B R E A KingCalifornians cant use linux without age verification California’s AB-1043 already signed, effective January 2027
>>108248106Enforcement mechanism?
>>108248106Assume I just woke up and got up from under my rock, can I have a quick run down?
>>108248117boomers in government doing stupid ass shit because they don't understand tech
>>108248117i dont know too but here's a longer versionhttps://x.com/ChibiReviews/status/2027151413860516180
>>108248106Californians are scared because their kids can watch hetero sex online instead of watching gay sex on the pride parades.
>>108248117Right-wing wackos trying to ban porn.
>>108248113non-existent
>>108248124Not a Burger but I just read up.This is not a coincidence btw, this is literally a world wide push happening at the same time.
>>108248161doesn't surprise me because most governments are composed of Boomers. in the 1980s these dumb fucks were trying to ban rock n roll
>>108248117California wants the age verification mechanism to be in the OS you use itself.The idea being that instead of forcing every website and application to do this you can just have the OS have it and send the data to the website or application in use.However we all know this is just to make sure they can have a vector for tracking people that can't easily be avoided by everyday people.We are at the end of our free speech and rights to privacy.At best this dumb bullshit stays in california and will only apply to california residents although I do imagine many other states may follow suit and if enough grumbling is done it might be proposed on the federal level. If the EU starts doing this type of shit then its pretty much over.So 2026 should be the year everyone here learnsto build linux from scratch and start looking into alternative internet protocols to build websites on.Also start building up your archives now...although I do imagine with all the storage and memory being made way more pricier that will now be a difficult option for many.All of this feels really orchestrated.
>>108248153>california is right wingok
commiefornians learn their place
>>108248113these laws still suck because they make everyone a criminal.What will happen in practice is that they will use these laws from time to time to go after chud distros if they need an alibi to attack them
>>108248106why wasn't this discussed more BEFORE it was signed into law? where was all the outcry and calls to action?
>>108248106>+CALINI..based
>>108248106In France they are passing laws to force social medias to verify their users are +15, which will be done by scanning IDHow weird is it that all western govs all have the same ideas at the same time
>>108248161Globalists are losing the narrative control so after everyone watching free internet porn for 30 years now suddenly we should save the kids and by that you cant have anonymity on the internet.
>>108248172this is going to be experimented in the UK and the EU soon too, I saw that COlorado was doing it in the US too, it's going to be neforced in the whole west by 2030 if I had to bet
>>108248195>How weird is it that all western govs all have the same ideas at the same timeIt's almost as if...
>>108248195can't have something the epstein scandal happening and spreading out ever again
>>108248106>Californians cant use linux without age verificationThat says BSD, not Linux.>California’s AB-1043 already signed, effective January 2027I can just remove whatever they add to my source code.
>>108248160they don't have to enforce it on the end user. They're not knocking on your door for not age verifying.With this they can focus enforcement at the producers of operating systems. Much smaller group to go after and they WILL bend the knee.I'm so sick of this gay globohomo world but I don't know if the normiecattle and goys really have the will to fight this shit.>>108248189obscured by the epstien and ice shit. BUT ALSO that epstien shit will have the normiecattle praising this.>>108248185exactly.>>108248195Ironically the normie cattle are primed more than ever to believe that stuff like this are indeed part of nefarious conspiracies to control and fuck us over...but they are also in a state where they will do nothing because they're all just begging for someone else to do things.nobody wants to risk losing their bread and circuses.>>108248204I'm honestly surprised the governments of the world haven't locked down the internet sooner. They were quick to lock down radio, TV, and phones. I guess maybe they just weren't getting the results they wanted from all the existing tracking and such they built in.
Well, next time the EFF emails me to beg for money I know why I'm not donating. Same for any other nonprofit protecting digital freedoms. They didn't just lose the fight, they didn't fight at all. I'm tired of everyone.
>>108248245>With this they can focus enforcement at the producers of operating systems. Much smaller group to go after and they WILL bend the knee.No, I won't. I already told you, I will remove any age verification they add to Linux and tell them to fuck off.
They'll be going for bios level verification next
>>108248106>Californians cant use linux without age verificationIs now the time to tell you MidnightBSD isn't linux?>effective January 2027How effective, tho, anon?How is this mechanism supposed to be enforced?>>108248124>boomers in governmentIt's a pity you didn't put 'em there or about now I'd be mocking you.Oh. Wait.Carry on.>>108248172>However we all know this is just to make sure they can have a vector for tracking people that can't easily be avoided by everyday people.Explaining why they implimented it as a plaintext variable with no authentication??>We are at the end of our free speech and rights to privacy.Because this is what you've spend the last few decades *ASKING* for.>start looking into alternative internet protocolsUnderstanding the protocols you already use would be a good start...>>108248204>experimented in the UK and the EU soon tooThey have no mechanism under which to compel distro maintainers to comply.They have no mechanism under which to compel OS users to comply.The mechanisms proposed to apply effectively result in a user-set numeric variable the OS has no mechanism to authenticate.
>>108248245>they don't have to enforce it on the end user. They're not knocking on your door for not age verifying.>With this they can focus enforcement at the producers of operating systems. Much smaller group to go after and they WILL bend the knee.>I'm so sick of this gay globohomo world but I don't know if the normiecattle and goys really have the will to fight this shit.I'm sure that some thirdie or second-world managed distros will still exist
>>108248245>Much smaller group to go after and they WILL bend the knee.ORLY.Lets pretend I throw code into MidnightBSD. What the fuck is california got in they bag to compel *me*?In a completely seperate country.
>>108248106why isn't there a lawsuit already?
>>108248117Apple is forcing iPhone users to post their ID to use their phone. Google is planning to kill Android, make Google Play Store the only way of accessing apps, and force devs (and users) to post their ID if they want to publish applications. Xbox already requires ID verification in UK if you want to play games, period. Discord, alongside Persona, is still "experimenting" with people, forcing face scans and ID checks if they want to chat. The US and UK govs want ALL computer operating systems (Windows, MacOS, Linux) to demand ID checks from their users before they can use THEIR computers.Valve won't bend the knee and implement crazy, Orwellian censorship and surveillance, so they are being sued by the US gov.>tl;dr:The megacorps are trying to turn ALL of us into their lapdog customers, and kill anonymous internet as we know it.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PHPKtXb_YyYhttps://youtu.be/zZ98DPIp0a4?si=FFoCH-rLQNNKqBAHhttps://youtu.be/5MZfGq5F1NU?si=-gg-Nk785w0tYeOehttps://youtu.be/-3BWaUcpQRU?si=4XwIE_JuFlSiEfFwhttps://youtu.be/Ie9-kgxKjIc?si=O5CDM-3fX0_aCw7shttps://youtu.be/UjWTXDcU5bk?si=MUsSG3ooakJRweCeHeed my words: Hoard OLD tech and physical media, ASAP. Inform all your friends and family what is going on, stressing that this has long-lasting, devastating effects on our privacy, security, and sovereignty. Contact your local politicians, and tell them that you are extremely worried about this war on free internet, and don't support this mess. It is NEVER about "the kids".
>>108248276you have to think 10 years into the future.Once you have major operator systems like windows and mac implement os level age verification, it's very easy to build a protocol on top of that that certifies your operating system. Before you know, the web will just stop working for you unless you are using a government approved operating systemJust as with DRM, you can opt out as a user, but they'll make your life harder for it. These slight nudges are enough for all the normies to migrate and suddenly everything you like will stop working one by one
>>108248153cali is a leftist, super majority, dominate shithole you leftypol troon
>>108248268>It's a pity you didn't put 'em there or about now I'd be mocking you.im gen z, this ain't my fault faggot
a bunch of smart guys from /g/ should make a distro build it anonymously distribute it via torrent in the gnu general threads rinse and repeatId do it but I don't have the knowledge how I could help write docs thoughJust base it off arch or something give it an install script so it is accessible to all levels of user
>>108248326>smart guys>from /g/kek good one anon
>>108248263this. you're going to be required to use tpm, secure boot, and chips already have that secure enclave shit.>>108248268>no mechanism to compelthe colorado law has fines, ibm is in colorado. i'm sure they'll find ways to force compliance.>>108248297this. phones are getting age verification first. browsers will be able to query your age range from the OS. websites will be forced to limit access by age. it'll be an end-to-end solution and if you don't use it you'll be blocked from every large internet site.
>>108248251Good for you.doesn't help the majority of people. Windows users, mac users, IOS and android users. and yes I would say the bulk of linux users too.BTW, you should be careful to make sure there are no provisions to cover if people remove the verification from their personal systems. At that point your lack of participation becomes a giant signal flare.>>108248268You are not thinking about the normie use case. Also the point is just to get people to scan their IDs so that their personal devices are tied to them and there is no more anonymity on the internet.You might be able to do something about that but 99.9% of people won't even know where to start to look. And if you put out information on how to circumvent this stuff you're getting a visit from feds.>>108248276If you're not in a country that is attempting to do this why are you even in this thread?>>108248297This guy gets it.
>>108248350I can see domain registrars being required to scan your domain, determine if you have a website, determine if you have the age checks, and then threatening to de-register you should you be missing the code for the check. So moving to personal sites will be made difficult/a no go.I can foresee this resulting into an actual "dark web" forming. Maybe even as far as local private networks being set up in cities.I can also see these being heavily attacked. Maybe even infiltrated with CP to justify it and make normies scared.
>>108248106california is years ahead of the europe now
>>108248106my question is, what does linus think of this considering hes a massive leftist faggot with two turbo feminist daughters. linus, who lives in PORTLAND.considering his tribal members are doing this in cali and co, i wonder how it makes him feel knowing he will have to add a massive privacy invading botnet into his kernel.he can't just come out against his own political tribal members. he tried that once with the coc and they ate him alive. these are his people.
>>108248309>you have to think 10 years into the future.>Once you have major operator systems like windows and mac implement os level age verification, it's very easy to build a protocol on top of that that certifies your operating system. Before you know, the web will just stop working for you unless you are using a government approved operating system>Just as with DRM, you can opt out as a user, but they'll make your life harder for it. These slight nudges are enough for all the normies to migrate and suddenly everything you like will stop working one by oneThis bullshit can't possibly be constitutional. The SCOTUS wouldn't even let California ban violent vidoegames via ID checks, how the fuck can they do it for an operating system?
>>108248309>you have to think 10 years into the future.Ferk that. Here and now.What can california do to me, here and now, to make me play their game?>it's very easy to build a protocol on top of that that certifies your operating systemGood news. That already exists.>Before you know, the web will just stop working for you unless you are using a government approved operating systemA few services who's absence will not actually impact anything might stop working... >everything you like will stop working one by oneEvidence I hold value in the docile media that will vanish, and have zero ability to replicate anything that would actually require retaining?>>108248319>im gen z, this ain't my fault faggotOh. I'm sorry. I thought there was a piece of paper that wrote into law your right to enact violence to protect yourself from tyrannical rule.My bad.>>108248350>the colorado law has fines, ibm is in colorado. i'm sure they'll find ways to force compliance.Compell IBM maybe. They're registered as a company in that jurisdiction and therefore under the governmental hierachy. Now evidence this applies to me. Not that I actually maintain a distro, but it's really not that hard to fork suttin'>phones are getting age verification firstBecause they bend over and take it the quickest>>108248351>You are not thinking about the normie use case.And you're not thinking about the real world...How many distro maintainers are obligated by that jurisdiction?Worst case, is like MidnightBSD they just adjust their licence to say you aint allowed to use it there, and then the cuplability shifts from them...>Also the point is just to get people to scan their IDs Explaining it's implimentation as a user set purely numeric variable the OS has zero mechanism to authenticate??>If you're not in a country that is attempting to do this why are you even in this thread?To mock your hilariously disjointed impression of reality?
