Arch so completely dominates that even anti-arch fags use Arch because there is no alternative

>>108288803

This is what winning looks like.

>>108290930
>>108290936
>steer clear of the AUR
The point is to not have this limitation in place
>>108290942
No need, I already spent a non trivial amount of time on these and I don't believe there is a single point to read only root other than avoiding the immediate restart process I talked about before.

>>108290972
That poster is retarded anyway. Xfce hasn't been a low spec DE in years. Might as well just use Plasma instead of a DE from the 90s.

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>>108290972
Arch is not a serious distro.
But if you can tolerate a non-serious distro, then Arch is decent for what it is.

>>108291002
>The point is to not have this limitation in place
It's not a meaningful limitation at all. I use Arch just fine without the AUR, been using it for over a year now.

>>108291004
and have krashes, no thanks

>>108291016
Funny thing about the KDE Crash meme: It only happens on Arch. It's the only distro it happens on which says more about the Arch packagers than KDE.

>>108291024
bs, i hade it happen on other distros too

>>108291009
I try to avoid the aur as much as I can, but for some things I need it.

>>108291027
like?

>>108291009
Ok, you do. I found it to be useful.

CachyOS turned Arch into a normie distro. It's not le epic hardcore linux anymore.

>>108291026
No it doesn't take your meds

>>108291024
For me it only happened on Kubuntu. Fedora and Debian were always crash-free. Don't know about Arch since I have a life, but Manjaro was not crashing even though it had random bugs pop up like the volume sliders not working.

>>108291036
>Arch ceased to exist because Cachy
don't be retarded

>>108291036
It hasn't been "le epic hardcore linux" since Antergos years and years ago.

>>108291036
You're thinking of SteamOS, not CachyOS.

once again updating my system has changed something, this time my keyboard repeat speed is not the same as before, man fuck this I think debian bros were right

>>108291037
>t. coping ktard
xfce won btw

>>108291048
Antergos was a broken piece of garbage. It's its successor, endeavourOS that made it simpler to install.

>>108290966
any good distro finally?

>>108291029
Not him but there's random stuff in there like freetype patches, some programs without the need for flatpaks, web browsers that aren't firefox, stuff like that.
It is not -needed- but it certainly is convenient.

>>108291069
arch with xfce

>>108291069
Yes >>108278066

>>108291111
Fuck off Atomic niggers I'll never use your Dollar General macOS slop

>>108291029
I have dxvk and python 3.12 from aur

>>108291111
I don't
want
your pecker
in my root

>>108291126
https://www.autismspeaks.org/

https://x.com/shotgunner101/status/2028994025940758648

Arch maintainers better bluntly and openly reject this age-verification shit
Can't believe Ubungo are even entertaining this but then it's a good reason for people to stop using that flaming pile of shit

>>108291167
It's not about what most people want, everything is through sheer force. You -will- take the dick.

>>108291178
that's peak goyim "thinking"
it's always about what people want. if enough people choose not to comply, there is nothing anyone can do. we have sovereignty over this earth, not a group of shitty screechy kikes.

>>108291167
>arch better break the law and get sued just because I hate the law
arch will have to add an install step where you're asked if you're 18+

>>108291182
Right.

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>>108291183
civil disobedience is a thing. plus it's not like arch can't just move out of the jewrisdiction.
host the project out of China for a few years to send the kikes a message.
fuck, you guys are such supine pussies its unreal.
this is a fucking internet-based project you dumb bitch.
what can these fuckers do if we really refuse to comply?
are you giving up ground before we've even got to the battlefield?
fuck is wrong with you. seriously, feel ashamed of what a complete bitch you are.

>>108291195
Ah, the youths

>>108291211
Sure, I'm a youthful 46. Nothing I've said is impossible on a practical level. Just requires some balls and proactive thinking.

>>108291211
also it's "youth". probably a pajeet aren't you

>>108290972
Agreed. I've been using CachyOS for a good while now and I'm not going back to Fedora or Debian any time soon. It completely mogs Mint/Ubuntu and makes Fedora-based distros look like a joke.
I know many will say "cachy is bad just use Arch" but I'm not seeing any reason to do that. It just works.

