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Nigger
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>>108303415
>>108303581
Is that a driver update or BIOS update?
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>>108303562
I'm still on F8, maybe it's time to update. I see an X3D update in there too, and I have a 7800X3D.
I was holding out in case the 9800X3D's melting were related to BIOS, since vendors were all pushing out a ton of updates to try to mitigate it.
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>>108303805
UEFI, but that's probably what you mean by BIOS
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>>108303840
actually I think I went to F23 at some point since that seemed like the last one before 9000 series. I see F23 in my drivers folder.
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I've become addicted to checking the asrock subreddit
first three posts right now
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>>108303840
looks like most things were updated Jan. 16, so I'll probably go to the F39 BIOS since that was also J.16.
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Zero members of congress know anything about tech. None of them know about the ram crisis.
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>not being on ages 1.3.0.0a
couldnt be me
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yo wtf msi????
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>>108303947
thanks for beta testing for me!
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who gives a shit about some bios versions unless you're installing a new cpu
even the manufacturers tell you not to install new one unless you have a specific reason
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>>108303955
>>108303956
asus chads win again
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>>108303685
based.
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I bought a used Asus TUF 3060ti and thought everything seemed fine, but when i booted up a demanding game it jumped to 85-86c immediately and was as loud as a jet engine, eventually it seemingly crashed too because my screen lost its signal.
Is this card bricked, could it be a software issue or could repasting save it?
Please help me, i've been through some very terrible events recently and need at least this to work out for me.
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>>108304100
repasting might be worth a try but first check that all the fans on it are spinning and install afterburner to check the idle temps. maybe putz with the fan curve or power limit.
also just to fully rule things out if you didn't already do it before you put the card in you might also try DDU (display driver uninstaller) and reinstalling the drivers, and then check the support website for that model of card to even see if there's a new vga bios for it
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>buy asus z890-e strix on amazon resale
>comes with no accessories
>just paid $7 to get a single m.2 rubber spacer shipped to me
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>>108304155
I used Nvidia App to freshly install drivers and also check temps, at low/idle loads it runs below 40c and is pretty quiet.
The fans are all working too, i checked already.
I'll try the vga bios thing tho but it seems like it's most likely the paste right?
Or could there be a worde hardware fault behind this too?
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Best upgrade path for the new apple neo (do I put the ram cpus in the rectangle holes?
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>accidentally coom
>suddenly lose all motivation to buy a 3090
what is this called
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I need an interim cooler for a 9950x3d build until Asus release their new AIO. I was thinking to use a Arctic Liquid Freezer III Pro 360 unless there are better suggestions?
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>>108304198
3090 is a shit card
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How is the pulsar meme evolving
These monitors are not selling and constantly in stock
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>>108304259
I'm an AMD stan, and that's just false. the xx90 cards are nice. The xx80 are idk, maybe. nothing below.
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>>108304281
We could have oled doing similar rolling bfi and increased brightness and get clarity advantage + infinite contrast.
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If I get instant critical process died bluescreen right after the mobo screen and cant even "reset this pc" to reinstall windows, that has to be a corrupt windows install, right? Or could it be something fucked with my mobo or cpu? It's relevant to /pcbg/ because my computer has been fucked since i moved to a new chassi so i could fit my 5070 ti, after I restarted after updating my nvidia drivers.
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>>108304289
4090 & 5090 are good. 3090 is horrible. its hot and loud and not even that fast.
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>>108304371
:^)

It's good at ai, for the price.
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This thermal paste seems so stuck on this heatsink, how do I remove it?
Q tips with alcohol do nothing
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>>108304405
I bet you need to use a razor blade, but I can't recommend that :( hopefully someone has a genuinely good idea
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>>108304405
use some metal implement to scrape it
isopropanyl is usually used to remove paste
you could just pour it on and cover it with plastic wrap to let the alcohol soak in without evaporating too quick
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>>108304281
they're too expensive. it's also a weird product because the whole point is motion clarity with VRR, but people who care about motion clarity don't care about VRR. VRR is for low fps to feel more smooth, not more clear.
and it's not better motion clarity than OLED, and it doesn't have the colors of OLED.
and 1440p. if this was 4k 240hz IPS it would be worth considering.
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>>108304289
It's two gens old. There's no reason to seek it out when stronger 4000 series cards are available and cheaper.
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>>108304100
there should be a setting inside its drivers where you can cap the fps no matter what game you're playing, it might have overheated because it was trying to render 500fps on a 75hz monitor.
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>>108304250
they're great coolers, but why the fuck would you bother? If you want "the best", just go for style and get a TRYX right now, best looking AIOs on the market.
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>>108304648
thats so gay
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>>108304653
>wants to buy 2 top end AIO coolers for no reason
>calls a third prestige option for AIO coolers "gay"
Its your waste of time, money, and precious metals i guess.
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>>108304640
Nahh it was Nioh 3, the game itself is hardcapped at 60.
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>>108304100
>play demanding game
>card heats up and cooling kicks in
what's the problem?
and a single crash and you want to repaste your GPU? lmao!
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>>108304648
Not the Ryou IV but the Strix IV AIO, I'm planning to get a (mostly) white build with the HAVN 360 case and Asus x870e Glacial which then has the cableless AIO connection for the Strix IV. The Strix IV doesn't release until Q2 though so god knows when it actually comes out, the Asus PG32UDCM3 hasn't even come out yet and that's supposed to be Q1
I originally planned to get the Tryx before deciding to get the Glacial instead
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>>108304682
sorry dude, I just think aios with screens are very gay.
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>>108304701
shoving screens on everything is the new RGB fad
my case sits on the floor so i cant even see that shit anyways
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>>108304700
> I'm planning to get a (mostly) white build

