I hate data hoarders so much it's unreal
This is why they invented torrents. Mass downloaders actually help the distribution of files, as long as they seed of course.
>piracy websites and archives dropping like flies>titles being delisted, with no official way to buy them anymore>"problematic" titles being censored, with no official way to access the original versions>everything moving to subscription-based where you lose access the moment you stop payingData hoarding will continue until the situation improves (lol).
>>108295239This, the problem is faggots hoarding the data on some shitty website then being shocked that people download files from it.
This thread is going to devolve into a drivelet support group. Enjoy your pity party, I’m going to just download the internet.
>>108295207Data hoarders were always right. I didn't listen until after storage got expensive and may not get cheaper any time soon if ever.
>>108295207>want to preserve old games>people ensure they're preserves by making copies.>noooo we were supposed to take it all offline one day and destroy the data!!!!
>>108295293why aren't all those hoarders making websites then
>>108295207sounds like a problem for "someone" whoever they are. why should I give a shit about what "someone" hosts
>>108295207>Here my archive website :D>Great, let me make a copy, 2 is alway better then one for preservation>NOOOOO THINK ABOUT MUH SERVER ANDmake it a tracker next time faggot
>>108295207Data hoarding is a like a bank rush, people only do it because they're afraid the place hosting the files won't be there much longer. Its partially self fulfilling, but is usually also the only winning move for any person who may want those files in the future.
>>108295648Why would you host a website?
The hoarders are right. I haven't contributed to myrient's current hammering but I can assure you that's only because I obtained the sets I wanted years ago already from GGn, Ugg (RIP), Blackcats (RIP) and other sources that distribute large files the way they are supposed to be - via torrents. Sites come and go. The data is the only thing that matters. RIP mininova.
>what is p2pretards be retards
>>108295676this
>>108295676>2 is alway better then oneNobody is doing this
without robust protections some 0.001% malicious actors can ruin things, pretending its anyone but the hosters fault is sillywow someone on the internet abused a thing, how could this happen
>>108295239fpbp
>>108295710>i'm PRESERVING them, bro>no you can't see them, what would be the point of that??
>>108295207it's not data hoarders its quantity of normies using the site
myrient never cared about preservationanna's archive distributes everything by torrents and splits the torrents up so people can download as many as they want as possible and also before that made sure there are hoarders with full copies out there and also backed up other libraries they same way Besides the issue isn't hoarders. It's the massive influx of new users people who never even knew it ever existed now flooding it to try to download shit 90% of its issues could be sold by sectioning off a top 50 games from each console or some shit to let them go rape that server
>>108295270Seed it faggot
I will skim through it, download what I recognize and let the rest die its deserved abandonware death.
>>108295239You mean these chumps host pirated games on fucking ftp servers? Like it's the fucking 90s before torrents were a thing? Lmaoooo. Tech illiterate retard zoomers deserve every ounce of suffering they bring upon themselves.
>>108295886No. I believe that knowledge should be gatekept, especially from the profane.
>>108296033>Like it's the fucking 90s before torrents were a thing?I now understand the Vietnam flashbacks. I ran a Warez server while I was in Junior High.
>>108295207>refuse to make a torrent, ask people to use rclone on your server instead>"wtf why are people using rclone on my server???!?"
>>108295748when will the Ichijo Festival finally release?
tangentially related i've noticed that a lot of people seem to dismiss bandwidth costs as negligible for some reason. like the prevailing thought seems to be that it used to be a problem but isn't anymore, just based on vibes i suppose.
the most niggerlicious part is that hoarders didn't give a shit a month agoFOMO is for apes
>>108295853Remind me of "the Japanese Game Preservation Society" They took donations in money and games, and used the money to store all the donated games in a building in a bunch of boxes. Journalists and academics could contact them to request access to the building to look at the games. The rest of the public could look at the game list online, and an occasional newsletter about recent donations. Then they ran out of money, and are begging for funds so they can pay the rent.
>>108295252For what it's worth, buy physical if you can. Though the retro game market is fucked thanks to speculators.
>>108295207should have been 1 file / IP / day.nobody plays more than one new game per day.and if you do, you're a sick fuck, get help.
>>108295207All he had to do was offer torrents. In fact only offer torrents using magnet links on the main site. I doubt those old roms are being updated that often. Then he can just have the entire collection on his seedbox and rate limit clients to protect his costs and encourage seeding.
