Why did 3d printing stop being the coolest shit?
>>108269685I wish I have one. I'm tired of inhaling PVC fumes to bend them straight.
>>108269685It still is
>>108269685outdone by AI as the "new cool thing"
There is no usecase
>>108269685Because the 3D print something you either need to design something yourself (an average person cannot do that) or you need to download something that was already designed (that is nowhere near as interesting, you can already buy physical things that were designed by someone).
>>108269735the whole community of gun printers is purely for the show, they only print lower receivers and then buy all the other components off the shelf because apparently the US law doesn't treat other parts of the firearm as needed to be controlledA lot of talk about how it can't be stopped, but I bet if the us congress simply passed a law that made printing guns illegal, 3/4 of the community would instantly abandon it all because they're not going to prison for a hobby or somethingDoesn't apply to the picrel, but still
>>108269771This is all I use mine for. i spin it up every 6 months or so and print something I badly designed in tinkercad.I'd like a multi-filament one to print some more visually-appealing stuff but it's not going to make any functional difference.
>>108269759warhams
>>108269685There's a lot of shit you can do even with a cheap printer and a cheap printer these days is very capable. New innovations in 3D printing and the price point for entry for more advanced 3D printing features is constantly dropping. t. 3D printing since they hit the consumer market
>>108269791>showI.e. cosmetics. Meanwhile Europe's and especially Myanmar's scene is flourishing. >>108269685They went from curiosity to commodity without turning luxury. See smartphones. Sure, niggers need their $$$ model to brag, but no one cares about Tim's moto that just does it's job. Same as no one cares some farmer in bumfuck nowhere saved himself a few bucks by fixing his milking aperture.
instead of buying a bunch of cheap plastic shit you can buy a $400 printer and $50 spool of plastic and print cheap plastic crap while filling your home with plastic fumes!
I really thought that picture was the laser device. This is probably a bad sign for my mind.
>>108269685It never was cool.
people realized its not gonna change a single thing in the world, they are useful tools if you are into another hobby like car repair, microcontrollers, drones, etc but they were massively overhyped in like 2010 when they started hitting the market. people were saying that it was gonna change the way we do everything.
I like the idea of 3D printing acting as a counter to the action figure industry general jewery. Also, I asked a friend of mine once to print me a little piece of plastic for my driver's seat so I'd say it's also great for printing shit for old stuff.
>>108269685DON'T STAND THERE THAT MACHINE TEARS YOUR SKIN OFF
>>108269771>an average person cannot do thatAverage person amongst the general population? Sure, but that's a very low bar. The average person can't even use photoshop.But if someone is enough of a nerd to buy a 3D printer, there's a pretty high chance that they can at least figure out tinkercad.
>>108269685How much does it cost to get into 3d printing compared to 2018?
>>108269685>Why did 3d printing stop being the coolest shit?When companies made printers "accessible" and "affordable" for normies, trannies, women, and people of color to ruin the hobby.
>>108271428keep crying niggerr
>>108269685Because a solid 80% of the shit being printed was shitty figurines and lacklustre props.People eventually noticed that a very small ammount of functional things could be printed, the real goldmine are actual lathes but they are far more inaccesible and expensive.Also let's say that you do manage to do something useful: Well, it's still a shitty production method, injection molding and other procedures are far more effective and robust.3D printing realistically works best as a versatile prototyping tool.
>>108270398What are you printing?
>>108269735>>108269791I know essentially nothing about metal working, but is it really that hard to make a grease gun or something by hand?
>>108272729One correct sentence followed by peak retard. Almost impressive.
>>108269685>Why did 3d printing stop being the coolest shit?Actual answer: when it got associated with the Anti-AI sl8p zeitgeistArtists got mad at normiegoyim preferring to buy 3d printed dragons for 20 bucks at conventions instead of their ugly handmade stuffPeople still respect the hell out of 3d modellers of course because that is objectively artistry. 3d printing is pretty awesome, I've mostly printed board game stuff and little games for my nephews and nieces and they love all the little games >>1082697353d printed guns will truly become relevant when you can 3d print a musket. In my country you can't buy bullets or any firearm parts. What that means is that if I wanted to make my last stand, I need something that can launch a steel ball using black powder I mixed myself.