Another one of you faggots
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>>108304764
Yeah, I'm just not a fan of it. Something like the ice myst from silverstone makes more sense. Though the fans being a separate purchase is pretty annoying. Probably what I'll end up ordering since my nhd15 is getting bullied by a 9950x3d.
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the quadro m6000 24gb remains relevant because it has enough vram to do things in Blender. Also, you can load a quant of an llm and it runs, making it better than anything with less vram, at llms anyway.
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>>108304813
the other thing is that the screens pump up the price so much, $300+ for a 360 AIO is crazy.
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i've got an old PC that i turned into a homeserver. problem is, its very power hungry (i5-2500k kek). I like the case though. was thinking of getting a cheap low-power cpu, but then i need a new motherboard and psu. what do you /g/ents think would be a good choice? maybe theres are some cheap ~2018 ewaste on ebay?
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>>108304764
if only it didn't cost more to have a metal side instead of a glass window.
I want my 1990 case design with perforations near the GPU on a metal side panel.
soon it's going to cost less to buy shit without these screens on them >>108304648 >>108304700
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>>108304797
what are you, brown and mad about it? i love my White Power build. Pic not rel, but related.
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>8TB ironwolf HDD on amazon
>$449.99
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>>108305072
>ironwolf
you dodged a bullet
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>>108304259
24GB says otherwise
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>>108304813
give me this with a square 120mm fan mount and ill buy it
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>X3D CPUs being bundled to hell and back
>9800X3Ds and 9850X3Ds dying left and right
Maybe AMD should've focused on quality control instead of trying to suck Altman's dick.
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>>108305194
exactly. Which is why I said this:
>>108304820
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>>108305072
Wtf hard drives spiked that much too? What the hell that was the cost of 16-18Tb a month ago??

AI IS THE ANTI CHRIST
AI IS THE ANTI CHRIST
AI IS THE ANTI CHRIST
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>>108305268
Nice fearmongering
Only ASrock
Only dumbass redditors who never update bios or know how2pbo
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>>108305268
AMD has never had good QC
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>>108305325
>Only ASrock
And ASUS
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>>108305268
they are experiencing less than normal failure rates.
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So if I want a 9950x3d I should definitely get an AIO?
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everyone is talking about the new XBOX, it looks like they'll rush to launch it before the ps6 and it'll be basically a computer replacement
honestly I'm pretty excited for AMD consumer hardware now because getting linux support from Valve, windows support from Microsoft and the usual Sony help, it's just a lot of good stuff, it means game devs will optimize their stuff for rnda5 really well while Valve takes care of the older stuff with the mesa group.
the competition on the console space is going to be really good for us consumers, the new xbox is much more powerful than the ps6 will be and it'll be basically windows so it will attract some people away from playstation, it's not going to be a wash for sony as the last gen was and then you have Valve who rarely fucks things up with a cheap alternative, good times
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>>108305791
if they make the new xbox into a pc it will piss off the oems. its gonna be interesting to see how they handle everything.
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>>108305802
it's zen 6 machine with 8 cores, 5 being efficiency cores and a gpu that is iirc rnda5 70 class level
ps6 is quite a bit weaker
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>>108305816
Xbox may have more powerful hardware, but Sony has their own graphics API they keep improving while Microsoft seems stagnant with DirectX. If PC doesn't get DX13 soon or something then it will get left in the dust by Vulkan and the next gen stuff.
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>>108305467
sure
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xbox helix: 3 zen 6 + 8 zen 6c cores, 68 CUs rdna5 gpu, 40 something vram
ps6: 8 zen 6c + 2 zen 6lp, 54 CUs rdna5 gpu, 30 to 40 vram
>>108305849
is sony's gfx api better than directx?
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>>108305467
correct
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>>108305869
sony's api is handmade for playstation only, whereas directx tries to fit everything. xbox has to make compromises for either performance or graphics to ensure it works everywhere. for instance the shader stutter problem on pc could be fixed if they wrote better hlsl code but they can't because it would break other shit. valves aco compiler has to step in and fix it for you because llvm is too shit.
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>>108305869
honestly at this point the raw raster perf is really unusable info
Path tracing perf matters and you cant really see it from a spec sheet, its a more complicated architectural design thing.
also what matters is the software and specific ml upscaling/frame gen accelerating cores