I've never even heard of myrient but I will assume that all of their content has been mirrored on gazelle games by now
>>108295648because you dont need a website and only need a magnet link
>>108296415well yes it wasnt about to close a month ago? retard
>>108295207>username: "ethicalhumanbeing">top 1% commenter>an emotional child throwing a tantrum speaking about things he knows nothing about because hes so technologically illiterate he doesnt know what torrents arekek cant make it up
>Have every single game up to PS2 because space is cheap for anyone who isn't a turd worldieEEEEEYUP! I'm hoarding!
>>108295270i just want one or two 2+ TB drives gdi
>>108296998thistheres nothing past ps2 thats worth it and ps2 is only 10tb not counting obscure shit
>>108297002I’m literally just disgarding two 2tb drives because I need to make room for some 14 tb ones.Hang in there kid, you’ll get up there someday.
>should i use torrents and webseeds and not have to handle all (or almost any) site load myself? nah i dont want to do that i would rather pay 6k a month and then complain about it for no reason>because of that now i have to close, hmm, should i work with the community so i can dump all my data just once and be done with it? nah i dont want to do that i will let people scramble so everything gets downloaded 10 times over instead and make it cost even more for me!the site owner is literally braindead.
>>108296456Yeah. That shit is retarted. If it was at least some kind of museaum but people donating are doing nothing but funding some nerd's collection.I hope it catches fire on the next megaquake in Japan.
>>108295676okay where's the 2
>>108297036>pay 6k a monththis myrient nigga retarded for sure
>>108295207myrient IS a data hoarderunfortunately he chose to pay thousands in bandwidth per month instead of using torrents
>>108296888Shit most of their stuff came from there and older trackers to begin with
>>108295648Because torrents exist as a far better way to keep files alive?
>>108295252>>108295270>>108295738Some advices on websites I should data hoard from?
>>108296993>top 1%Not a plebbitor but 999% sure they count unused accounts too, so almost literally everyone is in the top 1%.
>>108295239>as long as they seed of course.not my problem
>>108297796this post brought to you by /ptg/ gang
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>>108295207your data hoarder envy is showing.
>>108295207>"WAH they are locking my bandwidth!">no torrentmassive retards>>108295239FP? BP!
>>108296033worse, they used cloud storage at 5000% markup
>>108296665This might be the worst take in the thread. Nigger I'm not going back every day like it's some mobile game slop. I'll download what I want up front and never come back.
>>108297796leeching torrents is a prisoner's dilemmaif everyone leeches then nobody gets to download since nobody bothers to download at close to dial-up speedsso the parties that aren't invested enough to play their pointless full library of games will just leave
I have 90TB of free space and will only download old zelda games because those are the only things worth saving.
>>108298645>he doesn't fill those 90TB full with lolisIt's almost like you are a closeted homosexual.
>>108295207If they can't afford the bandwidth needed to host PS3 and Xbox360 games, then don't even host them. What is the actual logic here?
>>108295207Link the post, pussy.
>>108295207I made a TUI to easily download myrient stuff in parallel and capped my gigabit link downloading over 9000 roms per second. I’m not sorry.
>>108295239Myrient were very driven by a personal desire for giving everyone the optimal, premium experience of being able to download freely and easily but this was always going to be abused.What SHOULD have happened was the most popular and mass downloaded files got distributed as torrents and then the less popular and niche stuff (magazine scans, promo videos, beta editions, random leaks etc) would be served as direct downloads.The popular stuff would probably get seeded at least enough to offset the worst of the server costs, while the niche stuff wouldn't cost much to host at all. Doing that system or something like it would have saved the site very easily in the long run, to say nothing of giving small incentives to host/seed to other likeminded individuals.I do find it strange that their costs were so high though, even at the current inflated prices for hardware actually outright buying that much storage and paying for bandwidth should be as expensive as that right? I'm no expert so I could be wrong.
>>108295239>as long as they seedIs the average person on CGNAT even capable of seeding files?
>>108298815if you're behind cgnat you can only seed to people without nat
>>108298634>anime poster from redditkys srsly
>>108298665killing the business of premium myrient downloaders earning patreon bux with no survivors
>>108295239fpbp. Put it in a torrent and quit bitching.
