>Macbook Neo>A18 Pro (Same as iphone 16 pro)>8GB Ram>$599
>>108292829I can do more on an older Thinkpad with Linux Mint than I could with a fagbook and for way less money
This is ridiculous. 1 year and it will be ovee, just like the 12" macbook
HE'S THE ONE
https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2026/03/say-hello-to-macbook-neo/THIS KILLS THE x86
>>108292829>It's realhttps://www.apple.com/macbook-neo/Unironically over for chromebooks and entry level laptops.
>>108292829>iPhone SoC>8Gb Ram in the big 26yeah fuck off
>>108292829>even more locked downNo thanks. Sticking with M2 and Sonoma.
I can't fucking believe the state of things when I'm unironically considering a fucking macbook. This is just killer.
>>108292829>13 inch>16h battery life>retina display>1080p webcam>It's probably going to be more like 500 once it hit retailersWho cares if it runs like crap, literally every student out there is going to have one of these now
>fingerprint only in 512gb modelwhy
>fucking a series chip for a laptopSo, it's just a browsing machine with a tablet screen
>>108292943It's better than an M1
>>108292919its tempting but i already got enough laptops and pcs at home lol
>>108292829>>108292891>>108292957Just buy a Mac Mini with better specs
>>108292975And a monitor, keyboard, mouse and a power generator?
>>108292829Mark my words, this is gonna be THE normalfag student laptop for years to come. Sure, a 10 year old ThinkPad with Linux is better, but do you really think people living in low income neighbourhoods care? $499 per student is a killer deal for schools on top of the fact that they’re indestructible based solely on the fact that there’s an Apple logo on the back. So it’s gonna be treated like a luxury item, which means no more negroids making TikTok trends out of wrecking Chromebooks.
>>108292829Street shitters of /g/ btfo. There is zero reason to get a Windows machine anymore. Just give up, /g/. Stop being poor for the sake of being poor and embrace being a winner.
no one needs a fucking personal laptop bro its 2026
>usb 2 (480mb)L M A O
Are there any cheap windows laptops with battery life and no fan such as this?
>>108292829>Suddenly Mac becomes an affordable brandThis wasn't on my bingo card
>>108293048yeah my shitpad with linux tranny distro i swear i swear it's good oh god
chromebook is fucking finished
>>108292882This.
>PissbookAt least it doesn't have a notch.
>>108292829>>A18 Pro (Same as iphone 16 pro)AHAHAHAHAHA
>>108292829Why is every new Apple produced marketed to black people now? I thought blacks were the poorest people in America.
I should've bought this instead of an IdeaPad for fuck's sake
how hard is it to use fex/box64 on these stupid computers? the performance is alluringI'm worried about them requiring some stupid bullshit like an e-mail address to log in to the computer with no skip button
>>108293037So like, what do you even use that port for. Only charging? i cant imagine what else you could really use such low speed for.
>>108292984>a power generatorWhat did anon mean by this?
>>108293066A18 Pro is more powerful than Apple M1, albeit this is gonna get gimped by the amount of unified memory.
>>108292829>>108292919it's basically $500 with student discount pricing which doesnt require you to show ID btw, it only disables financing (lol)
For everything you want to do on a laptop, which is basic web browsing, shitposting on 4chan, watching videos, checking emails and typing things. Do you really need anything more when this offers 16 hour battery life when you actually need a portable PC away from your beefy desktop? I really think this is perfect laptop for most people.
>>108293072>fex/box64That's for Linux, this laptop runs macOS, which has Rosetta 2 for x86-64 compatibility, but it's gonna be removed eventually
an m1 or m2 air with 16gb ram is unironically better than this ewaste
>>108293081It's faster than m1, but it's also got decode/encode engines that m1 doesn't have, so even if you did some light editing it would be faster than m1 airs (who also had 8gb of ram).
>>108293087I want to play video games. What games run on this phone?
>>108293091Waiting for a reply from a non-retard
I don't like macOS enough to use it without being able to dual-boot into something else (preferably x86 Windows).
>>108293096Grab a gaming android tablet/phone/retro handheld/switch 2/wait until you get home to your 5090 desktop then
Why is TouchID a premium feature?
>>108292829This looks like ass though? Looks like a tablet with a keyboard attached
>>108292964FAGGOTif you "already got enough laptops and pcs at home lol" then why would this underpowered piece of shit be at all tempting to you? Go read about conspicuous consumption and reflect on the necessity of the dildo up your ass
>>108292829It's $500 if you're not dumb, they don't verify if you're actually a student or not.
>>108292829I didn't buy an HP 14" a few months back that was 16GB/512GB with Lunar Lake for $550 new, so I certainly won't be buying this thing that's worse in every aspect except maybe build quality. I'm not going back to a laptop without IR facial Windows Hello login.
>>108293096You could emulate everything up to PS2/GC with no problems. There are real games on the app store but they'll probably need to run on lowest settings.>>108293136Never get the lowest storage spec. 256 is gonna be cramped unless you literally do everything on a browser.
Deard Lord this announcement BROKE and BLEW the TRANNIES into oblivion it seems, so much seething and dilating going on here hahahahagotta give props to Apple, well done retards, the superior jeet won it seems
>>108293078How are you using it on the go like a laptop otherwise
>8GB of RAM in 2026 for 600 bucks is supposed to be a good deal
EIGHT GIGABYTES OF RAM ONLYEIGHTFOR £600
>>108292829That's a good price but I'm not a poorfag and i don't like apple.
Normal people don't use their computers for anything that needs more than 8gb of ramAlso macs have considerably better ram optimization than windows
>>108293187For what people use MacBooks for? That's reasonable.Maybe it should have had 12GB of RAM to be more in line with a contemporary iPhone Pro but the CPU is sufficient for MacBooking.
