Why haven't we even automated fast food restaurants yet?
>>108269678Retards area cheaper.
>>108269678Listeria.
For govt to keep all those jobless retards on life support is gonna cost more than dealing with minimal wage jobs. You can replace them with robots and machinery - that's fine, but what you gonna do with them later lol?
>>108269678Didn't they try to put AI on the drive through ordering system and people were making it loop by ordering 7000 cups of water or shit like that?
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>>108269678It's a fallacy>Who cleans the machine>Who puts the burger in the machine>Who handles the delivery>Who rebuilds the whole restaurant so a machine can actually do that all>Who keeps niggers from vandalising and looting once they realise there isn't a single human there?
>>108269678it would cause retards to crash out and be bad so we keep the bullshit jobs for a bit longer
>>108269694Yeah but last I checked, places still use it.
>>108269701>Who cleans the machinethe toilet brush robot
>>108269701That, but there's also an entire dynamic around it.>people get replaced by machines for job X>suddenly they flood job Y with applicants, making it even cheaper to hire for Y>You could replace Y too, but there's so much cheap labor that you can just keep using people... for nowUntil there's a revolt and looting in the streets, there will just be a downwards spiral as people displaced from one job, would flock to another, dropping its worth down.
robots and automation are great for doing same thing 24/7 hundreds of thousands of times a dayso if you want to automate a premade food factory and ship that frozen across the globe thats a good ideaFast food isnt that exactly. You either have traditional machines that now produce hundreds of same thing a day and need maintenance by a human, or you have fully realized automatons that replicate every movement a human can make.
>>108269690The elites call us useless eaters. They've gotten so full of ego that they don't even consider themselves as the same species, and are likely plan to eliminate us after we help them to figure out enough to just let them live off of machines. They'll probably save a few for some hedonistic freak shit. Hopefully they manage to generally poison this rock before then so I can smile at their idiot fates.
>>108269718Can it still be stunlocked like that?
>>108269678Because we automate the lucrative, well paying jobs first.Slave labor is the last thing to get automated.
>>108269678fast food restaurants serve as a humiliation ritual for tech workers. If they become too expensive, outsource their jobs to India and make them flip burgers
>>108269678But what about all the immigrants?
>>108269678About 45% of Americans work in the fast-food industry. Even if that's what AI companies want, firing all these people at once would make the situation complicated.
Only people who've never had a remotely physical job think robots could replace humans. We're centuries away from that.
I worked at mcdonalds during university and met my gf there, who still works there now.they got a refurb last year and got the latest automated drinks machine init cost a stupid amount of money (I forget) and is a piece of shit that breaks frequently, gets cups stuck, and is slower than the guy doing it before for minimum wage as it can only pour one at a time (??). it takes up more floor space than a traditional tower, and you can't scale its output without buying another one.As it is more complex theyre told not to touch much in maintenance, and the store has to pay for to the expensive outsourcing company every time vs again a minimum wage employee (for anything that doesnt require part replacement or etc).this is the latest and greatest and its still a piece of shit, this kind of automation for food seems to be in its infancy and surely the drinks machine is the simplest in the store to automate. Its not like it even saves money on wages as you still need someone to babysit it, puts lids on and lift the drinks to the right place vs someone just doing the station themselves.
>>108272469it's shit on purpose to sell the maintenance contracts though so not like it's the best we could actually do
>>108272469>As it is more complex theyre told not to touch much in maintenance, and the store has to pay for to the expensive outsourcing company every time vs again a minimum wage employee (for anything that doesnt require part replacement or etc).i thought congress fixed this issue because of how bad the ice cream machines were
>>108269678Automation is coming, its just the fact that the transition from wagies to robots takes time and money. I expect most big stores to be automated in the next 5-7 years
>>108273189CLEAN IT UP, WAGIE
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>>108269678Because robotics (and the world models they require) haven't advanced as quickly as language models have.It'll happen eventually, but for now physical jobs are safer than office ones.
>>108269678>we
>>108269678McDonald's has more locations now than it had ten years ago but only 1/3rd as many employees as they had back then (445k then, 150k now). Automation isn't about 100% replacement of humans, it's about using as few of them as makes economic sense to replace with expensive machines.
