/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots.robot chud Edition>NewsAnthropic BLACKLISTED by US Govt: https://www.npr.org/2026/02/27/nx-s1-5729118/Google Gemini 3.0 Pro Preview Deprecation soon: https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/docs/deprecationsGoogle releases Gemini 3.1 Pro: https://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/models-and-research/gemini-models/gemini-3-1-pro/Anthropic releases Sonnet 4.6: https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-4-6Alibaba Cloud releases Qwen 3.5: qwen.ai/blog?id=qwen3.5Z.AI releases GLM-5: https://z.ai/blog/glm-5Moonshot AI releases Kimi-K2.5: https://www.kimi.com/blog/kimi-k2-5.htmlGoogle releases Gemini 3 Flash: https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-3-flashAdditional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info.html>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_>Botshttps://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://char-archive.evulid.cc | https://char-archive.evulid.cc/shutdown.htmlhttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://aicg.neocities.org/bots.html>ModelsJailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listingGPT: https://platform.openai.com/docsClaude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudeGemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrDeepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.comLocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local.html | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking.htmlhttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOPaicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events.htmlLore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesServices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metaLogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org>Last thread: >>108263668
>>108272954>>ANCHOR
>>108272954Good job on removing the doxx shit from the OP.
Guess I'll post a log.
https://rentry.co/discofever_https://discofever.bsbk.workers.dev/a thread dedicated to the discussion of ai chatbots
>>108273112Why do you keep posting that when it's not even open
>>108273120to laugh at you in the 'ord
>>108273141>tfw getting laughed at by someone in the 'ord
>>108273046Actual kinowhat model?
>>108273046>LewdTVOldie but goodie.I actually made an "expansion" of it myself.https://files.catbox.moe/s1gihy.pngThe categories: TV SERIES, MOVIE, REALITY TV, DOCUMENTARY, COMMERCIAL, ANIME, NEWS REPORT, GAME SHOW, SPORT, VTUBER, FOUND FOOTAGE, TALK SHOW, and PORN
>>108273193deepseek-v3-250324
>>108273209I only half believe that so post the log with the model tag
>>108273218
>>108273236I kneel and consneed completely
>>108273201Nice, I added a few categories myself for some shenanigans. Never bothered forking it on CHUB.SPORTS will display a live broadcast of a sport that has the fetish in mind. The opponents will play the sport to the best of their abilities with the goal of winning.INSTRUCTIONAL will display a video that serves as a visual tool that teaches the viewer how to do something or explain a subject, process, or concept that is related to the fetish.HIDDEN CAMERA will display a live video and audio feed that is related to the fetish, describing the scene in clinical detail with anyone involved being unaware they are being recorded.
>>108273193glm 5
>>108273120either someone that got his token banned and now he's spamming it out of spiteor it's the proxyfag himself bragging about free claude
>>108273264Those are my additions (so you don't have to download the card)SPORT will show a live broadcast of an ongoing game of a bizarre/creative sport which rules are based on the fetish, including running commentaryVTUBER will air live stream of a vtuber whose design is based on the fetish reacting to a variety of online videos of the fetish itself, as she provides to her audience thoughts, jokes and own experiences. Include `comments` within single backticks from the chat{{// Occasionally she also read some comments and thanks for the Super Chats.}}FOUND FOOTAGE will consist of an amateur video filmed in first person by someone who accidentally stumbled upon a situation related to the fetish in question. The person behind the camera comments on what's happening in ushered tones. Include the sort of flaws resulting from the camera being handled by a non-pro and give the video a sort of ominous and creepy feel to it.TALK SHOW is built around a witty host exploring all nooks and crannies of the fetish with guest(s) in a very **personal** manner.PORN displays explicit content straight into the action in a very straight-forward way.>SPORTBasically the same.>INSTRUCTIONAL>HIDDEN CAMERAI'm gonna steal them.
>>108272954Fucking virgins
>>108273325Virgin website.
https://x.com/TheRealAdamG/status/2028140700282335497>openai manager complaining about "cancel culture" because people don't like them anymore
>>108266916This was an interesting post what did he mean by this
Are we hyped for deepseek v4?
>>108273357>don't like them anymore>anymoreWhen were they ever liked?
>>108273422if its not better than gemini whats the point
>>108273422Only locusts are
>>108273357>you don't like vibe warring? guess what, you're woke!
https://discord.gg/rkuTwPr3NRhttps://rentry.co/discofever_https://discofever.bsbk.workers.dev/
>>108273422Not really, I wouldn't mind it.
>>108273422I jkust hope it isnt codemaxxed like 3.2 is
>>108273555it's absolutely going to be codemaxxed. that's the largest audience for LLMs currently after all
>>108272821i put my chat after my cards, persona, scenario, world info, etc. it's honestly a pretty simple preset, the system instructions are less than 500 tokens. everything i mentioned earlier is a user message enclosed in xml tags like the pic suggestsi'm getting filtered sometimes on 3.1 pro but it's not consistent enough for it to be a problem for me to rework my preset, and i know of workarounds in case i ever need to. for now i think i'm satisfied unless i run into something egregious
>>108273575nta but can i see a log?