>>108291221
If you're 46 and still have the anarchist mentality then you're still mentally a child. Arch will not risk getting raped by the governments just to avoid having an 18+ toggle in the OS.
>internet-based project
Almost all Arch maintainers have tied their identity to the project. And being internet based does not prevent governments from tracking people down. Yuzu and Ryujinx were internet based projects and yet Nintendo completely broke them and killed Switch emulation development.

>>108291247
if it works, it works. arch is recommended because of the safety blanket feeling of a community, wiki, easy to google/AI answers, reliability etc. if cachy works for you, just use it, it's always going to be downstream though.

>>108291253
>Arch will not risk getting raped by the governments
you are beyond retarded, there is no way to enforce this

>>108291253
Arch maintainers and devs are mostly not American.

>>108291253
you're low IQ and it shows in how you're unable to game out ways to stick a middle finger at the state and not worry about consequences.
I haven't even thought about it that much and I can think of about 50 ways this project can continue without any kind of state-imposed crap. if you had any spine/balls, you would be more concerned about finding ways to preserve what's been built rather than throwing it away so readily like a cuck. that or you're a kike shill attempting to poison the well here like your kind always do. not interested in discussing further with a mentally-enslaved cuck like you.

>>108291253
also you've already proved you're non-white/jeet/some other form of shit-shade. which is it?

>>108291247
What's your problem with fedora, though? I use both, Arch and fedora, but I would give fedora the edge just because of dnf alone. Easily rolling back updates with two commands is really nice.

>>108291256
>there is no way to enforce this
Of course there is. This is extremely easy to verify and enforce. Dell, Lenovo, Framework, etc. will only be able to ship distros with age attestation or have to cease selling devices with Linux. Any distro which relies on any sort of funding can have it's funds seized by the governments if they're caught skipping or faking age verification.
It's like piracy. Just because you can't stop people from pirating doesn't mean you can't fine the end users and search and destroy the sources.

>>108291262
It doesn't matter. The EU is also trying to push digital surveillance. China would agree with this type of regulation too. And nobody outside of the US, EU and China matters especially when it comes to Linux.

>>108291311
>have to cease selling devices with Linux
your whole premise here is retarded and normgroid. very few people care about buying a device with linux pre-installed.
>Any distro which relies on any sort of funding can have it's funds seized by the governments if they're caught skipping or faking age verification.
not if they're stored in crypto wallets or offshore.

weak arguments.

>>108291311
most raped kikeslave award

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>>108291311
you've earned it.

>>108291311
The EU has privacy regulations like the GDPR. Germany is a country where there was practically no Google street view for a while. Cash is used quite a lot there I heard compared to other countries. The 5 main Arch maintainers (with the master signing keys) are based in Europe. I agree this is no guarantee though. Chat Control is a thing that's being pushed there for example.

>>108291367
Ahh Chat Control, another thing to hate the Danes for.

>>108291367
>The 5 main Arch maintainers
Well 10 actually if including the revokers. They're also all based in Europe.

Also yes you absolutely can not comply with some Californian law if you're European. There's an exact parallel going on right now with 4chan saying fuck you to the UK's laws trying to regulate it.

>>108291284
to me, rolling back is a filesystem feature, not a package manager feature.

>>108291378
i'd like to see them try and control my chat

>>108291284
Arch's package manager is such genuine dogshit I'm convinced it's stockholm syndrome if you don't hate it

>>108291328
>not if they're stored in crypto wallets or offshore.
I'm sorry I didn't realize you were trolling this whole time.

>>108291367
GDPR doesn't mean what you think it means. It doesn't protect you from government regulations. When EU makes a similar law you will be forced to provide your age group to your OS just like you're forced to say you're 18+ when visiting porn websites and just like you're forced to perform a KYC to open a bank account.

>>108291519
>I'm sorry I didn't realize you were trolling this whole time.
one of the most pathetic clapbacks I've ever seen. you're here advocating for cucking to the state and this is the best you've got in response?
all you've done is say how it's hopeless to fight back, you complete kikeslave pussy.

apparmor vs selinux

>>108291542
SELinux is the standard and it's objectively better.

>>108291485
what's wrong with it? i used it for like a week and i remember liking its interactive dependency resolution feature

>>108291564
Arch's package manager was designed in a time when things like dependency resolution was literally a brand new concept. It's barely changed since then, it can't even rollback transactions.