Honestly should be laughed into oblivion £300 for 8GB - 256GB Usb 2.0 Macbook would be reasonable but this is madnessnobody should buy this and its not a good deal£600 in 2008 used to buy you the top end / near top end laptops from Apple, even with inflation this is just insane
>>108292829the limited ram sucks, but i'd buy my kids one of these over a chromebook.>usb2this was probably the charging port for an iphone. fixing it would have required modifying the chip and that wasn't happening.also, i read articles this morning talking about the leak and how it had a magsafe connector. "news" websites btfo again.
every kid in america is going to have one of these
>>108293205Chrome with 3-4 tabs uses that much memory I had an 8GB M1 Mac Mini and after 2 years it was just unusable
seven hundred euros
>>108293173>implying anon leaves the house
>>108293220> £600 in 2008 used to buy you the top end / near top end laptops from AppleMacBooks never sold at that price in 2008, let alone the top end models.> The 2.1GHz, 13-inch white MacBook, for a suggested retail price of £699 (inc VAT)£1,150 today> The 2.5GHz, 17-inch MacBook Pro, for a suggested retail price of £1,799 (inc VAT)£2,960 todayhttps://www.apple.com/uk/newsroom/2008/02/26Apple-Introduces-New-MacBook-and-MacBook-Pro-Models/
If this ever gets an Asahi port then maybe it might be made useful.
the fact that it's unified memory is even more worrisome. can this thing run a full OS and play a video in a web browser without going oom
This is really cool. I am thinking who this is for.kids and boomers are all using iphones and ipads, right? they don't seem to even care about having desktop software or a keyboard.employed adults are using a Macbook Air or Pro, that they bought or was given by their employer.so who is the Neo for? college kids who need a laptop to type up their papers, basically.i just did the research on the "ipad alternatives" for fun since some people do that. the base ipad is 11" and the keyboard for it isn't good and it'd be like $500+ together. The good Magic Keyboard is for the Airs and Pros, but the M2 Air is the first 13" model, and it's $500 refurbished + $300 Magic Keyboard = $800so the Neo for $500 is a good choice.refurbished M1 MBA 8/256 is $350-$400, so that will definitely drop to ~$300. slower single-thread versus the A18 Pro though and obviously the battery will be used, and ~5 years less updates, worse webcam, some wear on the chassis.
macs with continuity through iphones and airpods and apple watches is what makes them good. a linux thinkpad could never. 500 bucks is actually very good for a keyboard and trackpad in the ecosystem
>>108293280You are room temp IQ retarded. Every laptop without a dGPU has """unified memory""". While 8GB is pitifully low now, it was the standard for ages in laptops. There is nothing about that retarded apple marketing term that makes it "even more worrisome" besides the fact that it's 8GB of RAM in 2026.
>>108293068they're not. it's marketing for a specific kind of white person.
>>108292829the perfect vibe coding machine
>>108293285all of those schools that bought hundreds of chromebooks a year to give to students? now they can give them apple products. apple supports education customers really well. msm support for macos is good.
>>108293310>running a node app AND claude in a browser window on thisyeah you've got no chance, you're fucked.
>>108293285my mom, almost 70 boomer that loves to watch youtube gossip/news videos, check cooking recipes and do some minor accounting on excel/sheets to remember the old timesher current windows laptop is literally breaking and i believe also has 8gb ram and has never given her trouble, obviously everything else is much inferiorthis might be the last laptop she'll ever own before leaving computers entirely, i would pay $500 for it
Is this good for comp sci student for programming and just learning?I have asus zenbook 14 oled with intel 125h 16 gb ram 1 tb should i sell and be a macfag? Srs
Anons, 8 GB is just this year, next year it's gonna have an A19 Pro chip, which has 12 GB of unified memory. They will not change the price almost certainly, they usually don't do it.
>>108293334no.Install Debian Linux on your Zenbook
>>108293334No you fucking monkey
>>108292829>8GB unified RAM (shared between CPU & GPU)> in 20263 browser tabs and this thing pagefiles itself to death.
>>108293334Do you want to learn about computers? Install arch.Do you want to suck off your professors and graduate with high grades? Get a macbook.Either way, you're never ever getting a job.
>>108292829I'm envious of burgers who can actually get this shit for $671 ($599 + 12% tax), meanwhile in my third world shithole this is gonna be much more expensive
>>108292829>brown handslmao
>>108293231I guess you have a point.I just downgraded this laptop because I wanted to claim its 32GB sticks before my new gaming laptop arrives that has the same amount (so I can sell the laptop and RAM separately for maximum value) and this is already threading closer than I'd like for mostly idle computing. If I tried to do this on just one stick I'd probably be eating my hands.I do think macOS is better about RAM usage than Windows so it's apples to oranges.
>>108292829I guess Tim Apple would literally die if they offered a $699 version with a usable amount of RAM
>>108293334Just buy a MacBook Air instead, even the cheapest config is 16/512 now
>>108293304my statement was in regards to comparing it to my experience using 8gb of non-shared memory in a PC which is a scenario I am more familiar with, and is a disaster in currentyear. i don't care about the marketing term but since i was looking at the spec sheet that was the one i chose to use in my post.from other posts itt it looks like 8gb is as inadequate in mac land as it is in the windows world which stands to reason, I don't think they have anything special going on that would make it otherwise.
>>108292840No you can’t, we’ve been saying that an iPhone is faster than an X230 for like 5 years now. Then all the TikTok kids and unemployed CS majors fell for the thinkpad meme and now they’re more expensive than a macbook
>>108292993The 10 year old thinkpad is not better. The GPU in this thing alone can run games like death stranding easily, so you can imagine how good it is at scrolling and playing videos which old thinkpads suck at because they’re stuck on old ass intel integrated graphics.
>>108292829>8gb>m1-tier performance>600 dollarsan amd laptop would be better
> 8GB of RAMthat's really the only issue, but when it gets updated with the A19 Pro it will get 12GB of RAM, then it will be a fucking great dealright now it's fine only for normie use case
You all keep suggesting ThinkPads as if normalfags buy used laptops. Maybe they do, but only if they absolutely have to or just want to get something with the Apple's logo on it, it's not common otherwise.
>>108292829iToys belong here >>>/toy/
>>108292829IT HAS NO BACKLIT KEYBOARDTHIS IS A DEALBREAKER FOR ALL NORMALFAGS, MACRUMORS IS ALREADY SAYING IT'S SHIT BECAUSE OF THAT
>>108293451they are not toys anymore, they're actually insanely fastthe software sucks so they are basically paperweights for now
>>108292829>Essential Connectivity >MacBook Neo also includes a headphone jack for wired audio.huh?
>>108293468They are able to do things very well but can't execute on that potential because there's barely anything at the top end that makes full use of that power due to their platform paradigm.
>>108293566What? Even both MacBook Air and MacBook Pro have it.