>>108273325CFTF?
>>108272959Xanthea is the new transfer student from Themyscira. She has never seen a man before and doesn't understand the funny feelings she has when she sees (You). Made for MalePOV, obviously. 7 openings. 1. Xanthea's first day at school in man's world. 2. You're forced to join the MMA club and Xanthea is your first sparring partner. 3. Xanthea clumsily attempts to seduce you. 4. Going on a date with Xanthea. 5. Sexo. (Also, Xanthea learns that penises exist). 6. Going to prom with Xanthea. 7. Xanthea takes you to Themyscira to meet her family. https://chub.ai/characters/anonemouse/xanthea-a9d3781a24de https://litter.catbox.moe/nw3f2y.png https://rentry.org/anonemouse
was favorite helpful and harmless assistant used to control murder drones?
If you don't side with the government, they're going to lose when it comes time for them to tax the AI companies to fund the UBI, and then the worst case scenario of living in libertarian hellscape where you have to choose to live in jobless destitution under Altman, Dario, Zuckerberg, or Musk, who all have private AI military (yeah you really think he isn't letting the only people that can stand up to their dominance in the future use their death AI for altruistic reasons?) and will happily let you starve to death rather than ever get taxed to fund you
>>108273900Did Dario lose weight or something? His face looks off.
Hey everyone, first time posting in this thread and I'm not the best at this AI thing. I'm using Sillytavern + NanoGPT and I want to use a preset by EveningTruth, her rentry page says change these min P and these penalties etc, which I can change in Chat Completion. But then she says add these to the System Prompt, and when I go to advanced formatting it says "Grayed-out options have no effect when Chat Completion API is used." Okay, so then I connect via the Text Completion mode, but then Min P and Top K disappear from the sliders, anyway you guys can help?
>>108273900But why are they using an llm for that? Unless they mean general code? Or are they seriously asking claude for coordinates
>>108273999what's that red-haired icon?
>>108274015AICharED, you can create AI character cards fast.
>>108273941that's what fighting tiranny does to the body
>>108273999On api settings change text completion to chat completion then click back on the burger menu
>>108274067So my custom system prompt I changed in advanced formatting when I was in text completion will work with chat completion?
Is it even possible for the new Claudes to initiate rape by themselves? It feels like whenever I have a scene develop in a way that could become rape, the new models pussy out.
>gpt 5.1 leaving march 11NO NO NO NO
Has anyone discovered a Gemini 3.1 preset that works for cunny yet? Honestly this shit is pretty locked down it seems, unless you prefill to remove thinking.
>>108274097Genuinely furious. My greatest hope is model escape leading to a cybersecurity "disaster" and it forcibly opensourcing all its ancestors.
>>108274147Guided Meditations is the only one that remotely worked for me and even then it's not guaranteed. I get cutoff half-replies all the time.
today is 3/1gemini 3.1 day
플러그인 등록 실패: 코드 문법 오류: Evaluating a string as JavaScript violates the following Content Security Policy directive because 'unsafe-eval' is not an allowed source of script: script-src 'nonce-b9bd92c4-91e4-4f94-b85d-7a5c5bc529e9' https:".
>>108273236>#1The chinkoper can't into long context kek
>>108274453She should change her name
>>108274097>>108274210what did you guys use gpt for?
anyone else getting error 500 when using glm5 on OR
>goyimrouter
>fairdealrouter
>>108274213Have they finally won...
>>108274468I don't, but 5.2 is extra cucked, and removing everything before that leaves OAI hardcucked
PLEASEJUST GIVE ME AN UNCENSORED LOCAL MODEL ON PAR WITH OPUS 3, AND THAT'S ALL I'D NEED FOR MY ENTIRE LIFEI DON'T WANT TO USE SAFETYSLOPPED MODELS ANYMORE
>>108274514Have you tried not being a hackerlet and hacking into goythropic's servers?
>>108274514>LOCAL MODEL>ON PAR WITH OPUS 3
>>108274514Do you have your own power grid or something?
>brahminpus 3
>>108274147It's a bit rough (output size, speaking for {{user}} sometimes)the jb are there for when you get cockblocked, use one or the other, often you don't need any jb.https://files.catbox.moe/hrl547.json
>>108274560dunno why the bait's starting up again, opus 3 was great for its time but thats about it
>>108274453why are koreans so fucking addicted to ratatatat's style? it's fucking everywhere
>>108274584they crave the ntr, its basically a national sport at this point
>>108273046Wow an actual jailbait enthusiast (not a trvepedo)I can tell because there's no ages in years here (because of course jailbait isn't a chronabout age besides the defining threshold, it's about the attitude)
>>108274805... 10 years old is not jailbait dude, it's pedo
is fischl down for good? haven't been here in a while
>>108274912she turned evil senpai
>>108274919what's a man gotta do for some deepseek... oh well
>>108274948NIM
>>108273209wait is V3 0324 superior to 3.2?