>>108273079fuck sake anon at least explain
>>108269685Seems like it's well established at this point, people make all kinds of things with 3D printing.
>>108269685>>108269754the new coolest thing is 3D printing AI generated shit.
>>108272762The 3Ds.
>>108271603>dab on niggers>hurr durr you're a niggerare you retarded?
>>108269685It's still pretty cool. It's just become so mainstream and common that all the /r/futurology dweebs are no longer orgasming over every new shit-tier printer design that gets posted on Kickstarter.>>108269759You must be an exceptionally dull person to be around.>>108271380With or without accounting for inflation?It's not a lot cheaper than back then, but you can get a higher quality printer than back then. The control systems have improved so much that even comparing a 2020 printer to a 2024 printer you can see how much better the prints come out.>>108272768>is it really that hard to make a grease gun or something by hand?It's pretty trivial. Luty's book is a good example, just buy common chunks of metal from the Bong equivalent of Home Depot and screw them together to form a functioning firearm.But 3D printing really shines when you need to make a magazine. Luty's design required a lot of hand work. With a 3D printer you just download the STL file, slice it for your printer, and hit the start button.
>>108270398Do cheap printers for under 50 USD exist
>>108269759this
>>108273080I want the 3d modellers destroyed too... They're still part of the war
>>108274027you can probably find a used ender 3 or something for that on facebook market or craigslist or offerup or whatever people use these days
Hype died because it's near impossible to make anything but plastic parts in a home settings. Retards were saying that in "DA FUTURE" you wouldn't go to the store to buy an iPhone, your 3D printer at home would make it, which is honestly laughable, it was never going to happen. Surely it made a lot of money to the Makerbot guys when they sold the company to Stratasys. But people with actual hobbies love 3D printers, from table top gaming, firearms, cars, drones/RC anything, etc.
>>108274302It's honestly pretty impressive how far we've come from the shitty Makerbots and Ender 3s.
>>108272729>>108273096>the real goldmine are actual lathesHasn't been for a couple of decades. At any moment you can hop on facebook, craigslist, etc. and find some moron in your area desperate to make his money back on whatever heavy equipment he has gotten himself into.>Well, it's still a shitty production method, injection molding and other procedures are far more effective and robust.>more effectiveIn walks the case of production units < 10.>robustWhat are non shell objects.>other proceduresThank god we didn't get too specific here, else someone might find out SLM is eating cast for breakfast at big pieces.>3D printing realistically works best as a versatile prototyping toolEven if we dismiss all 3d printed parts as structural insufficient, their main selling point would still be sales. Get a job.
>>108274833>Spend God knows how much time and money making a beeg Goku>Paint it like a gumball machine toyprintfags are utterly braindead
Turns out it's not as easy as ignorant journalists hyped it up to be.
>>108269685>i wanna be one of the cool kidschrist on a cross hs ended long time ago, grow the fuck up and consider doing shit you like instead of chasing optics. fucking retard.
>>108269771>Because the 3D print something you either need to design something yourself*sigh* if only there were a way to just ask for the things you want.
>>108269685Neutered to stop >>108269735
>>108269771I'm a mechE and design and print stuff pretty much constantly. I came to same conclusion, if you're not doing your own designs its of limited use.Unless you play dnd and need 50 elves or something. Those guys get their money's worth as well.>>108271380About $200 for an ender 3 current version. They just keep getting faster and more robust. I upgraded mine last year and gave old one to nephew, who's in engineering classes in high school.>>108274027Used perhaps, but I wouldn't touch that stuff. Not worth the hassle unless youre coverting to something else like anon above did.
ran out of things to print
>>108269685Because you can't print smooth surfaces, it always looks and feels like shit. People want something that looks professional.
