S
T

>>108241582
>what DLSS are you using? 4.5? Which Preset?
I don't know, whatever one the game used by default when I turned it on.

Can you force it to use a certain preset?

>>108241612
I turned off motion blur and it fixed a lot of the issue.
Not sure why that shit always looks so bad.

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These are my settings in Wukong.
Just says the DLSS is "performance".

>>108241592
Is there some other way to upscale to 4k other than DLSS or letting the monitor do it?

>>108241624
DLSS is the best upscaler there is. Some games are better than others.

>>108241646
I'd rather my upscale look a little grainy than a total blurry mess like this >>108241569

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>>108241552
>Q27G4ZDR
Nevermind, it has 190 nits in SDR that's even worse than the standard 250 nits
what fucking garbage
atleast they fixed their firmware maybe, but holy fuck they have to nerf the panel even more? due to shit build?
moving on

>>108241666
1440p on a 4k monitor is the definition of a blurry mess.

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which one should I buy?
Only difference is that Asus tuf got 2 HDMI ports, is it worth it?

>>108241708
9070xt

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Path Tracing turns old men...young?

>>108241708
Gaming Trio
Very quiet, low temps
Look at this
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-tuf-oc/40.html

>>108241833
>Gaming Trio
>Very quiet, low temps
Godspeed anon, thanks.

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Will a 9070 XT last until WWIII? (buy now never have to buy another gain)

>>108241874
You'll have a better chance with the 4090 or 5090 paired with a wireview pro 2

>AMD to sell up to $60 billion of AI chips to Meta over 5 years
it's over

>>108241708
don't buy MSI unless you can safely return, I heard of fan issues being a thing in their 50xx series cards.

>>108241624
>Just says the DLSS is "performance".
Heh

when it comes to actually assembling the PC, what are the parts that are more difficult or most likely to fuck up?

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>>108242010
Unironically power connectors, or connecting cables to your motherboard. the connection pins are very fragile and can be bent/snap and then you're screwed.

Pic related, i forced this thing in the wrong way on a new motherboard and bent the pins because i was trying to cable manage and hide everything in a small case, never again, i've never broke anything like a gpu or cpu and ive taken them apart for water blocks and water cooling.

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it's over...

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>>108242071

>currently gayming with a 9850x3d + 5050
>only way to get the frames I want in my overwatch/valorant is to make the game look like it's from 2000
>...
>I don't actually give a shit since I'm popping heads
lol, having an extra two grand feels good

>>108242071
>>108242074
qrd?

>>108242108
he's fat as fuck

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>>108242108
youtube recommends old gamers nexus videos.
>>108242110
he looks malnourished for american standards.

>>108242010
not knowing that the GPU is latched in while pulling it out, and you need to unlatch it (and it's impossible to fit your finger into there if you have a big air cooler, some mobo's might move your PCIE slot 1 slot lower than the first pcie slot on your case, which you could tell based if the pcie slot is aligned to the screw slot on the left), but usually when you break either the gpu or the mobo latch, it will still work.
Also if you have a dusty or hairy room, putting some dust into the CPU / pcie / ram slot will prevent it from working.

>>108242010
F-Panel

For us Americans, don't forget to file your tax returns early!

>>108241874
Yes, everything will survive until WW3.
AFTER ww3 (the chinese will win), I don't believe we will be using desktop computers anymore, and the new internet will not work on our old PC's.

>>108241801
the whole technology looks like shit, the only thing RT is good for is reflections and light rays, a well made game with good detailed models will look far better than any UE5 shitty RT game

I'm looking to either upgrade my current PC or build a new one soonish.

This is my current build.

CPU:
AMD Ryzen 5 5600G

CPU Cooler:
Stock cooler (or existing air cooler if replaced)

Motherboard:
Gigabyte B550 AORUS PRO AC (ATX, AM4)

Memory:
G.Skill Ripjaws V 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4-3200 CL16

Storage:
1TB SK Hynix Gold P31 PCIe Gen3 NVMe (Boot Drive)
2TB SK Hynix SSD (Storage Drive)
4TB HDD (Bulk Storage)

GPU:
ZOTAC Gaming GeForce RTX 3060 Twin Edge OC 12GB

Case:
Fractal Design Define R5 ATX Mid Tower

Power Supply:
EVGA 600 GD 600W 80+ Gold

NEW BUILD

CPU:
AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D

CPU Cooler:
Noctua NH-D15

Motherboard:
Gigabyte B850 AORUS ELITE WIFI7 (ATX, AM5)