>>108248447ill ask grok what he thinks and respond back to you. i do wonder what the supreme court would say too.
>>108248447>This bullshit can't possibly be constitutional.this nigga still believes in laws lmao
>>108248432red hat will submit patches and he'll approve them.>>108248447that was the old supreme court. have you seen what happened to the supreme court? don't expect any support.What options do we have? Tor? Return to BBS' and fidonet and dialup?
>>108248297>Heed my words: Hoard OLD tech and physical media, ASAPI knew the deepstate planted those bedbugs in my old hardware that I had to throw away because of said infestation.
>>108248447>>108248461>>108248467>>108248471https://x.com/i/grok/share/5f4c887857544050b399f8154725afac>No, it's not clearly unconstitutional—and it's structured specifically to survive the kinds of First Amendment and other challenges that have killed similar but more aggressive state laws. As of February 2026, AB-1043 (the Digital Age Assurance Act) has been on the books since October 13, 2025, with no filed lawsuits challenging it (unlike Texas's app-store law, which was sued within days and partially blocked). Courts haven't ruled on it yet, so "legality" is untested, but the design makes it one of the more defensible age-assurance measures passed by any state.So apparently CO and CA wrote their laws in a way to make them supreme court approved.
>>108248106so dumbstop caving to this moronic shit
>>108248471>that was the old supreme court. have you seen what happened to the supreme court? don't expect any support.>What options do we have? Tor? Return to BBS' and fidonet and dialup?They upheld the porn ID law, but that was porn and yea there's too many fucking women on th SCOTUS right now, but this won't hold up. An operating system has no inherent sexual element to it to make retards like Amy Coney Barret throw out her ideals over "I'm a mom" bullshit. You could just use an OS to create Spreadsheets. There's no fucking way a bunch of libertarian larpers would certify this kind of insane over-reach when it isn't directly tied to a specific moral panic. Reminder, the Texas Supreme Court recently shot down age-gating social media. The only reason why companies are buckling now is because the UK is and Orwellian hellhole with no enumerated rights.
>>108248482for those that dont want to click the link
>>108248502>Child-protection/parental-rights angle: Strong win for states. The Roberts Court has been receptive to laws shielding minors from online harms (see porn-age-verification cases). Self-reporting + signal is minimally intrusive.So this one will be hard to beat in the courts. They found their loophole for spying.
>>108248447this doesn't disrupt the flow of commerce since everyone needs to use these devices anyway so SCOTUS will find a reason why this is ok to do.When are you going to learn that they're all in on this shit? every single branch and every group. The fighting they do with each other is all theater.>>108248457>How many distro maintainers are obligated by that jurisdiction?you really think the likes of Ubuntu, redhat, fedora, in general all the popular OS distros are just going to kneecap their user reach by not playing along?A lot of these like to be able to be used in enterprise/businesses.>Explaining it's implimentation as a user set purely numeric variable the OS has zero mechanism to authenticate??I also don't know why you keep saying this shit. You scan in your ID and then details about your machine (mac address most likely) is pushed with your ID. bam they got everything they want. yeah perhaps you can obscure all of that after the fact or maybe fake it or whatever but the point is to track you.And consider this, with the vast majority giving in and being tracked your efforts to get around it becomes the very thing that makes you an interesting target to look at. Like a patch of darkness somehow in the middle of a well lit room.But also your attitude in general is not very helpful. A whole lot of billy badass "well they can't touch ME" type of shit but not really offering anything that is useful to other people.
>>108248482Grok is hallucinating. This law will get sued into non-existence like the Teaxas ID social media law 100 percent. It won't even have to make it to the Supreme Court, the higher state courts will remove its enforcibility years before that.
>>108248457>>you have to think 10 years into the future.>Ferk that. Here and now.>What can california do to me, here and now, to make me play their game?Nothing. Rights erode slowly at first, and they these people are ever experimenting, this is just the next iteration.
>>108248527he's not. read what he wrote.it doesn't violate free speech at all like the texas app store one did. and even then, it was a partial block. they ruled states can issue age verification to shield minors.the co and ca ones were written to not face the same issues as many of the other ones that were blocked / partially blocked. this one will be MUCH more difficult to shoot down.
>>108248502Fucking bullhsit, even the 9th Circus will throw this out. It has no chance of survival.
>>108248326ill make the logo
>>108248113Microsoft will implement it because they love spying on their users.So this will be used against Apple, forcing them to other bend the knee or leave the state.For GNU/Linux, it'll be used to stifle adoption and possibly as a way to move towards Windows servers. They will make the OS illegal, which they will use to selectively punish people (oh you use guhnoo linucks and encrypt your computer? that's illegal so we're tacking on 10 years) shit like that
>>108248516>When are you going to learn that they're all in on this shit? every single branch and every group. The fighting they do with each other is all theater.Nah, I don't buy it. The SCOTUS is still unpredibable. According to liberals, they shouldn't have thrown out Trump's emergency tarrifs but they still did. There's no reason to fucking age-gate just booting up a computer. It's fucking absurd and even the justices will realize that.
>>108248144stop making it seem like they are perverts
>>108248447>SCOTUS wouldn't even let California ban violent vidoegames via ID checks, how the fuck can they do it for an operating system?Was that before or after everyone started supporting Palestine over israel
>>108248542>he's not. read what he wrote.Grok is not a he, it's a fucking AI, you autis, and I trust my read on the court more as a human being than that fucking thing. Something they're not accounting for that Grok can't understand is that the court loves to have it both ways. They gave the thumbs up to the porn-ID law, but they're going to do the opposite to non-porn related lawsuits to try to maintain their credibility as a libertarian court.
>>108248482CA just found a backdoor to allow their "violent" video game ban. Video game developers will have to support this API. That will be the most obvious next step.CA couldn't ban violent video games, but they can enforce regulation with the ESRB. Same with films. Video players will have to support this and newer movies will have to support it.I just realized the movie / music industry could use this to identify "pirated" media.
>>108248586Be prepared to be proven wrong when this doesn't get shot down. Its not intrusive enough to be shotdown.States have long had the ability to regulate. This bill does not violate anything.
>>108248516>all the popular OS distros are just going to kneecap their user reach by not playing along?Pretty much.What's the alternative? I'll fork their hard work, and as people actually want what I'm offering the development will shift to there and we're right back to square one.>I also don't know why you keep saying this shit.Because that's the mechanism proposed to be implimented?>You scan in your ID and then details about your machineThis is detailed, where, precisely? I mean apart from the docile media memes you for some reason think count as an education.>whatever but the point is to track you.What leads you to believe this capacity isn't already in place?Would it be the fact that the physical location of every cellular mast is known? Surely keeping records of what router has been given what IP and metadata for everything that goes across the network - assuming Akamai Technologies isn't taking a copy via the sniffers on every backbone everywhere apart from N. Korea, and recently, China - Surely that stops "them" from tracing you?F'kin dipshit.>But also your attitude in general is not very helpfulBut panicing over unenforcable bullshit is?>>108248533>Nothing.And that's all this is.Unless ofc you actually want this and go out of your way to make this happen....
>>108248601>Be prepared to be proven wrong when this doesn't get shot down. Its not intrusive enough to be shotdown.>States have long had the ability to regulate. This bill does not violate anything.It violates rights in multiple amendments and does not have the strict scrutiny loop hole they gave to porno. It won't work or you may as well burn all the enumerated rights with it because they would no longer functionally exist. The government has no right to fucking snoop on you just for using technology.
>>108248195>Everyone and their mother says that the internet is melting underage people's brains and that kids should be banned from social media/the internet>Everyone and their mother refuses to actually parent their child, and makes the government do it for them
>>108248106Does this mean all the bot farms will go away because it will reveal such bots in a government audit?
>>108248648The government has any right it desires because it has killer drones and you don't.
>>108248648just because you keep saying it violates doesn't mean its true. it doesn't. it was written specically not to violate any of the recent supreme court rulings that either fully shot down or only partially shot down similar bills.again, the texas bill didn't even get fully shot down. it was only partially, and the CA and CO bills learned from those rulings.
Should I be downloading Linux ISO's right now? (Californian)
>>108248558If you do that. California will crumble >>108248326Call it /g/trix
>>108248658gen x/millennial parents and their consequences have been a disaster for the human race
>>108248601>>108248681You're an autist shilling for doomposting, and the boomers who wrote this law are fucking retards with barely a grasp on techonlogy yet alone the law.Here, I ran a different AI to get the real answers. It will NOT pass this kind of strict scrutiny test period. Stop doomposting and instead argue for the legal challenges which is how you stop this crap.
>>108248678>The government has any right it desires because it has killer drones and you don't.More because in games of jurisdiction(From the latin: 'Juros' meaning 'use of' and 'Diction' meaning 'words') the people in charge of the use of words adjust the words and the use...>>108248686>Should I be downloading Linux ISO's right now?Do you want an *nix .iso right now?DESU these are good things to have kickin' about as a matter of course... But unless you can evidence california's jurisdiction over the internet you're probably safe.
>>108248245this won't be enforceable because many distributions of linux are decentralized, but i can see this affecting mac, microslop, and android who all have corporate developers.the glowies might try to penalize the organizations that manage linux distros, but the worst case scenario is that the mirrors will blacklist downloading distros from californian IP and you can use a VPN to pretend to be a non-californian to get the ISO image. there won't be any built in features on the OS itself because these laws are state-specific.the linux community is extremely anti-authoritarian and they don't have to comply in any meaningful way. this is like porn websites with a NSFW disclaimer curtain. they don't really care about the moral implications of their product being used unlawfully, they merely want to cover their asses from litigation.i'm not justifying this law, i'm just saying that it was written by boomers who don't know the easiest of tricks. the only people who will opt into this are facebook moms.
>>108248717Reminder, the FUCKING SCOTUS had to revise an earlier ruling to create some retarded eception for porno to thier legal precedent on privacy. There is ZERO chance they would do it again just for booting up an OS. NONE. All that has to be done is challenge this shit in court and it would get ripped apart in court on the basis of silencing anonymous speech.
Tails better comply!
>>108248648if you read the prompt response, the bill doesn't actually spy. >the bill does not mandate photo id, biometrics, parental consent for downloads, or content filtering>the account holder of the operating system has to self report their birthdate. no verification is required>the os generates an anonymous encrypted age bracket signal that signifies under 13, 13 - 15 years old age bracket, 16 - 17 years old age bracket, 18+ age bracket>when an application is downloaded / launched developers must request this age bracket signal via a standard api. >no extra data collection, no sharing the signal beyond what's needed>enforcement is only allowed by the state attorney general to sue developers who do not comply (both operating system and software)
>>108248106>Californians cant use linuxNo shit, that's why BSD exists
>>108248185>the feds are coming for our linux distros!!!!are you niggas serious
Inb4 /pol/tards try to justify this somehow
>>108248741>under 13, 13 - 15 years old age bracket, 16 - 17 years old age bracket, 18+ age bracketBingo. ESRB ratings. They are coming for video games.
>>108248741>if you read the prompt response, the bill doesn't actually spy.Yes it does, it's why this is even controversial. Are you some jeet working for Microsoft or something? Fuck off you nigger. My OS doesn't need to fucking know my age or speak for me teling my age to an app store or anything else on the internet. It's not just the verification that is illegal, you jeet, it's the compelling of saying your birthday to the machine.
>>108248741it's a wedge. slippery slope. "but we allowed age verification, why is identity verification not allowed". you get something basic into law and then start adding shit to it.
