Personal computing is dead.
>>108278792>at account setupYou have your PC tied to an account anon? Also, amerifag issue.
>>108278837just dont live in California or NY
>>108278792It's simple. Just stop supporting california and they'll stop pushing for this within a year when all business grinds to a halt.
I thought people were saying the age verification thing was Christian conservatives. Why is California doing it?
>>108278938That age verification is for porno in places like texas. This one is for the OS and is part of CIANIGGERS trying to track everything and everyone online. It's going to be like discord where you scan in your ID to run windows, ios, android, linux. But if the companies simply say fuck you and just refuse to service california customers they will fold in a day.
>>108278956Yeah but what is their justification to their liberal voters who are against age verification
>>108278930business will go on as usual>>108278894>just bury your head in the sand bro, if you just close your eyes the problems of the world will go away broManchild's mentality
>>108278960>what is their justificationkeeping the children safe
>>108278985Liberals are the ones who want free love, drugs, and no rules.
>>108278985It's always about "think of the fuck trophies" - it works too, that's why they keep using it.
>>108278792If operating systems gets mandatory age verification, will software like browsers be able to interface/use the token? I'm not a supporter of this age verification bullshit, but surely this is preferable to handing over your data to a million different services.
>>108278999liberals are hypocrites
>>108278792wtf i was told the charming white guy with a white wife and white children and a white dog was my ally against the fat faced chud with a brown wife and brown children and brown dog why would my fellow aryan do this to me??
Age verification does not stop fortune from printing quotes of Adolf Hitler. Child-friendly systems are not simply a matter of age-verification.
>>108279046Both of them can be bad nigga
>>108279061I was told only one of them was bad and the other was good.
>>108278792Thank YHWH
How does Gov. Hair Gel plan to enforce this?
>>108278792California doesn't hold jurisdiction over linux. Free open source software combined with globally collaborative internet makes it literally impossible to regulate or enforce this short of starting a thermonuclear war that brings our level of technology to what it was 100 years ago.
>>108278792*cooms everywhere in sheer joy*
>>108279130Explain this to the officer that will come get your license for that pc mate
>>108279144It's impossible to even begin to formulate a system that makes it possible for an officer to come find you for somehow violating this.
>>108278792Linux should refuse to comply. What are they gonna do? Knock on our doors and force us to uninstall it?
>>108279162The yookay did so quite easily.>oi then you got a tele in there do ye?
>>108279189Television, which depends on connection to a centralized broadcasting network, is miles different from a general purpose microprocessor, and that's before I even bring up the fact that you could just have an offline computer.
>>108279205>the internet isn't a centralized broadcasting networkThey harass you for just owning a TV so the offline argument won't matter. They're just going to shoot you in the head and drag you into a mobile crematorium is all, deal with it.
>>108279215I would shoot people like you in the head and not lose a minute of sleep over it.
>>108278792>This software is not intended for use in Californiacase closed
>>108279069There's a lot of retarded people out there, it's best not to believe them.
>>108279235discrimination is ill eagle
>>108279245State is not a protected class under the 1964 civil rights act. :^)
>>108278837every computer you own has at least one account
>>108278792Code is speech. You can't force an open source dev to implement a feature anymore than you can force someone to say "Israel is our greatest ally."
>>108279245Not discrimination
>>108278792lolCome and put age verification into my Debian system. Let's go, I dare you!
>>108279221That's great. They just used ChatGPT to drop a bomb on your head though.
>certain numbers are illegal
>>108279275>website refuse to display because your browser cant access the required age api from your OS in your path
leftist globohomo strikes again
>>108279280Pi contains every cp image ever produced zip encoded somewhere in its number series.
>>108279297Web browsers are not operating systems, tourist anon.
>>108279304pi doesn't contain every number sequence
>>108279297I don't know why all you niggers are freaking out, clearly one point of local age verification is infinitely superior to every site using their own third party data harvester.
