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Is this one good? I know nothing about ups
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>>108265113
Maybe i shouldve mentioned i have a dual 1440pmonitor setup.
3080 rtx 13th gen i5 and 5 hdds 2 ssd
Would this keep my data safe?
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yeah should be fine
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It'll be fine, just be aware if you're in an area with shitty power where you get regular power outages or brown outs, expect to replace those batteries every 18-24 months

I personally had to replace mine every 12-18 months because my power company is so shitty.

Which eventually led to me buying an LiFePO4 UPS instead since the batteries last ~10-20x as long.

Costs more upfront, but you end up saving in the long run since you're not replacing batteries every year or two.
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>>108265254
And before you call me a shill, I had the same model OP is looking at and replaced the batteries like 7x since 2018.
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>>108265273
>>108265254
Forgot pic
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>>108265113
never EVER buy consumer electronics from amazon, it's all chinkshit sold from 3rd party vendors who use worn-out secondhand components.

if you want a computer or phone, you are much better off buying from best buy or sometimes costco.

as for PC, you'll want a 2 terabyte SSD, 32 GB RAM. and at least a 4060 GPU. that will let you use blender or non-4K games comfortably.
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>>108265307
>it's all chinkshit sold from 3rd party vendors
For real, something I'll never understand about Amazon is that they have shit "sold by Amazon" with some pretty acceptable consumer protection, and items sold by other sellers with literally zero guarantees, if it turns out to be a scam, bad luck, you lost your money. And despite being a super important details it's just a tiny note almost hidden that most people won't even see until it's too late.
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>>108265254
Can someone explain please. How can it be 1500wbut only have 300 wh w
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>>108265273
So its bad? How does that make u a shill if u hated it
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>>108265456
I only hated it because my power company is shitty.

The more frequently it has to swap over to battery, the faster those batteries will die. My power company is shitty and thus my UPS would kick on a few times every week, even if just for 5-10 seconds. Each time it kicks over to battery it can cause wear on the battery cells. This frequent "microcycling" that my cells were doing was causing them to die within ~12-18 months.


LiFePO4 battery cells last a LOT longer and are a lot less susceptible to damage from those microcycles. So I bought a different brand that uses LiFePO4 batteries instead, people would potentially call me a shill because i'm recommending a chinese battery brand over the APC/Cyberpower brands most people currently own.
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>>108265445
It's not 1500W

It's 1500VA, 1200W, with a 296Wh capacity.

VA is apparent power, Watts are real power, Wh (watt hours) is the total capacity.

1500VA/1200W means it has a power factor of 0.8, which is standard for modern UPSs.

296Wh means it can run a ~296 watt load for 1 hour.
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>>108265516
So basically just enough time to like shut off my gaming pc normally and thats it eh?
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>>108266931
>>108265516
Would this be better? Amazon says its got a ups built in
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>>108266931
Wut?

My 9800X3D and 4070Ti while gaming pulls ~500W which would be more than 30 minutes on a 296Wh battery.

Even if you've got a 5090 and a 285K you're probably looking at ~750W max during gaming.

And at 750W you'd be looking at 20 minutes of run time on a 296Wh battery.

>>108266973
They don't do any active voltage regulation, so I personally don't think so. Also their UPS functions are not primary features, they're an afterthought.
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What happens when im torrenting but im out and a power outage happens? My battery just runs out and pc dies anywayz?
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>>108266973
>>108267001
Also, if you're willing to spend $800+ just get one of these.
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>>108267015
Power goes out in the building at least twice a year during summer
So i dont need 800$ one at least thats what i think atm so im looking for something cheaper
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>>108267014
If you're there when it happens you stop the torrent, gracefully shut down your client, then gracefully shut down your PC.

A UPS is not intended to be used to run your PC while your power is out, it's intended to give you time to shut down your PC safely and save your progress/finish writing data/etc.