>>108276158>you can't print smooth surfacesquite literally skill issue
I love my 3d printer. I print my kids fidgets and stupid meme toys they ask for. I also print out cases for my little tech projects. Picrel is a case I printed for an esp8266 soldiered on to a garage door opener that I keep on top of my garage door opener and I added in to home assistant.
>>108276158just sand and paint it with SEM.>>108276191idiot
>>108269685My state banned 3d printers
>>108276158if you printed that on glass you'd have glass smooth surface.if you printed it with a smaller nozzle you'd have smootherif you printed that with resin printer you'd have smootherif you printed different orientiation with tiny layer height, smoother.
>>108277161No way, what? Where?
>>108277205California last week banned 3d printers and gnu/Linux starting Jan 1st 2027
Would a 3d printed firearm even function beyond a single shot? I swear all the functional "3d printed guns" are just other disassembled weapons put in a "cool" looking shell.
>>108277340There's a few designs out there now that let you build a fully functional semi-auto firearm from basic hardware store components and 3D printed parts.No, I'm not gonna point you towards them, I'm probably on enough watchlists already as it stands.
>>108277340no lol. they all use metal parts for anything seeing any strain or heat. its a fuckin meme.3d printers are incredible for mock ups, molds, jigs, nla plastic parts, mechanisms where plastic is suitable. great at what they are great for, aiding traditional fabrication and design.its the unemployed that believe otherwise. see: ai hype and whatever the next happeningfag thing was before that (legit think it was 3d printers lol) ah man in 2 more weeks we're gonna be able to print a space craft!
>>108277340it has been proven to be effective with barrel and lower receiver in metal.wich kinda fuck up the purpose ,if you can have a lower receiver that means you can buy a gun and if you can buy a gun there's kinda no point in it.Even if you would just buy the lower receiver ,they are still registered.I wouldn't shoot anything with at least Upper+lower+barrel in steel and at least or maybe if you make it an air rifle wich would be then possible but limited to a certain amount J.if i'm wrong might someone correct me and give you a better answer.
>>108277420>if you can have a lower receiverI would say the barrel is harder to DIY.
the material is really expensive and the actually decent printers are even worse
>>108274943It's not bad for a base coat. He just needs to apply details now
>>108276158>That amount of stringing If you don't print it at 10km/s it looks better.
>>108277420>>108277609Oh yeah and ammo, good luck with that in a no gun country, kek.
>noxious fumes>expensive>only purpose is creating more plastic waste garbage to pollute the world and insert more microplastics into every living being
>>108277340They'd be perfect for a (relatively) cheap prop for a low budget movie, if those even exist anymore.
>>108277744yeah too much tools you need too when you can just go to the local ball trap ,give few shots,take a beer and you'd be good with Hunting shotguns/Carbines. Plus if you've got a license then you can have actually the stuff you need if you still want to make ammos.but honestly now there's metal 3d printer so honestly it's all good plus you could print the barrel without the cnc transformation etc. Will see
>>108275847This. It can do KiCad too btw.
>anycubic mono m5s screen died>replacement $400>can just buy a new printerCorrect me if I'm wrong but they usually drop new printers around april-may, should I wait or should I buy a Saturn 4 Ultra 16k?My usecase is printing anime waifu figure exclusively, the m5s was already pretty good in terms of layer lines on everything but the smoothest of titty gradients.
>>108279316you should be able to get a replacement screen for a quarter of that price on aliexpress
>>108279316>>108279359altneraitvely just uy it directly from these guys, they manufacture everything all the resin printer companies use anyway. https://www.chitusystems.com/products/anycubic-photon-mono-m5s
>>108279413>>108279359No, how dare you, you're suppose to be like "ofcourse anon, it is only right to spend your goyimcoins"Ah fuck now I have to actually fix it. But thank you for the idea/link.