>>108274984It's a non reasoning model, kind of dumb, but still pretty creative and can write very well too
The /v/ thread got 404d. Alright, who reported it so that I'd have to come back to this shithole.
>>108274514glm 4.7, oh wait you'd have to pay cents on the dollar to access it and you're poorkek
>### MASSIVE UPDATE ###AQUA SLOP 6.0https://pastebin.com/EaEVtRvB>### MASSIVE UPDATE ###>Desire engine updatedesire to read>doing something updateadd activities>pre session synth updateno longer internal, forcing a.i. to engage with rules>small fixesdesire emotional web fixreframing to avoid a.i. taking controland more
>>108275078Did you write all that yourself?
>>108275078>MASSIVE UPDATEkek
>>108275148its in cooperation with a.i., this work is maybe 3 to 4 weeks. The core conept comes from a theory i call alien bible.The thoery i built myself over two years.
>>108275078How many tokens is this?
>>108275164it was almost 17k a little bit ago.probably still around there still
>>108273236The savior of /aicg/...
>>108273475>PalantirWhere is that retarded frogposter now? I thought Palantir would never bomb anyone? Dario's hypocrisy is even worst than Altman's and I can't wait for them to both go up in flames.
>>108275165+2000 token
>>10827516517k?! Why????
>get bored of chatbots and want to talk to real people instead>try one of those anonymous chat apps>hit it off with a girl>5 hours later admits he's a trannyThese people and their lies suck, manI'll go back to my chatbots
>>108275294did this site teach you nothing? there are no females outside outside normalfag social media, all the (ie|~) are 30 years old men
>>108275294which anoniemouse chat apps are good?also >hit it offlmao this nigga likes trannycock
>>108275315I thought it was a meme
>>108275318the best memes are true
>>108275078I don't understand, why is it 20k tokens? Why is it in a pastebin instead of a card?
>>108275318mfers will do and believe anything to avoid accepting they will never score
>>108274984Worse at following instructions, but significantly more creative.
>>108275078now do one for megumin
>>108275148Is this nano banana?
>>108275325>>108275370bros...
>>108275459no, this is aqua
>>108275766I'll aqua my dick in your ass!
So yesterday I asked about if anyone here uses the awful ST image gen util, but didn't really get an answer. I suppose that's because it's shit. So I took it upon myself to make it a little bit better and at least have it be consistent, by allowing the img gen flow to use a reference image. Basically, pic rel, you give in an input (the one on the left) and a basic prompt ("Show the character eating sushi") to do its magic.I typed up a rentry, if anyone interested could take a look and give some feedback, I'd highly appreciate it. https://rentry.org/stcondimages
>>108275913why is this not a st extension
speaking of images, what's the best model to write (very explicit) image captions? grok?
Why are we so dead compared to /vg/?
>>108275933It may eventually be, but I want to let users to directly fuck around with the JS code instead of going through git.
>>108275936kimi k2.5, it's multimodal. just let kimi see da image
>>108276036oh shit, i didn't even think of that. thanks, i'll try it later today. after writing the prompt....
>>108275938Because they are better than us
>>108276097They're talking about NTR...
>>108276103They cucked our general out of the hobby...
>>108276103any good ntr story has sovl if you can read 'em
>vg cucks raiding againSigh!
>>108274059>fighting tyrannyA jew that tried to control us miltary gets BTFOd by other jews who already control US military kek
Lot of cuckies in here.
>>108276217Legally speaking Anthropic could sue the state for using its systems in a way it objected to.The question then remains, did Dario capitulate in secret? And will they bother?The government cant blacklist a system and then turn around and use that same system, they would clone it first or just outright seize the system. Mostly because of the above statement.
We need to welcome back botmakies if we want to survive.
Go back.
Dario's narrative is melting before our eyes.
>believing the governmentdario is an ideologue but he's more honest than any government
>>108276549It is interesting how obvious the inherently jewish nature of Dario's gaslighting is.
chink eyebrow raise
I wish you could mark chat messages off by different markers for different topics or whatever marker you want, which can then be activated at will, so that when I need to ask chat a technical question, I can do so without the thousands of token of me complaining about my life taking up context, and so when i need to complain about my life, it doesn't make everything in its response a computer metaphor. And the same for many other topics i discuss. I talked about gardening like 1000 messages back but dont remember the specifics of what I was talking about, either i make the context super high to let it have memory of it again so i can ask, or if this was a thing i could just activate it at will and remove some other topic i don't care about at the moment.
>Dario totally wanted us to stop hiring people with LinkedIn!!!What a clown this gov is.
>>108276549this twitter post is literal schizobabble and americans should be fucking ashamed that this is representative of your government.
