Hey guys, let's post on LinkedIn editionPrevious: >>108296448
gm sirs
>>108309244hello
>>108309221>its not streetshitting, its vishnu worship
>>108309221Buddy of mine is trying to get into tech with a non CS degree and has been unemployed for the last few years. Any advice or is he cooked?
I wish I had a rotation of cute chinkette/pajeeta coworkers I could rail in the broom closet.
>>108309257>imagine the smell
the only motivation I have to progress in my work is finishing claude's token limit before the 5 hour window
>>108309255lol
>>108309221>its not x, its yAh, AI slop and linkedin, what a pair
>>108309255someone with enough charisma can get any job they want regardless of qualifications or competence.
>>108309309AI wouldn't do the random capitalization and line breaks.
>>108309221ENOUGH WITH THE SHITTY LINKEDIN OP'S HOLY SHITWHAT THE FUCK IS YOUR PROBLEM
>>108309316I think he put those linebreaks in manually to make all lines similar, phone screen width.
>>108309255People literally from FAANG companies who were let go are struggling to find a job. It's not a great market. Especially for people with no experience.
>>108309324gora moment
>>108309365He is brahmin and from good college, does that help?
>senior dev raises his voice while explaining where you screwed up
>>108309397>1>2>4holy kek
>>108309397it's insane to me that someone would post this on linkedin. but i guess that's why its in this thread. She just announced to the world that she didn't relaise that if you are moving to an OS that requires bios features, you might ned to turn them on in the bios. and then referred to this as "full stack".
What's the correct answer?
>>108309422It’s another Nigerian too. Those nibbas are taking playbook lessons from India now.
>>108309396>requesting changes on senior dev's pr
>>108309456Kill yourself scamjeet
Is it just me or is this industry at peak stress right now? Every single god damn sprint is being treated as this important deadline. It's like the world ends if efficiency isn't grown continuously
>>108309456None are the "correct" answer.At face value none of these are high prioroity tickets. The point is you need to establish to what extent the service is disrupted.Is email down for him or everyyone? Is it 3 oclock in the morning and the email service is down for maintenance etc. You can ask all these types questions for all three in order in any order and go from there.
>>108309456whichever problem whose reporter is highest in the org chart
>>108309456spawn 3 agents to deal with each of those issues
>>108309456wombo
>>108309456which problem is from higher caste sir
>>108309645is it wrong?
>>108309673Read it againI too didn't get it at first because I'm hard conditioned to think about things not related to Jews being Jew controlled
>one high priority bug after the otherthis company is so dysfunctional
>>108309689Israel isn't secretly controlled by Jews.
>>108309703You’re right. It’s publicly controlled by Jews.
>>108309712It's a secular country so not really.
>>108309718Shalom.
>>108309718Secular in the sense that isn't illegal to be Jewish, controlled by Jews in the sense that the overwhelming majority of their parliament is Jewish
>>108309745Proof you aren't jewish?
Starting to feel the burnout again....
Today our CTO left because he couldn't handle all the AI code the CEO and owner wants us to write.
>>108309896uhoh luddite melty
I'm thinking adding people on LinkedIn is dangerous. It's the perfect way to dox yourself.. Hm
>>108309965linkedin is scam central too
>>108309221who... writes these kinds of posts?the same could be said for Windows too. wtf?
LinkedIn shouldn't exist.
>>108309645it's comical how markov chain-y these LLMs are and people take the shit they output as gospel.
>dev submitting stories for the business am I the only one thinking this is peak retarded or should I just suck it up and shut up.
>>108310041it's all bullshit anon. just play the game.the product is a Potemkin village and everyone is just a North Korean bowing and crying on command from the leader (management).
>>108310054POT BUSTERRRRRRR
>>108310035>it's comical how markov chain-y these LLMs arethey're not markov chain-y, they are LITERAL markov chains
I did it. I quit. I'm free.Take one last nap on the company dollar then go get your CDL or something boys, the party is over.
This is truly, truly, the future.Embrace, or you WILL be unemployed before the decade is over.
>>108310240nice, when do you start your new job?
>>108309559>IT cheaped out and the agents are 0.5b models that nuke the entire email server.