>>108293446some people simply will not bother with used electronics, especially battery powered ones. too much bullshit to worry about with the battery health, was something repaired improperly, is the seller lying about the condition, etc. you need to find a good seller who is showing you everything. it's just extra stuff to do.and that's just for apple stuff, where everything is really clearly delineated and relatively few options. forget about it if it's for something like a windows laptop. there's a billion different options, and all of them have multiple ways to spec them out, and different sellers list different details about them. it's impossible to navigate that bullshit. totally ridiculous.
>>1082928298GB of RAM in 2026 you fucking idiots
Prediction >>108252985 failed
>>108293607It's gonna be 12 GB next year, and MacBook Air used to have 8 GB as the minimal config and everyone was buying it anyway, judging by the used market
>>108292829>8GB Ram
>>108292829>8GB of _UNIFIED_ RAMOOOOOOOOOOHHHHH NONONONOOOO
>>108293585>Essential Connectivity
Having so many options for a fairly unified architecture and device scope isn't how I'd have done this. Especially since there isn't a version that can be paired with a dedicated GPU, meaning no matter which one you get you're relying on all the power coming from the SoC. Past the Pro range I really don't know what workloads that the Max and Ultra should be handling that the lower ones would choke on.Massive AutoCAD drawings? Some sort of complex fluid dynamic modeling?
>>108293623>12GB in 2027
>>108292829Oh wow that's gre->8GB ram16 GB ram lenovo laptop costs less on a sales.
>>108292829>8GB ram>no backlit keyboard>srgb screen$160 more gets you an refurbished m3 macbook air from apple's website btw
>>108292829These laptops are made for mixed raced people in public schools so apple can eat the sweet government contracts, smart.
>>108293665How much more do you need just to run Safari and MS Office? Unironically. Apple clearly doesn't want you to do any actual creative/CPU-intensive work on this, I don't think they even want you to do it on the Air
>>108292829Mixed feeling. 8/256 is a meme. And there is not even an option to bump it to 16, only 512 for ssd which makes price basically a macbook air tier.8/512 neo would cost 800 eur, while 16/512 air is 1200 eur and a proper M5.I would, okay, tolerate even 16/256, but 8 gigs of ram on a laptop in 2026 wtf like cmon.
I've been looking for a nice laptop to replace my old budget HP Pavilion. I think this might do it.
>>108293667And the 8 GB Neo is going to run typical workloads more smoothly than your dusty stuttering 16 GB Windows bloatbox>>108293682probably
So this is why they moved production to India? So they can employ literal slaves to make their craptops for $600?
>>108293689>How much more do you need just to run Safari and MS Office?How about you fuck off telling me what I "need"?
The security of Mac/Apple is that they want their OS to be functional on phones and tablets, so they're never going to pile on the unoptimized bloat in such a way that it bricks everything under the super computer range (like Windows is currently doing). I learned this the hard way. There's a reason why people use their Macbooks for 10+ years without issue. I had a Windows laptop get bricked after 3 years and my brand new gaming PC runs like it's about to die every startup.
>>108293703I asked you a question, retard
>>108293607Mac isn’t Windows. You don’t need 32 GB just for the OS.
>8gbnah fuck that, i thought they'd go with the new 12gb chip. this thing is basically the same as a base spec m1 it seems
>>108293716>There's a reason why people use their Macbooks for 10+ years without issue.except for no os updates and thus no appstore..>I had a Windows laptop get bricked after 3 years and my brand new gaming PC runs like it's about to die every startup.lamo
>>108293750>no OS updatesNot really a thing but this would be a feature, not a bug. OS updates haven't provided a single helpful thing since 2007.
>>108293736I bought my base spec m1 in 2022 for $650… I guess this means it will be adequate for a bit more.
>>108293703Anon, if you "want" 32 GB of unified memory, then this laptop is not for you. It's explicitly for people who only want to run Chrome. You need a MacBook Pro.
>>108293750workarounds to install new os' on old machines exist.
>>108293051Been like this for a decade already if you were not a disingenuous retard and properly picked all equal quality components.
>>108293858>workaroundsif I wanted to thinker with shit I'd wear a butt plug, programming socks and run arch btw
>>108293083>it only disables financingI have the option to finance with the edu discount
Apple's making good use of the opportunity for people looking for a new computer because their current one is incompatible with Windows 11.
Interestingly, the Help Me Choose page (https://www.apple.com/mac/best-mac) still recommends a MacBook Air over a MacBook Neo whenever the budget is big enough for it, whereas it normally doesn't recommend you a MacBook Pro even if your set your budget to $3500 as long as your tasks don't require it.
>>108293906shit really? last time i tried it with the newest ipad pro it wouldn't show up, maybe they limit it by price range lolin other news, a refurbished m4 air goes down to like $750, i'd go for that one 9/10 times
>>108294033yeah, my dad financed his mba a month ago after I told him about the edu discount. I also see the option on the mbp I've been thinking about ordering.
>>108293661>Past the Pro range I really don't know what workloads that the Max and Ultra should be handling that the lower ones would choke on.AutoCAD yeah, simulation stuff, AI shit, heavy duty film work like color grading with lots of nodes on Resolve with shit like noise removal, film simulations etc. Also Fusion work or other VFX stuff, again related to film.
>>108292829>fn and ctrl keys swappedNo
>>108293690>wangblows user cannot comprehend an OS taking less than 6GB of system RAM at all timesoh my sweet summer child
I haven't been in the market for a laptop in a while is this a good deal?
>>108292829I'm not gonna lie this is the perfect machine for my wife. I'm gonna actually buy her this. She just watches videos and shit anyway most of the time and its OSX. It's normie laptop perfected.
Good. I'm ready to just be done with Windows at this point, but I still need Affinity which currently prevents a full switch to Linux since it's critically broken in Wine at the moment.
>>108294127Depends on what you want to do. It only has 8GB of RAM and 256GB SSD. If you will only browse the internet, watch youtube, take notes, send emails (normie usecase), it's perfect.If you want to do any type of work, just get the base M5 MacBook Air (way faster CPU/GPU, 16GB of RAM and 512GB of storage)
>>108293661Max has a much better GPU, the CPU was and maybe still is about the same as the Pro.
32GB m5 macbook pro or 24GB m5 pro macbook pro? the regular m5 does not come with thunderbolt 5 btw
>>108294181>32GB m5 macbook pro or 24GB m5 pro macbook pro?What is the heaviest task you plan to use it for?