>>108295207>Retard is complaining that he gets a virus when clicking a download buttonlmao, the retard doesn't even use an adblocker.
>>108295207Kek
>>108296665> vpnwon't work
all information will one day be placed within the confines of openai and scam altman will collect a token everytime you need to get something done. everyone thinks this is about building a machine god or automating jobs, but the only goal is to leech from everything. its credit card fees but for thinking.
>>108297104torrent is bad for hdd
>>108299792you can't take my off grid linux machine away from me
>>108299788doesn't have to fight off 100% of the leechers as long as it keeps traffic manageable and fucks with the patreon cucks
>>108299799yes they can
>>108295207KWAB
>>108299829let them try
>>108295207Haha. Cope and seethe paypiggy. You're the reason why companies are emboldened to push their AI slops and age verification thing.
>>108295207I don't know what this goober is complaining about but have this pic for free.
Works on my machine
>>108298657based
>>108300106Based and true
>>108295239>as they seed of course
>>108297796>not my problem*gets his download privileges suspended for Hit and Run*heh
>>108295207only a huge moron would host thousands of roms on web servers when torrents existhe deserves to get his servers hammeredlike, bro, we solved this 20 years ago
>>108298657based based based
Does it even fucking matter? Everything I saw at Myrient is also up on archive.org, GGN, Retrowithin, etc etc etc.
>>108302983nigga just shut the fuck up
>>108302742white people seed
>>108302742You are a nigger.
>>108295773Anna literally has 4 websites.I'm approaching the point of having most of the things that I want. I'll be able to start 2 quite soon.
>>108295252>Data hoarding will continue until the situation improves (lol)spbp /threadGo fuck yourselves.
>>108302742the true test of a man is when a woman sees your ratio
>>108300106this, piracy was resolved years ago with torrenting, there is no reason for a retard to hoard all the files. This time was because of poor logistic, but could have been a tantrum, forced to fight in ukraine, dead by ligma, corporate takedown, etc, that would have caused the site to go down.
>>108295676Where's the second copy then, faggot? Just sitting on your aids-encrusted hard drive with no availability for anyone else?
>>108303534The only people that put effort into organization and availability of their torrents are private trackers and they make it their mission in life to prevent anyone outside of their cult to get the files.Sharing is dead.
>>108303548And for good reason
>>108303568And this reason is...?
>be retard>userbase also retarded (mostly thirdies from brazil and india)>don't use torrents>seethesome such cases
>>108303594>>108302742 thisyou don't want 1000 poos leeching, just look at what happend to myrient, total unregulated abuse. Gated communities, limited rates, n downloads per session, and many others rules are not for being assholes, but to be reasonable.
>>108303671Ok?This has nothing to do with private trackers being so hostile to newcomers though.Force people to seed or you ban them, but make it possible to join, these are not mutually exclusive.The truth is that private trackers tards are a bunch of power tripping losers.
>>108295207You either have an offline LAN and a brain or you don't. You don't. Consider this, this is all basically stolen from the people who made it who got less money because of that and you are trying to moralise about how you steal it? Don't get me wrong dispite having worked on popular software that was widely pirated IDGAF anymore but the hypocrisy is a bit glaring.
>>108303696Nah they are right, you are moving into an era where you will get copyright bountyhunters freelancing.
>>108303730>Meanwhile, people are just dumping entire corporations trade secrets onto public AIswhy can't more people be as smart as you
>>108303696sorry but no girls allowed
Usecase for hate and not love?
>>108295207You niggers are one of the most retarded faggots I know.Soon you won't be allowed to use any compute and I will be sitting in my bunker playing games, listening to music, watching movies OFFLINE, while you'll be begging for a morsel of new bits and bytes.Take and seed whatever you can, as long as you can.
>>108297008t. Xoomer
>>108303178>>108303229>>108303449>>108303671>sharingWhat is that, communism?
>>108299799No, but they can just wait until you die and the house clearance firm throws all your hard drives in the trash. Zoomers don't know what torrents are and wouldn't care about game "preservation" even if they did. It's pretty much inevitable that when today's 40 year olds begin dying off, things will start being lost forever. Hell, that's already happening. Once you get past the 6th gen of consoles and into the era of digital games, title updates and DLC, the amount of stuff that's been preserved drastically goes down. Tons of stuff from Xbox Live and Playstation Network is already unavailable and unarchived, leaving only the slim hope it'll be found by chance on some old hard drive one day.