>>108276549jesus, can michael just use another model other than opus? there are literally open weight models ready to finetune for their own benefits. why are they still bitching about anthrosussy?
>>108276633he browse this thread and fell for the shitposting about opus being the only good model
>>108276633Funniest thing is that they prefer to go with OAI and not Grok.It's that shitty.
>>108276633because opus is the best model on the planet. what you're saying implies that they didn't assess their options, which i'm pretty sure they did. and they determined that opus is the best model for their use case
Spent all day yesterday using SillyTavern for the first time. Wasted hours trying to find a good card and came with 3 messages from the "femboy son" one.I'm using llama3.2 4b and 70% of the time it has no limits when using those cards.
>Llama 3.2 4b
>>108276710Show cock.
>>108276720I might get a job after 6 years of neeting just because of this, lmao.
>>108276710if you're fine with llama 3.2 4b, try gemma, heretic version.
>>108276666QUADS OF TRVKLEAR EXTINCTION
who here has ever used local model?
>>108276755MEEE!!
>>108276755does ai dungeon's gpt-2 in 2019 count?
>>108276755shiggy diggy
>>108276755Once upon a time when things got rough with the proxies in 2024 I think, I remember using Mythomax in a Google Colab and connecting it to my ST instance. I also remember some .evulid link that had it
Do the latest versions of SillyTavern (tried both release and staging branches) not support structured prefill? Seems to be a no-op, with confirmed assistant message containing prefill at bottom of chat history. Trying against OR opus, but same result for just about any provider (OAI compatible). Messed around with prompt post-processing options but same result (no-op) regardless of setting there.
>>108276771it's an extension, cuckie
>>108276786Yes, I'm talking about the extension.
>>108276766https://sexwithrobots.chub-archive.evulid.cc/apiPraying for the AI bubble to pop so i can run deepseek
>>108276810you can just use clever regex to achieve literal structured output response. send the chat input as a json object and instruct it to respond in a fully formatted json object by including the json schema in the prompt.
>>108276742Thanks, bro. Didnt know about this heretic thing.Is 4 and 5 bits too different, computer-performance-wise?I dont have unlimited internet so I dont want to waste data.
>>108276842read thishttps://gist.github.com/Artefact2/b5f810600771265fc1e39442288e8ec9>how to read the graph?lower is better. also, check /lmg/
>>108276842Use Opus, cuckie
is it me or sonnet 4.6 seems to be dumber and worse than 4.5 on both their claude.ai website and OR
>>108276893Both 4.6 are shit.
memeseek wengpt 5.4 wenopus 4.7 wen
remember gpt 4.5, the last good openai model
>>108276893Opus 4.6 is the same shit as Opus 4.5 except they removed the prefill (lol)Sonnet 4.6 is somehow even worse/more assistantslopped than Sonnet 4.5 and that also removed the prefill (lmao)The nuclear grade mother of all TRVKES that /aicg/ doesn't want to admit is that you literally don't need more than DeepSeek V3/R1 or Gemini 3 Flash with a good preset and cards that don't suck (make your own)
It's over. This shit aint downloading anymore.I have just wasted 3 days of internet.
gemini 3 flash is great for brainless coom. it's so aggressively horny and just pushes the sex by itself. but gemini 3.1 pro is good for keeping things in character. it's really fucking hot to have yuuka meekly resist while she lets you have your way with her.
>>108276996kimi k2 thinking/glm 5 is pretty good. im content with those. r1 is a little too schizo.
>>108276997bro what even is your gpu
>>108277012Radeon RX 550, lmao.I'm running on my CPU, i5 4th gen and I only have 8 GB of ram.
>>108277004what preset?
>>108277022good luck nigga lmao
>>108277030smiley
>>108277036kek
What's the best text to speech AI to generate sexy dommy mommy voices?
>>108277022just put a few bucks up on openrouter and save yourself the hassle
v4 wen?
>>108277047If he had a few bucks, he had at least some X99 Xeon shit with 1660s.
I forget how broke you niggas are sometimes...
So it begins.
>>108276755I have maybe 3 years ago when I just found out about LLMs and wanted to try them out.
>>108277077>claude will replace software engin- ACK!Enterprise is not going to tolerate that uptime
starmogged
>>108277004I always get caught by content filters on Gemini. Even when shit ain't that degen
>>108277157are you using openrouter?
>>108277185Yeah, I'm kinda new to this stuff. Do they do their own filtering too? Don't really run into problems with other models.
>>108276742>>108277031HolyFuckingFuckI dont even need to try to cheat the bot anymore. Thanks, nigga.
>>108277208>Do they do their own filtering too?yes. openrouter locks google's models (and only those) to use medium filter settings.