>>108294181Neither, just get the 48GB M5 Pro, best VRAM deal out there
>>108294189shit posting in bed, maybe some wow classic for some reason
>>108294181Neither, wait for M6 Pro, it will have an OLED screen and it will get released in Q4 2026 or Q1 2027. But to be honest, I would personally buy the 24 GB M5 Pro because I want to have a better chip and I feel like 24 GB might be enough for me.
>>108294213>it will have an OLED screen>wait for a downgradelol no thanks
>>108292829>excellent hardware for the price, with the exception of the lack of ports and 8gb of RAM>beyond awful, borderline unusable operating system please tell me there's an easy way to install Windows 10 LTSC on a MacBook
>>108294213>M6 ProI'll probably need it by summer, also not too interested in oled panels. But I am also leaning towards the 24GB m5 pro for the better chip and tb5
>>108294249Imagine wanting to use Windows in 2026.
>>108292829>A18 Pro (Same as iphone 16 pro)So you are basically buying an Ipad that has its own dedicated keyboard and can't handle heavy lifting like video editing and blender? If I need a deadweight, my T420 is just fine, it can't game, can't run excessive shit and can't even run visual code properly. I have to keep my PC on to remote access, I'll probably do the same with this Macbook Neo bs.
>>108294267>can't handle heavy lifting like video editing and blender?nigger, this chip is faster than the M1people do all sorts of things on M1 macbooks, it basically runs anything
>>108293095Ok but it’s not better than m4 with the same price tag.
>>108293630based nigger rimming whore pic anon
>>108292829>8GB>ARM ew
>>108294249Literally vice versa. Great OS, atrocious hardware for the price. What's the better OS then? Windows? It fucking sucks. GNU/Linux? I use it on my PC, but clearly normalfags won't like it.
>>108293881it is not possible to do any serious work on a computer without "tinkering" to some extent. your needs will be satisfied by an ipad.
>>108294376Better power efficiency than x86 though.
>>108294388>your needs will be satisfied by an ipadI can't install runelite on that shit
>>108294389you won't see the benefits since Apple usually>skimps on battery>skimps on cooling
>>108294249>install Windows 10 LTSC on a MacBookyou can install Parallels, which will allow you to create a really high performance Windows VM (the ARM version of Windows, which has Microsoft's PRISM emulator for x86 compat), otherwise you can't.
>>108292829>8gb ram
Mac Studio status? Only machine that makes sense this year before the MBPs entire redesign imo
>>108292829This product is clearly made for public schools and government contracts.
>>108294267>budget laptop>literally meant as chrome os replacement>"muh you cant run heavy video editing software or AAA games on this"no fucking shit retardalso what the fuck is this captcha becoming more and more aids
>>108292943yeah it's mostly for students they're not really doing anything else but accessing course materials in a browser
>>108293162Can you emulate classic Mac stuff? There are a lot of games on classic Mac. Or for that matter can it emulate x86 well enough to play Intel Mac games?
>>108294541I can't speak for this A18 chip, but I'm playing skyrim on my m1 with mods no problem.
>>108293285Why are you?Typing like.This?
>>108293162Retard you just made shit in your brain and vomited the comment.You can emulate ps4 and ps3 inc. modern switch shit.>>108294541Ignore that retard vid. related if you want to learn about emulation.https://youtu.be/CziEM7vREOE
>>108292984So three things. A full size keyboard with Touch ID, a revolutionary Liquid Retina monitor, and a breakthrough power generating device. A keyboard, a monitor, and a power generator. A keyboard, a monitor... are you getting it? These are not three separate devices. This is one device. And we are calling it Neo. Today Apple is going to reinvent the computer. And here it is.
>>108294525>Chromebook replacement>$600Are Chromebooks really that expensive now? I remember when they were around $100, $300 for a premium one.
>>108292829Apple won.
>>108294590I was asking specifically about playing old Mac games (m68k, PPC, and maybe Intel stuff) on it. Does that video cover any of that?
>>108292829>800€>8GB RAM>512GB SSD>Outdated phone SoCIs this an elaborate joke?
>>108292999>There is zero reason to get a Windows machine anymoreAccurate, Linux is here and somehow less jank than microslop
>>108294615Idk about m68k and ppc since I never heard about those, but there are plenty of old intel stuff ported.https://www.macsourceports.com/games>>108294627It's 699 in DE, and even cheaper in states. it's made for american public schools so apple can make money on government contracts.
>>108294627Also, the Americans get a power brick in the box. Cable only for Eurocucks
>>108294541Most mac games are unsupported thanks to apple dropping 32 bit support a long time ago, you're only way of doing absolutely anything with it is basically wine + gptk and hoping the game has decent performance whatsoever.I've got an m4 max and I can tell you any game with lumen doesn't work in it, like oblivion remaster, a lot of games also don't work alright or have severe glitches and bugs thanks to gptk being alpha level software, and obviously you're taking like a 30 or 40% performance hit.Personally played the pirate yakuza and ran perfectly fine at medium settings and the lower res, but oblivion at minimum settings and frame gen didn't even reach 30fps.And adding to this, you're most probably getting much better performance playing the windows versions of games than actually mac versions of old games, even on intel + amd they had a massive performance drop thanks to opengl renderers being shit and drivers being shit.
>>108294647Ports are one thing, emulation is another. Emulation is a catch all solution, which is why I'm asking about it.
>>108294654Is good backwards compatibility really a PC exclusive feature?
>>108294601the cheap chromebooks don't even have 1080p and use pathetic low end mediatek chips. the "good" chromebooks are always very expensive.
>>108294267for people who pretend to know about computers, (You) guise always complain about learning to use other OSs.
>>108294656https://openemu.orghttps://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Emulators_on_macOS
>>108293095>>108293428I fell fell for the memes and bought an old 8th Gen Intel laptop I bought for <80$.It's really a great laptop using Linux however it can't decode AV1 so I have to either download in hevc or tell the browser I can't into AV1.It's a. Fine workaround however I should've spent anudda 100$ to av1 on tigerlake.If you know what you're doing or have a specific goal, then the neo is nowhere near worth the cost.If you're just some random normalfag and can't into puters but need one for whatever gay ass things normies use computers for then you'll buy it and be satisfied with your purchase
>>108294670Macs are PCs with a different bootloader, and no, it's not a windows exclusive thing because, in fact, a lot of even windows 7 industrial and corporate applications don't work on windows 11, and even games also suffer from bugging out or straight up refusing to work on modern windows, for example fallout 3 crashes and bugs constantly, gta sa has to be downgraded to the first release and you have to install an specific community patch to even boot.This is unironically why most ATMs are still running windows xp or windows 7 to this day.
