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"Of course it runs NetBSD!" edition

Ask your BSD-related questions here, discuss tips and tricks, share
scripts, and everything in between.

>Main operating systems
https://www.openbsd.org
https://www.freebsd.org
https://www.netbsd.org
https://www.dragonflybsd.org

>Updates and advisories
https://www.undeadly.org
https://www.freebsd.org/security/notices/
https://www.netbsd.org/changes/
https://www.dragonflydigest.com

>Ports
https://www.openports.pl
https://www.freshports.org
https://pkgsrc.se/
https://github.com/DragonFlyBSD/DPorts

>Documentation
https://www.openbsd.org/faq/
https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/
https://www.netbsd.org/docs/
https://www.dragonflybsd.org/docs/

>News
Announcing NetBSD 11.0 RC1
https://www.netbsd.org/releases/formal-11/NetBSD-11.0.html
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What's the point of GhostBSD when FreeBSD with KDE is just as user friendly?
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>>108251530
love this meme
thnx for helping gatekeep our chad licensed os
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>>108251538
when has the BSD license ever prevented you from doing something?
>inb4 it's the principlerinoooo
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>>108251360
pufferfish wit da big ass lip
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does rc have any process supervision abilities
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>>108251752
turn on sshd and tell me ur ip address
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>>108251607
>>108251360
based

>>108251867
>freedom is cucked
nope
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>>108251922
>>>108251867
>>freedom is cucked
>nope
Do not replay to this bro, it is either bot or jeet, probably jeet since those are cheaper to run.
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Is it true that netBSD can be installed on almost anything? Could you have a netBSD phone?
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Am I really going to fuck my freebsd install installing stuff off ports and pkg? I'd quite like to use calibre and a few other bits.
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>>108252117
It runs on toasters.
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>>108252117
>The Danger Hiptop / T-Mobile Sidekick LX 2009 mobile phone runs on a NetBSD kernel.
https://www.netbsd.org/gallery/products.html#t-mobile-sidekick
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>>108251772
why
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>>108251561
It prevents me from using MidnightBSD in California as a desktop OS.
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>>108252250
>all made possible my Cuck License cuckery
Fix your typo, retard.
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>>108251360
Hi BSDrothers. I think I'll install *BSD on my Thinkpad soon.
t. your Gnu/Linux bro
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>>108251360
You WILL eat ze /BUG/s
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>BSD Users Group
More like a duo.
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>>108253576
OpenBSD works perfectly on Thinkpads, btw.
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General question:
Is anyone waiting for the Snapdragon 2nd gen SoC's to install BSD on it.
There is literally not a single video on the performance, usability or a tutorial how to install.
Nothing, Nichts, Nada
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>>108251360
cuck license
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>>108251499
PCBSD died for our sins so it was pretty much the single LiveCD available for BSDs with NomadBSD.
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Does anyone here have any experience running wine-proton on NetBSD? Can you pretty much run everything like on Linux?
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>>108251752
I feel like you should look at the man page for daemon(8) - it's what actually runs a number of third-party processes when they are started by rc

>>108252134
I am not sure I understand the question, freebsd pretty much requires packages/ports to be installed to accomplish much of anything
using the built-in ports system or the pkg tool is preferred over whatever arcane bespoke nonsense a developer would have you curl into a root shell
it is very easy to remove a port / package if you determine it is unnecessary

>>108252154
I saw that in person
the context of it is lost on the youth, with the proliferation of small single board computers

>>108256229
arm devices are such delicate and unique flowers, every one has some unique bit of hardware and thus needs bespoke adjustments

>>108259658
that shit had a ton of bespoke trash that meant it deviated from freebsd too much to gain wider adoption and then it moved under the ixsystems umbrella and failed entirely
fuck ixsystems for abandoning bsd
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>>108260865
FreeBSD has better proton support.
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>>108260934
I don't want to use FreeBSD
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>>108260865
I can only speak to experience in freebsd
I got steam working and was able to play a couple games under 13 (and I think 14) ok ish but that was with steam installed as windows under the proton wrapper mizuma and with an nvidia card using their drivers