>>108269701>isn't a single human thereI don't think anyone aims for zero humans.But they can probably do the same thing with 2 people instead of 12.Any repetitive job can in principle be automated.
>>108273198whenever i see this retarded fag robot, it makes me want to shoplift and kick it over.
>>108273804Do you see them in the wild?I always assumed only a handful exist and they get posted on the internet over and over again.
>>108269694Rallys still does and the second you try to order a shake with a meal that only includes a drink it loses it's shit. You think a burger and ice cream place would have thought that through.
>>108273843Saw it at a regional grocery store a few times. was very bizarre. the one i saw was called "badger robot". looked like such a piece of crap up close.
>>108273873They clearly did no user testing to see how actual customers would attempt to use the product
>>108272069Most humans I know don't work during their job at all, let alone can they compete.
>>108269678If AI made a burger it would cost $1500
>>108274028You can get away with slacking off in many office jobs but it's a lot harder to do that for physical jobs.
>>108269679>Retards area cheaper.this.Much of the fast food is still incredibly automated compared to even 50-60 years ago. However, even though the AI can reasonably replace humans doing white collar work, at best you can get 2 people to do what it took 8, or have people train faster - but only if there is a real need for more hands-on work. You just can't do the same level of automation with physical labor yet. LLMs are great at helping with intellectual work but they simply aren't designed to navigate in a 3D universe yet. Look up old lectures on AI from two decades ago or even beyond - it's a monumental task to create a fully autonomous 3D bot. We still need a person to make sure shit is working.
>>108272482Correct. It's the John Deere model. Proprietary everything to lock in maintenance at ridiculous prices. This is also why robotics will never happen, they'll make it all proprietary for repair while data mining the shit out of everything in your life. IoT failed for the same reason, too much greed between too many competitors.Greed fucks everything up forever.
>>108269678Ai is for doing stuff that's unexpected, not something you want done the same way a billion times
>>108274400yeah like deleting shit you didn't ask it to delete. great innovation, retards.
>>108269678Because the AI won't feel humiliated doing it, next question
>>108273803>I don't think anyone aims for zero humans.You need to seriously get out of your basement.
>>108269678Operating in the physical world is harder than inside a computer. Funny enough its easier to replace high IQ jobs with AI than low IQ jobs.
>>108269718They have an employee takeover if it messes up
>>108269678i worked at mcdonalds, the entire store is already automated the workers just move product around and unjam things once in a while. I spent more time running to the freezer than i did actually cooking
>>108269690>For govt to keep all those jobless retards on life supportYou've never held a job in your life. Fast food chains aren't owned by the government, either.What a dumb, ugly piece of shit you are.
>>108269701>Who keeps niggers from vandalising and looting once they realise there isn't a single human there?
>>108276287It sucks to have an IQ of 124. Real geniuses still have things to do, but I'm not one of them.
>>108273758>economic senseWhat the fuck is economic sense? Why is my big mac costing $8 now when I used to buy it for $3.50? There are less cows in the world now?
>>108274341>it's a monumental task to create a fully autonomous 3D botyou're delusional if you think that's still true. there's essentially ready-to-use, open source platforms for indoor robotics. the only real deterrent to mass adoption right now is cost."le ebin androids" are still expensive to build and don't have generalized human-like skills. you still have to manually train them for individual "skills" like picking up an apple and picking up a mug.
>>108269719who cleans the toilet brush robot
the poopjeet hordes need jobs
>>108277893the toilet brush robot has been programmed to only clean robots that do not clean themselves
>>108277892I don't think it's just cost. Even cheap robots like the chink ones still don't have the fine-grained motor skills to practically be useful for much right now https://epoch.ai/blog/where-autonomy-works-evaluating-robot-capabilities-in-2026There's still a lot of progress, and some of that will compound with all the programming being slopped up by agents these days. But still seems like a research problem rather than just a scaling problem for at least the next few months.
>>108277939that blog spam and graphic are way outdated lmao, china for years has had all of those things as production deployment.
