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Does physically pulling the plug out of an off appliance actually save electricity?
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depends on the appliance
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yes

i am not sure how precise in what order assembling and disassembling things like laptop should be done

like connect cord to laptop, connect cord to transformer, connect transformer to power cord connect power cord to wall socket
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>>108275622
denko-chan sexo
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>>108275622
Technically yes but in most cases the amount saved is insignificant.
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>>108275622
The capacitors on the Wi-Fi cracking chip usually last about a week, so you have to pull it out for at least that long. Otherwise it'll continue drawing power internally.
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>>108275622
for devices on stand-by, yes,
I calculated I saved $100 a year if I turned off everything fully and have nothing on stand-by
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No the electricity just goes somewhere else
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>>108275622
If you live in a third world country where electric companies constantly fuck you in the ass and fire from electricity is common then yes.
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Think it depends on what is plugged in.
Plug a phone charger in and listen closely, you can hear the little electrons whining.
Probably just any sort of transformer since they are pretty much short circuits.
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>>108276277
Is your time worth nothing? How much time did you spend doing that shit for a year straight? You could have used that time to improve yourself and make yourself more marketable, which would earn you more than $100/yr
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>>108276277
Your calculations must be incorrect or your house has massive amount of devices
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>>108275622
>Does physically pulling the plug out of an off appliance actually save electricity?
Eating power vs not eating power. You do the math anon.

As to how much is saved, as another anon suggests, it'll depend on the device. Some have high parasitic draw...

Connect all the cables then plug into wall, then hit the power switch. If you aint got a switch on the plug, and arcing will be happening away from the electronics and the wall plug should be cheapest part to replace.

>>108276338
>How much time did you spend doing that shit for a year straight?
NTA....
But if that was automated, it shouldn't take that long.

>>108276345
Or there's several devices that are insanely inefficient
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>>108276401
How do you automate such a thing without using electricity for the switches assuming they are IoT devices?
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>>108276401
>Connect all the cables then plug into wall, then hit the power switch. If you aint got a switch on the plug, and arcing will be happening away from the electronics and the wall plug should be cheapest part to replace.
was meant >>108275657
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>>108276338
>finished using device
>turn device off
Wow, such a waste of time
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>>108276459
Your argument is in bad faith and you know it. Everyone turns shit off. Nobody runs around unplugging everything before bed
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>>108276439
>without using electricity for the switches assuming they are IoT devices?
In theory a lot of this can be mechanically timed...

But you're lookin' at it all wrong, anon. The metric is the power at the wall. You can use power if you're not taking it from there. Granted, a battery is likely to be charged from - but this can happen when a switch is activated anyway.

Runnin' a timer or w/e to determine if it should be on/off typically don't take much juice.

>>108276468
>Nobody runs around unplugging everything before bed
I've seen it anon... I've seen it.
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>>108275622
>>108276277
anons, why the fuck aren't you running a few solar panels in fucking 2026? do thirdies really?
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>>108276522
The energy a battery stores isn't free. You pay for it and then use it later
None of this shit takes much juice and my point is it takes so little that any time you take trying to lessen the already negligible juice is wasted time, unless you admit your time is worth absolutely nothing
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>>108276542
>You pay for it and then use it later
Kinda how batteries work. Yeah.

>None of this shit takes much juice
Does it take more than chargin' that battery?

>the already negligible juice
Some things a a picoWatt, some are an entire Watt. Some are tens of Watts. Drips can and do regularly form puddles.

>unless you admit your time is worth absolutely nothing
IF this is "just happening" how much of my time is being wasted, precisely?
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>>108276570
>Kinda how batteries work. Yeah.
You didn't seem to know that based on your previous response

>Does it take more than chargin' that battery?
Not in any capacity that's above trivial

>Some things a a picoWatt, some are an entire Watt. Some are tens of Watts. Drips can and do regularly form puddles.
None of it matters enough to spend any time trying to rectify. If you buy a mechanical cutoff switch, it will probably take you decades to pay it off with the "saved money"

>IF this is "just happening" how much of my time is being wasted, precisely?
Another bad faith argument. I have no idea, but you knew that already.
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>>108276594
>You didn't seem to know that based on your previous response
You can ofc evidence this?

>Not in any capacity that's above trivial
Which aligns strongly my point that the cost of running this battery can easily outweigh the cost of switching on/off devices - *especially* if you factor in your time of manually turning on/off devices...

>robably take you decades to pay it off with the "saved money"
Wager that depends heavily on both the device in question and what you actually pay for the energy.
If like me you don't actually pay for the energy then it can be of equal value in simply not discharging the energy for no reason.

>Another bad faith argument.
No. That was the argument entirely, the automation meaning you don't have to waste your time any.
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>>108275622
When you're solving a maze and you go down a short dead end path and then retrace your steps, that's inefficient and wastes your time. That's exactly what electricity has to do when it goes down the plug of an appliance that isn't turned on. It's a dead end. It has to go back. What a waste.
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>>108275622
Yes, but the savins is insignificant.
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>>108276277
>turning off leds saves $100 a year
Nigga, you must be really bad at math.
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>>108277183
>Nigga, you must be really bad at math.
Evidence his math is based purely on LEDs?
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>>108275622
Depends on the appliance.
A stove sure. There is a vampire drain on at all times.
I always flip the breaker after I am done using my stove . Also prevents me accidentally burning my house down.
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>>108277440
So you're just full o shit and just make up shit as you go along to suit your current rhetoric.
Got it.



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