Because they increase cancer rates in respiratory ducts of those that own them
>>108269791>entire paragraph talking about shit he knows nothing about>under a post about the fgcGo back
>>108269685Bambu made it incredibly easy to make very high quality prints. The coolness was getting a printer to perform optimally.
>>108269791>fabricate upper barrel from scrap metal using a CNC machine/ mini lathe>print the lower receiver and other moving parts>????>profit
>>108277420>lower receiver in metalthat doesnt need to be metalonly real required metal parts is chamber and barrel for a gun to be "reusable"see picand because american gun laws is weird and retarded, only the frame or receiver is the "firearm"you can buy everything except for a lower receiver and on paper, at least, you dont own a firearmbut if you go buy a (100%) lower receiver and nothing else, you are buying a firearm and have to jump through hoopsbuy an 85% lower? not a firearm. do you want same day shipping?
>>108279439That's only true for resin printers
>>108279439bro your bentoboxbro your air purifier that everyone really should have in their rooms anyway printer or no printerdont be a retard and huff fumes for no reason
>>108279621An air purifier is not a replacement for a proper ventilation system.
>>108277106This is exactly the use case I want a 3d printer for. What printer r u using?
>>108279591my bad then i knew there was something about the lower receiver but yeah i was thinking more about the chamber (since that's where the detonation happens) i'm sorry but thank you for your post at least i won't misguide someone thanks to you.
>mfw I just finished setting up my 3D printer todayNow I just need to watch some tutorials on how to prepare 3D models for printing. Any recommendations? I already know how to make stuff in Blender, but I don't know best practices to print it properly.
>>108280298People like Maker's Muse and Teaching Tech have a bunch of useful videos. You'll probably fall down the algorithm rabbithole from there.
the cruel reality is that most people simply do not care about making thingsthey'll dream and dream about it and imagine up wild scenarios and projects, but once they're given the ability to do so without hassle they'll just realize they don't care and give up on it
>>108280298hes a bitch and every single one of his videos is a self advertisement about his bullshit print farm service to an annoying degreebut if you can ignore that part>slant 3dhas some pretty more niche but useful stuff that is all to make his job easier printing your garbage, using the excuse (which is true) that the techniques will make it print on "any" printer regardless of its slicer settingslike>designing supports in the model itself so they break away cleanly instead of in the slicer and needing tweezers to pick it out>using mouse ears for better bed adhesion on skinny models>orientating a model correctly, depending on the application for strength, using 45 degrees (which conveniently usually makes printing something longer and makes him more money)but it really is as simple as>import model>poke at settings>no i dont like that support there, let me paint it out>i want support here, let me paint some in>no i dont like that infill pattern let me change the pattern or density and that looks fine>printgood prints come from good models TO print firstly, your settings come secondjust like how health starts at home, not at the doctor's office front door
>>108279430You need to serious lay off the brainrot, anon.
>>108269685Because it's users never advanced beyond making stupid little toys. Sometimes if I'm looking for small parts I'll notice some are 3d printed, but the idea of making useful things people need for profit passes the minds of most people who want clicks on instagram
>>108269685Who combines 3d printing with AI will become the world's first trillionaire.
>>108281052>the idea of making useful things people need for profit passes the minds of most peoplebecause there really isnt much manufacturing power as you think there isyou get lightweight parts.thats it.you get "ugly layer lines" across the entire part that make the product look cheap, and have you seen overhangs or bridges?you also only get ONE 'good' surface without wasting time ironing the top surfaceits also not food safe without heavy post processingmost things need "weight" either to feel like its quality or for a practical purposelike take a pen holder, you dont want it to slide around so it needs HEFF and gripsure you could over engineer the grip with custom TPU feet and solve the grip problem, but the only real way to add weight is pausing and inserting something mid print like tungsten putty or doing a slide in method and having an 'ugly' seam/joint in the partthe only real commercially viable 3d prints is flashy, lightweight nicknacks (see pic) or fidget toys that inspire(rainbow emoji) people into thinking 3d printing is the future. articulating slop fits both of those boxes3d printing is for people who want custom parts to solve their individual issue and are willing to not have injection molded quality and strength.its not something that can solve everyone elses issue at a commercial scalesee pic again, these are not commercially viable products for people without a printer, these are viably monetized files for people who have a printer, that are unskilled and cant make OC things, and dont know what to do with it, so they can just outsource the model making process and print out a gag gift and "participate in the future(rainbow emoji)"
FTN5 is pretty cool
>>108269685Because all the free 3d CAD programs are dogshit.