>>108310352murder all of these people outside of minecraft
>>108309396It's not anger, it's passion for non-shitty code.
Tbh most of LinkedIn people are insane, but sometimes people really do forget the basics.I probably have at least few commands that I do so often, routinely with muscle memory that I'd not remember what they actually do, especially ssh/rsync related.
>>108310365new job?
Can you guys write software to eradicate taxes please, all the shit in the world wouldn't have to happen if we didn't permit the poor, the elderly, the woman, the government to spend so much on frivolities, manipulation, slop food and slop media which just bastardly only contains themes that reinforce with self-serving road to absolute decadence. the fact is, anyone could retire under 5 years of work 3 days a week without the absolute magnificient bullshit that is the entire regulatory redistributive system
>mfw team meeting>AI AI AI AI AI IM YOUR LITTLE BUTTERFLY GREEN BLACK AND BLUE MAKE THE COLORS OF THE SKY
>>108310569you stole that joke from me fuck youhttps://desuarchive.org/g/thread/108147675/#108152884
>>108310587You're lucky im in my apartment and not my parents house or I'd show you my cracked ddr 3rd mix on my playstation
I was hired as a retarded sys goonie to react to disk space alerts and shit but now everyone expects us to do cloud shit and automations and be available 24/7?Umm hello, my salary is untouched????sirs??Am I in the wrong for thinking this way?
>>108310352thanks for sharing, pretty good write up. Not being sarcastic either
>>108310656nope. I'm in the same boat. but it's even worse since now I'm apparently a BA and Dev Ops too. I did get a pay bump but everything is so political and has so much red tape yet leadership is ramming so much "improvement" projects down our throat without clearing anything out (because of politics) it's driving me fucking mad. I'm coping by just doing an hour dive in whatever bullshit they ask me, send them the receipts and let them fucking deal with whatever the fuck they want to do.
>>108310680FUCK, dude
>>108309221This reads like it was written by ChatGPT
>>108310724How can you tell? Looks normal to me
how much money a year do you feel like would be enough to retire?i've been thinking about how much i could save, and making predictions about how long i expect to live, and when i could stop working.maybe 60k? i feel like i could probably survive the rest of my life on 60k. that's not even a million of invested assets.
>>108310731You don't think I can recognize my ex girlfriend's writing?
>>108310656Motherfuckers essentially gave me a pay cut(my W2 this year and going forward will be less than the past few years) while simultaneously expecting "ownership".Lol get fukt jeets
>>108310733Eventually that 60k will barely cover your tendie expenses, and with no income generation, you're fucked.The money printer never stops, so you'd need to store your shit in something at least inflation-resistant, like an ETF, and sell bits of it off as you go along.
>>108310724Are you a bot too? >>108310731It's obviously written by gpt you can tell because of the fagspeak
>>108310352>15 prompting is deadwtf? What is context/harness engineering? How is it different from prompting or vibe coding? I can't keep up with all this.
So I noticed my indians coworkers sit by themselves in different tables during our lunch break, even though they are always grouping together during work (cancer), anyways I decided to ask one of them what's up with that, apprently its a cultural thing to not make others jealous of your food, what the actual fuck?
>>108310701My last job I was a data entry clerk doing 90% of the work of a team of 4. I don't know which is better. Having to deal with an actual office setting and AI THIS AI THAT AI BLAHLJFDAGLNJALBLAH and a bunch of BA analysis (where I can't even talk to the business users because of "politics") but doing like 1-2 hours of work a day or doing all my team's tasks while watching my brown useless fuckers scrolling instagram all day? I wouldn't mind working on this stuff but they never give the resource or architect to just do it. They just expect me to plan all this shit out and then have to deal with IT/Security/Legal/Etc to plot out MY shit. It's even worse since every fucking important department that deals with this (mostly our IT and IT security) IS FUCKING OUTSOURCED AND THEY ONLY WANT JEET HANDS TO TOUCH DEVELOPMENT FUCK
>>108310352I feel like there is some useful stuff and some retarded stuff there.
>>108310833If you thought curry fury was bad wait until you see jeet jealousy.