>>108279312try reading >the required age api from your OSOS means Operating System, anon.
>>108279324>cancer is superior to AIDS
>>108279317>infinite is finite
>>108279324How about politicians leave parenting to parents
>>108279348and how is that going to help them monitor and shut down posts critical of israel?
>>108279355It's California they're more concerned about the LGHDTV+ types
>>108279327The law is not "websites are required to implement age verification" but "OS need to ask your age at account setup".So you do>adduser anonAnd your OS is required to>Confirm your age: _
>>108279324I am creating my own Linux distribution. Newsom is not telling me what to implement in it.
>>108279362lmao nice try
>>1082793401/3 is 0.33333333 infinite, yet it doesn't contain 1234infinite doesn't mean every sequence
>>108279383>he doesn't know irrational numbers
>>108279396He does, that's why he knows pi doesn't contain every number sequence. End of discussion.
>>108279365Or just do nothing because a guy from Indonesia making pull requests for one of the hundreds of linux distros doesn't have to do shit and can just call california judges a bunch of faggots who can tongue his anus.
>>108278792>Politicians>Not understanding computers since 1951
>>108279409Pi is irrational that means its decimal expansions are non-terminating and non-repeating.Learn math.
>>108279421Their knowledge about computers doesn't go beyond MacOS, Windows and Red Hat.
>>108278792Californians deserve this sleazeball faggot
Ok government niggers, want some real advice on how to do this in a realistic way that carries some chance of success?>new federal law(s) classifying all integrated chips as controlled material requiring licenses to purchase and sets up a national registry tracking them by serial number like the firearm one you have to do when buying a gunThat's step 1. There's a lot to go after that, but let's take this 1 step at a time. If this step can't be done, the government has no path to regulating computers.
>>108279382Nice of them to support Greece, not sure they need it though
>>108279472Just need to track the CPU that's enough. Require a TPM like ship that hashes the CPU and sends it to government server.>that carries some chance of successIf there was a chance of success for that, China would already have it.
>>108279509>shipwhy did I type ship
>>108279509>just need to track the CPU that's enoughASIC/FPGAs :^)
>>108279027Browsers already allow pages to use Windows passkeys like encrypted keys or fingerprints to log in. Using a systemwide id-verification isn't hard if there is an API available.
>>108279525>ASIC/FPGAs :^)@grok eli5 to him why ASIC can't replace general purpose CPUs.
>>108279559You are really naive if you think people wouldn't use them as a workaround if the government cranked up draconian laws on CPUs only. I'm trying to be charitable and put myself in the shoes of a tyrant.
>>108279435still wrong, you should read the all wikipedia page you're larping from. There's no proof that pi is normal, so no, once again, not every number sequence.
>>108279472Even if they did do that people would quickly learn how to make their own. With conductive plastics and an inkjet and a UV light you can already make 5000 transistor chips over a weekend. And I assume it would only get better from there if there was a real ban. People would probably have PDP-11 tier ICs after a few years, there will probably be some CNT-ink design that anyone can download and print a 1MHz chip. Of course in reality if any state/country started tracking ICs like guns their economy would collapse IF people didn't just buy from other states/grey/black market.
>>108279618Ok now they've banned and criminalized plastics, printers, and UV lights. Why do you think a dying regime is just going to let you win on its way out?
>>108279576ASICs are designed for doing one task exceptionally well, not for general purpose computing.
>>108279317The digits of pi contain the ascii digits of the true story of your birth, life, and death.
>>108279650Then design an ASIC to do general purpose computing exceptionally well, retard.
>>108279607Infinitely non-repeating means it contains every possible number sequence.
>>108279576They will use the impossibility of detection or enforcement to ratchet everything up in V 2.0
>>108279659Translate "ASIC" into plain English, buttface.