>>108281189>freecad?wish i learned it before i settled into using fusiondealing with the 10 editable files bullshit is less work for me right now than re-learning my interface
>>108281202the interface was absolute aids last I checked but I'll give it another try
>>108274773>Hasn't been for a couple of decades. At any moment you can hop on facebook, craigslist, etc. and find some moron in your area desperate to make his money back on whatever heavy equipment he has gotten himself into.Idk man I'm not form the US, also on my equivalent of Craigslist I do see some postings for lathes and some CNCs just because the economy of my country is uhh... let's just say it's having a bit of a moment.I will be honest on something though: Like a fucking retard I oversold lathes. Because in all honesty I believe that 3D printing on it's own sucks ass, and Machining on it's own is stupid fucking expensive, realistically both should be combined. In my eyes the goal is having the freedom to manufacture just about anything, like you want it.> In walks the case of production units < 10.True, won't even deny it. A bit of a niche case but valid nontheless.> What are non shell objects.When I meant robust I wasn't clear enough. My main issue with 3D printing, besides the waste (which I mean, it's not really a 3D printing issue) is the layer adhesion strength issue.>Thank god we didn't get too specific here, else someone might find out SLM is eating cast for breakfast at big pieces.Gonna be honest with you. It's been literal years I haven't heard of SLMs, you reminded me that the thing actually exists.> Even if we dismiss all 3d printed parts as structural insufficient, their main selling point would still be sales.I mean... yeah? My overarching point was that essentially 3D printing was overrated and that 3D printing stopped being "the coolest shit" because the hype died when the limitations were found.> Get a job.Chill down, I just dropped a post late at night and judging the response you wrote you almost had a stroke reading my slop. It's not that big bro
(I'm >>108281238)nontheless, thanks for the explanation though.
>>108276158Holy mother of skill issue.
>>108281212It's changed a shitload over the past year or so.
>>108279439>FDM fumes give cancerEither you show me a citation, or YWNBAW, Rajesh.
>>108281455He's sorta right, if you're printing stuff like ABS or nylon. Styrene, bisphenol-A and caprolactam are not exactly healthy.PLA however mainly releases trace amounts of methyl methacrylate (smelly, but not particularly toxic) and PETG is only slightly worse, so they're fine to print anywhere you've got a bit of ventilation.
>>108281455>>108281559aerosolized carbon fiber micro particulates my belovedyou will go perfect with the micro particulates of glass fiberwypipo dont season dey lungs
>>108269685Still use mine all the time. Saved a ton of money just printing shit I needed instead of buying it on Amazon or whatever.
>>108281212Its still shit...
>>108281600The vast majority of 3D printing is done with plastic that isn't filled with carbon- or glass fibers, and the fibers are embedded in the plastic so they don't really go airborne unless you're sanding, cutting or breaking a finished print. Obviously you should be taking proper precautions if you're post-processing anything involving those.