McDonald's here in Sweden no longer have any normal service. You don't see employees except the poor fuck who puts your order at the pick-up desk. Everything is done via screens, no manager on site, AI stuff and crap. Just a question of time before the cooks are also replaced.
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>>108278020this is just loser video game propaganda that people post because they think it does something and it makes them feel like they had some impact, reality is that posting that stuff has never impacted a single chinese person in existence.
>>108277999>Everything is done via screens, no manager on site,And who do you complain to when your order got mixed up?
>>108278047That's the neat part, you don't. Unless you want to go up to the desk, wait 30-35 minutes for someone to realize you are there, ignore you and then tell you to call customer services.
But how does the robot get out without breaking all the eggs?
>>108277999>touch screen is now "AI"I hate this gay world.
>>108278116>walk into electronics store >everything has "AI" on the box Brave new world.
ai-powered retarding chamber
>>108277999>>108278116IIRC mcdongles is using "AI" to monitor the kitchen employees specifically. one of the papers i read, granted that was over a year ago, was talking about "motor inefficiencies" in the kitchen. read: they're trying to standardize wagie movements to generate more profitnot sure if that's what the pic op posted is about tho
>>108277824>"worked"shut the fuck up wagie
>>108278064In my experience the service has improved dramatically with the new self service terminals.Before you had to stand in a queue just to find someone to speak to and it was usually a poorly trained teenager.Now there is a dedicated desk that's usually free and if you go there a senior staff of manager gets to you very fast.
>>108277882>Why is my big mac costing $8 now when I used to buy it for $3.50?Because your $ is worth less today than it was worth yesterday.Go back to the 1950's and a burger would be like 20 cents.
>>108277882Yes, actually. Were you asleep through all of the suspicious food processing plant fires and farm culls? "Economic sense" is also about spending the least amount of money while making the most profit possible, which is why the cost increases for you, the buyer.
>>108277865They seal the building and have an armored roof access port for automated ariel inventory delivery delivery at my local mcdonalds. Only the bathroom is accessible and is also automated.
>fast food industry won't be automate-Oh shit...
>>108278754>ai generated garbage about making undercooked burgers
>>108269678https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qk6HYMNzXQ8This shit was already available in the 60s.
>>108269679they are still human being. It takes 16 years of bare minimum education, tons of food as energy & material to grow them, and you have to feed them at least one meal per day & at least 4 hours of sleep. This is unproductive & unsustainable.Meanwhile robots as body with AI as mind cost less, work almost 24 hours non-stop except for some maintenance.
>>108277882The globohomos are indeed making beef more scarce.
>>108278754>plant-based meatJust give me the fucking plants. I'm not eating that turbo processed shit.
>>108269694What's wrong with just having a touchscreen where you can tap to choose your order? It's insane how hard companies will try to justify their investment on AI when 99% of the time it will do a subpar job compared to a simple and easy to program self-service menu.
>>108278020What a waste of Fruity Pebbles :(
>>108269678ai <> robots
>>108277882The post you responded to was commenting on the economic sense of replacing cheapish humans with expensive automation. For some tasks, it makes economic sense because the automation over time ends up being cheaper even if it costs more in the short term. For some tasks, humans are still cheaper, which is why restaurants still have humans working in them, even if it is now far fewer of them.
Productivity enhancer
>>108269678>Why haven't we even automated fast food restaurants yet?We've been waiting for claudebot ver 2.0 to handle it for us.
>>108269765Not having empathy for your fellow man is actually celebrated amongst the elites. It's absurd.Mind you, neither do I, but at least I'm self aware enough to know this isn't good leadership quality.
>>108281584You are right, but the franchise owner doesn't feel like he is paying for all that growing, hopefully that changes soon as we get mandatory sterelization
>>108282712.>>108269765most of the west's success is traced to the middle class wagies who genuinely believed in the ideals of meritocracy, fairness, truth, law and honor, as flawed as they may be in practice.of course the lower classes looked upon them as suckers for actually working hard instead of begging for handouts while engaging in parasitic scams and criminality. But the elites used to acknowledge them wagies as essential to securing their wealth and privilege, now the elites think the same as the lower classes. It's an interesting shift.