>>108248546>>108248568The argument will be made that you don't HAVE to own a computer. you don't HAVE to own a smart phone.Now you might think that's bullshit considering other similar laws they shot down that would have hampered even far less critical things to own/participate in but they will bring this up.BECAUSE THEY ALL WANT THIS.>>108248610>This is detailed, where, precisely?its how the company "Persona" was operating to do the age verification for discord. In what world do you live in that they won't make you provide a picture of your ID?>What leads you to believe this capacity isn't already in place?If everything you mentioned was enough for them they wouldn't be trying this shit globally.Its also a case of ease. All your internet activity has an identifier of who you are makes it far easier for them to see you and far harder for people to hide.You're also not seeing that this is the backdoor way into their digital ID project. This will be used to track you far more closely. Because this will be required to use your phone and now your phone is a far easier identifier of who you are and where you've been.And lets say the government does nothing with this...well this info will probably be available to large corps (for a price) and they'll track you.Imagine a world where your employer knows exactly where you've been and what you've been up to by simply searching your name.were you at a political rally they don't like? fired or barred from being hired.visit websites they don't like and buy something naughty like a gun? oh you're out.>>108248723All the major linux distros will follow suit and stay compliant. What you're describing are edgelord distros that almost nobody uses.>>108248741>turns out kids are just lying about their age. guess we need to do actual ID scans!it will be the next thing after everyone is on board with this first push.>frog status, boiling.
>>108248756yup. ca and co will force video game developers to support this so they can prevent kids from playing games like gta and cod.lefties were already raging a few years ago how shooter games "glorify gun violence" and a "culture of guns."
>>108248769>it's a wedge. slippery slope. "but we allowed age verification, why is identity verification not allowed". you get something basic into law and then start adding shit to it.The SCOTUS would have to erase basically 30 years of precedent to approve something like this. The porn thing they made as an exception. There's no way the libertarian larpers Trump put on the Supreme Court are going to throw that all way to go full CCP. I don't buy it.
What does the "Free" in FreeBSB mean?Free as in beer?
>>108248765you can't read can you? explain to me how the government is spying when nothing is transmitted, no actually identification is required, its all local with an encrypted, anonymous key that only stores an AGE bracket. not even the actual age of the user.
>>108248117tl;dr, fun's over.
>>108248778they didn't ban porn. porn was already restricted to anyone under 18. supreme court many times ruled states and the federal government can limit porn to children. as children do not have the right to free speech. the supreme court already stated states and the federal government can mandate id to check age to obtain adult material.the internet was a loop hole to that. all the supreme court did was rule states / federal government can obtain id for age verification for adult material on the web.
>>108248780>you can't read can you? explain to me how the government is spying when nothing is transmitted, no actually identification is required, its all local with an encrypted, anonymous key that only stores an AGE bracket. not even the actual age of the user.You're a complete midwit. The SCOTUS said the state of California couldn't card minors when buying violent videogames becuase it was silencing 1st ammenment rights. Can you explain how someone at Gamestop carding a 15 year old involves "government spying" too retard? The point isn't that the government is spying, it's that the government CAN'T create rules that enforce squashing speech like that, which is what this law would do 100 percent. Stop shilling for the man. This is unconstitutional on its face.
>>108248778with all the epstien shit and everyone primed to protect the kids the scotus will not want to do anything that can make them seen as people who want kids to be harmed which is how it will be framed if they shoot this down.This isn't even a game of chess this is a game of fucking checkers how can you not see this?Are you just high on hopium? you need to stop sipping that and get back to reality and be prepared for the dive into dystopia. its happening all around us. Its happening fast.You think they're just going to get in the way of the plans for palantir?>>108248780are you a fucking retarded redditor? Are you going to start yelling about slippery slope fallacies next?Do you not get it? its real. YOU ARE ON THE SLOPE AND IT IS LUBED!
>>108248801>they didn't ban porn. porn was already restricted to anyone under 18. supreme court many times ruled states and the federal government can limit porn to children. as children do not have the right to free speech. the supreme court already stated states and the federal government can mandate id to check age to obtain adult material.>the internet was a loop hole to that. all the supreme court did was rule states / federal government can obtain id for age verification for adult material on the web.They over-wrote a previous rulin on porn with a "strict scrrutiny test, narrow tailing, etc" test that is NOT going to apply to simply using a fucking computer, which could literally be used for anything as much as a pen and paper could be.
>california trying to restrict peoples free speech onlinehmmm
>>108248779"free" as in "free use", AND as in "free sex"https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/faq/#why-called-FreeBSD
>>108248778I don't know. I hope you're right, but I've lost confidence in the system.
>>108248838that is exactly what this is all about
>>108248827>with all the epstien shit and everyone primed to protect the kids the scotus will not want to do anything that can make them seen as people who want kids to be harmed which is how it will be framed if they shoot this down.The wildcard was always fucking porn because of the retarded prude parent "conservatives" on the court. 100 percent this will fail, because the breadth is too fucking wide and does not explicitly involve porn. All 9 justices would have to do a complete 180 on all their beliefs regarding government power, free trade, privacy, etc. etc. for this to happen. In fact, it would probably get shot down with everyone save for Clarence Thomas calling it retarded.
>>108248838>>108248846Digital ID to make sure you stay within the "moral borders"
>>108248832they didn't. the previous ruling for porn was.>Ginsberg v. New York (1968): Upheld a New York law banning the sale of "girlie magazines" (sexually explicit but not obscene for adults) to anyone under 17. The Court created the "variable obscenity" doctrine: material can be "harmful to minors" based on its sexual content, even if adults have a First Amendment right to it.>Free Speech Coalition v. Paxton (June 27, 2025, 6-3 decision): The modern confirmation. Justice Thomas wrote the majority opinion upholding Texas's law requiring porn websites (those with a significant amount of "sexual material harmful to minors") to use age verification (e.g., ID upload or similar methods). >Adults can still access everything after verifying.>The law only incidentally burdens adult speech while enforcing the longstanding ban on giving that content to kids.>Applied intermediate scrutiny (not the harshest strict scrutiny) and said it easily survives because of the state's compelling interest + historical tradition of protecting minors from pornography.in comparison to the video game ban:>Brown v. Entertainment Merchants Association (2011, 7-2): Struck down California's exact attempt to do what you're asking about — ban the sale or rental of "violent video games" to minors (which would have required retailers to card buyers for ID). >Justice Scalia (majority): "Speech about violence is not obscene." The obscenity exception (and the Ginsberg "harmful to minors" extension) applies only to sexual conduct, not to whatever a legislature finds shocking or violent.the court doesn't consider violence as obscene.also:>Burden on speech: Porn laws create an age gate (minors blocked; adults verify and proceed). The violent-game law was a flat sales ban to minors based on content, which triggered stricter review.ca video game ban was effectively, to broad. it was a ban on "violent" games. while porn, there isn't any discrimination on the TYPE of porn.
>>108248778>The SCOTUS would have to erase basically 30 years of precedent to approve something like this.Yes, the current administration cares about lot about precedence when it comes to things that fuck us over mhmm
>>108248590>>108248756grok states this cannot be used to enforce esrb ratings.
>>108248838>>108248847People don't realize that the "Samson" option Israel likes to talk about is actually control of the nukes of all the countries that "stand" with them. (captured the elites of).>>108248853the optimist in me hopes you are right. The realist in me thinks you're in for a world shattering wake up call in the near future.
>>108248886these are the rulesso this verification can only be used to enforce:That knowledge is used only to follow existing privacy rules:COPPA (under-13 data collection)CCPA teen rules (13-15/16)California Age-Appropriate Design Code Act (data minimization, no harmful default settings for kids, etc.)
Can you faggots please stop posting your chatlogs with robots here. Nobody cares.
>>108248875The 2025 intenret porn ruling over-rid an earlier ruling form the 2000's. You're probably a zoomer that doesn't remember when that happened, but I did. The previous ruling just told parents to use software to keep their kids from seeing porn isntead of demanding ID.>>108248875>the court doesn't consider violence as obscene.Which is WHY age-gating an fucking OS is unconstitutional. You could use an OS to just write book reports and read FoxNews.com. The idea this is legal is insane.
>>108248106kek, this is the funniest shit i've seen all week
>>108248880>Yes, the current administration cares about lot about precedence when it comes to things that fuck us over mhmmLook at the emergency Tarrifs decison and how much Trump ripped into them over it. They're not going to 100 percent one way or the other because these people still think they have principals. The only thing they've shown they will throw them away over is porn, but that's what happens when you fill the court with Catholic retards.
>>108248886The age bracket signal is compelled speech, an intrusion of privacy, and unconstitutional on its' face. Grok is wrong.
>>108248907its not, because again, you fail at reading.this age verification is only to enforce strictly ca rules:That knowledge is used only to follow existing privacy rules:COPPA (under-13 data collection)CCPA teen rules (13-15/16)California Age-Appropriate Design Code Act (data minimization, no harmful default settings for kids, etc.)there is nothing unconstitutional about it.look, i do not want this to go in affect either because i know this will expand to full 1984, communist level surveillance. but as it stands, the way its written, makes it extremely difficult to shoot down in the courts. also, it was the 2005 ruling, was the one that somewhat overruled the 2004 ruling. not this one.
>>108248236>I can just remove whatever they add to my source code.That's illegal. And that's the scary part.
>>108248931the 2025 ruling upheld the 2005 ruling that somewhat overruled the 2004 ruling.
>>108248106non-mutt here, does the commerce clause apply, as in 'regulating this is unconstitutional because you are not allowed to regulate commerce within a state', or is that just a meme these days?
So this basically means every computer will be forced to have an internet connection right?
>>108248926no, its not
>>108248931>there is nothing unconstitutional about it.Now I know you're shillng for some god awful corporation. The fact the law makes you computer communicate an age bracket to app stores is compelled speech, the state forcing anonymizing people for no good reason, let alone an compelling one, and many other reasons. It's not constitutional for a law to do this period unless there's a compelling reason to do so and there is not. It would be like block minors from going into the library. You're retarded.>>108248946>>108248946>the 2025 ruling upheld the 2005 ruling that somewhat overruled the 2004 ruling.The 2025 ruling didn't throw out anything ecept for porn viewing. There is no reason to believe the court would apply it to anything else or they would have said so in 2025.
>>108248955no. the bill is written where it explicitly denies any connection and verification.its a local only, trust what the user inputs for their age system. and its only to enforce ca laws regarding age restricted content only in the state of ca
>>108248960my last reply to you.you, are one giant retard and when this isn't shot down in the courts i'm sure you will be honest and admit you were wrong (don't worry, i know you won't.)contiune to live rent free in your head canon.
>>108248958Stop asking your cyber-waifu to make arguments for you, you retard. It doesn't fucking matter what the fuck Grok things, it matters what the human justices think, and there's no way they don't think something like that is compelled speech and not an invasion of privacy. Reminder, the have not over-ruled the video game ruling. I don't see how this is different because it doesn't not include obscenity, you dunce.
>>108248969the human justices also use a chatbot, retard
>>108248969i trust ai more than any retard on /gi know for a fact ai isn't a pajeet or a kike from israel, for example.
>>108248948laws don't apply to the projects of the elite.We are in the age of might makes right. They have the might.haven't you noticed how absolutely nobody in the epstien files is being investigated and arrested in the U.S.?and the only protests that are happening are disruptions to removing illegals in the U.S. Obviously a distraction all of that shit is.