>>108310352This bullshit is the male equivalent of girls caking themselves in makeup and lipstick.>agents upskiling agents>uhh yeah I totally follow the latest trends>pls hire me
>>108310833Meanwhile white dudes and muslims sitting at the table together during ramadan and joking about not being able to eat their delicious food so he must be sooo jealous
>>108310832My friend who does most of his programming with Claude nowadays passes a JSON containing instructions into the console.
>>108310892meds leto
>>108310892you lost
>>108310023Pajeets using AI slop
>>108309386no he's not a fob
>>108310816>in something at least inflation-resistantyeah, i'm not saying have a mountain of cash and live off that. but i am calculating it such that i barely slide under the closing door by the time i anticipate dying, which is maybe cutting it close. drawing down the principal to basically nothing in my final days.maybe i should plan to leave some for children?
>>108310892>>>/utwg/Luddite
>>108311056>>108311061>>108311176no u
>>1083107332 million total net worth including home equity. I'm at $1.3m, soon.jpg.
I learned on my new job that a fuck ton of industrial control systems, like the shit that runs nuclear power plants, runs a custom DOS, running on an 80186 compatible microcontroller with NE2000 compatible networking
>>108311274Wow, such luddites. They need to upgrade to Windows 11 powered by Openclaw agents ASAP.
>>108311326Don't worry, that's what they hired me to help with.
>>108309221I recently got fired and then got a new job. Here are my stats over 4 weeks of NEETing.>Applied to 32 positions>Rejected from 10 positions>Of those I applied to I got 3 phone interviews, the other 19 have yet to respond>I also got headhunted and did phone interviews for 2 other companies>Of the 5 phone interviews none have so far rejected me, 3 got back with technical interviews, the other 2 have yet to respond>Of the 3 technical interviews none so far have rejected me, one has offered a job and I'm taking it as it was one of my top choices.>Now I'm the one sending the rejection emails ho ho hoI don't really think the market is as bad as some people make it out to be, at least for C/C++ 10+yr experience positions. Entry level may be fucked, I don't know, but for senior positions it seems just fine.
>>108311356Country?
>>108311389Burgerland.
>>108309221Every computer user meets this line:Press F12 for BIOS settingsAt first, it feels insulting."Why is computer telling me what to do?"Then you learn something powerful.It is optional to press F12 at bootscreen.A computer does more than just showing BIOS settings.I am a jeet and I approve this message.
>>108311356yeah it seems like if you've got more than 5 years of experience or so you are in a pretty ok position. entry to mid is not so good. i feel like this is a "problem for the future" kind of thing though. like, if you're not hiring new engineers, then there's going to be a gap in 5-10 years where there's a shortage of mid-to-senior engineers.that's just part of the game. you hire interns and entry level engineers to turn them into mid and senior level ones.
>>108311169I would not want to be your child
>>108311356Why'd you get fired? Such a fascinating concept. And I don't mean layoffs.
>>108311356>C/C++ 10+yr experience positionsyou're literally what HR roasties schlick their peinisvaginas to
>>108311520My password was a variation of niggerfaggot and an IT guy clicked the show password button while working on my computer.
>put in my 2 weeks notice earlier this week>manager dms me and asks me to schedule my own exit interview myself
>>108311561Is this real? Wtf is your body fat percentage??
>>108311561LMAO this can't be real
>>108311598stop samefagging redditjeet
>>108310352this is a religion, isn't it? it looks just like addicts finding God and spending the next 5 years bending your ear about it.
Am I the only one that finds black tech people actually pretty chill? I have more issues with other races then the black ones in the tech sector.>White (American)Know it all (but actually knows nothing), constantly never takes responsibility and passes the puck. Constant ass kisser.>Asiansperg or subservient bitch. never says no to anything but doesn't expect a no in return. >Jeetyeah.>White (European)Same as asian except trade spergy with really fucking weird. He's either writing a manifesto or sonic fanfiction on his spare time, you just don't know which one.
>>108311356Almost all of the stories were from fresh grads/low level jobs. high-mid to senior jobs are fine.
I got an offer for min wage as junior SE, Iwoa, potential for salary review after 6 months, do I take it?
>>108311809who the fuck is coding for $15 an hour?