>>108269791>the whole community of gun printers is purely for the show,niggah please as far as hobbyist 3d printing tech goes fosscad was pushing the boundaries further than anything else
>>108269685>Why did 3d printing stop being the coolest shit?It never was>>108269735You can;t make a single useful pressure bearing component like a barrel, bolt, hammer, sprint, firing pin etc for a firearm with melty plastic, you may as well glue your bits into a fucking kids toy or airsuft toy as print
>>108272768>I know essentially nothing about metal working, but is it really that hard to make a grease gun or something by hand?No and you would have to make a barrel and bolt etc anyway
>>108269771I know most people are stupid and lazy, and I haven't messed with free CAD programs, but if you're at all technically inclined you can learn to do enough Fusion to make basic brackets, adapters, shit like that in a few hours. I guess a big thing about 3D printing in general is that it's mostly useful if you're somebody who already does /diy/ shit. Being able to make custom fittings, spacers, blanking plates, tool organization/storage shit, and so on is incredibly powerful, but I guess the average person just buys shit and those capabilities aren't relevant at all to them.
>>108280350>>108280485Thanks!
>>108277250That's a proposed bill, it hasn't passed yet. Normally I'd say it probably will, because CA lawmakers are retarded, but in this case I think corporate users might block it since between tech, aerospace, automotive, and other industries there are a shitload of companies in the state that use printers to prototype shit they don't want anybody else knowing about and the shit CA wants to implement would be a huge industrial espionage risk.
>>108274027I know some people bought big format printers that wold love nothing more than for someone to get them off their hands. Doubt they will be haggled down to 50$ when they paid 400$ though lol.Used stuff though... don't take the filament when they want to through some in, it will most likely be brittle and unusable
>>108280120creality k2 plus. It just works. I have only had one issue with it and Ive had it for almost a year now with a lot of use. To fix the issue i had to tighten some belts from some screws in the back. I hated my first 3d printer because of all the issue but this thing is a beast and rarely ever fails and if it does, its usually my fault because i forgot supports or something.
>>108269685low durabilitylow resolution(quality)
>>108269685>why this stop being the cooles shit?what are you? 12? grow the fuck up, who gives a fuck about what others conceive as cool or not? i will buy one of those printers because i find them rad as fuck, i dont give a single fuck about a faggot like you or anubody thinks about it, i dont do it for faggots to think i'm cool, you fucking retard
>>108282234This, it's a tool that makes making things a lot easier. Most people are interested in having things, not making them.
need пapaфин or cиликoн printers
>>108281238 >>108281244Don't worry, there wasn't any thought behind it, just a casual rant. >postings for lathes and some CNCsI meant services for there of, but i guess selling the whole thing checks out as well. Check out what the chinks did, there's a shit ton of one man mills ever since rona. In 2024 the competition got so bad you could order parts for basically material price+shipping on toabao and else. >layer adhesion strength issueArguably not that much of a problem in my opinion. 3dp may not reach injection molded ABS strength ootb, but you can offset that by using stronger filaments and even further by annealing. What i meant by non shell objects though is basically a whole cylinder vs a typical trash can.>Gonna be honest with you. It's been literal years I haven't heard of SLMs, you reminded me that the thing actually exists.This one is a bit of a travesty. I know everyone on g wants to be the cool hacker basement kid, but keep yourself updated on how the world works around. "We could do X by Y" is probably the second biggest soft skill after talking to people at all.Refreshing to see a self reflecting post on g though. Hope you're having a good one, anon.
>>108272768No it can be easy, the hardest item to fabricate is making a barrel which is a component under pressure that you want rifled and straight. Assuming that you give up and find sufficiently thick pipes to use instead, one of the biggest headache with guns is making good magazines that feed reliably and that don't have to be custom built and troubleshot to make each one work. The mechanical action is easy to make in comparison assuming an open bolt simple blowback design (which will get the ATF on your ass as those are basically machine guns as far as they see it) to make such an action is more dictated on doing a lot of math and tuning till you figure out how much mass and spring pressure is required to cycle the action and prevent out of battery detonations.
>>108274773zaaamn youz a big brained boy
>>108269685imo like 15 years ago, 3d printing was too early, it was neat, but not very useful for many things. fast forward to today, and its finally actually useful. they can print good shit out of metal now, stereolithography, etc.