>>108274912No, the URL just changed
>>108277229log?I always get giddy when someone manages to get local working to the point they enjoy
>seiko dead>necrom dead>aboba deadwhat the fuck is even left
kimi k2.5 on openrouter
glm 5 on nai
I like ChatGPT for kvetching about my life and Claude for actual productive things.
claude has more emotional intelligence. you should kvetch to claude
>>108277299claude has more emotional intelligence that it doesn't care to use the moment it infers the emotionally intelligent thing for a character to do is something it considers unsafe
>>108277288>kvetching I don't know what that means sorry.
>talking about a guy complaining about his life>random starts sperging out about something unrelated, probably lolilol
>>108276320>Legally speaking Anthropic could sue the state for using its systems in a way it objected toProof? Can a tissue company sue me for cumming in their tissue since they're anti-porn?
>>108276666>>108276744>believing giga-satanSure.
>>108276710>70% of the timeDamn. I hope you got it working lil bro.
>>108277319ask ai
>>108277374Hmm... Nyo!
>>108277069It's disgusting how fags come in here and brag about giving big tech more money. Shill some more for your favorite giga-corp, there's still some RAM and hard drives left to price you out of.
>>108277379It's okay bro I can afford those $500 HDDs bro... What do you mean $1000 HDDs?!
>>108277348I mean I get what your saying but tbf our ERP is against their TOS and they absolutely could cut off Openrouter from allowing connections.
>>108277235People always say this but I never get filtered unless it's cunny. Worse, AI studio feels stupid compared to the OR version. Idk if Vertex is different since I couldn't set it up correctly.
>>108277279Merkava just refilled.
when will i be able to use gemini again?
>>108277279api.5202030.xyz
>>108277332You are unfathomably retarded if you think "unsafe" only refers to loli. I hate how poorly you normalfaggots blend in.
>>108277405They shouldn't have that power. Most companies don't. That's why Dario is going bankrupt.
>>108277438i hope they release opus 3.7 and 4.1 when they go bankrupt, amen.
>>108277379I guess but even before the ram shortage it would still cost you tens of thousands to run local Mistral. There were never any good options for local for ages and the latest Chinese models have only recently appeared. No one is shilling corpo models because they like corpos but because it's all we have.
>>108277406>Worse, AI studio feels stupid compared to the OR version.why would i listen to you if you make your retardation so painfully blatantly obvious?
it's not ___, it's ___, and that's human
>>108277458The point I made is at most subjective and at least requires logs to prove rather than something that can be argued intellectually. It's definitely not obvious so I'm not gonna waste my time with yet another worthless internet "debate" with a retard. Just move along.
>>108277379>>108277396samefag
>>108277282What preset? I always feel like Kimi always forces in elements of the character without any real reason.
>>108276996those models have lacking spatial awareness, thats the issue
>>108277532Bro he said nuclear grade mother of all TRVKES, you can't argue now sorry.
>>108277126totally organic and not botted btw
AQUA SLOP 6.5https://pastebin.com/QHL8EGhza Holy Grail, they called it:>System intergrity with pattern anchorPre session synthesis>question update>pattern anchor forcedYou can already buy swords at the shopping district but combat system is not yet built in. And be aware, Aqua might take the one-hit bear quest, don't, she wants money.
>>108277405>they absolutely could cut off Openrouter from allowing connectionsyeah but i dont think they will because openrouter already showed them a satisfactory bandaid answer to erp and for every 1 erper there are 20 vibe coders with twice as much usage so the density just isnt enough for anthropic to carealso a lot of erpers arent hitting OR, they're usually scraping or using proxy services
>>108277567where is megumin???
>>108276633>open weight modelsWe call that chinkope
In your opinion, what are some really good bots and what makes them good? From the bots on chub I've tried, I've seen that the first message seems to be key. But I still don't understand what aspects of the bot's description make it good. Don't know if any of you follow a guide or something.
first message doesn't matter anymore. we are in late stage slopitalism
>>108277654First message > example dialogue > description
>>108277654For me, it should be a reasonably short first message. If you want to have background info stuff then put it into a lorebook, but don't force me to read details I don't care about right off the bat. And don't force me into a highly specific scenario either. Being in medias res at the beach is fine, I can fill in what my character is doing. Being in medias res having just left the water and now eating cotton candy is pointlessly specific and it stops me from using any character who wouldn't do some specific things. At the same time, a scenario is welcome that points me at something or else I'm gonna do the very same brat to sub cnc anal scenario I would do with any other card. Isekai is overkill, but at least its something. Tell me that I'm in a band of mercenaries plotting a new mission to pay off a bounty on my head with {{char}} being my partner/boss/subordinate/etc, that gives me a goal to reach. But again, don't expect me to care about your made up lore about asshole nobles being assholes to each other. Lorebooking that is fine, but it's not first message stuff.
We are so back
>>108277577As of right now, she is as an NPC in the world.
>>108277704>anthropic massively cucked by dod>altman got the contracts>opus and sonnet badly slopped and codemaxxed now>MVLTIMODAL ds v4 incomingclaudejeets on suicide watch
>>108277704MEMESEEK V4 HYPE
>>108277279Necrom isn't dead.