Age verification status?

Finally making the switch to GNU/Linux, setup CachyOS on my thinkpad, immediately realised Plasma runs like shit on it and swapped it out for Xfce. This is comfy shit, but I need to pull my finger out and set this up on my desktop.

>>108291247
>I know many will say "cachy is bad just use Arch" but I'm not seeing any reason to do that. It just works.
I believe the two primary reasons are
1. People don't understand what changes it makes
2. CachyOS repo packages replacing official packages
The first one is a bit of a stupid thing, it's literally just different defaults. Go fucking change them. I've seen someone complain that there's some hardcoded stuff in there and it turns out to be a fucking config file.
The second may have a bit more to it. One of the advantages of EndeavourOS is that it didn't have a repository for anything but a bunch of GUI tools and fucking wallpapers. Otherwise it uses arch official repos for everything. CachyOS has a lot of overlapping packages, but they keep fairly synced.
Otherwise it's just the same bullshit about "well this is getting too popular and bringing in new people, so I dislike it". Or "this is not upstream enough".

>>108291592
>use offline computer
>don't live in commiefornia
shrimple as that

>>108291621
Plasma should run fine on shit hardware once you disable visual effects and file indexing.

>>108291542
AppArmor is much easier to maintain and set up, but SELinux is more fine-grained and flexible.

>>108291635
my T410 was struggling with just one webpage open. I'm tempted to just try an Arch installation to learn more.

i think we as a nation can expatiate the expulsion of california
along with our federal government

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>>108291648
>shoot death beam at you

>>108291589
that's not really telling me much. i'm talking about instances where a dependency can by satisfied by one of several packages and it lets you choose the one you want. i've never seen DNF do that and i've been using it for a decade. package manager rollbacks are irrelevant to me when there's filesystem level rollbacks - arguably even more important on bleeding edge rolling distros

>>108291671
don't tell me you're seriously defending california

>>108291678
i'm joking about the feds shooting a deadly laser at you

>>108291676
>where a dependency can by satisfied by one of several packages
uhhhh, example? I've never heard of this even being a thing outside of retarded shit like LibreSSL.

>>108291676
most of the time I only want to rollback a single transaction, not my entire filesystem. I've been doing shit all day I don't want to do that shit again.

>>108291704
i think it was something pipewire related.

>>108291707
you're relying on that single failed/unwanted transaction to leave your system in a functional enough state to begin with.
>I've been doing shit all day I don't want to do that shit again.
then don't include your /home in the snapshot... that's a fairly basic concept, do you even snapshot bro?

>>108291734
Failed? This isn't 2006 man, dnf tests a transaction first, you can't get failed transactions anymore without a power outage.

>>108291739
not what we're talking about at all, stay out of it autismo

>>108291734
I don't use filesystems that support snapshots to begin with so no, I don't snapshot.
>inb4 you should
The one and only time I tried btrfs (2023) it broke itself so badly that I imaged the broken drive and I'm still waiting to this day for btrfs file recovery tools to be developed so I can recover the data it ate.
>what happened
It managed to corrupt its superblock and delete the other 2 superblocks. I have no idea how. All the data is still on there, in theory.

>>108291734
honestly multiple possible dependencies is such a weird edge issue that I've never even heard of it before now

>>108291764
damn. i'm a ZFS fag and haven't lost any data to it, would recommend

>>108291784
ZFS isn't in tree so I definitely don't want to fuck around with it for the root fs on anything that's not BSD based

>>108291783
there's a similar thing where the same package/dependency is in multiple repos, i feel like DNF just shits itself instead of asking which repo i want to use.

>>108291793
The lack of native integrations is kinda sad, but things like ZFSBootMenu make root on ZFS very comfy indeed.

>>108291795
I've fucked around with that and I've found what happens is it chooses the package with the highest version number unless you exclude the package in the repo file. Yeah it's clunky but it's a (relatively) rare issue.

>>108291764
>It managed to corrupt its superblock and delete the other 2 superblocks. I have no idea how. All the data is still on there, in theory.
i'm sure the btrfs devs would love to hear from you since that sounds exceedingly unlikely to "just happen"
i've done it before (talked to them) back when btrfs was still not really something to be recommended (2014). never stopped using though, it's been solid for ages for me on many drives and multiple machines