Memory:
32GB (2x16GB) DDR5-6000 CL30

Storage:
1TB SK Hynix Gold P31 (Boot Drive – reused)
2TB SK Hynix SSD (Storage – reused)
4TB HDD (Bulk – reused)

GPU:
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5070 12GB

Case:
Corsair 7000D AIRFLOW ATX Full Tower

Power Supply:
750W 80+ Gold Fully Modular ATX PSU

Right now the games I play are dwarf fortress, modded Morrowind in OpenMW, DDO(dungeons and dragons online) and some crpgs like wrath of the righteous and BG3.

My core focus is just 1080p 120 hz.

Currently I'm cpu blocked pretty hard. In some areas of tamriel rebuilt I drop to like 30-40 fps.

>>108242071
I can already tell this is old because his hair hasn't greyed out.

>>108242074
which is fine because all he plays is starcraft broodwar

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>>108242203
>AFTER ww3
>he thinks there'll be something after
We're reaching the endgame.

>>108241205
I would but I play arena fps and need 500hz

>>108242414
Should I just wait for later? Really all I want is something good for 1080p. Though honestly I'd like to switch to using a big screen at 120 hz and I don't know if 1080p will look scuffed on a big screen.

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you are adding custom heatsinks to your gpu for better heat dissipation, aren't you?

>>108242473
you think you know better than the manufacturers?

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Thoughts so far? Can't figure out what case I want.

>>108242478
the manufacturers want your card to last 3 years, after warranty is over they want it to die

>>108242479
make sure the case gpu slot is 370mm+

is there anything to gain if I populate the empty slots in my gpu with capacitors? the pads are there but lots of them are empty

>>108242493
nah

>>108242473
Thankfully I don't need to add more heatsink to my 4090 as they were all overbuilt because of the last-minute spec change.

anyone undervolting and mem overclocking their 9070 xts? what numbers are you getting? I'm stable at -50 uv and 2680 mhz on the memory clocks, but I haven't tried going for more

>>108242493
If that was true they wouldn't give you any warranty at all.

>>108242423
>which is fine because all he plays is starcraft broodwar
on the topic of said game, I just unloaded the worst possible racial slurs and degrading comments on that game due a retard griefing in a team game
NA server retards

>>108242503
Yeah I've been looking at that with whatever the compatibility feature gives me. Kinda sucks as I wanted the Fractal Meshify 3, but this gpu is too big for it. I hope it gives me big frame rates.

>>108242473
best "mod" you can do to GPU is to replace paste after warranty is out. You can replace the thermal pads too but its not that easy since thickness is very important.
Anyway, it is kinda impressive to me how Nvidia always overdesigns their own cards yet they're always the worst out of all for performance and temps.

>>108242469
you are chilling for 1080p.
if your 5600g is causing you to run at 30fps, you are looking at 60fps with a 9800x3d (more likely to be lower than higher). CPU's don't scale as well as GPU's, and the 9800x3d is only 8 cores, the 5600g has 6, only way to know is if someone does a benchmark with the exact same settings between the 5600g and 9800x3d (assuming the game is CPU bottlenecked).
If you wait like 1-2 years, you will spend 2x more than what you are buying right now (hopefully either 20% faster or 20% more power efficient...), because new hardware is always expensive on the first release. But you could wait and eventually it will become affordable (but you will be buying cheaper parts, and missing performance, but you get the option to upgrade when newer parts come out? maybe?).

>>108242605
get the lian li that is better than the meshify

lian li 217

>>108242633
>>108242638
Looked at that one, reviews for it seem nice. But I fucking hate how the i/o ports are on the bottom. I want them on the top as my PC will be below the desk. Was there so many people putting their PC on the desk that case manufactures decided to follow this trend? Did these people complain about the front i/o ports being on the top?
Meshify 3 had them on top.

>>108242672
no one uses audio from motherboard, people learned what dacs are

>>108242673
>I don't use it so that must mean everyone doesn't as well!
I'm pretty sure most normalfags just use bluetooth or a 2.4ghz these days, they don't want to mess with cables. And I'm talking about the usb ports as well.

>>108242607
If you're willing to repaste a GPU then you're willing to do regular maintenance. At that point you can use putty which will greatly ease the need for exact measurements on the memory chips and assorted bits. Any issues with the putty degrading faster than a good pad is negated by the fact that you can just do it again.