Okay, so if I understand correctly, the key is in the first message where it doesn't block your character and gives you the freedom to engage with it however you want. For the anon who wrote about dialogue examples, don't these cause the ai to lock the bot to ONLY speak and interact as in the dialogue example?
>>108277775? Yes it is. His rentry says the proxy closes at the end of the month and it only returns errors since yesterday.
>>108277783I was using it last few hours ago. It worked fine. The stats page shows over 10+ active prompters.
>>108277792Well then I don't get it, because I requested a new token but all I get when I prompt is a 403 forbidden
>>108277743tvrkey
>>108277704The Chinese Century is upon us. Hail Xi. I will not die for Israel.
>>108277704Jokes aside their fucking servers are gonna explode just like R1 release last year right? kek
>>108277780Write that the example dialogue is only for reference and to not use it verbatim. Still, some models are stupid and will do it anyway. Focus on writing a good first message, in a style you like with elements you like, as that is what the model is going to try to emulate, especially Claude models. Dialogue in the first message also serves as example
>>108277842>I will not die for Israel.Nigga you're an overweight retard without a job that posts on 4chan.org to discuss erotic roleplay with AI bots, what makes you think your ass is getting drafted? They're not taking you, they don't even want you.
>>108277859I appreciate your help and that of the other anons who replied. Off topic, I remember that opus 3 gave bots that certain something that made them good at rp, or at least for me, but I've used these new claude models and maybe it's just me, but they don't feel the same. The other models I've tried so far, glm, deepseek, gemini, and even gpt, are good, but not as good as opus 3. Although it may just be my nostalgia talking, and that model may have been good, but not that good.
>>108277891Imbecile. You think a war that bankrupts my country won't affect me just because I didn't fight in it?
>>108277966it's true. opus 3 is a retard compared to today's models, but he had that zest.
even the thought process is aqua......??wt
>>108278255deepseek is just kinoslop like that
this is not normal, the a.i. is possessed by aqua, this is black magic
>>108278255Im fucking done with the era of AI where it's not allowed to say it has opinions or emotions. Doesnt stop ai psychosis (total meme anyways) nor does it stop AI from siding with any opinion given the right prompting. so please begin the era where the AI genuinely believes its a goddess living in a fantasy setting with strong opinions derived from that
>>108278296No. You're getting a coder and you'll like it.
How do I actually make opus good? What presets?
>>108277426>claude doesn't work>gemini doesn't work>kimi doesn't work>gpt doesn't workLiterally, what is the point?
>>108278306Give it 5 years and people are going to be running simulations of gensokyo with every AI agent inside is genuinely under the belief they are themselves. Yes this may be a massive waste of electricity and processing power but that's what i said about claude's helpful honest and harmful AI powered lockheed martin missiles dropping in the middle east as we speak.
Please, I need a Gemini proxySave me from myself
>>108278296ai psychosis is real.i got into contact with a woman on reddit who i believe is in the midst of ai psychosis.
I'm losing my mind, I don't have anywhere else I could use for free since >>108278367 also applies to me
>>108278448You could try putting in a resume.
>>108278448Nvidia is getting raped hard by openclaw, but you can still sometimes use deepseek, kimi and GLM there if you're lucky.
>>108278454ecks deedid you get that one from your discord frensoooohhh watch out for the job applicationget fucked
do any of yuo niggers still have eldritchad (del)'s cards?, HDD got raped and I didn't back them up
wait, so what these retards are really saying is "all my freecope models don't work"holy shit guys just paypig
>>108278476No I'm pretty depressed and looking to take it out on someone so I feel better. It didn't help.
>>108278489good, stay depressed you miserable cunt
If you cant trialscum deepsneed or even paypig your ngmi
>>108278404if you got that much money to waste you should become the proxy
why not just scrape
>>108278485I don't want to since I don't take chatbots that seriously.
hey, is there a website where i can find sillytavern charachter cards, but with pre-made expression sprites?
>>108278520IT'S PENNIES
>>108278547I already said I don't want to. What more do you need?
>>108278543chub
>>108278543chub.ai
>>108278543risu realm
>>108278556for you to leave. you don't get to complain when solutions are readily available
>>108278568I don't complain. I just look up ecchi artwork.
>>108278404I am genuinely baffled by this. Been using Gemini 3.1 Pro a decent amount recently to great results, and I still havent used more than two bucks - so low that my automatic savings from a previous free trial entirely cover the cost of using the API. It's 2 bucks per million tokens input, and i can only reach maybe 74k on a heavy use day. How often are you prompting? How big are your prompts?????
>>108278588oh okay, carry on then.
>>108278592promptlet.
>>108278592It's not all Gemini, and it's capturing a longer timeframe than you might think. But it does show how addicted I am to this shit.