>>108294699>Legacy systems and Atms and bootloaders and butt piratesKek. Just say drivers and patches you fucking tryhard.
>>108292829yeah, I'm gonna stick with my old M1, thank you very much
But older Airs with better specs and include every feature go on sale for $650-600 randomly??
>>108294737>M1What are you doing about av1?I would buy an M1 or two if it weren't for decoding. I was looking at m3 however they still want 500$+
>>108292891It will have performance on-par with a base model M1 Macbook Air. Which runs Tahoe perfectly fine.
>>108292829it runs macos?like arm mac stuff will work on it?honestly kinda interesting at that price point, but then your sitting 400$ off of a base spec mba, which is going to outperform this across the boardgranted $400 can matter a lot for some people but at the same time i wonder how many people will care at all about those differences all that aside, the person in me who hates tech is actually glad this type of product exists, its been time for a long time to take a step back and really show what even very basic hardware is capable of these days, and i think apple will do pretty well with thattheyre not going to release something these days which is just unusably slow ootb, this in the hands of a normie as a facebook and roblox machine will do fine, and then suddenly these thousands and thousands of dollars spent on hardware start to make less sense to that market
>>108293077Anything that isn't external ssd storage really doesn't need more than USB2.
>>108293607Get used to it. With ram and storage prices being the way they are, a lot of people will be going back to 8gb/256gb
>>108294824>Why have an headphone jack in 2026Stfu, faggot, youre not helping
>>108294852My Linux machine has 24gb of ram and 99% of the time it's only using 1.9gb. Under load it uses 2.2gb.
>>108294091That's where they've always been anon. It's a much better layout.
>>108294764I do nothing with them?all my media (pirated H.264 and H.265) lives on ancient T440p home server running Jellyfin if I have to download on laptop itself - videos still play normally, just no hw acceleration - for rare occurance that's not an issue for me
I think it's (potentially) pretty cool (when will it be EOL?) good screen and battery life - I can do my real work shit on my real laptop or desktop something like this you could work in the park on a nice day doing light touch ups without worrying about battery lifeplus it's yellow
>>108294541>classic macThere's emulators. I've played around with Macintosh.js but never used it for any serious emulation. Also you know InfiniteMac exists right? You can even mount your own disc images on it.>x86Give up on playing Intel Mac games. That's not going to happen. It is getting a version on Gamehub soon though to run PC games. As far as I know it's based on FEX. It can run Cyberpunk 2077 on phones, absolutely mental stuff.
>>108294797OH WOW IT RUNS THE CURRENT OS SOOO FINE WHST ABOUT THE NEXT 6 FUCKING YEARS?
Is asahi even usable yet on M1 macbooks let alone shit 6 years newer?Last time I checked it will rape your battery life because they haven't implemented idle power states yet so it's just running full blast the entire time.
>>108292829>Apple continues not to feature a single hetero white man in any of their marketing materialsImagine giving money to a company that hates you.
>>108294954It will continue to be fine. Apple OS cutoff dates are completely arbitrary and have nothing to do with the hardware being too slow to run all the added bloat. This isn't winslop. Apple just like cutting off support to force you into buying the new shiny. This problem is quickly fixed with OpenCore Legacy Patcher.
>>108294966solidarity is for women and brownsi don't want to see a single white male other than myself succeed. this culture is why the white man won
>>108294963Why would you run inferior version of unix?Privacy? Nobody gives a fuck what's on your cumputer, and linux is only alive, because of giant corpoations that fund it for free.You logged on internet and posted on site used by glowniggers, all your go straight to airforce base, and then mossad.It's time to grow up, and move from tranny linux forks on macbooks.or just buy jeet made plastic framework laptop.>>108295006White man is already minority in mutted america, and it's slowly happening in europe, your shit is cope and delusions.>t. realistic white man.
>>108294387why are we pretending MacOS is any good, again? Windows 11 being horseshit doesn't makes MacOS automatically good, it's still bad
will /g/ ever stop being assblasted about White People Products like Apple?I'm starting to think this board is full of third worlders and mexicans, like /pol/
>>108295006Ok, rabbi
>>108294699>Macs are PCs with a different bootloaderThe Intel macs were, but most Macs aren't Intel. You have the PowerPC and M68k Macs before them, and the Apple Silicone Macs after them.> it's not a windows exclusive thing becausePC doesn't just mean Windows. It means IBM PC compatible, which includes everything from the original IBM PC all the to modern x86-64 Linux systems. The PC is backwards compatible on the hardware level, something Mac, which has had 4 different micro-architectures throughout its history, is incapable of doing. Though that's not to say that Windows doesn't have much better backwards compatibility than basically every other operating system in common use today.>a lot of even windows 7 industrial and corporate applications don't work on windows 11, and even games also suffer from bugging out or straight up refusing to work on modern windows,There are examples of software that doesn't work on modern Windows, but its due to individual software bugs rather than sweeping incompatibility. You'll notice the vast majority of that software can be made to run natively with some work. The only things you flat out can not run are Win16 programs and DOS programs, and even those were supported up to Windows 10 in 32 bit editions.That is extremely good backwards compatibility compared to every other computer on the market.
>>108292829>8 gb ram in a > $500 laptop in 2026>same amount of memory as my shitty HP laptop I got from Argos for £170 last year>more than double the price
>>108292829Ultimate tiny server> cheap af> 16 hour no-break> integrated screen, keyboard and mouse> 512GB SDD> fingerprint unlock> smartphone levels of power consumptionI will buy one of this and run it 24/7 and try a bunch of shit like Open Claw
>>108295233Why not just get a mac mini at that pointOr a steam deck lol
>>108295259because it's the same price as the Mac Mini, but has a massive battery and consumes even less power
>>108294491still on M4 Max / M3 Ultra (kek).M5 Ultra should crush local AI, shit will have 40 CPU cores and 512GB of VRAM on the top end.
>>108295233You don't need to buy the more expensive 500gb version.Just buy the cheapest 256 one, and use external hard-drive dock with USB 3 (up to 10Gb/s).There are people on youtube who did this with thunderbolt 4 and m4 mini, you can use whatever ssd.8GB is too little for open claw, you can get 16gb m4 mini, they are like $450 (used).