>>108242688
putty doesn't work on vertical gpus

>>108240776
Go buy some faggot they're not expensive

>>108242688
putty is complicated because it actually can ruin the card if it leaks under electronic components, same for really shitty leaky thermal pads.
I personally changed the pads on my 3080ti after doing research on pad thickness.
It was probably the best thing I could have done for it, but now I have 5080 and this baby not only runs cold it also has phase change pad so It should be fine for many years to come.

>>108241193
> what are these monitors called
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_T220/T221_LCD_monitors

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>>108242414
> Gigabyte B850 AORUS ELITE WIFI7
Replace with the AsRock B850 Riptide WiFi!
It has a premium 8-layer PCB and 4 (!) x M.2 slots all of which can be used without taking lanes from the main GPU slot.
It's clearly the better value for the same money.

What are your hopes for the next gen amd cpu, anons?

>>108242699
Maybe just don't use vertical GPUs.

>>108242818
***clearly the better CPU destroyer

>>108242846
Cheaper RAM

>>108242846
A GPGPU stack that isn't a pain in the ass to get working on Linux.

>>108242874
> believes in memes

How do you guys feel about retro builds using era accurate parts? Or are you all about virtual machines?

>>108242846
I hope it licks my asshole

>>108242939
Pointless shite.

Using retro aesthetic? Yeah that's dope.

But like, classic cars make sense, they are somewhat functional and have rarity, some of them are the only ones to exist.

What's rare about computers? What can you use an old computer for?

>>108242944
You need older hardware to legally play 4K blu-rays on a personal computer.

>>108242944
It's mainly for nostalgia, but also for guaranteed compatibility with older games. I still have my old discs, having a system that can play them without issue is nice.

I know this isn't a common topic for /pcbg/, but does anyone have any recommendation for PC tablets?

I have a Surface Pro 6 from 2018. It has only 8GB of RAM and the SSD is extremely slow (it's the 128GB model, this was known at release too). It's getting a bit long in the tooth, I'd like an upgrade and I'd like it to be a PC x86 device too. I have tried looking at options and it seems this market segment is extremely shit / lacking nowadays. Some models I've considered:
>a new Surface Pro 11
The x86 versions seem to start at like north of 1500EUR, a 'nice' one with 32GB RAM and an OLED screen is over 2100EUR instead, seems extremely expensive for the specs
>OneXPlayer Super X
Seems to be new so not much 3rd party info on it, comes with an AMD AI Max 395+ so it should be much faster than a Surface, price is still like north of 2100EUR for a 48GB RAM version, OLED screen. Nice specs but apparently it weighs 1.3kg, I've never used such a heavy tablet before and I wonder whether it's too much for actual handheld use
>Minisforum V3
Slower but like half the price of the alternatives, cool feature to use it as an external monitor for another system, however it seems to be out of production now, can't be bought anymore
>Asus Flow Z13
Basically the same kind of device as the Super X, but it has an LCD screen and is even more expensive. Same problem with the weight at 1.2kg.

Basically all my options look extremely expensive, does anyone have any recommendation for other models? Do other models even exist? I can't find shit.

>>108243031
yes, the cpu cooler is backwards

>>108240069
>Native
it's time to stop. people prefer upscaling over native in blind tests.

>>108240231
I wouldn't buy either of these because they don't support FSR4 natively.

>>108240673
16GB isn't enough for web browsing on Windows.

>>108241180
why do this instead of run an xp vm on linux?

>>108241280
>wallstreetbets
>all in on a gaming ram company that doesn't produce the silicon
ok.

>>108241362
your card costs as much as a car, and consumes more power than my car does when I charge it at home using the same outlet.
how pathetic.

>>108241466
I think that's too small for 4k. you need to use dpi scaling on your desktop so you end up with either 1440 or 1080 resolution for your desktop. and then you're using upscalers in games too. you're just wasting money on nerfing your performance.

How is the Lian Li 207?

>>108241540
that's a feature, not a bug.

try using something more towards the quality setting of dlss than the performance one.

>>108241624
>>108243189

>>108241708
do you need the extra video ports? like right now, not as a possible extra future monitor?
msi is nvidia's favorite vendor now so I would trend towards them. I don't think they have any USA based vendors since EVGA left.

>>108243031
>5080
Ngmi

>>108242071
>>108242074
I haven't watched his videos in a while, is he still making anti-America schizo rants?