>>108248968>my last reply to you.Good fuck off back to your erotic roleplay with your AI partner, you goof.>>108248968>you, are one giant retard and when this isn't shot down in the courts i'm sure you will be honest and admit you were wrong (don't worry, i know you won't.)It will be shot down. This is the USA not the UK or whatever hellhole you live in.>>108248968>contiune to live rent free in your head canon.Continue to shill for internet censorship you POS.
They don't know people can modify code that runs on their own machine, do they?Thank fuck they're so fucking retarded. Like, really fucking retarded. Sub 70 IQ.
>>108248975>i know for a fact ai isn't a pajeet or a kike from israel, for example.Who do you think creates AI LLMs? Are you serious? That other users doesn't want anyone to sue to and knock this out of enforciblity so he's pretending like he's an attorney for the fucking state of California. Yeah, no, the US is not turning into a CCP surveillance state in the current SCOTUS.
>>108248983this is about capturing normies. The government fears masses. large numbers. They do not fear the 0.001% of the population that could resist.of course the killer for all of this would be that people do the verify and then continue to talk their shit on the internet but I think the actual goal is to be able to have back-door consequences for people.This information will be made available to corporations. So you said nigger faggot on 4chan? well you're fired now. Oh you don't support current thing? well you're fired...oh and we made it impossible for you to participate in society because payment processors and banks also black listed you personally.government will be like>oh its private company can't do shit man sorry.and maybe some government officials may say they disagree with that.But we all know they are actually on board with these agendas. The opposition is an illusion, a circus. the corps are the enforcement arm.
How is it constitutional to dictate what an operating system is allowed to do and what it's not allowed to do? What's stopping them from making a law saying every OS must block violent imagery or offensive words? Or that every OS must send screenshots of the user's web browsing activity to the police for review?
>>108248153My state has an ID/age requirement for porn so I just go to different sites
>>108249025>this is about capturing normiesNormies hate W11 and are beginning to switch to Linux.
>>108249037You still think the constitution matters?If the constitution mattered we'd be buying fully automatic guns in vending machines.it hasn't mattered since the civil war.its relevance was crushed entirely after WW2.What you are living in now is the point where the mask is slipping off entirely.>>108249077did you forget about phones? normies interact with the internet primarily through their phones.On top of that you think they're going to run to the edgelord distros or that this shit won't end up in the kernel?
>>108248590>CA couldn't ban violent video games, but they can enforce regulation with the ESRB. Same with films. Video players will have to support this and newer movies will have to support it.This will lead to further infantilization of the populace by pushing content creators to make everything rated E for Everyone (for games) or G for General Audiences (for movies). No more mature rated games or f-bombs in films now that part of the audience legally can't even view it.
>>108249037>How is it constitutional to dictate what an operating system is allowed to do and what it's not allowed to do?It's not. I got into huge argument about this with a shill for censorship in the other thread. Basically, the only exception the SCOTUS carved out for this kind of over-reach is for porn, so yeah, this will likely not survive legal scrutiny. I guess people were just too lazy to sue the state over this yet. It's time to do so.
>>108248771>its how the company "Persona" was operating to do the age verification for discordThat's nice for you. To ignore the fact it kinda serves you right for using discord...Now evidence that has any relation to the /tpoic in hand.>In what world do you live in that they won't make you provide a picture of your ID?This one. The one where they specified a numeric variable that the user sets sans verification.>If everything you mentioned was enough for them they wouldn't be trying this shit globally.In what way isn't it enough?Seriously. That's not a rhetorical question.You have literal jew firms like Akamai Technologies with sniffers on pretty much every backbone globally, cunts like cloudflare operating a global scale MiTM attack that neuters HTTPS on all the major 'services'. You take a shit and the accelerometer in your phone - which no app asks permission to access - picks up the vibrations. It's even better with speech..."They" have methods. Y'know who doesn't? Stupid dipshits that have no clue what they're doing.>You're also not seeing that this is the backdoor way into their digital ID project.And you're not seeing there's not really any mechanism upon which they can manifest their desires.>This will be used to track you far more closely.Okies. I'll bite.I allow them to pwn my OS and then I manually set my reported age to whatever the fuck I actually want it to report, as and when I want to report it....That assists tracking, how precisely?
>>108248771>Because this will be required to use your phone and now your phone is a far easier identifier of who you are and where you've been.I get my phone on contract. My card kinda tells them who I am. But lets pretend I just grabbed a random SIM off the shelf in the newsagents and topped up PAYG with cash.That phone pings base stations constantly. As it does so, it also reports reception strength. As previously mentioned, the physical location of these are known. You can use those pieces of information to do basic triganometry and narrow your target to two square meter. Casually.Everywhere you go with such a device is known. Even when you take the SIM out. As for switching it off... The unit itself kinda decides if it's on or not. Expect periodic wakeup chirps.>well this info will probably be available to large corps (for a price) and they'll track you.You mean like *right now* where I can buy your browsing history from screwgle, and via cookie data gain remarkably targetted insights to activities?>magine a world where your employer knows exactly where you've been and what you've been up to by simply searching your name.So... About now. >visit websites they don't like and buy something naughty like a gun? oh you're out.Don't mean to pop your bubble (well, actually, it's the whole point) but I live somewhere where firearm possession is tightly regulated.I was 14 when I bought my 1'st 9mm Baretta.How you intend on *stopping* me?>All the major linux distros willLaugh and shake their head sadly as they ignore it.The alternative?I fork it, and as I'm offering what people want, development will shift to there - the old will die - and we're back to the "fuck you" it should be.
>>108249090>that this shit won't end up in the kernel?That's even better. Just patch the image, reboot, and it's gone.
>>108248113MidnightBSD cucking criminals before they can commit crime
>>108248106THIS is how I know the Epstein Files drop is a psyop. These so-called "elites" are going to take their shit and dab it on us. it's simply the justification for unconscionable mass surveillance and eradication of privacy. Thanks Jeffrey Epstein.
>>108248741>>when an application is downloaded / launched developers must request this age bracket signal via a standard api.So not only do distros have to add government bullshit to their OS, but everyone who writes code has to include it too. A compsci student's first "Hello world" program is illegal because it doesn't ask for the user's age.
>>108248975>i know for a fact ai isn't a pajeet or a kike from israel, for example.Bruh
>>108249104>>108249111Ok you're not getting it. The point is to make it easier to share that info. Make it more apparent.Imagine that what you've said amounts to getting to the top of a 100 story building with just stairs. not many people will do that or be able to do that and if you're not interesting enough the few that would/could are not going to bother.What this age verification system is is the first step in installing an elevator to accomplish that same goal. now anyone can get to that top floor with the press of a button.Once its in place and they get their ID scans like they want that button will be exposed not just to government but to corporations.This means that enforcement of your behavior, what you think, what you say, and what you do will come at the societal/social level not the government level.You won't need to worry about the government coming after you and the government won't worry either. Because it is all the >private companies!that will keep you in line.>sorry we are not going to employ you because you went to a no no website according to our background check.>sorry you're fired.>sorry we can't open a bank account the system says you're a naughty boy.>sorry you can't be issued a credit card>sorry you can't sign up for this online service because your other online activity makes you a bad person.You will be effectively exiled from your country while still living in it.Does this sound familiar?It should.It's what they were trying to do with those "covid passports" not too long ago. Funny how everyone forgets these pilot programs and A B testing scenarios they put on us.Think beyond the here and now. Slippery slopes are real. You should be aware of this by now.
>>108249252Why would people want to participate in such a third-world society? At that point they should just leave the country, or go full OCB.
>>108248153I know "muh both sides" is a meme, but this really is a both sides issue. California is a left wing supermajority and has been for decades.
>>108249339there's no choice, countries like india are also adopting this stuff because they have no concept of freedom.third worlders have no concept of freedom because its low on the priority list, they have to put food on the table. its up to the first world to defend freedoms
california has to copy everything bad trump does because gavin newsom wanted to be leftist trump
>>108249362>indiaAnother third-world shithole. Why are you always thinking of shitholes?
>>108248106>can't use bsd in cai guess they forgot what bsd stands for lol
Isn't this literally the exact kind of problem the EFF exists for? What are they even doing?
>>108249461Not just bsd, LINUX and WINDOWSthat image is just like the first distro to bend the kneevideo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvP4cRTgFos
The bill doesn’t require photo ID, it’s just one of those drop down “enter your date of birth” things that everyone already lies on. Not that this isn’t concerning, but it’s not over, yet.
>>108249478>cuck reviewslol. Lmao even
>>108248113Web sites won't work without Digital ID. That's what eventually will happen. This is the first step
>>108248296There are, by a DC group you probably never heard ofhttps://netchoice.org
>>108249502LOL
I'm surprised such a stupid law passed in a state so dominated by big tech. It isn't a "major" obligation, from a Constitutional perspective, but it also isn't "necessary". There isn't a clear justification for this to be mandated across every OS producer (and "controller", whatever the fuck that means). As an opt-in approach, maybe even OS-supported, that parents can voluntarily install? Sure, why not, great idea. But forcing every device everywhere to burp out this little signal on demand? Readily classified as insane. I think throwing this out would be in line with Ashcroft v. ACLU for this reason.Paxton was a bad call by the Supes, but I don't think it really holds in this case. They gave the balance to the state's censorship angle in light of the fact that kids can access the Internet on tons of devices now and traditional parental blocking software isn't up to the task (iffy IMO, but I can see the point, at least). But 1043 is entirely limited to local applications, as in, on one device. While the obligation is much smaller here as well, this is still exactly the sort of scenario a standard parental software tool is designed for. And installing one wouldn't require a legal obligation of any kind. The only way I could see this as acceptable is if the OS part gets thrown out, and the law just makes app developers have to check for such an age bracket signal from something in the local account environment, whether sourced by the OS or something else. Which is still pretty dumb, because app developers that host age-sensitive material are basically already obligated and/or motivated to do stuff like that already.
>>108249252>The point is to make it easier to share that info.A user defined numerical variable...What makes you think it difficult to share data now, anon? This problem has been solved for *DECADES*.>imagine that what you've said amounts to getting to the top of a 100 story building with just stairs.Why should I? In no way is that analogy functionally equivical.>What this age verification system is Bullshit. Pure and undiluted bullshit.There is no mechanism upon which to enforce the producers of an operating system to conform - and more importantly, anyone who knows *how* to impliment this into an operating system can see that it's theater. Knowing this they simply not bother.>Once its in placeCasually paving over how it gets in place with no-one having any particular incentive to do it off their own back and no mechanism with which to enforce complience..>and they get their ID scans Evidence that the user set numerical variable can be described as an ID scan?
>>108249252>This means that enforcement of your behavior, what you think, what you say, and what you do will come at the societal/social level not the government level.The *only* enforcement of what I think, say, and do is myself. There have been a few to think otherwise over the fullness of time. Their number would include both the police and .gov. They've been consistently proven wrong.>You won't need to worry about the government coming after youNo. They need to worry of me.>and the government won't worry either. Because it is all the >private companies! that will keep you in line.Then it's a good thing that unlike you I haven't spent the last few decades cramming nails into a stick being built to beat me with, then, isn't it dipshit?>You will be effectively exiled from your country while still living in it.Being deported is on my bucket list...> Funny how everyone forgets these pilot programs and A B testing scenarios they put on us.No. I didn't forget. And just like then, I will ignore it and it simply will only apply to the stupid fucknuckles who want it to apply to them.
>>108248153you forgot the moral police from the left side, you direction brained twat.
>>108248173unironically yes, democrats are just slightly more to the left
>>108248729Especially when we're talking about having to give ID verification just to... go onto the flathub and download vim.
>>108249483The major compelled speech part is really that virtually any program has to be able to read the age signal.The onus is on the developers to make their hello world programs check your age. Just fucking insane.