Is next xbox gonna have dlss 4.5 equivalent features? probably not
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>>108304405
Heat
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How much RAM do you really need? I have 32G of DDR5
And even playing Cyberpunk in 4k with path tracing I'm only using like 10GM of RAM at most.
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>>108305869
They can make Horizon Forbidden West and God of War Ragnarok work on PS4, I doubt they would work on Series S.
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>>108306039
32gb is the standard but these days people might struggle on with 16 to get over the insane pricing period
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>>108305849
dx12 is always being updated though
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>>108306039
16gb minimum
32gb recommended
64gb optimal
this is for experimental emulators that memory leak
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>>108306091
they keep dragging their ass with spirv adoption while they keep adding shit nobody uses. its the same shit on windows where they keep adding ai features nobody wants while key stuff like the start menu and taskbar are broken.
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>>108305268
I don't it's a amd problem if it was asus should have the highest failure rate as they are the top amd motherboard seller so we wold see higher faiure rates compared to them if it was a amd problem
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Right now I have a ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III Pro 280, and it's just too loud.

I got be quiet! PURE LOOP 3 280mm, which I read not only is much more quiet, but also cools the CPU better because it has faster fans.

Can I install the be quiet! PURE LOOP 3 280mm without taking off my motherboard? Can I use the same brackets as the ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III?
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>>108305467
I use the noctua nh-u12a with MX7 paste and mine idles are around 41C and they never go above 76C even when playing games like Cyberpunk
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>>108306215
games dont utilize cores much at all
also the ultra mega core boost thing amd likes increases temps fast which in turn causes fans to ramp up and down a lot, aio deals with that and makes the cpu more tolerable to listen to
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>goes on newegg
>this is gonna be fun
>Compatibility
guess ill try tomorrow.
im not smart enough to put pieces together anymore.
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Where do I go to find good reviews for mice?

I want a couple extra side buttons, a high DPI, at least 1000Hz poling rate, and ideally has gesture control as well.
Seems like a big ask. I want something I can use for both work and play.
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Should I buy one of these for storage?
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>>108306285
45TB of storage fro $100.
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>>108306302
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(((compressed)))

lol lmao even
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>browsing Marketplace
>guy selling off his NAS, selling (4) 20tb Iron Wolf drives
>$200 each, bought 2 of them
haven't installed them yet but if they work, did I get a good deal? a year ago that would've been the normal price but obviously it's not a year ago
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>>108306371
if he told the truth, it's fine.
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>AMD marketshare plunges to 5%
https://www.pcworld.com/article/3079686/pc-graphics-cards-are-now-nearly-100-percent-nvidia.html
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>>108306430
what % is intel?
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It's very interesting that there are specifically anti-amd shills.
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>>108306455
1%
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>>108306473
Demonstrating that Intel has only succeeded at stealing marketshare from AMD.
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It's over.
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>want to get a 9800X3D
>feel that if I buy one and it fails, it'll be the straw that breaks me
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>>108306525
That's not real right? Are you in one of those countries that uses dollars, but theirs are basically worthless? This is the price for what looks like that kit here.
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>looking for a good multi purpose mouse
>find the G502 X PLUS
>look at the Logitech's main page for the mouse
>all browns and blacks
That's gonna be a hard "no" from me, dawg.
Anyone else just lose all interest in buying a product when you see forced DEI shit?
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>>108306579
Presumably your motherboard MFG or AMD has to send you a new one assuming you bought new and weren't overclocking.
My 9900x3d hasn't self destructed yet.
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>xbox releases an 8 second clip that just has a helix logo
>there are multiple 10 minute soi face videos showing up in the search results
you think the companies are the problem? lmao.

anyways, helix is an INTERESTING NAME! think about the DNA helix... 2 strands connecting... so xbox is releasing a HELIX console... fusing XBOX and PC... as they exit the console market...
(this is the last xbox, it will allow you to transfer your xbox library to windows, and you will become a pc gamer after this)

if this is priced right it will eliminate the mid range prebuilt market, and the GabeCube will eliminate the low end prebuilt market.
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>>108306596
I think it's a glitch.
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>>108306601
>when you summon the Logitech megazord and it's a huge, gaudy piece of shit that fails a quarter of the way through the battle
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>>108306634
Are they US dollars? What site?
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>>108306642
Newegg USD.
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>>108306638
What mouse do you recommend?
I need something like this >>108306282
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>>108306644
I can see it too, weird.

>I think it's a glitch.
Yeah, I'd assume so given another kit that looks like it only differs by voltage is a reasonable price.
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>>108306645
My current mouse is a Razer Deathadder Essential I paid like $20 for. I only used wired mice, and I tend to stick to cheap wired mice. Every time I've spent money on a mouse, the mouse has failed within 6 months. I learned my lesson.



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