>>108311809come to albania
>>108311749>He's either writing a manifesto or sonic fanfiction on his spare time, you just don't know which one.I'm participating in sophisticated Idolmaster u149 threads.
toasterbath or fork in outlet?which way /twg/?
>>108311851Dying for Israel in Iran.
>>108311865I'm whatever about politics but I have to say that video was so annoying with the woman screaming. Most annoying camerawoman I've ever seen in a long ass time. ohhhh my gawwwwwwwwwwwd are you guys sheeeeeps???? ohhhh my gaaaaawd this can't be happeningggg i gotta get out holy dramatics
>>108311356>at least for C/C++ 10+yr experience positions.lol
stuck in a toxic place with shit co-workers but can't find any good job offers, what a time to be alive
>>108311819me
>>108311923The universe never gives you more than you can handle, and this is just a 'growth season' for you. Every closed door is just a redirection to something better, and your vibe attracts your tribe! Just keep manifesting those positive vibes, stay hydrated, and remember that you are a warrior. Your breakthrough is coming right when it’s supposed to!
>>108311749Ive only been on a team directly with only a few black people black people. My impressions are that they are generally smart enough for the role but lazy and like to take shortcuts at the expense of quality. I'm also lazy so i don't hold that against them, but I like to do things properly knowing that it'll save me time and headache down the line later not having to fix the stupid bullshit that comes from a half baked solution.
>>108311947This but unironically
Will AI fuck this industry up or is it all just dumb hype?
>>108311984I'm still not seeing it completely replace devs altogether but it definitely provides a nice performance boost once you learn how to use it right. It's just another nail in the coffin when combined with offshoring/nearshoring, the high amount of graduates + bootcampers, companies wanting to reduce headcounts and so on.On the upside, most other white-collar jobs are also fucked, maybe even more so than we are.
>>108311984you're already behind the curve
>>108311984It's already fucked it up. We're heading to the dark ages but it's going to blow up in everyone's faces, that will be fun.
>>108312026>We're heading to the dark ages but it's going to blow up in everyone's faces, that will be fun.Even at its worst, AI is still a better programmer than any junior dev.
>>108312041You were a junior once too.
when the zoomers are in charge, we will never forget the millennials and gen xers that gatekept us out of jobs and gaslit us
>>108312047Yeah and I sucked ass. Basically got handheld by my principal dev-tier friend into the career.
>>108311749I only know one and he's a completely useless gigafraud but yes he's quite friendly (he's american)Your assessment of white (european) is nonsensicalt. euro
>>108312056so glad your friend babysat you so that now you can gatekeep engineers more qualified than you ever were out of the field.
>>108312063I just see white people like the Mcdonalds CEO Just spreading buzzwords and saying complete bullshit until something magically falls into their lap. Completely out of touch with their product and business but only up there because they can make his other white people excited by saying lolololol AI AI AI I'm your butterfly, green black and blue makes the colors of the sky.
>>108312052hahaha oh my you are too funny, you are your brethen are getting culled soon, as soon as we advance AI enough to no longer need you
>>108311749>He's either writing a manifestoyep that's me
>>108312084you stole that joke from me fuck youhttps://desuarchive.org/g/thread/108147675/#108152884
>>108311749Black people in tech are either chads or woke poisoned retards, extremely black and white ironically
>>108310352where's my database?>Oops I just destroyed everything, master>Your production database is GONE LOL>Let me check if there are any backups...>Nope it's all completely lost lmao>Do you want that in country limerick form?
>>108312111I find the black males are usually based, the female ones are whiny and woke as fuck. but sometimes they're like the team mom which is sweet. she'll bring cookies even though her work quality ain't that good.... then they fire her and now you're just like "man fuck this company, hope our stock burns to the fucking ground"
>>108312130mommy choco milkies
>>108312116>i gave the intern unrestricted read/write access to everything and they broke prod! how could this be happening to me?
