>goes to the moon with less than 4kb ram>a million times more is necessary to display web pages
>>108253830either someone else transported foil and sticks there or did not happen
>>108253859Either we are incredibly wasteful nowadays, or it didn't happen
>>108253830Funny how two hours ago my whole 16 GB of RAM got to 100%, whole OS freezes and I had to force shutdown. All because I opened 30 Twitch clips tabs to go through. For some reason Linux thinks it is better to trash whole session instead of just the latest process. Also why the fuck developers can't just prioritize keeping kernel and GUI alive? Clearly nobody has created anything good because otherwise it would be default.It is weird how you can have this much RAM and even being able to crash and freeze whole OS just by opening one LLM, one VM, one Minecraft jar or open 20-40 links with ctrl.
>>108253919idk whenever i ran out of ram it would just crash the process eating up all the ram
>>108253919Browsers is because they have no limits, they keep gaining useless features over and over, so google can have the browser monopoly (they control the W3C)
>>108253940I have used Linux from 90s to this day and in the case of OOM it always slows down, then just freeze. Can't move cursor and never recovers. Longest I waited was +48 hours and it was still stuck. Even amount of RAM doesn't mean anything. At work we have machine with 768 GB RAM and LLM model just froze everything. There is a reason why all these "OOM fixes" are not used in any distro ever. Fedora tried OOM killers and found out that they don't work. Zram doesn't work. Nothing works.It is possible to use cgroups to limit memory usage and this will forcefully kill the process if it uses too much. Problem is that you have to do this manually and worst case is that your limit is too low or too high anyway when shit hits the fan. Again; there is reason why this is not default feature in every distro.
>>108254087well i would run out of ram while playing vrchat a few times, forgot which distros, either arch fedora or ubuntu. it would hang for like 30sec then vrchat forcefully shut down but the os as a whole didnt crash
>>108253830You can accomplish a lot with just moving physical devices that change depend on different environments. Don't forget that the beginning of all software was just a bunch of stupid logic gates. Look up the SR-71's hydraulic computer for example, it is pretty amazing stuff.You can make an LLM out of fucking redstone IRL if you want, it would just take a million years and would be too massive to be practical.
>>108254130You probably used some old Fedora or Ubuntu versions which had that broken OOM killer feature that they had to remove in the future versions, because it killed programs too much and wrong reasons. Fedora probably had zram also. In Windows, normies can use four times too much RAM and Windows just slows slightly, one program goes white with "not responding" text and then normie spams close buttons 15 times, program closes and everything is fast again. In Linux if you even see RAM usage being over 95%, it is too late to close anything.