>>108250002Everyone in this photo is a communist by 18th Century standards.
>>108250014>Especially when we're talking about having to give ID verificationWhere?I mean apart from the docile media memes ypu seem to think is a source of education. Where are they talking about ID verification for flathub??What method do you imagine exists for compelling flathub to ask for the ID?
>>108248106MidnightBSD does not contain Linux at all.But this is still disappointing that MidnightBSD chose to add non-free terms to their system.Free software must be free to run for any purpose anywhere, including desktop use in any country/state. Using a pushover license for your software will result in any nonfree terms being added at any time. Look at what happened with XFree86.I strongly suggest people take off MidnightBSD from their list of recommended OSes, until they reverse this decision.
>>108249563Why can't these lawsuits go any faster?The damage will be already dealt with. Just look at what SESTA-FOSTA's passage (thanks Trump, didn't know you LOVE nevertrumpers) caused?Not only it's a stepping stone of Section 230 being gutted, it made site go pussy and start dropping things that were tailored to adults and basement dwellers.In fact, this was caused the Tumblr mass exodus, since they straight up banned pornography because they couldn't clean up the CP spam any faster and feared that they'll get dropped by storefront immediately (never happened). Now all the refugees already liberated Xitter and Jewgrounds for the last 8 years, and is the reason why the latter is such a gen z shithole. (they already started demanding to remove art of questionably aged characters)
>>108250062>until they reverse this decision.Actually, anon, I think that's the "right" move.California want to be dipshits, then they need to protect themselves from californians. Naturally, anyone in cali what wants midnight will just get it anyway. It just stops being midnights fault they did - they said they couldn't.Nothing changes.
>>108250082MidnightBSD just gave themselves the power to terminate your license and sue you if they think you are using it in California. How is this not unjust?
>>108250101Go cry at the legislature.
>>108250101>power to terminate your license and sueHaving the power isn't quite the same as using it...You have any evidence they intend to do this? I agree lacking the opportunity is the opimum. But they tried that already.>How is this not unjust?How is it "just" to attempt to force them to modify their shit for your agenda? DESU. If that was me I woulda filtered at the country level. Solved.I'll concede it would be 'better' if they didn't have to adjust their terms. Would be better if the terms wasn't needed at all really... You got a way that's just as easy to enact (ie: few lines of text) which will offer them equal protection whilst not lining up nooses for heads.
>>108248124People keep claiming this, but I have serious doubts that they actually believe it's for the children. It's like when they push things for "national security" and then we just get legalized rights violations.
>>108249483Always keep in mind a lot of changes are middle steps. A simple example is phone verification, which has slowly been creeping into mandatory tier
>>108250168>which has slowly been creeping into mandatory tierFor anything that doesn't actually matter and if it vanished today wouldn't actually cause any problems tomorrow...
>>108248268Watch them slow march it. First it'll just be a number from the OS. Then they'll want something more complex after everyone has swallowed the honeyed pill. Eventually they'll want some government provided token that gets tracked everywhere on the net. Can't wait for anti-semitism laws to be put into place, but groups like straight whites are fair game. We get to experience the Bolshevik revolution with a massive computer network.
>>108249554Impossible to enforce, I'll just not visit those that ask for it.
>>108250239It's already being enforced, dummy. That's why porn sites are asking for age verification. When OSs have digital ID capability, they will force web sites to use it
>>108250206>Watch them slow march it.I'm very aware of the playbook. >First it'll just be a number from the OS.Casually paving over how this gets to be a thing when no-one actually has any incentive to impliment this off their own back and no mechanism exists to impose complience.>Eventually they'll want some government provided token that gets tracked everywhere on the net*IF* they wanted that they'd just issue everyone with a passport. Standardised .gov ID. As these things already have digital pages, and four of them are blank, one can hold a x.509 keypair. You already trust x.509. You use it every time you refresh pretty much any page on the web. Your bank trusts it to secure communications. Mechanisims to authenticate and authorise via X.509 have existed for deades.This is about something else.>We get to experienceExactly what you ask for.
>>108248117Enforced age verification. Another step closer to Digital ID.
>>108250278>Enforced age verificationBy typing in a number.That no-one checks.Assuming someone decides it'll be worth their bother to write the code for this, because there doesn't actually exist any way to force them - and even if someone does write it, there's no way to make it actually merge into production...And worst case. That does actually happen. Some cunt like me will fork it, put it back, and everyone will just use that.Up middle Fingah.
>>108250278Oh. Almost forgot...There also exists no mechanism by which they can compel *software writers* to make the request for the age verification from the OS...
>>108250266I ask to be left the fuck alone so I can live my life in peace. The only reason I make a stink is when people start seeking to screw with that. My primary social action is to avoid being a problem, so it really pisses me off that they keep pushing trash that embeds ever deeper into my life and home, compelling me to ignore my own nature. It never ends with these bribed fuckers.
>>108248113Slow burn-in. Same profusion and proliferation method that Microslop and Intel used with the unholy duo of TPM and UEFI Secure Boot in a not-so-secret frontroom deal to give Microshit the sole authority over operating system approval:UEFI Secure Boot and virtualization around 2009–2012, the comparison between Red Hat hardware certificate keys and Microsoftcenters on control, trust, and interoperability.Key Differences and Relationship Microsoft's Role as "Root of Trust": Microsoft acts as a Certificate Authority (CA) for UEFI Secure Boot. Hardware vendors (OEMs) typically ship computers with the Microsoft Public Key embedded in the firmware, meaning Microsoft decides which bootloaders are trusted by default. Red Hat’s Solution (Shim): To ensure Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) boots on this hardware, Red Hat developed a small, first-stage bootloader called "shim". This shim is signed by Microsoft's UEFI CA key, which allows it to pass the Secure Boot check, after which the shim verifies the actual RHEL bootloader using Red Hat’s own keys. 2011/2026 Certificate Expiration: The original Microsoft 2011 key used for signing shim expires in June 2026. Red Hat is transitioning to new 2023 certificates to ensure continued secure booting.
>>108248106Normalfags deserve everything they are about to get for being shitty parents that allow their kids online, so I welcome this. Fuck normies. They are truly human cattle that have the brains of goldfish. The Internet was NEVER designed for the normalfag>be normalfag parents>allow your children access to the Internet>those kids get exposed to porn & other degeneracy>Kids of Gen X'ers who grew up with social media turn into degenerate broccoli hair TikTok zoomer wiggers>they become porn addicts & major gooners before finishing high school>they have erectile dysfunction before they reach their 20s >they later identify as LGBTs, who are also major porn addicts>parents of those have kids have the shocked pikachu face>good parents take note then warn the government about the kids having access to adult content>Porn outlets now are requiring age verification where you have to upload your government ID just to access that goon materialYOU ARE HERE>OS distributors are now required to ask for you government ID just to install the OS>Digital ID becomes the law>VPN users are also required to upload their government IDs>Your government ID is now required just for you to access the web>Children forever barred from access to the web thanks to age verification>They start cracking down on dissents & wrongthinkers>They go after piracy again, this time with full force>Majority of normalfags drop out of the Internet>Alot of Internet sites shut down>Complete change in the Internet landscape>Limited access to certain sites, where the government in watching your every move>Literal North Korean style Internet where you are spied on every time you access it.>You are barred from other sites regardless
>>108250334Completely seperate scale and purpose...Y'all on these rant neglect one very important - yet glaringly obvious - detail.Your .gov already has this information. And really, a government *should* know who it's citizens are. This should be neither surprising or concerning.Your arguments about surveillance and tracking are between five and three decades too late commonly, with the freshest being two decades after the fact. Even a decade back when Snowden took a walk shit was stiched up tighter than a frog's arsehole...
>>108250398Sounds like all these kids need is adult guidance - as long as they're fresh.
>>108250333Your anger should be directed at normalfags, because this is entirely their doing. I've seen normalfag parents allow their kids to watch endless slop on tablets & smartphones without a care in the world, & the thing is, some of those kids are smart. The find ways of cracking the parental controls their parents put on their devices. Whenever I see those parents just let the kids do whatever on those screen, I scold, shame, & patronize the parents for being shitty dumb parents that allow their toddlers access to the Internet. You should do the same.We need to bring back shaming & bring back an honor system if we ever expect things to change.
>>108250325Left hand, meet right handThere are MANY mechanisms. One of them is foreign outsourcing. Hey remember that while part about feminists against Richard Stallman? Remember that whole scene in Act II when they got to the EFF and claimed persecution by White Male dominance? Hey remember that software supply-chain and chain-of-custody shit before and after COVID lockdowns? Bro lmaoThose are the mechanisms. Outsourcing to mercenaries and desperados is the primary mechanism, it takes many forms, wears many masksToday's mask is anti-pedophilia yesterday's mask was homosexuality and feminism Last year's mask was anti illegal immigrationYou think India IT investment from Britain and Intel is a one off, it's happening in a vacuum? No bro lmaoThey're literally using OUR MONEY, OUR LABOR, to hire foreign slaves to build the weapons against usInvest India! Oh, you won't build the age verification into kernel? Well f you then dude we'll paya wetback to merc you and your family on a free Trumo flight out to a resort in Xihuataneo, then we'll parts out the request on the form of abstracted piecemeal Fiver projects and hire 15 jeets and 30 chinks and 10 mogoloids to work on separate pieces and inch you out of production by layoffs and token deauthentication, well just hire a bunch of foreigners or dykes who will refuse to work with your wallet address or your developer keys and slowly shove you and your buddies off the kernel branchesYou already know that, bro, that's exactly how redhat went private just nowand then the whole Rocky Linux thing with CentOS come on dude quit frontin dude you're a fin genxer dude
So, I actually have a non-zero chance of being able to move to [spoiler]Japan or Thailand,[/spoiler]maybe other SE country, where would be wise to, go and escape whatever is happening in the west, I know the system will fall, hard at some point, but all I want is enjoy my nerd hobbies and occasional fap privately, and maybe a family but yeah not here, at all
>>108248106>Large push for identity verification>As need for cheap training data rapidly increasesHow transparent.
>>108250398Welp. Time to bust out those old 500' spools of cable we been hanging on to. Let's recable the Outternet, ninjaaaaa
>>108248117Petty tyrants in California have passed a law requiring your operating system to verify your age.
>>108248527even the Texas law that ended up making Dragon Ball sus to sell is not going to hold, dunno what the fuck they are thinking going this hardThey 100% want sweet money from data collection over anything, but man, vote these old farts out already, cant the US rally a independent guy in there at every level?
>>108250457>Sounds like all these kids need is adult guidanceThe problem isn't the kids. The problem is the parents of the kids. Those parents are just as grown children that never matured past high school, so of course the government has to play the adult for normalfag parents because they're too immature for the Internet themselves. 1 in 4 zoomers identify as LGBTs due to all the exposure from Internet porn brainrot. Porn brainrot is also the reason why tattoos & peircings are a "thing" with so many of them. I hate government spying on its people, but I hate degeneracy even more. If digital ID is what it will take to clean up the filth plaguing our modern society, then I welcome it. I have lived a decade without the Internet, so it won't affect me.
>>108250486>The problem is the parents of the kids.I don't wanna interact with the parents though.
>>108250409Looks good on paper. I'm Daniel Strickland, from Phoenix, Arizona. Believe me dude I'm not arguing for or against either privacy or surveillance. lmmfaoJust keep in mind that vishing and telemarketing phishing still exist. Tighter than a frog's arsehole but we can't stop the spoofing, yet? Time To Ken Thompson bug in t minus 10... 9... 8....