>>108304088>sharingit can be a tricky concept to grasp by poverty-stricken thirdies. they were taught to fight tooth and nail for scraps, and to keep their fellow man down, just to be sure he doesn't pose threat.
>>108295207>don't plan for the future goy
>People were downloading shit like Barbie Horse Adventure 3 and Madden NFL Roster update 10/Handball Simulator thinking they'd play them to completion someday instead of cherrypicking and not wasting space or bandwidth.
>>108295862It's always the kid who tells everybody "how to get free games" who ruins everything. Some people are mentally retarded and instinctually driven to never keep a secret.
>>108303178You want White people seed
>>108304349>No, but they can just wait until you die and the house clearance firm throws all your hard drives in the trashHe'll literally be dead and wont care who takes or what happens to his hard drive atp AI controlled NPC kun.
>>108295207>>108295239>>108295252All he had to do is:>pause the website>make torrents of all his contents>start super-seeding (to minimize his upload bandwidth and let the downloaders do the uploading)>put the torrents on the website>let people download and seedThat's it, and his whole archive would be hoarded by everyone very easily.
>>108304904are you poor or something? there s 26tb drives and everyone has gigabit at least these days
>>108304979>all he had to do is [a bunch of retarded bullshit]
>>108305016>seething anti data hoarding shill
>>108304952Ah, a typical brownoid displaying the typical brownoid mentality that everything can burn for all they care if it's not directly benefitting them. No desire to leave a better world for their children and their childrens' children. Just a selfish, gibsmedat attitude and desire for short-term gain at the expense of all else. Calling you an NPC would be compliment. At least those can be programmed with some sort of worthwhile function.
>>108305016how is any of this more retarded than paying 6k a month for the servers
>>108303950>he'll be stuck with his limited collection while my local AIs will be generating infinite entertainment for mesad
>>108304998You can be the richest man on Earth and still not have enough hard drive space. Nobody can hoard absolutely everything, you have to pick and choose what you want. Why waste a terabyte on every regional Barbie Horse Adventure version when that space is better put to use storing anything else?
>>108305390>limited collectionYou can download more media than you have time to consume in your life onto a 10TB disk but yeah enjoy your AI slop like the brownoid you are.
>>108305403>You can download more media than you have time to consumeYeah but my tastes change. I don't know what I'll want to consume 10 years from now, I might not have that hoarded>muh brownsYou're talking about hiding in a bunker I think you can drop the first world pretense
>>108295207and this is why Private Trackers IS THE WAY.Let the plebs die alone on the public internet.
>>108295207>I hate data hoarders so much it's unreal>What is a torrent?
>>108295648Because creating a website takes effort, and getting people to use it is an even bigger hurdle. Why would I put in effort for stuff nobody would use?
>>108305338>their children and their childrens' children>implying anyone on here will be having children
>>108295239>>108297150Why are game preservation torrents always huge batches of files rather than having individual torrents per file? Having different torrents for each collection splits seeders across the many different batches, rather than everyone having game X version Y seeding the exact same file. It also obsoletes the old torrent whenever the batch gets updated. (Archive.org is worst about this, generating new torrents whenever ANYTHING including metadata is changed.)It also seems inconvenient on the downloader side. I have plenty of space and bandwidth and just hoard all the roms, but this isn't the case for everyone who just wants to play that one SNES game he's been hearing about. I knew a dude from Belgium where they apparently have bandwidth caps on wired connections and he had to download Steam games at work across the border to preserve bandwidth at home. Yes, you can seek out a full romset torrent and start it paused, then unselect all files except the one you want, but I can't blame people for not knowing that or not wanting to go through the effort. Wouldn't it be much more convenient if you could just go "hey, you should check out this game, here's the magnet link" to share a single file? For the entire collection you can just share a text file with all the magnet links which can be mass imported by any decent client.
>>108303534>piracy was resolved years ago with torrentingTorrents are sadly not a perfect solution. Torrenting can be detected and blocked (or hindered even unintentionally by ISPs cheaping out, e.g. >>108298815 >>108298819) and to the best of my knowledge cannot be done properly in a private manner. As long as the internet is free and the content isn't TOO illegal it works, but if they were to crack down on piracy harder it would collapse even worse than romsites.