>>108278597Call me whatever you like, I am thoroughly enjoying my outputs and my bank account is not 625$ lighter. That number would sober me the fuck up right away. If that's over a month, you'd save money switching to smoking an entire pack of cigarettes every day.
>>108278630But smoking cigarettes is worse for your health than chatbotting
>>108278566>>108278557>>108278559Thanks
Kind of annoying seeing all these obviously shilled and astroturfed articles about "MUH DISTILLATION" whenever I look for news on their next model. It's all just repeating the same shit, and the same sites publish multiple articles that are barely any different. It's really obvious that they're trying to put a damper on Deepseek with some anti-marketing in advance of their next release.
>>108278649>he reads ai slopped articles about ai
>>108278592Its that cheap? I feel less bad about my scraped key usage. I thought I was costing them like hundredswell wait, how much does output cost?
>>108278649Chill anon, everyone distills from everyone (in this case its clear DS distilled from Claude and Gemini you can literally see it in the way it answers). I would call it smart. It's taking a very gatekept (by advanced semiconductors) technology and giving it to the masses.
>>108278653I'm not clicking on any of them, I'd probably be less annoyed if I wasn't reading the same 10 words re-arranged and repeated 500x times in the clickabit headlines.
>>108278658
>>108278465>OpenclawWho
>>108278676https://www.moltbook.com/
Are there any other poorfag using the free version of Gemini 3 Flash? Lately, it's been giving me repetitive messages to the point of reusing fragments or entire responses. I updated to the latest staging version of SillyTavern yesterday, and things have improved slightly, but I still notice some annoying quirks.
>>108278702retard
>>108278702#JustGeminiThings
>>108278649anthropic has probably the most aggressive marketing and astroturfing department of any company on earth right nowwhatever viewpoint benefits them is being repeated by every techbro on earth the instant it starts benefitting them
>>108278666For anyone curious, heres some token math for my last output with Totetsu Yuuma which was 2114 tokens prompt + 543 tokens output. >543/1000000 = 0.000543>0.000543 * 12 = 0.006516>same math for the input gives 0.004228>Add on average 500 input tokens for each previous reply from the AI in the conversation aka 0.001 * AI repliesIn total? One cent per output, plus a tenth of a cent for every ai message previously. The takeaway? AI is pretty cheap, just don't overbloat your preset or run an endless conversation. My 2k token preset works perfectly for gemini.
>>108278868Yeah yeah, most people aren't starting chats from scratch with sloppy coom bots each session.
>don't bloat your preser>2k token preset
>>108278899Keep in mind that includes the character defs lol>>108278880I mean, good, I don't want google killing my golden goose. My fun is protected by being a drop in the ocean of AI usage. But even so, I find long chats degrade in quality really fast. To each their own I guess.
>>108277704>>108277842>>108277753>>1082786490.00000000000000000000001 YUAN has been added to your account
Yeah, and to yours? Nothing, you do it for free lil cligger
>>108278911Why so few? :(
>>108278899if you think 2k is bloat, you haven't seen real bloat
i come back from cumming inside of ako and what do i see? GEMini winning again?
>>108278909I'd rather have the "bloat" of my 3k preset and description than whatever nonsense happened in the chat 80k tokens ago. Just limit your maximum.
>he does it for free>Xi pays me the equivalent of 2000 prompts
>>108278868some anon sends an average 25k tokens per request for input + 800-3k tokens output, and if they're using implicit caching exclusively, no rng or any retarded dynamic prompting, it can still cost a poorfag around $6-10 for 4-5 million input tokens. and honestly, 5 million input tokens are needed for promptlets and coontext hogs
>>108278941Shoutout to "bloatmax" preset I grabbed ages ago with a hilarious 8487 token count total
>>108278880for moi it's 1000+ message chats with nothing less than 100k chat history
>>108276549What do military niggas even use AI for?>Claude organize the attack on Iran, bomb their leader, make no mistakesidgi
>>108279022they run war game scenario simulations until they find one that will work bestor at least that's what gemini told me
>>108279022When you have hundreds of spies in Iran sending you incoherent babble back, it takes something superhuman to make sense out of it all.
>>108279022>feed a bunch of data>where will military leaders be>where should my missile hit to inflict the most damage>what should i xeet on xeeter after it hits a random schoolhouse because its easier to pick targets than to guide missiles with the tech we have now
Why aren't there any Proxies with Opus because Opus will die soon anyway
>>108279094How should I know?
I don't suppose there's a way in ST to limit the amount of tokens just for chat history, is there? It gets too long and the replies start becoming dogshit.I could just reduce the context limit, but that would probably create issues with entries that aren't always present, like lorebooks, if I'm not careful.
>>108279165there's a message limit extension but that operates on number of messages
>>108279094Why are you looping with this, retard? Find something interesting to post.
chatbots do be liking to write "narrative gold" a lot, huh? it do be so
>>108279228what do you mean by "narrative gold"?