>>108250470Bro just touch grass man lmaoGo hit the weights faggot "err, err, i can't live with age verification, err, err, Japan, warrior schoolgirls and lolis, japan, errr,, errr" Believe me bro lmaoThere's enough lolis for everyone broGo hit the weights and calm down lmaoMfkr talking bout "I gotta go to Mars now" lmao
>>108248173Don't you get it? It's not about truth when it comes to the left; it's about accusing others of the shit they do in order to create confusion and optics opportunities.
>>108250459The friends I have either already know better, or learned from me. Their kids can actually read, get exercise, and don't act like programmed degenerates. I have also managed to deter a few from filling their homes with shitty IOT devices, but some of their wives are too tarded to be ripped from normie consumer world.
>>108250081>Why can't these lawsuits go any faster?>The damage will be already dealt withWhy are you asking questions when you already know the answer?
>>108250486Come. Join the big fun Porn Party In The Sky. We have snookies. <3
>>108248417But still a decade behind China.
>>108250521Why ask why? Who wants to know?
>>108250325>There also exists no mechanism by which they can compel *software writers* to-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debanking
>>108250515No.
>>108250520Yah but neuralink thoAnd that girl with the really pretty cybernetic forearmsNo IOT for your friends kids, thanks to you, they have to watch the local OF prostitute make $5000 week at 14 years old masturbating online for USA military on leave overseasDidn't you have a dad growing up? Don't you know anything about women bro? lmao
>>108250544Exactly. lolDude all the blockchain raids and wallet seizing too lol
>>108250463>One of them is foreign outsourcing.So don't employ US coders...>Outsourcing to mercenaries and desperados is the primary mechanismNow demonstrate the majority of software projects are at risk of this? As opposed to say, one or two large companies like screwgle, crapple, and micro$haft who are able to be lawfully compelled via several mechanism...>Last year's mask was anti illegal immigrationIn one third world country of easily led imbciles...>Oh, you won't build the age verification into kernel? Don't see it happenin' any time soon...And if they do... It's f'kin open source. Expect that to get forked and fucked over.> we'll paya wetback to merc you and your familyAny decent project considers the bus factor and already has protocol...>how redhat went private just now>and then the whole Rocky Linux thing with CentOS come on dude quit frontin dude you're a fin genxer dudeand then the whole Rocky Linux thing with CentOS come on dude quit frontin dude you're a fin genxer dudeYou do realise you've just provisioned evidence that completely destroys your entire premise?>>108250470Not sure which is 'wisest'. .jp famously racist towards foreigners... I hear good things of thai scenery, and jungles sound like an easy place to get lost, with lost of things to eat...>>108250486>The problem isn't the kids. The problem is the parents of the kids.And there was me thinkin' the problem was people trying to treat docile media memes as a form of education...
>>108250497I was with a group of friends when this event happened>Notice normalfag mother letting her 5 years old daughter watching slop on her mom's phone>"What is she watching on that phone?">It's TikTok slop of girls doing shitty dancing>I get angry & confront the mother>Me: "Why are you letting your child access the Internet on your phone?">Normalfag mother: "Oh it's no big deal, it's just to keep her quiet & I know what's she's watching">Me: "Lady, I don't see you watching what's she's watching.">Normalfag mother: "Oh it's no big deal.">Me: "She's literally watching garbage of girls shaking their asses on YOUR phone, & she's a toddler. Stop being a lazy parent, & get that phone away from her.">Normalfag mother takes the phone away from her daughter, & her & husband leave the party >"I win"This is the kind of "parenting" that these retarded millennial & Gen X'ers are doing with their kids. This is kind of parenting that normalfags are doing when they allow their kids online. I had bigger balls than her husband that day, & to this day I'm glad I shamed the mother. Quite frankly it pisses me off whenever I see some under 18 accessing slop on the web without the parent actually being their guidance. If you ever wondered why things are shit on the Internet, this is why. Shitty parents need to shamed again. I show no mercy to normalfags. I am ruthless with them, because I know they have the brains of lemmings. If we don't put our foot down on them, the government will.Bring back the shame.
The surveillance state must grow.
>>108248686imagine getting a letter for actually torrenting linux isos
>>108250500>Just keep in mind that vishing and telemarketing phishing still exist.>Tighter than a frog's arsehole but we can't stop the spoofing, yet?Spoofing is a network level design flaw. Fixing that will break backward compatibilty.The other criminal things you list... Zero incentive. A decent percentage is actually alphabet soups. Don't think N. Korea are the only ones using cybercrime for funding. Most of the time you can hand it all to conventional law enforcement wrapped in a pretty bow and fuckall happens... I'm sure it's just co-incidence...>>108250544So. You're trying to tell me that the state of colorado will debank me, in England, For refusing to write software that conforms to their provably futile bullshit?>>108250559>Dude all the blockchain raidsAsk me how I know you've zero clue from which you speak...>and wallet seizingKind of serves you right for allowing someone else control over your wallet really...
>>108250584You're never going to get invited again, and she's going to turn into a little whore anyway.Which is good.
>>108250604Pretty sure that's already happened...
>>108248106>we modified our license to exclude residents of californiaUnironically brilliant. All they did was modify a text file to get around the law. They probably didn't even do any IP rangebans. All they have to do is say Californians aren't allowed to use their operating system without actually preventing them from downloading it.
>>108250614>Oh noes the literal Whos won't invite me to their Whoville gatheringAs a Grinch, why the fuck should I care? I just don't want another generation of porn addicted LGBT identifying broccoli-hair tattooed TikTok wiggers walking around doing retarded dances. Anyways I didn't know them.
>>108250641Another anon raised valid concern that it allows, legally, to prosecute for use in cali...Personally, I don't think it's much of a concern. But agree it's 'better' if the opportunity wasn't available...That said, I think it's a good move, and can't see a 'better' one. Personally I would have saved time and done it at the country level.
>>108250649>why the fuck should I care?Children?
>>108250652Prosecute who? MidnightBSD? Their license says that Californians aren't allowed to use the OS. By using the OS the user agreed to the licensing agreement. So is the user gonna be prosecuted? How is Cali gonna figure out who downloaded it? Somehow track all the IP's accessing the download links? Grant warrants so the police can go into people's homes and make sure they're not using MidnightBSD? Force ISP's in Cali to block MidnightBSD's website? Put restrictions on VPN's when they figure out people learned how to get around the IP blocks?
>>108250652Depending on how the law is written wouldn't it only hold actual OS developers responsible and not citizens using it?
>>108250584lol everyone went away and laughed at you for being a little sperg
>>108250689And even so I can't imagine it'd be hard to just release an open source fork of a distro without said controls under a throwaway account. I would be highly shocked if they tried to prosecute someone over that.
>>108250687I only cared about stopping the little girl from watching the degeneracy on her mom's phone, & that was all that mattered to me. I could care less what normalfags think.
>>108250694Who's this everyone? Only the mother, her dad, & their daughter left. Everyone else stayed. I didn't make a scene. I literally scolded the mother for being a shitty parent. It worked.
>>108248106My performa 475 doesn't have this issue.
>>108250688>Prosecute who?Californians using midnight>So is the user gonna be prosecuted?In theory, legally the option exists.>Grant warrants so the police can go into people's homes and make sure they're not using MidnightBSD? Legit. Way shit headed over there it really wouldn't surprise me. ICE gonna have to do something now no-one actually wants to import. Gonna run outta people not already fleeing soon enough...Tho the ones with the legal ability to complain about a license breach would be the license holder.Again.I don't feel personally that this is much of a concern, but agree with the another anon that it would be 'better' if the opportunity wasn't granted.>>108250689>only hold actual OS developers responsibleHow so?Their license states you cannot use it in cali. They have no presence in cali. There's no enforcable mechanism.Citizens breaching the license terms, however, is unambigous legal ground.
>>108250555You must have a zoomer brain to talk like this, even ironically.
>>108250606It's not the state of Colorado that'll debank you. It's the banks who operate internationally lmao.
>>108248482>>108248502>>108248513fuck off LLM homo
>>108250817>It's the banks who operate internationally lmao.Luckily. There's a whole selection of mechanisms to deal with this issue...First I get the ombudsman to shove their foot so far up their arse they taste the sweat from the back of my kneecap for the next five years.Then we go to court. There's a good handfull of things that are real easy wins here. Absolute worst case to the disruption whilst this is occuring is I'll require to pay a few bills by proxy.Also: This is why you should bitcoin already.
>>108250817Oh. And when my legal options expire...Expect me.
>>108248106Death to the Antichrist.
>>108248117
>>108250864Y'know anon, I've seen literal raging homo that are less overdramatic than you.It's a user set numerical variable.That isn't checked for authenticity.Most OS vendors have no mechanism upon which they can be forced to complyEven fewer software creators have a mechanism upon which they can be forced to make software that requests this unauthenticated and easily spoofed data.
>>108250891why are you following mei don't even use a tripcode
>>108250911>why are you following meAm I following you anon?Or is it just a consequence of omnipresence?
>>108250583>.jp famously racist towards foreignersDepends where you are, just stay way from Tokyo for cheap property and Kyoto that's the conservative areaOsaka seems to be neat or further north if you like cold weather, I find it funny that Japanese flocked to Tokyo and foreigners want to escape big cities now
>>108248106cant you just network boot across state lines
>>108248297>Apple is forcing iPhone users to post their ID to use their phoneNot true, I just bought a new IPhone, they didn't even prompt me to sign into any account or so.
>>108250248Lolmy os will never have that shit.
>>108250614>>108250694>Oy vey, we shall shame the logical anomaly!
>>108250891The endless damage control for that first inch of ground. Fuck off ZOG bot.
>>108248248>Radio silence from EFF>No email, no article on the front page Jesus Christ...
>>108248185Yep this is how third world laws work. Everything is illegal so that they always have ammo to go after their political enemies and crush all dissent
>>108251035theyll make it so the websites won't work unless your OS is approved and at same time they can use it to track your online accounts
>>108251099and then, Asian websites gained a lot of traffic lel,
>>108248575That shit was so funny I hope it triggers rightoids all day. "Did ya see the way that old man shook his ass!? DISGUSTING!"I grow tired of the closeted fags attacking the open fags when as a straight man I saw worse things than either of them had shown me by the time I was 10.
>>108248106Digital equivalent of gun ownership laws. No, it won't be illegal but your free speech will be treated like it's going to kill someone. So what do they do? Make it as retarded and awkward as possible to assert, use, or implement your rights.
>>108248139>unironically posting Chibi
>>108248213Why not? Literally nothing fucking happened. No major arrests, almost no resignations, absolutely no activists parading in the streets and burning trash bins over this because no NGO or media is paying them to do so. The Epstein news cycle is nearing the completion and the goycattle are getting tired of it, looking for new shit to go down for entertainment.The elites could literally openly say that they are sacrificing children to Moloch and nothing would happen. In fact, they probably will, they are just gently introducing that idea.
This is why you should not use a pushover license. You allow your code to be adulterated into non-free versions like this.
>>108250002>california is actually center-right you chud>they aren't even rounding up white people into concentration campsTo sane people, California is as far left (on social issues) as you can get while still retaining a veneer of a liberal democracy. What would a "center-left" government look like to you? Force-transing children? Death sentence for saying the word "retarded"?
>>108251226>confusing leftism with idpolmoron
>>108248113>>108248447It’s less about constitutionality or enforcement and more about if they have the right people in place at the major OS’s to surrender monkey it.It doesn’t matter if the law is illegal if everyone important enough has already agreed to follow it.Stuff like this >>108248185 is just gravy, where they get to bully minor players with universal illegality traps once they are the odd duck out.
>>108251243Right, so how do you define leftism then?