>>108306059people dont dress like that in real life
>>108297008you only need like 500-1000GB for ps2 if compressed to chd and not getting dupes and the huge shovelware
>>108299799This is why we need guns.I for one, am thankful for the 2nd Amendment.
>owning things makes people unhappyWell well well
>>108306059>Wouldn't it be much more convenient if you could just go "hey, you should check out this game, here's the magnet link" to share a single file? If anything it would be less convenient than just having the full set in a single torrent
>>108306457Can confirm i vibe coded a converter and went from 750gb to 490gb.
Lol
sneed's feed and seed (formerly chuck's)
The myrient dude was a bit naive not too put controls on that bandwidth. Just force them to pay up if they want to download everything or something. There's plenty to do to enforce rate limits.
>>108295207I'm 99% percent sure a lot of the downloading was just glowies and the like stressing the servers to get the site to bleed money and shut down
>>108297150>torrents exist as a far better way to keep files alive?except NO ONE is going to mirror 500TB of files. who the fuck has that kind of storage capacity available
>>108295239P2P works great for a lot of things, probably even most games. But when it comes to PC games, the swarm will always converge on the Super Ultra Mega Repack Big Titty Mod Edition after a few months because it's ready to play and they can seed it without having to keep the useless (to them) setup files on their hard drive
>>108303838>trade secretsoh no muh heckin CRUDslop!
Hoarders are just mentally ill lazy assholes.They will still only play what other people recommend them, thus making the hoard behaviour meaningless.
>>108298778>The popular stuff would probably get seeded at least enough to offset the worst of the server costs, while the niche stuff wouldn't cost much to host at all.except it seems that people were downloading entire romsets without the intention to play them>>108313442>constantly repeat how everyone should DOWNLOAD THE FUCK OUT OF EVERYTHING NOW BEFORE IT GETS DELETED>act surprised when people start downloading the fuck out of everythinguhh... based?
>>108295207Rip
>>108306059You can just select the files you need from a big torrent, it has always worked exactly like you described.
>>108295207bittorrent solved this 25 years ago
>>108306059You can litearlly just select what you want in the torrent, I was downloading NDS roms just now and I do like 1k games at a time cuz ssd is almost full.As for having to change a torrent everytime there is a change that is because torrents are hashes. It's a temporary problem because once the collection is complete the final torrent stays unchanged henceforth.
>>108298815>CGNATDo Americanese ISPs not provide IPv6? CGNAT is only an issue on IPv4.
>>108317540my country is still on IPv4 and that's a good thing because of DHCP lets you skip jewish download timers
>>108306323You didn't get the memo?
Who gives a shit? ROMs are easily shared. Some dweeb can make a new site in 2 days. It's not like the roms there aren't still up in other places.
>>1083202052 words:THE BETAS.
>>108320205>yes goy just sit there cross-legged and do nothing as we the good guys (tm) shut down those eeeeeeevil pirates for having the gall to store games that no one can dream of getting for under $200shalom
>>108295290>Data hoarders were always right. I didn't listen until after storage got expensive and may not get cheaper any time soon if ever.>>108295270>This thread is going to devolve into a drivelet support group. Enjoy your pity party, I’m going to just download the internet.THis. Man the RAID and by the glow of the UPS we shall have all the stuff on our battle LANs
>>108299337
>>108306059It’s like a Morgage Backed Security.Gotta bundle the B rated torrent files with the AAA to keep the music going..
/ptg/ master race hereTorrents solve this problem but it requires you to seed the files. You shitters don't seed your files. Inside our walled gardens with enforced seeding we do not have these problems because our people seed. Hoarding is not a bad thing if you actually intend to distribute what you are taking. Even if I have more content than I consume I distribute it so others can have access as well.Before you bitch at me I share plenty with the public. I don't just seed on private trackers.
>>108295648tard
Typical reddit nigger thinking. Myopic and detrimental to society
>>108300106this is fine unless you live in a shithole like the U.S where companies will call you if you download a movie and demand 9 gorillia dollars
>>108303178white people, unless you live in a shithole like the US where the ISP data limits you each month lmao.
>>108317512storing DS games on a SSD instead of HDDLMAO
>>108321367Most US ISPs do not limit you. If xfinity/comcast is your only option you're pretty much fucked.