>>108243214
yes, he's still based

>>108242978
Ah, well you got me fair and square I guess.

>>108242599
I thought people only played UMS or 1v1 ladder in that game.

>>108243031
looks fucking stupid

>>108242673
headsets are all USB now unc'.

>>108243237
headsets are for poor people, buy an iem and a microphone instead

>>108242846
an APU that pulls 90W that performs as good as an 800x3d+60ti/xt and is efficient (<10W) when doing boring things like web browsing.

>>108242846
it's rdna 3.5 without fp8 instructions, so it doesnt run fsr4, it's literally shit, no one should buy it, wait for the next one

>>108242978
you should look into GOG. most of the legacy titles that are good are ported to run on modern windows without any problems.

>>108243249
only people who know what lossless audio are give a shit about anything you're saying, which is 2% of the people.

>>108243253
huh? zen6 is supposed to have rdna5 in their apu?
https://youtu.be/NPiZBmrj_Aw

>>108241624
>Just says the DLSS is "performance".
Performance meaning you get better frame rates, but less overall quality. You can switch DLSS to quality, but you'll get less frame rates.

>>108243277
they are releasing new apus in this semester, those are not going to be zen 6 or rdna5

>>108241374
what are the two big white blocks? are they the most important bits?

>>108243295
maybe data storage?

>>108241624
The DLSS/FSR performance<->quality scale is actually about the internal resolution the game runs in. "Native" means the game runs full res and DLSS is used as fancy anti-aliasing ("DLAA"), "Ultra Performance" means it runs at the lowest resolution available. The lower you go the muddier the final image gets.
DLSS with a bit of sharpening is the best upscaler there is but it won't do miracles, the closer you get to native the better.

>>108243290
oh. yeah I don't know why they're dragging their feet on rdna2/3 fsr4 support. it's a big fuck up.

>>108243323
my conspiracy theory is that they have a deal with valve to enable that when valve releases the gabe cube

>>108243336
that would be too convenient. plus the GabeCube is on Linux.

Is there any specific way to clean dirt/dust off of PC parts? My shit gets so fucking dusty its unreal. I fucking hate living in the desert.

I got these parts like almost 2 years ago and they're so filty now, its unreal.

>>108243365
Compressed air but in short bursts to avoid condensation. Rubbing alcholol on dies/fans/radiators.

>>108243365
buy cans of compressed air, sometimes labeled as dusters or keyboard cleaners.
https://www.staples.com/staples-electronics-air-duster-10-oz-spl10enfr-1/product_712196

>>108243365
Your mom's old nylon stockings over the intakes that you vacuum every other week. Airflow is going to suffer but it's that or more dirt inside.

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I have an old IBM server PC case and figured I'd turn it into a gaming rig for about 800 euro. Any recommendations for hardware ? I'd be running linux only and I don't need a chinese cartoon wife on my computer.

unrelated but wtf happened to the captchas since the last time I was here

I'm so nervous about actually building. I still have a few days before my last 2 parts arrive but I fear I'll still put it off for another week after that, if not more

>>108243613
just watch a few videos, it's not hard

>>108241624
You need to use the DLSS Override and one of the DLSS 4.5 Presets. That's just using in game dlss. Don't listen to the Nvidia app's """optimized""" settings they're retarded and constantly turn on maxing out frame generation.

>>108243613
check CPU is oriented properly,
don't force ram in

in fact idk, literally watch videos of people installing everything so youre doing it right

fsr 4.1 soon, already leaked

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>hwinfo now shows usb-c pd on asus boards
>it even shows ups info without the driver installed
what can't this godlike program do

595.59 is out

https://uk.download.nvidia.com/Windows/595.59/595.59-desktop-win10-win11-64bit-international-dch-whql.exe

>>108243677
It can't run on Linux sadly

>uk

>>108243653
>don't force ram in
ram often is quite difficult to insert into the slot all the way without feeling like you're going to break the damn stick or the motherboard.

Make sure you're doing that on a hard surface, with a cloth or mat underneath the pad for stability and to avoid breaking anything.

>>108243766
RAM slot usually a pretty tactile click during insertion but I've never had it be any strong compared to those goddamn motherboard and CPU power connectors which I can never pull out without feeling like I'm gonna rip the header off.

>>108243766
thats why i said don't force it

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whats the reasoning behind this

>>108243944
mutticans elected a grifter bufoon and now everyone gets the grifter economy, which will end up in a big collapse like 2008

>>108243973
You're just as mental for thinking about that stuff.