>>108269678Imagine being so fat you think of food when you are at computers.
>>108281584>takes 16 years of bare minimum education, tons of food as energy & material to grow them, and you have to feed them at least one meal per day & at least 4 hours of sleepThe whore pays for it and if she's really lucky the guy who nutted in her last does. Not the CEOs problem.
>>108282712>>108282771I suspect that many have forgotten the value of a high trust society, and instead only look out for their own self interest. Ironically, such a mindset is of lesser benefit, leading to an inferior life for everyone. It's probably the result of poor upbringing and narrow mindedness.
>>108277882It costs more because if everyone charges more you won't have a choice but to pay for increased prices. It's not the corpos all receiving record profits of the exact figures they're increasing prices by, it's those dastardly Dems that are somehow in complete control of everything still for causing """inflation."""Why do you think they're calling us "goycattle?"
>>108281305Soul
>>108273758Misleading post - likely AIslop.>McDonald's has more locations now than it had ten years agoIn the US, the number of McDonald's peaked in 2014, there are fewer McDonald's in the US today than 10 years ago. Most of the growth you are referencing is foreign expansion.>150k nowThat's the number reported on their 10-K on corporate payrolls and does not include franchises. In reality there is probably around 800,000 in the US and 1.7 million worldwide.
>>108274341>However, even though the AI can reasonably replace humans doing white collar workThis is false. The White Collar work is *supposed* to be streamlining the Blue Collar work, aka their job is supposed to make supply chains and processes more efficient and automate Blue Collar work.Therefore if AI was able to replace White Collar work, it would also be replacing Blue Collar work by designing machines to replace Blue Collar workers. That is not happening.>>108269765It's not so much useless eaters. It's more that the elites turned White Collar jobs into Jew daycare for useless foids.
>>108273198Holy shit, pickles are cheap there. They’re like around $4 bucks for one of those smaller jars here.Maybe cuz they have robots?
>>108269701Yeah. That's why robots aren't used for building cars either. They'd have to maintain those machines, someone still has to put the parts in, someone has to deliver the parts, and they'd have to rebuild the entire factory to set that up. It will never catch on.
The problem is that food is designed for humans, we need to redesign food to be more suited for robots.
Fast food is constantly being automated more and more. The whole point of fast food is to have a restaurant where as much labor as possible is automated. Notice how you don't even have to order at the register anymore.
>>108269701>Who cleans the machineOne guy cleans 300 machines per year>Who puts the burger in the machineOne guy feeds 5 burger machines for his 8 hour shift>Who handles the deliveryAutomated truck loaded by a skeleton crew in an automated warehouse.>Who rebuilds the whole restaurant so a machine can actually do that allThe corporation as soon as they calculate that they can make the money back within a year saving on labor.>vandalising and looting once they realise there isn't a single human there?The building would be completely closed off except the slop serve window. It would prevent break ins, not encourage them. Especially considering there's NO cash inside since everything is ordered through the app
>>108274727>>108285667>(car) factories have 0 human staff in them ever at all even if there's an emergencythis is what you sound like
>>108285769>heh 1 person still works there instead of 100! that means we didn't get replaced!And this is literally what you sound like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sftoDJwXPi4The future is NOW
>>108278153I feel like it's not even working all that fast. An expensive robot that can only do one specific task seems like a shitty waste of money. A human can load/unload all that bread then go do another task.
>>108269678Because AI sucks. Simple as.
>>108285767> The building would be completely closed off except the slop serve windowSome guy comes by and pisses in window. Shut down for a week for sterilization. Rinse, lather, repeat.My own city digs our hundreds of those pay ride scooters out of the river ever year.
>>108273198>>108273804My local grocery store has a small version of this, but all it does is inventory in the canned food and pasta aisles
>>108285769>replacing a lot of high pay jobs is the same as replacing low pay jobsYawn.>>108285769>an emergency Most people in a car plant are there for QC, or rather as scapegoat. Ever seen a Kuka fail? Don't worry, a moron like you will never ever get close.
>>108286723i see them working in the background sneaky chinks
>>108277899is this a joke about that barber paradox thing? kek