>>108296497They are actively killing physical media. No one is making discs any more
>>108295239this, i don't understand why they went with ftp
GGN doesn't have this problemsurely you are already in right?
>>108295239instead of the myrient ftp downloader they could have made a p2p client that works the same and lets people seed the games they download
>>108303178*sneed
>>108297036Literally everything on the site is available on the internet, the people scrambling haven't looked. They just assume because the owner was wasting his money that he has something valuable. I have the whole listing there is nothing unique
>>108296983everything online is on the verge of being shut down, retardhoarders who follow headlines remain mouth breatherswhy don't they have it already?
Usecase for datahording when you can just generate anything you want from an LLM?
>>108321156>want to download obscure shit>can't because would get penalized hitting 0 ratio>trackers realize obvious hole and use freeleech as shitty band-aid that defeats the entire point of the ratio systembrilliant
>>108321665>Usecase for datahording when you can just generate anything you want from an LLM?I have over 3000 mocies and TV series and couple of hundred thousand books including pretty much everything of note civilisation has. It's genuiney pathetic that you think an LLM could write without having been trained on it anything like Platos Repubic or create Full Metal Jacket, or something like John Lee Hooker, BB King, Johnny Cash or the Prodigy or even Galaxians or Silent Hill. It can do second rate mimicry, not create Fraiser or Lawrence of Arabia
>>108321665>want to generate cowboy on horse>get freakish horse with extra limbs, dude's limbs merging with horse, motorbike handles on horse's withers, cowboy's feet blending into stirrups, overall botched anatomy, saddle placed wrong on the horse's back, reins not connected to bit, etc.two more weeks right?
>>108321665I have an LLM on my offline lan, gemini, it has access to offline encyclopedias and all the media metafiles and just acts as a search. I don't use it much desu, I tend to use voice commands on media extenders because I'm a lazy fucker
>>108321867>It can do second rate mimicrySo marvel movies and disney star wars and sequels and reboots and endless franchises and kayne music and hip hop but that means.....oh noe.....
>>108321665>an LLM?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjYvdURv3Zw
>>108295239this, if you're going to host tons of stuff, do it with torrents. Even archive.org does this, if you want hoarders to contribute, give them a method of doing so
>>108321905I don't want to contribute I'm parastical, like pirates. In fact I generally despise collectivism.
>>108321665>an LLM?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFkrLsxEhicAGE VERIFY
>>108321867>>108321873You miss the point. LLMs/LDMs are literally just corporations laundering copyrighted materials for you. Instead of downloading a file you can just stream an arbitrary approximation whenever. It would be trivial to use seedance 2.0 to compress all of breaking bad into a few GB
>>108321960>approximation>>108321867>It can do second rate mimicryhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCg43omcgZs
>>108321967Stop replying to this thread bot
does i2p solve the nat issue?
>>108321974>Stop replying to this thread botbut you said LLMs could replace human output?
>>108322006Not whatever niggerlicious local LLM you are using
>>108318669You do realize that dual stack is a thing, right? That's what most French ISPs provide, and it's pretty much the superior option.
>>108295207>OBVIOUS stressthe servers, won't someone think about the servers? it's all about the caring
>>108321873Also:>Hyper inflated GPU prices>Hyper inflated ram prices>Retarded amounts of your municipal power grid>Barony levels of your drinkable waterThat's all without even mentioning long term financial market sunk cost shit fuckery
>>108305938>You won't. I already have two.
>>108303594He is a private tracker retard. If people could just get the files, then going though all the humiliation rituals would be for nothing.
>>108305394because some people play those other versions. I fucking hate it when they don't carry jap versions
>>108295862>it's not data hoarders its quantity of normies using the site>normiesit's third worlders. they're too poor to donate to causes like this even if they weren't selfish wretches. white men seed torrents and donate to websites they appreciate. picrel was from 2018 so we can only imagine just how much worse things are now and how much bandwidth is being used by third world filth the cost of which lands on the operators of websites. i know people are pretty stingy about donating to websites but a service like myrient could likely exist for many, many years if they simply blocked ip addresses from third world countries who drive up the operating costs of websites while offering nothing in the way of donations.
>>108295207I hate databrokers the most, datahoarders are cool though if they do it for the love of the hustle.