>>108279472in 2025 1.05 trillion ICs were soldCPUs to guns is 22:1MCUs to guns is 1,750:1ICs to guns is 52,500:1Just DROS applied to CPUs would cost billions
>>108279678MAKE THE SPECIFIC APPLICATION GENERAL PURPOSE COMPUTING
>>108279640People already have this stuff is the difference, someone has to pay to confiscate it all
>>108279668No it does not. Non‑repetition doesn’t force completeness. Think of an infinite, non‑repeating book.It could still avoid ever using the word “banana.”It could avoid every word starting with “Q.”It could avoid entire categories of patterns.
>>108279696Yes and they'll do it because they hate you and want you to die with them.
>>108279691>SPECIFIC APPLICATION>GENERAL PURPOSE
>>108279705This is California, not the Russian government Artyom
>>108279725>California isn't a repressive one party totalitarian regimelol ok
>>108279722Yes, like how a LLM does the specific application of predicting the next token, but that can be used for general purpose intelligence.
>>108279725Artyom is a Ukrainian-origin name btwand I know you only know it because of Metro:)
>>108279697>banana>QBoth would appear at some point.
>>108279737>but that can be used for general purpose intelligence.It can not. There is no intelligence in an LLM.
>>108278979buddy you have no idea how bad things truly arethe problems are practically endless, and if you knew that, you'd know you can't not ignore them
>>108279758"But there is no rule that says an imitation cannot defeat the original." -Emiya Shirou
>>108279758wdym? there is no training data on tasks like arc or arc2. All you need is brute force search and enough data (computer generate is fine) to "overlay" the game tree and computers will beat humans every time.
>>108279768>some bullshit I saw in an anime when I was a teenager.
>>108279805and?
>>108279748nopenon-repeting doesn't mean what you think it meansyou're thinking of normal which pi hasn't be proven to be so far
by my calculations in 50 years the value from JUST ad revenue ONLY for people under 18 will be 16.1 Trillion (2026 dollars) annually. Which means about ~220K per person in the age group. Even if a fatcat skims half that's still 110K for doing fuck all, in just industry. At a certain point the benefits are greater than the harms. You'd be a fool to stand in the way.
>>108279848in just 1 industry*There are many more data collection industries, AI enables many more, but we will just assume AI is the growth driver.
I never heard anyone in China being required to verify their age when installing an OS. And I thought China was the worst on these kind of things.
>>108279815Not an argument.
>>108279297As valid as this sounds, the idea is that its hitting a local API for confirmation. Local. Spoof a response. As long as it's only looking for a true or false of whether or not you are over 18 and not an actual ID or identifying token you're fine. Everything at this point is framed as just providing proof you're old enough with some sort of backup to the claim. Yeah, it seems likely it can and will change, but if it doesn't then I don't see why you couldn't just spoof a response.
>>108279855>I will just quote some bullshit>That makes me right
>enforcement mechanism?>uhhhh yeah so basically... um... like yeah
>>108279858>spoof a responseUm sir literally every program that could enable that will be age gated. Virtualization will be age-gated too. sh will be banned too, you can use kiddy shell or kysh for short
>>108279876Why wouldn't this work? just make a "kiddy shell" that can only run approved commands, not let the user write codes.
>>108279867Not an argument.
>>108279888yours
>>108279027>If operating systems gets mandatory age verification, will software like browsers be able to interface/use the token?tpm 2.0
>>108279252At system level? Nope. Zero. On the browser? Yeah I have accounts logged there, as soon as they ask I'd I'm dropping them.
>>108279875>>enforcement mechanism?>>uhhhh yeah so basically... um... like yeahnow is drugs enforced? Or child pornograohy? when pedos or junkies get found with ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3E70efb0K6I
>>108279902I accept your concession.
>>108279932yours
Maximally concerning>>108279472
>>108279950>>108280000ai bot slop is not an argument either
>>108278979i didnt say thatmove to dallas or something
>>108278792>watch porn and compile kernel in your homeid necessary>vote in electionsid? that's racist