A torrent can be paused with no real data loss.
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>>108267023
No i meant if im not home to do the shu downt
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>>108267022
Well the Jackery Explorer 2000 Plus that you linked is like $800.
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>>108267030
Yeah but i could keep gaming on it cuz its a high wh capacity
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>>108265113
You don't need this. You want it, but you don't need it. Instead of being bad with money and living in an apartment, how about you take that money and invest it?
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>>108267042
I have 77tb of hard to find scat porn if ilost out is hate my life t
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>>108267014
When the power goes out, that means your modem and route go out to you absolute mongoloid. It also means the data transfer stations go down as well. So you won't have internet anyway. RETARD
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>>108267027
You use the UPS's included software, windows power plan settings, or if you have autism, you set up a Network UPS Tools (NUT) installation and configure shutdown conditions.

Generally when a UPS tells windows to shutdown it tells your torrent client to "gracefully" shutdown, IE, it stops the current torrents and saves their state to be resumed upon relaunch of the client. BUT if your client fails to "gracefully" shut down within a 15-20 second window, windows will force close it and continue with the shutdown, which can cause problems with that torrent later, though usually force rechecking the torrent files should get it back up.
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>>108267046
Well in that case. You DO need it.
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>>108267036
I mean theoretically sure, I feel like if you want to do that you really need to move to much larger whole home battery systems like the SOLIX E10.

6,000-90,000 watt hours.
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>>108267051
Sorry there is a misunderstanding. Im saying this feels pointless if im not at home to power down my shit in case of power going out for like 2h. I could put my router onto the ups to keep my wifi going to remote in and shut down bu like u said if its all down i cant rly do much right? Not like my pc can know of ur ups turned of better shut down. t
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>>108265113
it's good. i only had to change my batteries once
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>>108267099
>Not like my pc can know of ur ups turned of better shut down
Anon, that's basically the primary function of a UPS...

You might need to configure it with software, but otherwise that's one of the main things a UPS does, it reports over USB (or ethernet) if it has AC power or not and if not it can be configured to tell your PC to turn off after a certain time/battery charge level/etc.
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>>108267130
Oooooh shit really? Is the software for op open source or some cia spy tier program
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>>108267142
All modern UPS units should just report to the OS as if it's a battery (same standard used for laptop batteries)
You can just tell the OS to shut down when the battery gets to a certain percentage.

For multiple devices you can use NUT to send a signal over the network for devices to shut down
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>>108267142
Network UPS Tools (NUT) is open source, but it's intended for Linux.

You CAN get it working in windows, but you need to know how to get linux tools to talk to the windows file system and be aware of the limitations of it and how to get around them.

Honestly it's not all that hard and you can probably google most of it.


Otherwise most of these UPS companies provide proprietary software, or you can sometimes use the generic windows power plan settings.
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>>108267185
>>108267182

Ty for you help
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In my building when its summer everyone uses an ac but they wired the building that all the wall plugs that the wall in ac units are connected to are one circuit so if all are on it overloads the circuit making yhe whole building lose power lmao. 1st world country btw 5 yrs old building
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>>108267205
That's the kinda shit that should've been discovered in the first year and been fixed with the builder's 1 year warranty. That's a build defect and the builder should be responsible for fixing it.

Though incompetent management probably would rather just not deal with that and instead ignores it because fuck you.
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>>108267221
Yeah exactly
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>>108265113
having recently done some research, what it really comes down to is:
>does it produce enough watts for your stuff that you would plug into it?
>are the batteries a pain to get replacements for?
>is the power supply a "stepped"/"simulated" wave, or a pure sine wave?
The first stuff is really obvious, the last one has a major effect on the price.
To summarize: if you are running on some types of older power supply units on your PC, they may not play well with stepped wave UPS systems.
But pure wave ones cost way more.

If you have a gold or better certified PSU that is 10 years old or newer, you are probably gonna be just fine, and it won't fuck with your PC.
You have options to go about this, but as long as your PSU isn't dogshit you should also look into surplus versions of PSU's being sold used, sometimes without a battery, and see what the price of getting THAT plus a new or refurbished battery will be.
sometimes you can get really good deals.

If you DO have a shitty PSU, I would look into trying to upgrade your PSU first, then get a cheaper UPS unit.

The reason all of this shit about sinewaves is important is some technical shit about smoothly transitioning AC currents... its essentially the same thing as how plugging a light and a fan directly into the same circuit can cause the light to flicker when the fan is running full blast.
Fan's motor fucks with the power flow and makes it choppy.
For a computer, it can fuck up the power supply enough the PSU simply cuts the power because the flow is too unstable for it to handle.



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