>>108251180>No major arrests, almost no resignationsNot in burgerland.There have been some pretty major arrests and resignations in other countries.>absolutely no activists parading in the streets and burning trash bins over this because no NGO or media is paying them to do so.True, the ability of the populace to organize organically has been distorted to the point of atrophy by all the out of control astroturfing.A real shame.
>>108248113None. These sorts of laws are only created so that they can have an excuse to arrest someone whenever it's convenient.
>>108251046I just like children exploring their sexuality.
>>108248195same in spain, they want to ban all social media to under 16 yo. also they want to block/ban twitter since they cant shutdown the company (yeah retarded goverment i know)seems its not enough with laliga being able to nuke internet access everytime there is a fucking footbal match
So it's nothing more than OS-level "I'm 18+, I pinky swear" and it's going to replace "please upload your ID and video of your face to Tel-Aviv based company to prove your age" prompts, and the companies will be allowed to treat the "I'm 18+ I promise" as reliable, because I clicked the button during OS setup instead of on their app.
>>108251297We get it, you're Jewish.
>>108251010>cant you just network boot across state linesStops the license infringer being in cali, how?>>108251059>The endless damage control for that first inch of groundWhat inch?Functionally, a variable set by the user and with no mechanism of authentication is useless. Anyone who *can* put this into an OS will see that.Knowing that. Why would they bother wasting their time? There's no mechanism upon which they can be compelled to code this.Lets pretend someone does waste their time, and submits it. There's no mechanism upon which to force the distro maintainer to push the patch to production.Lets pretend someone does write the code. Lets pretend someone is f'kin dense enough to push the code to production.I fork it. I take out the bullshit and I put the OS for everyone to reach. As that's what people actually want, all development will switch to my fork and we're back where we started: Up Middle Finger.>Fuck off ZOG bot.How about you pull your forskin over your head - if indeed you have any - and fuck some sense into yourself?>>108251099>theyll make it so the websitesAnd?Can you point at something that if it vanished today would cause a problem tomorrow?That spiel about forkin the OS? You can do that with sites anon. Mebbe not as simple on most, but pretty much all of the problems was solved in the 90's. There's mature tech to reliably deploy. As long as you avoid deploying it in some third world country like US you should be fine...
>>108251152>Digital equivalent of gun ownership laws. It's more like asking gun manufacturers to leaflet thru your letterbox asking you to write how many guns you got. But no-one gonna check. You can change this at any time. No-one'll check that either. No authority exists to enforce 99% of anyone to actually ask to see that number, and when they do you can fuzz it to an aproximation of 'many'.Any gun manf who doesn't want to send a leaflet just won't be selling them gun in cali. People in cali will just buy the gun anyway, and not tell the manf.None issue.>>108251296>These sorts of laws are only created so that they can have an excuse to arrest someone whenever it's convenient.Anon. What makes you think there's not literally hundreds of years of excuses to arrest you written down?Especially with some o the more osbure law that don't get removed over time, there's a lotta infractions.
>>108251514>What makes you think there's not literally hundreds of years of excuses to arrest you written down?Never said that.
>>108251501Yes, just continue to diminish what will get done. Even a stupid monkey could see this pattern after this many times. They say just the tip, and then they ram the whole thing in right after claiming we were crazy for thinking it would be something else. Now then, don't you have some sacrifices to make to Moloch or something? Those kids aren't going to burn themselves.
>>108251521As an age detection mechanism, it's incredibly lacking. Trivial to bypass for a toddler.Clearly the goal isn't actually age detection.Luckily, it's a total non-issue as, open source to the rescue. Stop me.However, I doubt it's just to arrest folk. They got ways n means fo that. Some places can screech "terrorism" and you're extraordinarily renditioned without any due process... And many much more subtle tricks...
>>108251531>just continue to diminish what will get doneNothing.>They say just the tip, and then they ram the whole thing inJust think. If you hadn't spent the last two decades letting that happen, they might not be trying that now.But this is definitely a 'you' scale problem. My OS won't be having this shit in it. If *you* want to bend over and take it. Well. That's on you...>don't you have some sacrifices to make to Moloch or something?Naw, It's more fun taking the piss out of the melodramatic retards with disconnects from reality.
>>108248741The problem is it gets its foot in the door to spy. Easier to boil the frogs slowly than to crank the heat up right away.
>>108251565Your arguments are sad. No more attention for you, kike boy.
>>108248410kek.>IRL meetup >HAM radio>BBS>Internet>www.>web 2.0>Web3>BBS>Smoke signals>IRL meetupmy how the turn tables
>>108251582Yeah. Logic and evidence is such a sad thing to lean on ...>>108251575>The problem is it gets its foot in the door to spyWhat leads you to believe mechanisms for this are not already heavily in place?Via 'lawful' measures, like the backdoors in telecoms equipment intended for Akamai Technologies to rape dry, currently being abuse by SaltTyphoon and Cloudflare performing global MiTM on most major 'services'.And less lawfull measures, like forcibly intruding on systems, implanting malware - microsoft update spread stuxnet across most of the planet to hit one airgapped machine in iran, remote listening devices etc Most carry one in their pocket...
>Intel management engine uses Minix>Doesn’t have age verification.Um @governor_newsome? We got a naughty rule breaker over here.
>>108251624Now.. That will be funny to watch enforced.And it's not even the tip of the iceberg for how this won't work.
>it's not enforceable!I can't cope like this anymore. The entire world is pushing this digital ID bullshit. They'll find a way, and even if they don't, they'll force it on you some other way. I'm tired, /g/. I'm so fucking tired. I don't know what to do anymore.
Time has come. Don't wait any longer.
>>108251658>I don't know what to do anymore.I've got a hammer?>they'll force it on you some other way. They'll force it on *you*.I'm not a faggot. They have no mechanism with which to compel me.
>>108251688>I've got a hammer?Proud of you.>They have no mechanism with which to compel me.They will.
>>108251449I wish.
>>108248153Anon these fa/g/s are cucked into politics so bad you can't say truthful things like this without them sperging out. It's like looking at an abandoned house, pointing out the siding is rotting, and people screeching "NOOOOO THE WINDOWS ARE SMASHED IN YOU RETARD CANT YOU SEE!?"Unless you're in it for the You's and trolling, don't bother attempting to correct 4nigger.org posters of anything realistic.
>>108251226>Communist regimes exist>"California is far left"Faggot /pol/ster is lost. Go home.
>>108251549>As an age detection mechanism, it's incredibly lacking. Trivial to bypass for a toddler.In the current form, it's good for parental controls, not for state controls.
>>108248686Yes. Have an archive of isos at the very least.
>>108250398>Majority of normalfags drop out of the Internetlmao complete and utter fantasy. Normalfags will scan their face to keep the instagram shorts and youtube.
>>108248410Domain registrars are only a convention. You need the IP of a server to even get bootstrapped into their system. Just set a 'pirate' DNS server up and you can serve anything you want to everyone. You'd have to be trusted since you can basically MITM everyone, so you probably want to use NOT DNS but something where the hostnames are actually cryptographically verified as legit.
>>108248297Based Gaben
>>108248153Britain is trying to ban it and they're center left if we're being generous. There are similar restrictions imposed by other left wing european countries. It's not just a red state or right wing conservative thing. Both sides are trying to take your rights away and assert total control.
>>108248139>ChibiReviews
>>108251099Have you read what i wrote?I will simply not use websites that require it.And they can't force every website dev to comply lmao.
>>108248750yeah and you are delusional if this isn't obvious to you. Especially in the US where the head of prosecution is a political appointee, this is the expected outcome. Whether they use bullshit laws like this or "novel legal theory" doesn't matter.They literally just did this with Trump, trying to get him by any means possible
>>108248113For now, none, but as these types of laws become more numerous, it will become enforceable, e.g. through making it a crime to download or distribute software that does not implement age verification.>>108251813>as far left (on social issues) as you can get while still retaining a veneer of a liberal democracyLearn to read. Also, daily reminder that you will never be a woman.
>>108248106ohhhnoooo ill have to use my comfy makerphone 2.0 and laugh at you while I chat with my pals on my BBS through my Commodore 64 Ultimate ahhh send help im too comfy over here
>>108251669I did not know about this. Thank you I will take a look into it.
>>108248106>dead project revived to vomit fear mongering drivel100% legit, they swear.
>big tech buy politicians to lobby for age verification>since they're closed source and centralised they can rollout this feature relatively quick>they get to kill two birds with one stone, stiffle linux adoption on the desktop and get even more information on the user to sell to advertiserswhy is america like this? they're the most evil people on earth
>>108252753>I chat with my pals
>>108251119Will these "asian web sites" have essential services like DMV, SS, Medical (hospitals), banking, and employment?
>>108252131Dear God you're dumb. Even if you don't work for a living, the gibs will be firewalled, also.
>>108252636>"As">Thinks this shifts the context and invalidates me shitting on people thinking Cali is far left both respectively to American politics and the entire political spectrum>Preemptive tranny insult>>>/pol/
>>108250750It's certainly not criminal. It would be civil, and how would the os know unless it's collecting telemetry, and even then, what if the user is just routing network traffic through Cali and isn't actually there?
108248153>Right-wing>CaliforniaYou're the dumbest cunt that ever existed.No (you) for you.
>>108251624doesn't provide an "app store" so doesn't count
>>108253646This started after there was a push for age verification on porn sites anon. Earlier pushes failed.
>>108253500Those already require you to introduce your real data. The age layer is meaningless and a digital ID would be a sidegrade
>>108253746>Just use your social security number for everything, bro. There are no security issues, bro. This has never been abused in the past, broHoly retardation
>>108248741Gee i wonder how this "signal" is generated, it would be a shame if it required remote attestation or something.....
>>108248106>exclude residents from Commiefornia from using MidnightBSDOH NO!*download as if from another state, install, then set back to Commiefornia after*...Anyway...>>108248113Use case for Enforcement?
>>108248117/r/Boomers being fools. Essentially.The faster they and Gen X are turned into Onions Green, the better for technology.
>>108248106Anon it says BSD right in the pic lol
>>108248106So unironically what do we do? Just switch to Linux? I heard they're doing this with phones too on Apple and Android. Should we unironically go back to flip phones?Are we going back to 2000's internet? Surely there is a way to escape what the internet has become aside from literally going outside, right?
>>108248106Linux is just a kernel, not an OS. It is not subject to the California Law.
>>108248248they're part of the club
>>108251514they can easily do it since everyone uses the same 5 apps now
>>108248106Just to think less than a year ago, you guys were telling me Cyberdecks were retarded.Imagine In a few years time, people carrying around cyberdecks with portable dvd drives.>CD demand goes up>physical ownership of games comes back>people use CD's for everything from emails to movies>everyone even attaches HAM radios to cyberdecks, because owning a phone requires age verification
>>108254179Naw, _this_ world doesn't have a future, homie. The end is nigh.
>>108251708>Proud of you.These isn't high value items anon. Even more evidence you might actually want to borrow it.>They will.And which mechanism will 'they' use to achieve this?>>108251898>it's good for parental controls, not for state controls.It's not even particular good for that.To assume for the least effort ¼assed parenting, and that was before tyrone went for a pack o ciggies, Then the kid itself gonna be settin' it...Supervisin' the kid gonna hold it in place - but if you're actually supervising the little fucker, why do you need the age detection again?>>108251956>Normalfags will scan their face to keep the instagram shorts and youtube.Whilst still oblivious to none of that is the internet. It just uses the internet for transport. And if those things sitting on top of the internet vanished today, nothing bad will happen tomorrow.