I honestly don't understand why apple still refuse to make macos more windows normie friendly, I remember when I started with mac os and how shit annoyed me, eventually I get used to the new solutions, but still this is just so fucking retarded, it's like few switches in the settings to make it work just like windows so people can install and forget
>>108295103You think right. It is all of the internet, anon. If you can't even walk down the street of your own neighborhood without being disturbed by shitskins, what makes you think you can escape them in any corner of the internet?
>>108294764I use my m1 air as my shitposting and browsing device. I just use an extension to disable av1 on youtube, they starting pushing it by default a few months ago despite no hw accel. For the rest I don't find much av1 content, most dls are 265, and if it's a movie I'll watch on external screen or on my pro with better screen
would be great deal if not 8gb. i could believe apple optimizes macos to run smoothly, as well as built in applications. but a lot of software is built on top of electron, it eats ram like crazy. and ram is soldered, you can't even upgrade with additional ram stick. who cares that you ram is fast if it's only 8gb, lol.if it had 12gb ram - it would be awesome deal. i believe great built quality and macos (that is you don't need to deal with slop windows or always-something-broken linux). macos just werks.
>>108295383>i believe great built quality and macosi believe great built quality and macos are worth slightly increased price tag
>>108292931schools
>>108295334cloning windows is not a winning strategy. it would eat time and never be perfect. its easier to just get users to stop expecting macos to be windows.
>>108292829They just can't help themselves with the hands. This is why I never buy from them. If I ever need one of their devices for work I'll get it used off marketplace.
>>108292829Pool cleaner computer.
>>108295334I think most of the problem isn't macos but finder. The default finder config is ass. This is a common complaint from Mac power users for a looooong time. The new version in Tahoe is a mess too.
I don't see anything exciting about post jobs apple. Like what new product concept actually made anything culturally new from cook apple? The ipod was something. The iphone was something. The ipad was something. Vision pro was supposed to be something but it's just a dumpster fire failure. Where are the real artists anymore? It's just a copied tired concept made by robot brained people improving the CPU a percent better in battery useage. Everything from them is boring. The UI looks bad, the excessive color themed products is dumb. Snow leopard was perfect. Who works at apple? Nerds reading technical books, pajeets, executives that watch netflix and talk about netflix with the other executives in starbucks? Are the humans gone from apple? I feel nothing walking past apple stores. Jobs was an asshole but an artistic asshole. We need more artistic assholes in tech.
>>108294859>>Stfu, faggot, youre not helpingthere's one though?
>>108295562And if there weren't would you have an issue with it not being there?
>>108295192Let's look at that shitty HP laptop shall we?>Made out of the cheapest, flimsiest plastics possible >touchpad isn't any better than what we had in the 90's>available io decided by a dice roll>cpu is bargain bin, dual core in the region of 1.5-2.5ghz>no gpu>most likely emmc (same stuff sd card are made of) storage, over half will be taken up by windows>most likely 1080p/60fps at most>subsidised by windows 11 adware>also loaded with more hp adware>runs like ass because of all of the above>gets about 2 hours battery lifeHow close am I?
>>108295383>electron appsThis is a problem for normies. Homebrew imo is second only to Pacman/AUR when it comes to support for alternative cli based applications.
>>108295471yes the humans are long gone from that company, I interviewed years ago and it was exactly like interviewing for microjeet. they have absolutely zero interest in passionate white men with vision and the products reflect that. they are now entering the commoditization stage. unable to innovate or pioneer new heights, they now must build for the lowest common denominator
>>108295816>electron appsMacOS doesn't use that garbage they have swift ui which is native to their environment (swift,c,objective-c).https://developer.apple.com/swiftui/
>>108295471The Apple watch is a post-jobs product that fits your bill. I don't think there's been any other big success stories, though there's been a lot of little ones that Jobs would never have approved of. Making the iphone larger and ipad smaller. Getting rid of Intel. Getting rid of fucking Ives and bringing back the proper Mac Pro. It all adds up to a more sensible company actually willing to listen to consumers. Jobs would hate it, but then he was a cunt.
>>108295826It really is just line go up. Great for people that shovel your money into an index fund for old age but the essence of cool is long gone. I don't know if its aging and being jaded or computers are the solved problem becoming the problem. The artform of computer is gone.
>>108295878Doesn't stop developers from being retarded anyway. Discord, Dropbox, Github, Slack, and every Microsoft app (ofc) and a load others all use electron based apps even on MacOS.
>>108295471Yeah yeah let's bring back the guy who insisted up until he was dead that his tablet didn't need a stylus
>>108292943Nobody has ever done real work with iproducts. They're fashion accessories for jewish daycare girl bosses.
>>108295932Isn't the ipad pro consistently ranked as the best drawing tablet on the market?
>>1082933428 GB of RAM in 2026 is criminal. Apple literally made their first product that's made straight for the trash.12 GB would be better but really 16 GB should be the minimum
>>108295949Shut UP we're working on an agenda here
>>108295958Blame datacentres. This is just the beginning.
>>108295958>>108295974My Linux machine never uses more than 2.2gb of ram.If optimization happens because of data centers then this is a painful yet necessary step towards a win, however the chances of that happening are very low.
>>108295896What does the iwatch do that the ipod touch didn't? It's just the ipod touch in a small screen with less functionality. I start to think any problems we had that computers could only solve was done by the 1960s. Unix and C were just mistakes and humanity already had everything they needed with fortran and some ancient IBM mainframes. We could probably explore the galaxy with technology available when star trek was new.
>>108292829Imagine making /g/ drive a Yugo. They’d lose their everloving shit because the Yugo has such bad specs (like 13in wheels, they’d be fixated on that and how dangerous it is) as the Yugo quietly gets them to their destination. It wouldn’t matter how much we tell them it’s actually a Honda Fit with 15in wheels and they should take their meds. To them it’s just a Yugo. Just not enough horsepower for them to drive it on a racetrack. What’s the point of driving a car that can’t be raced on a racetrack?This is a fictional discourse and if I’m being honest I’m actually getting mad about it.
>>108296032>iPod touchNano>60s was good enoughSure, however the democratization of technology has and will allow for greater achievement. It is however not without peril.If there were anything we could do to realize your dream, it would be to force testing on people that want to access computing devices before granting them access to the Internet.