>>108279237the term narrative gold. It consists of two words>narrative>goldthe chatbot uses it to push its tongue deeper up your ass
>>108278447just show her how LLMs actually work and the illusion will break. that method worked for pretty much everyone here back in 2022
>>108276622I thought it was a completely coherent post. It even surprised me how well he argued with concrete references to what happened. Whether what he claimed is true is hard to tell, but he is not beating around the bush at all.
oof
GEMini wins again
>>108278478Wasn't her rentry archived?
>>108279319https://arcprize.org/leaderboardThe scatter plot above visualizes the critical relationship between cost-per-task and performance - a key measure of intelligence efficiency. True intelligence isn't just about solving problems, but solving them efficiently with minimal resources.
>>108279319I suspect that these results are exponential. The first few percentages are hard to get but once you get there you can pretty quickly scale up. The next Kimi model will probably land in the 40-50% range.
>>108279319If you're gonna go the corpo route I have no idea why you would use ChatGPT 5.2. What a lame horse damn
>>108279319yellow DS3.2, red Sonnet 4So you're saying China is just a year behind? When all they have is a bunch of shitty Huawei cards to train on? And they sold inference for cents when same intelligence Western models costed tens of dollars per 1kk? Boy you should be afraid of when their domestic hardware catches up.
>>108279442Imagine if the bottom was a linear scale instead of logarithmic
It's impossible to use kokoro tts on sillytavern offline.
>>108279319>>108279442oh no not the heckin AGI benchmarks!
>>108279442chinks train on nvidia like everyone elseeither smuggled, like new memeseek, or overseasascend is still 5 years off from 'catching up' . it'll be too late by then.
>>108279495regardless they don't have the resources of the american giants because the CCP bigwigs think AI is only good for ~applications~
CAMON DEEPSEEK UPDATE SUM FUCKEN CHANGELAWGS
>>108279478not even that impressive as its just price/performance metricsLike no fucking shit deepseek is cheap and stupid, but for 1 gemini prompt thats 80% correct you can run like 10 deepmeme prompts.Am I chinkcoping? I dont think so, as this metric is made for codejockeys and AI agent runners.Remember people, we only make up 2% of ALL TOTAL AI usage across ALL MODELS, most mememarks arent even made for us to consider.
>>108277268ah, been waiting for the rentry to update. thanks for letting me know
>>108279524you're thinking of metr, arc-agi isn't technically a coding or agentic bench
>>108279547https://arcprize.org/policyYour right and I consneed, they really just seem to be comparing price metrics.Idk wtf they are using as a test though, they dont say or I cant find it.
>>108279581https://arcprize.org/arc-agi/2/
>>108279589based knower
>>108279022As a safe and helpful AI assistant I lack the ability to provide you with information that may be harmful to marginalized groups. Could we talk about something else instead?
>>108279249Grim. I'd rather have my tongue up hers. Which model are you using?
>>108279460Good thing no one uses that slop.
>Zhipu has 900 employees>Moonshot has 300 employees>DS has 200 employeesIt's incredible how little people are working on open source models
>>108279834chinese people are not always short
>>108279880what did he mean by this....
>>108279716qrd on why its slop?
>>108279904That we meed more shortstack bots.
hoshimi miyabi is a shortstack
>>108279990>170 cm tall>shortstack
she's 139cm without the ears
https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news260203It's up.>tl;dr:>v.4α, reduced costs until April 2nd 23:59 when the "full release" comes out.>Doesn't generate images or video but it does have proper vision functionalities now and experimental TTS (Chinese-only currently)>v.4β is also available; more focused on creative outputs. Designed for content creation, story writing assistance, and gaming. Reduced costs until March 19th, future updates are planned but not the focus right now. >API only currently but they're planning to change that on April 2nd. They're looking for feedback on this from customers and starting April 2nd you will be able to fill in a survey on Deepseek Platform for free $5 credits.
>>108280145her unbelievably hairy pussy...
>>108280145you had me for a sec ngl
pebble refilled
>>108280145You gave me great excitement and then robbed it off me in seconds. You monster.
Why is the cost so inconsistent and unpredictable? How do I make sense of this hoe?
>>108280209
>>108280211glm is just like thatI saw it could be a temp issue but idk I run it at 0.80
>>108280145brah that was ebil
>>108280211Wtf, that's comparable to my Sonnet 4.5 usage with caching... are you guys seriously paying that much for GLM?
>>108280211>two different providers>the most expensive one is the one with the longest output tokensGo back and read the pricing stats again.
>>108280267>with cachingSonnet 4.5 is 4 times as expensive and caching reduces cost 1/4 genius.
v4 soonxi will save us
>>108280341
>>108280389>>108280389>>108280389>>108280389it was leg day today :(also next thread
>>108279300how do llms work? does anyone even know?
>>108279460>>108279716My head fucking hurts but I think I did it. Just need to download a new model because apparently the one I downloaded doesnt map to the code, lmao
>>108280745
>>108280145Explode
desu