Go outside and smell a flower or something, fuck.

>>108243973
retard

>>108243944
is this seriously the state of SSD prices now?
I thought RAM was the one getting RAMMED in the ass

>>108243944
>>108243987
if you guys didn't know, Dram TLC SSDs have been super expensive for a long time now. The only "cheap" SSDs are Dramless QLC and those are worse.

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Is a good deal? How does it compare to the 9850X3D

>>108244019
that's a bad cpu for gaming

>>108243983
I'm "mental" for understanding that reality exists?
And I do go outside, and see all the problems leftist cause. Which is why you even have to think about it in the first place.

>>108243986
Can't even pretend to be sane, huh?

>>108240694
Since no one has replied yet I think I'll go with Aegis over Omen 35L, other than a better motherboard it's built better than 35L people kept telling me.

>>108244019
better multicore worse singlecore

>>108244033
yeah Aegis is better. HP has been poopoo since they phased out Compaq.

>>108244019
It's a scam CPU since it's two 6 cores glued together

it's actually criminal how the entire lineup of ddr5 cpus will be complete shit because of prices and crappy tech
by the times the prices are fixed we'll be almost in ddr6 territory and then it's better to wait for it if it actually comes with quad channel support, because ddr5 is just a shitty overclocked ddr4, lame as shit upgrade

>>108244087
why would anyone bother with ddr6 if the ai industry just wants stacked memory

>>108243987
Yes
The same few ram cartel members also happen to be in charge of nand production and the 300% cost grift is too sweet a deal to not pull off

>>108244087
>because ddr5 is just a shitty overclocked ddr4
ddr5 is actually a huge upgrade under the hood. the issues are we're plagued by bad qc and both intel/amd are dragging their feet with providing updates to their memory controllers so the cpu is slower than the ram.

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Fear mongering and doomposting bullshit put aside, as a Euro, if I work for a few months, then I can still get a decent computer, right? I'm not a 4kfag, and I don't play anything AAA. What's a good build for modded Minecraft, Dragon Quest XI, JRPGs, Senran Kagura, Girls Frontline 2 and every other 3D gacha? I'd be okay with 8 GB of RAM and 1080p. Not gonna use Win11 either and will just stick to Win10 or Linux.

>>108244087
Dude amd will be supporting ddr5 on their fastest CPUs up until 2029 at the minimum. Ddr6 isn't happening this decade

>>108244113
zen 6 would be out this year if not for the shortages, it comes out january 2027 and then there's only one more generation in ddr5, after that we'll be in 6

>>108244121
Zen7 will be on am5

am4/ddr4 lasted 4 microarchitectures.
am5/ddr5 needs to last at least 4-5, we're on the 2nd one now.

>>108240069
nice keyboard. bet that must cost a kidney...

>>108244112
pretty sure you can run all that on a steam deck or rog ally and they go for $250-300 used.

Is a qd-oled a much better option than a w-oled if I only gaym in the evening so I don't have to seethe at light raising black levels?
Or are the two technologies close enough that I should not even care about whether a panel is w-oled or qd-oled?

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>>108244061
I'm fucking lost here, how the fucking chink companies like MSI and ASUS knows how to make prebuilt better than burger companies like Dell and HP?

>>108244165
Qdoled is definitely better than Woled at night. There's no polarizer so you get the full color and brightness. Woled looks washed out and dull by comparison but it handles ambient light way better in the morning.

>>108244177
Burger companies race to the bottom to not go out of business
Chink companies start from the bottom and iteratively improve their trade.
The former no longer has the ability to make good quality products while the latter is always getting better at it

>>108244177
americans can't build anything, they can only steal

can't wait to see openai spend 1 quadrillion dollars making gpt 6 and it'll be only 20% better than 5 like 5 was to 4 and creating a supermassive blackhole in the stock market that leads to all americans getting severely poorer
the icing on the cake is deepseek spending 1/2000th of it and having the same results as they did with deepseek launch

>>108243987
What's nuts is I just bought a 2tb version of that drive I posted for £200. Why would doubling it to 4tb make it 6 times more expensive is idk, dumb.

>>108243766
>on a hard surface
is the mobo box hard enough? or too flimsy/bendy for ram insertion?