>>108252753>I chat with my pals on my BBS through my Commodore 64Love the spirit anon. Really do. But you gonna find 64k restrictive... Amiga workbench and amidos was funcitonal as fuck in terms of OS from recollect. From the days of 720k floppies, the smallest HD you can find to buy will fit all there ever was, and leave room for more. RAM upgrades are wise, I seem to recall some trapdoor thing, and I've seen some project producing something that crams into an extension port giving the amiga a modern CPU, which is a slight upgrade from the 8Mhz 68000...>>108253510>the gibs will be firewalled, also.Do you not think they have better tools in place to protect this already?Or do you genuinely imagine such to be replaced with a user-set fuzzy age bracket?>>108253617>and how would the os knowTelemetry is the first that comes to mind. That would yield more data than the leaving IP. But personally, I'd be more concerned with *why* they would want to know. Because, as previously mentioned, I really don't see this being much of a real world issue. Even tho experience dictates a theoretical issue needs stamping on before it becomes a real issue, this is for the 'ignore' pile. >>108253690Neither does linux.And whilst we're feeling pedantic - what about the OS in the car? You gonna be typin' you age into that? What about the OS in the kettle? Washing machine?
>>108254251It has nothing to do with age you dumb fuck
>>108253780>Use case for Enforcement?Revenue extraction>>108253837>So unironically what do we do? Just switch to Linux? Yes.Even if somehow someone wastes their time with coding it, it's open source and you can just f'kin remove it.>Should we unironically go back to flip phones?Really, you shouldn't have let them get that far in the first place.Ask yourself, why is it that you have significantly less control over the hand computer.>Are we going back to 2000's internet?You'll not be that lucky. At best you can hope for:What you've caused it to become will remain. The dipshits that have spent the last few decades bending over and taking it will - shock and horror - bend over and take it.The few staunch holdouts have a few hundred if that options run between them, with maybe three or four gathering more than a hundred users at any one time on a global scale. Expect frequent targetting and disruptions.>Surely there is a way to escape what the internet has become aside from literally going outside, right?Did you try not making it that to begin with?>>108253953>they can easily do it since everyone uses the same 5 apps now"It" being?Sry, but there's a few things in the referenced that could be 'it'. But I'll offer it serves 'em right for using them five (cr)apps. I'll go out on a limb and suggest them five (cr)apps are all data-rapey, and will suggest at least two should be classified as malware. Gonna use that shit, you deserve what happens next.>>108254179>portable dvd drives.I liked what you was bringin' up to there. Optical fragile as shit, really aint good for "portable".But good news. You can fit dozens of DVD onto a MicroSD card, that *is* very portable (if easily lost, but get a caddy to keep 'em safe) and I'll put my money on will hold the data longer than a DVD...
>>108254265>It has nothing to do with ageWhat you got to back that up?I don't disagree with you any. Because if this *was* about age, then there would be some mechanism to authenticate the age...Functionally, it's equivical to reducing police powers to asking "have you been naughty" and giving them no recourse if responded "no". It's pure theater. The only thing I can offer for the "why" is to see if people bend over and take it. I can't speak for you, and looking at the state of the internet that's unwise, but they've already lost that bet here.
>>108248124*pedoboomers in "government" doing their babylonian plans because who knows
>>108249483This is step 1, retard. They will then require ID once using what you just stated as an excuse.>everyone is lying about it so now we need to verify IDs!
>>108248161and this is probably a PRS strategy after the pedomafia leakage, probably orchestrated by themselves
>>108254358>This is step 1, retardNow evidence step 1 is *possible* to enforce. Assuming ofc, you don't just drop your troursers and bend over. Then evidence how step 2 actually works as a mechanism. Bear in mind, for step one, you'll need to have OS level age verification on all the OS. Your computer. If that's an intel, then you'll need to age verify the Intel Management Engine - that's minix - Your phone. Your washing machine. Your kettle. Your car. Your TV. Etc Etc.This shit has *not* been thought through and there is f'kin holes everywhere. Pushed at the state level there's no enforcement mechanism to anything outside of the state. It's *very* easily circumvented. It's *very* eaily spoofed. It's just theater.>everyone is lying about it Um. Whut?
>>108254320Jesus Christ, you really can't see the forest from the trees.The purpose of this push for "age verification" is a PC way to push through an authentication layer. That's it. Once they have that layer, then comes the mission creep. This digital ID shit has been going on for over a decade, but people like you have been completely asleep and now the push, due to AI data scrapers and advertisers, is absolutely FRANTIC and people like you are like idiot fudd gown owners saying "WILL NOT COMPLY" like anybody gives a shit about your ideology as they shoot you in the face.Sites are already complying with age verification. This is already happening. The state mandates are in place and THEY WORK!Operating systems WILL have the infrastructure for online ID made. The corporate sponsors of linux distributions WILL fund this.The only step left is to turn the key and you're on a global plantation
>>108254426>Pushed at the state level there's no enforcement mechanism to anything outside of the state.Anon, do you know why every website asks you if your 13? That's not a national law, that's a Californian law.
>>108254453>The purpose of this push for "age verification" is a PC way to push through an authentication layerThis already exists. Try again.>then comes the mission creepThe existing layer has that already. >This digital ID shit has been going on for over a decadeYou got a driver license anon?That's got your age on it. It's stored digitally. Why didn't you cry about that?>but people like you havebeen laughing at all the bending over and taking it you've done over the last two decades.>due to AI data scrapers and advertisersThis is not the reason. These are both solved problems. In fact. The advertisers are fueling most of the invasive metrification.>like anybody gives a shit about your ideology as they shoot you in the face.Then they had *better* be sure they're ready to deal with the deadman triggers.>Sites are already complying with age verification.Where?Let me guess. Nowhere that actually matters, and if it disappeared today wouldn't cause a problem tomorrow.Stop using it and let it die?Solved.>The state mandates are in place and THEY WORK!Do they tho?What mechanism does the state of california have to enforce it's will on me, in England?>The corporate sponsors of linux distributions WILL fund this.I will fork it. Remove it. Put it back up for everyone else to enjoy.Up. Middle. Finger.>The only step left is to turn the key and you're on a global plantationSeriously you stupid fucknuckle, where the fuck do you think you grew up?You tell the slaves they are free then you can charge them for your upkeep. You can make the really simple ones celebrate it every year.
>>108254560>still talking about agefucking moron
>>108254484>Anon, do you know why every website asks you if your 13?No?I've not been to a single website that asks if I'm 13.A few have asked if I'm 18 or 21. But the content on these is age restricted. To those ages.>That's not a national law, that's a Californian law.And?If I serve a site I either stop serving content cali, US entirely to save time, or issue challenge on cali geofence border.What's your point?
>>108254578So give me something better. Something tangible. I can tell you it aint about age.Best I have got is it's to see if people bend over for it. They've already lost here.So now it's on how much of a faggot you are as to if this is a thing tomorrow, isn't it?
>>108254604>tomorrowMan, you really can't see beyond your own nose
>>108253510>the gibsIdgaf and seriously you should feel sorry for being such a pushover.I will simply not comply.
>>108254627DMV requires Digital ID>I will not driveBanks require Digital ID>I will not use moneyFood banks require Digital ID>ACK!
>>108253737This. Porn & shitty normalfag parenting is what started the age verification, & you can bet it's not gonna stop at porn. You gotta hand it to normies, they love ruining good things.
>>108248113We should have never been nice to the normalfags. They are fucking cattle.
>>108253837>Are we going back to 2000's internet?I wish.
>>108254620>Man, you really can't see beyond your own noseExplaining the meticulous planning extending decades...>>108254631lol.Is now the time to tell you the DMV actually stores the data digitally? That card? That's mostly for your benefit. >>108254673>We should have never been nice to the normalfags.I was never nice to the normalfags. In fact, the only people that have ever accused me of being nice really don't know me very well.Many moons ago, I began work in IT, and on t'first day I picked up a phone that rang, and instantly solved the user's problem.I was admonished, and directed to BOFH as learning materials....
>>108254899>storing data digitally is digital IDNow you're just being a shill>it's for your benefit, goy!Yup. 100% shill confirmed
>>108248117Musk bought twitterMusk said he wont censor social media anymoreGovernments and Institutional elites boycott his siteWEF organized advertiser boycottMusk sues WEFWEF dismantles their GARM ad agencyTrump wins electionCalifornia passes social media censorship lawsEU pass social media censorship lawsAustralia pass social media censorship lawsUK pass social media censorship lawsCalifornia wants more censorship lawsCalifornia pass OS level censorship laws
>>1082546311. What is crypto2. Plenty of ways to live without money3. I'll die on this hill if i must.You are a pussy
>>108255073Who is paying you in crypto?
>>108248106I'm going to start getting used to not using 4chan now instead of waiting until 2027. I need to mentally prepare myself. I might remove the wifi card from my PC and wait for the dust to settle in January just in case this update has some unforeseen security ramifications.
>>108255038>Now you're just being a shillNo. I'm simply pointing out the inconsistency to which you apply your argument.>it's for your benefit, goy!And I've said this, where, precisely?Try to use my own words. Not the shit you make up as you go along to reinforce your delusional bubble.>Yup. 100% shill confirmedWhen you don't look for evidence outside of your delusional bubble, you will only ever find that which you expect to find. Ask me how I know you expected to find that before you started.>>108255060>Musk bought twitterGotta love how you think that's a variable that actually matters.>>108255073>You are a pussyThat's what I've been sayin...>>108255086Anyone I demand them to.You can do that when you're writing the invoices. If you offer a discount via that over cash it'll provide more incentive.
>>108255470>Gotta love how you think that's a variable that actually matters.The only variable that ripped the face off of authoritarians. You trannies have castrated not just your penis but also your brain
>>108248106the idea is fine (generic non-trackable signal that says the user's age and websites have to respect it) but the execution is shitthe bill expects you to "use best effort and technology available" to do the age verification and to change the age when there is "evidence" pointing towards otherwise.Very vague wording that suggests they want you to use real life IDs instead of just a date of birth ask, and to continuously try to datamine the user's age instead of respecting what the user gave it.If it was literally just a prompt at device setup with a date of birth entry it would be a good change, since then sites would no longer have an excuse to ask for your ID and would keep little timmy off of social media if the parents set up his computer with the right settings. Unfortunately this is not what this bill is.
>>108255507>that ripped the face off of authoritariansAs demonstrated by?Instantly bending over and playing their games?>You trannies have castrated not just your penis but also your brainBut at least I *have* a penis. You're just an impotent dickless faggot unable to escape the homoerotic circlejerk you tried your hardest to be a part of...
>>108255661As demonstrated by the thread topic. You commie troons wanted mass censorship from the gov and now you're pretending its otherwise.You will NEVER be a woman.
>>108255691>You commie troons wanted mass censorship from the govDid I now?Is now the time to point out that out of either of us, it'll be you that's spend the last two decades bending over and taking whatever shit they shovel?Twenty years later when I'm caused to step back into "society" I buy a phone and I cannot believe you stupid fucknuckles allowed this bullshit to become normality. Well. I can believe it, because it's there, and the behaviours of every stupid fucknuckle like yourself I see has been continually re-enforcing the paradigm. I'm not the one that thought docile media was a good idea and then ran around seeing how many nails I can cram into the stick being used to beat me with. I'm not the one that tollerated the adverts giving rise to the steadily more invasive metrification in a desperate push to try and extract something from nothing.I can continue if you like? There's literally decades to work through with how you called this on yourself.>You will NEVER be a woman.Damn f'kin straight. Unlike you, not everyone desperately wants to be one. I'm happy I'm not a wimmins. I'd likely appreciate wimmins a lot less if I was.