I was unable to replicate it under 15 when I last tried, one of these days I will give it another shot
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>>108260943
OK.
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What's it gonna take for you to drive one of these BSD babies today?
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>>108263136
$10k.
I'm not a loser but I'll roleplay one for the money.
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>>108260913
>that shit had a ton of bespoke trash that meant it deviated from freebsd too much to gain wider adoption and then it moved under the ixsystems umbrella and failed entirely
>fuck ixsystems for abandoning bsd
I agree, but it was the most popular way to test it. It is absurd for many that anyone would bet on Gnome of all projects to be the pillar for future development considering everything they do.
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>>108264796
MidnightBSD, NomadBSD and GhostBSD are easy to use and automate a lot of things for newbies.
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>>108251360
why the FUCK does every bsd thread need to have some cunt talking about "cuck license" don't like it then don't use it.
Linux is unusable bloat dogshit and windows is dogshit too. FreeBSD is my comfy refuge and I heard they were adding rust? I remember once an anon post a rust "ls" implementation and it was like 20 fucking lines of code. FOR AN LS
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>>108265418
I meant 20K
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>>108265418
netbsd and openbsd are better than linux
netbsd has zfs and lvm from linux if you'd like to try that
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>>108266571
s/linux/freebsd/
freebsd is too much like linux.
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>>108251360
should I use BSD on desktop
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Basedsisters, I just installed FreeBSD 14.3 with KDE Plasma on an Intel MacBook and the wifi won't work. But besides that, I'm having a bit of fun playing around with GNUStep. I like being able to write and compile objective c programs using LLVM which can run on both systems. It's interesting to abstract away the xcode build systems and write your own makefiles for obj c apps.
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>>108266669
Obj-C via GNUStep is pretty cool
you can mix it freely with C code but don't have to deal with C's obnoxious null-terminated "strings" as much
also, why 14.3 if it's a recent installation? 15.0 came into production almost 3 months ago
also, post your wifi card info
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>>108260913
Cool. I'm misreading the page then. I read it as "use either pkg OR ports but not both".

Same way AUR can cause potential problems on an Arch system.
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bsd lost because csh / tcsh lost
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>>108266642
yes
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>>108268035
packages are built using ports; if I am using ports (to get a feature that is not enabled by default) I will pkg install all the dependencies to shorten the build time almost always

>>108268059
yeah, I set my shells back on new freebsd installs; I just sort of live with whatever openbsd defaults to though
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>>108268334
>whatever openbsd defaults to though
/bin/ksh
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>>108271400
we have wedges now
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>>108271497
nice. how's the performance?
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>>108271497
dafuq is a wedge?
googling wasn't especially helpful
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>>108251360
cool thred
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>>108273987
you need to get better at searching; from what I gathered by reading a page talking about it:
for a gpt disk, instead of a single partition that is then split by disklabel (like openbsd does) netbsd will make multiple partitions that then appear like a partition that was split via disklabel
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>>108273987
The cryptographic device driver -- cgd(4) -- did not introduce any performance penalty for me. A cgd disk is capable of using either a BSD disklabel or a GUID partition table as the verification method; my current installation is using the latter.
>>108273987
https://mail-index.netbsd.org/current-users/2006/09/04/0005.html
>Wedges are parts of a disk. They do not have partitions - for example
>on this machine I'm typing this on I have /dev/dk0 and /dev/dk1 -
>but there is no /dev/dk0a.
>But wedges have no inherent corelation to some on-disk partition format,
>like the disklabel which the old partition code used. Lots of magic/evil
>code will disapear from the kernel once the wedge conversion is complete.
In other words, wedges are partitions.
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>>108274658
interesting
wedges sound like a useful abstraction
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>>108274918
That's the goal of wedges: to provide a hardware abstraction independent of the architecture. The BSD disklabel is still supported because compatibility is also important for NetBSD.



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