>>108244183
Alright thanks.
I read somewhere that qd-oled also has much less issues with gradient than w-oled. No idea if it's completely true or not though but afaik to at least some extent it is.
I'm going to decide until tonight whether I should get a 32 inch MSI one or a 27 inch ASUS one.

>>108244177
everything is made in china. american companies have to fly over there and beg for memory and supply.

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/resident-evil-requiem-geforce-game-ready-driver/

UPDATE NOW

>>108244389
>check some comments on guru3d
>people reporting fan controls only work for one fan with this driver
really?

PCIe 5 can output video through the motherboard’s thunderbolt port?!

Do the pins in an AM5 socket actually contact the CPU while its in the socket but before the latch locks it in? watching some videos some people do a wiggle in the socket to make sure its in properly before closing the latch, I'm just wondering if the CPU is actually in contact with the pins while wiggling it like that

>>108244421
usbc/thunderbolt support video output because its technically displayport

>>108244475
the pins touch but dont lock in until you use the lever.

>>108243944
UK SSD prices are shit, they're cheap in other countries

>>108244141
it'll probably be 4 as well

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>>108243925
and your advice was useless and retarded, which is why i elaborated and gave USEFUL advice.
>hurr dont break X when installing
no shit sherlock, that's not useful advice, when people ask about Linux, do you just spout retarded shit like "it just werks" as if that proves anything?

I bought a bundle from newegg without realizing they bundled incompatible RAM with an AMD CPU/mobo
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16820982256
Should I sell it unopened or could I clock it to 6000/cl34 and expect it to work without fiddling with it a ton?

>>108244497
I thought I was going to test the igpu with a usbc display plugged into the motherboard but it started using my graphics card and I was amazed, not knowing that that was possible

>>108244802
rdna2 had a usbc port on some cards for vr. also every am5 ryzen has rdna2 inside and it should support usbc or displayport.

>>108243944
RAM and SSD share silicon.

>>108244019
900x3d line shouldn't exist. avoid unless you want to tinker like an intel gpu.

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>>108243944
Gen5 is absolutely not worth it. SN850X was to be had for "just" €330 in January. Lucky me got one. Currently going for €425 here in goy money. SN8100 for €641. Gen5 is a terrible waste of precious shekels.

>>108244217
deepseek wasn't real though it was just copy paste of old chatgpt.

>>108244417
holy fuck so I still need to keep running on 566 or whatever my pre-5000 series driver is on my 4070?
I really need to just get rdna5 and switch to linux.

>>108244789
It's high frequency higher timings
You might get away with manual or lower EXPO if you have an MSI motherboard that can "attempt" different profiles for you
If you got an X3D it may help offset the timings being a bit higher

Ask again later I know there's an anon good at manual clocking 24/48gb m die kits (I think it's m die?)

>>108244789
when am5 launched they recommended a limit of 6000 anyways.

>>108244113
> Ddr6 isn't happening this decade
It will certainly come later than planned before the AI hype. Faster RAM doesn't meet the most important requirement of our time which is simply more RAM.

>>108244870
they also had racks of "illegal" GPUs too.

>>108244789
this is almost guaranteed to be m-die and they can do 6200cl32 no prob on ryzen but the subtimings will need adjustments because its all tuned for intel not amd.

>>108244087
Ddr5 was THE ram upgrade
Even going from 3600cl14 to 6000cl30 ram on a 12600k provides 20% better performance
Sorry to say but you missed out bigly if you skipped ddr5

>>108244789
To put things in context, You will probably not notice the difference between 7200 and 6000.

>>108244019
Why would people not just pay a little more and get the REAL thing?
This is the worst idea to try save money.

So when this AI bubble inevitable shits itself and explodes all these dog shit failure companies that go up will be sitting on truckloads of no longer usable components and trying to liquidate. That means the market will be flooded with stuff that will be dirt cheap, r-right?

>>108244929
ddr5 in fgr or mixed mode is the only way to play path of exile 2 without stutters because the older refresh method of ddr4 is too slow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4KlfgkS1xg

>>108244939
no, chatgpt will go out of business and all their assets will be scooped up by gemini and grok at a discount. these aren't consumer products that they're using this will be nothing like the mining collapse.

>>108244939
its all datacenter racks. consumers cant really use datacenter components. what are they gonna hook it up to? their house wall? it will blow the circuit.

>>108244943
It's criminal how long it took AMD to implement one of the fundamental new features of ddr5
12900k already had per bank refresh all the way back in late 2021

>>108244974
yeah amd has been saying fuck jedec spec for a while now. i think they still ignore tras on am5.