>white keys>no backlightWe are so back.
>>108296058Nice oversimplification.However you know better.
>>108296086If they would've made the chassis that white plastic again that shit wouldve been cash
>>108296074>democratization of technologywhat does computer technology do that makes life significantly democratized for the individual? AI uses more energy then it gives back in productivity gains. Fixed nitrogen expanded human population greatly and made modernity possible in the first place, AI is just deleting human population for no improvements to society or making a more advanced civilization. If anything the automobile and agriculture changes in the 19th century was better for freedoms, computer technology just puts us back into feudalism that rewards even lower IQ and scummier "leaders".>the interneta useless invention. Why would accessing the internet nowadays improve productivity, that peaked in the 80s and was only possible with globalism and a higher IQ population average to support globalism. Shutting down data centers would improve quality of life at this point. New apple is just following a trend of dumping more cheaper unneeded tech products to keep consumerism going while useless AI is already trashing everything.
>>108295949He said real work.
>>108295949>drawing >real work
>>108295911art is not profitable. EVERYTHING you can buy in a capitalist system eventually homogenizes the exact same way. it doesn't matter if it's computers, or video games, or furniture, or food. by its nature, an unrestrained capitalist system will always produce trusts with low value high profit goods because doing anything else gets you run out of business by the businesses that do. it extends all the way to government, which despite not being tied to the concept of profit, uses private profit-driven companies to erect its gray box buildings and pave its roads with bad materials that break down after one season.
>>108296162Sorry anon, what do you do for a living again?
>>108296198I actually do /gd/, so it was an self-depracating joke.
>>108296158The Internet in of itself is an amazing invention that makes far better use of phone lines that voice calls ever could. Think back to just how much we were squandering those lines with voice calls that took up the entire bandwidth of the line for a single call.The problem is social media. We've swung back around to squandering the technology again, this time on bandwidth heavy slop feeds.>>108296217I'm shocked any time there's an anon on this board actually in employment. Good for you.
>>108296245>employment
>>108296245> internet vs phone lines> social mediathe fact that jeets can shit up the internet is even worse than what social media did. if you're old enough, you might remember that phone lines used to have a thing called "long distance calling" and especially "international calling" which was prohibitively expensive for casual use. the internet would greatly benefit from something similar
>weaker and shittier than any windows PC at the same price range
>>108292829Windows is unironically less cancer than macos
>>108295775>Intel N150, 3.6GHz quad core>UFS, not mmc, 128GB, only a very small percentage is used by the OS (Debian 13)>RAM can be upgraded to 16 gig if I could be bothered to do that, instead of stuck at 8gig forever>runs very fast with Debian 13>4 and a half hours battery life before reaching 20%. which is reasonably replaceable if you have a screwdriver and a plastic pry tool to open the case, compared with apple's glued in battery that you can't replace without violently ripping it away with tools and isopropanol to dissolve adhesivesthe only thing you were close with was the display. I can't comment on the adware stuff because I immediately wiped and installed Debian when I got it, I never even booted its stock OS. much better value for money than apple's soldered 8gig ram $600 ripoff
>>108293048They don't make them anymore. The last of the cheap windows fanless laptops were the ones with 4GB RAM used mainly for education.
>>108295136>The PC is backwards compatible on the hardware levelHalf and half. While it's true that a brand new Ryzen will run 80s 8086 code just fine, and with a compatible bios can still boot DOS, hell, even your brand new 9070XT will emulate VGA just fine, the problem is a great many things were never standardised on PC like sound. So you can natively run DOS games but you need a soundblaster to get sound. Which is a problem because ISA support was dropped from every mobo a long time ago. You can get ISA -> PCIe dongles, but they can't wire up the missing interrupt and DMA lines so most cards can't work. If you get a PCI to PCIe bridge you can use a SB Live but the software shim that emulates a classic soundblaster is really tough to get working on modern systems because it relies on 1990s memory layouts that modern mobos have gone and stuck all their AT keyboard and USB emulation in.tl;dr - it's hardware compatible right up until it's not.
>>108296316The links between your country's backbone and the other countries were often rather small. Nobody cared to link up the 3rd world at huge expense so general slow speed and language barriers kept the internet somewhat local. JPs didn't have to deal with weebs shitting up their forums because the JP->US link was a couple of T1s that would let through 16KB/s on a good day.
>>108292829seems pretty ok for a big chunk of the public.this is going to do numbers in smaller markets
>>108292943you will own nothing
>>108292924And so what with it? Nothing works on a Mac.
i would consider getting one but i dont want to move on from macos12macos feels like absolute dogshit after this update, i dont want to change
>>108292829wait few years to see if apple drops it like it did macbook 12, or till linux can run on it. That is the only way. OSX sucks
>>108293176in this economy, yes
>>108296876I encourage you to search for laptops under 600 yourself. I feel like most people are saying this without actually looking.
>>108292829Will it run GNU/Linux though?
>>108292829>8gb ramminimum necessary for login screen is 16 moron
>cost more>half the specs>killing windowsHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHhahahahahahaha
>>108296086Now if only they'd make them non-chiclet keys so everybody in the industry can copy them.
>sirs windows is kill>no
>>108292829why are the hands black
>>108297156black queens look good with the color yellow
>>108295271You can get a Mac mini for $400 at microcenter if it’s near you and it has 16gb of ram and an m4 which is like twice as fast. Spend like $50 extra for a UPS.
>>108295471Apple silicon just completely cooks everything despite their software. iPhone processors are extremely good compared to android, and laptops are beating basically anything you can get with windows on it.
>>108292919The trackpad is swivel based so just save like $100 more and buy the air with 16gb of ram on discount.
I love this but Apple will do anything except make another white macbook.
>>108294690> If you know what you're doing or have a specific goal, then the neo is nowhere near worth the cost.I know what I’m doing and I almost definitely need at least as much processing power as a $400 phone in 2026, please direct me to a laptop that can do the same amount of power as a pixel 9a for less than the neo and also doesn’t need to be permanently tethered to the wall and won’t leave me sterile due to overheating. Just because you spend all day ricing and posting on 4chan it doesn’t make any other laptop useless.
>>108292829if you aren't using mac os at this point, you are kind of a fucking retard. windows is pure dogshit. linux is too much of a time waste.
>>108297472i never liked haptic touchpadsit hurts my finger because you're just pressing into a surface with little give
>>108297495>It has to be less than 400$>And have as much processing power as said phone >Also use as little power as a phone So you want a phone?Just supplement said phone with a used MacBook or PC equivalent and you'll be fine Use case? Shitposting, email, browsing, documentent reader, communicator, online banking etc. yeah you can do all that on a phone.What do you need the laptop for? Bigger screen? Elaborate
>>108294286where are you finding an m4 for $500?
>>108297554I don’t think you understand how powerful phones are these days. Any used laptop under $400 will almost assuredly be worse at browsing the web and watching videos than a midrange phone. >buy usedOk then wait like 6 months and buy one of these used for $400
>>108296422>Intel N150Dogshit. It's equivalent to the lowest end mobile i3 chipset... from 2019. >UFSIt's still flash storage and a downgrade from an SSD. Also Win11 would have literally used up half of that 128gb. The only smart move here was wiping it and installing Debian as soon as you got it.>4 hours battery Anon, come on.>Need a pry tool to change batteryYou're kidding yourself if you think it's any better than a Macbook.I don't want to poo poo your purchase too much, I had a crappy Turion based laptop back in the day. But you're kidding yourself if you can't see how the Neo runs rings around your machine. It'll be capable of running Cyberpunk 2077 ffs.
>>108297076> 1080p screen vs 1440p> 28W vs 8W> plastic vs aluminium> worthless vs great resale value in the future> 2 hour battery life vs 16 hours
>>108293048There was a recent attempt to revive the Surface Go tablets but they already seem to be discontinued. The originals were decent little machines until Windows 11 updates ruined them.
>>108292891>iphone sales go down>"what if we just... put in in a laptop form factor?"it's like netbooks all over again but better....not bad desu
>>108297481It's because they insist on using recycled materials. Recycled aluminium is going to much more usable than any recycled plastic.
>>108292829Imagine paying $600 for a brokiebook
>>108298027>Ok then waitTopkekStop it. You're just being dramatic now.Yes you can wait and buy one later, however what I'm telling you is that your phone is just as powerful as this device so why don't you simply get a phone?With a phone you can get cellular and make calls.So I ask again, after you having admitted that a phone is just as good if not better, what is your use case? Is it just a bigger screen?
this is a computer for children to take to school and shit, and it's fine for thatif you're an adult that's thinking about getting one of these you should kys, you are not the target audience your brown third worlder
This would be really nice for kids or my mom who isn't going to do more than browse the web and watch youtube videos.
>>108292829>8GBReally?
I don't even need to read this thread to know jeets are comparing it to $500 pieces of junk from Acer or HP and calling it a rip-off. Probably the best laptop at this price point, bet a lot of people who use iPhones but don't use their computer to justify a $1k macbook will eat this up.Also wondering if they'll sell them in bulk to schools at an even lower price to try and take back some of that market from chromebooks.
>>108292829genuinely what do windows manufactures even dothey're selling plastic hunks of garbage that will shit the bed in 3 years time
>>108292829why do ppl keep saying its a godo computer for kids or surfing the web? there are already 300 dollar laptops that are fine for that
>>108292829My phone has twice the RAM, that's crazy
>>108292829But I'm not black. Or gay.
>>108292829Will a 12GB model be released next year? If yes, I'm buying it immediately.
>>108298784yeah they share the same CPU as the iPhone Pros, so following the logic, next year they will get updated with the A19 pro which has 12GB of RAM.There's also the remote chance the A20 comes with 16GB of RAM, and then Apple skips the A19 Pro for the Neo and goes straight to the A20 Pro
>>108296829Almost everything works on a Mac. And everything a normalfag needs, works on a Mac.
>>108292829eww
>>108292829>$600 for 8 gb ram
>>108292829Would this thing get me through a CS degree? I really don't want to buy some old ass Thinkpad or sell my kidney for an Air/Pro model.
>>108298846>Would this thing get me through a CS degree?yes, it's faster than the M1 macbook, and full stack developers loved the base M1 (even at 8GB)
>>108293458NIGGA JUST TURN A LIGHT ON THE FUCK U NEED A BACKLIT KEYBOARD FOR
>>108292840Linux is a meme. I started using fedora and mint last year as a side project to see what Linux is really all about. And it is just like a cheap Chinese knockoff of what a real OS is. Terrible, just terrible
>>108298846>CS degreeWhat the fuck are you doing with your life? It's over
>>108293285>>108293679 (((( refurbished ))))
>>108293409Those guys are all bidding on the handful of libreboot compatible models.I got an old Ryzen Thinkpad with 16GB RAM off amazon for ~$180 last year because it was the cheapest business class laptop with 16GB and I needed a beater for road trips. Actually runs really well. Great keyboard, great touchpad. Internal battery was shot, but the previous owner gave me a new one on the hot swap bay. I could 90% live off that thing. Far better value than nigbook.
>>108292829MacBook Piss
>>108298876Thanks anon. Guess I'll just pick up the 512GB Neo then.>>108298899I have zero other interests, and I'd legitimately rather be unemployed with a tech degree than go to med school and want to blow my brains out every day at work.
>>108298925You're gonna be wanting to blow your brains out working at Walmart with a CS degree too.
>>108298067> until Windows 11 updates ruined themmany such cases
why shouldnt I buy the m4 air for 899€ over the neo for 799€
>>108298934>I have zero other interestsYour job shouldn't reflect your interests unless you're a genius or a psychopath. Being passionate about the thing and debasing the thing to meet the business reality of selling it to normgroids while delivering shareholder value are totally different. Most people should pick a job they can be dispassionate about but tolerate well.
>>108292829On my used ThinkPad I can upgrade RAM up to 64GB ;)
>>108293068apple has always marketed to san francisco yuppies
>>108292829>$600>8GB of RAM>60hz displayYou niggas can't be serious.
Thinking of getting this to replace my ipad pro 2018ios 26 made it borderline unusable
>>108299937see:>>108298055
>preorder page for macbook neo is crashed
>>108292829>8GB RAM in the year of our Lord 2026Macbook air 2015 with a 2 year old ARM SOC meaning you're locked into their shitty OS and worse connectivity? You can definitely get a better deal on used hardware if you are a poorfag.
Lenovo missed out on not releasing a pink ThinkPad
>>108300545they hate us women frfr