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>>108243766
> ram often is quite difficult to insert into the slot
> Make sure you're doing that on a hard surface,
Make sure your motherboard is carried by the mounting holes when putting any pressure on it. Install it on the mounting tray of the case or temporarily on a test bench before you work on it. I use the removable tray of an old server case to prepare my motherboards before installing them in cases that have fixed trays.

t. oldfag with dozens of builds under the belt

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>>108243425
> Any recommendations for hardware ?

>>108244929
> DDR5 provides 20% better performance
Cyberpunk 2077 in 4k on a 4090 won't run 120 instead of just 100 fps just because you use DDR5.
I don't believe this. Inb4 synthetic benchmarks.

>>108245062
avg fps barely go up but the frametime graph is smoother

>>108245062
>create a GPU bottleneck
>INCREASING YOUR CPU PERFORMANCE IS FAKE BURP

>>108245073
There is no reality free of any bottlenecks.
20% better performance is only real in your head.

>>108245100
high refresh rate is more taxing on the cpu, and the smoothness is better on a better cpu. 100 fps is not high.
you're not pushing 600 fps in cs2 with an i3/r3 and a 5090.

>>108245070
> the frametime graph is smoother
This is what I noticed myself when migrating from AM4 to AM5 with my 4090.
But It doesn't feel even nearly like "20% better performance". It was rather underwhelming desu. My OCed 5800X3D and Samsung B-die did such a marvelous job. A dream team! Now serving as a secondary gaming rig in my vacation home with a 5070Ti. I wouldn't need more just for gaming.

>>108243214
yeah because he is based.

>>108243031
what mobo is that?

>>108243185
It's a nice case with great airflow, but the fans it comes with have a chance of being defective and causing a whining noise at approximately >25% speed

never forget fangate 2/26/26
nvidia reaches a new low

>>108245379
>be manuel
>wake up thinking today's gonna be a good day
>see all the reports of gpu fans not working
i don't envy his job

>>108245379
>>108245387
qrd??

>>108245391
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/game-ready-drivers/13/582871/geforce-grd-59559-feedback-thread-released-22626/

I've got a 5080 and 9850X3D
Should I expect that my computer will be faster than the PS6 when it releases in three years?

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>>108245379
>>108245387
>>108245393
Wait you don't have an open loop?

>>108245393
>new driver was pulled
videocardz is salivating at the article he's going to write this morning

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>>108245393
>>108245421
Thank god I didn't buy a 5070ti

>>108245393
>amd no drivers
>nvidia drivers but no fans
kek

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Meanwhile new AMD drivers are out.
https://www.amd.com/en/resources/support-articles/release-notes/RN-RAD-WIN-26-2-2.html

>>108245393
Did they actually pull it?

>>108245472
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/drivers/
they did, it's gone

>>108245393
Imagine updating your drivers.
Thank you, beta testers, my 6 month old, very stable drivers appreciate your work.

>>108245475
My goodness
I wonder if they'll have a fixed one out today

>>108240303
Thought you don't need hardware flasher these days, not unless you brick it.

>>108245485
the chinese devs that work on hotfixes are probably crunching out a fix right now

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>>108240560

Freshly baked
Migrate when you care


>>108245501
>>108245501

>>108245394
>16GB GPU
lol.
also the PS6 is next year.

>>108245559
It's been delayed

>>108245573
>[citation needed]

Jensen called me last night, he wasn't in a very good mood because of "stock woes" so I consoled him. I assured him he's doing a good job and that the chips will eventually make themselves. And that the 4090 was divine.

Things started deteriorating when he mentioned something about Sam Altman raping one of his employees. "PR is in trouble. PR is in trouble." he kept repeating while tweaking two fists near his face, looking fixated at the floor.

Gave him a glass of chocolate milk and he thanked me. And went to bed.

Good lad.

>>108245586
device manufacturers not purchasing ram for a mainstream gaming console at 500% markup

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remember: server hardware is free if you take it from the dumpster behind your local tech company. add a gpu and it's a decent enough machine

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AMD abandoned gamers
>No SER OR OMM even on RDNA4
>no support for longvectors or 16 bit float specials on RNDA 3 or below
https://devblogs.microsoft.com/directx/shader-model-6-9-retail-and-more/

>>108241569
Don't upscale 1440p to 4k, look up "integer scaling"