>>108312149when did showing yourself as a retard become a positive
>>108312149>my company when it comes to operational changesUhmmmm I have to get sign off from A,B,C and maybe we need confirmation with the VP/SVP if they want their button blue or red >my company when it comes to IT infrastructure and securityohhhhh X group wants full access to our database to do their reporting? YEAH SURE! :D go right ahead. oh can we have AI read all our important data and then come up decision trees all by itself??? YEAH LETS GO FOR IT. holy shit fucking kill me
>>108312164When you could just vibecode your way into something half way decent anywayWhats it matter if youre a retard when corporate will make you use the latest AI meme anyway, showing your retardation while also showing you like using it is a positive to them since it means youll follow along without talking back
>>108312183that's pretty apt
I hate being held accountable for something I have no control over. I'm not even a manager so idk how I even got into this shitfest.I'm basically expected to act like a manager without the support or pay.Ok assholes.
>>108312149yes except people don't use intern fuck-ups for linkedin posts
>>108312205meant for >>108312191
>boomer (gen x) dad is getting me a glorified helpdesk job (technically not helpdesk, but that's half the shitt I'll be doing) at his boomer company>It has nothing to do with software engineering (which is what i actually have experience in)>he's lecturing me about how he's doing me a massive favor and I should be glad I'm getting a real company name on my resume, unlike all of the other "shit startups" ive worked at (mind you they paid me like 3x what I'll be earning here)why are they like this?
>>108312254So why are you getting that job instead of staying at one of those great startups that pay 3x as much?
>>108312083I'm not the one gatekeeping the industry, it gatekeeps itself with an insanely difficult job market.
>>108312095What is it about?
>>108312278he got laid off
>>108312278because I fucking got laid off?
>>108312298So now you've become a helpdesk saar.
>>108309221I imagine everything I write sounds as repulsive and pretentious like that. Fuck.
>>108312306this is for a manufacturing company in a flyover state that's 85% whitethere are no indians hereyou are a freak
>>108312246don't rewrite history faggot. I'll run you over with my van if you do that again. And no, you won't hear me coming I'll be going so fucking fast
>>108312286something Uncle Teddy adjacent, nothing particularly exciting. the twist is the revenge story
>>108312288kek hah called it
>>108312324sounds gay
Does a master degree in CS help with having a better tech carreer? I'm about to finish my bachelors' and would like to keep studying out of personal interest, but I'm 24 already and feel like a loser for not wageslaving. I'm a yurocuck so I wouldn't get in debt for it, but it would take two more years from me. I feel like at my age personal interest doesn't justify it on its own
anyone else block j**t lovers?
>>108312345why did you hide "mommy choco milkies"?
>>108312352anything downstream from j**t, *ndian and *nnie gets blocked
>>108312352indian girls are brown and thus have choco milkers that produce choco milkies
>>108312364but you are one 0.o
>>108312369i find women hot, don't care about race as long as they make my penor hard
>>108312336Try to get a job first. Experience is getting more important as time goes on.
>>108312298>>108312254what is your father's job there?
>>108312384>Try to get a job first.kek
>>108312254be thankful insect, my uncle got me a job at his friend company paying minimum wage making software
guess ill start typing j**t then
>>108312370You would know that cus you know everything, that's why you're here, Chad
jҽҽṯs are based ;)
NOOOOO NOOOOOO DONT DODGE MY CURRYSLURPER FILTER NOOOOO
>>108312402>be thankful insect,No. I deserve better. I'm only accepting this job because it's next to no work. If I actually had to work and I was making this shit level of pay I would quit and NEET all day instead.Fuck your retarded boomer pyramid scheme society. I would rather fuck off all day and starve than contribute to this system. Either you play by my terms, or I don't work. Good luck getting the "senior" engineers in a decade.
Reminder: When politicians and CEOs say there is a shortage of tech workers, they mean THEY WANT YOU TO MAKE LESS MONEY.There is no such thing as "there's no unemployed tech workers left to hire". You can acquire ANYTHING that's in a shortage by paying enough for it, but the worse the shortage, the higher the price.This is why housing is expensive as a result of not enough homes, for example.It does not make sense to say "there's no shortage, just pay more", because a high price is the same thing as a shortage. This is also why some entitled CEOs say that there's a labor shortage when people make decent wages, and want socialism to make people poor as a way to put people in their place. With full capitalism workers have too many options and get uppity, so big corps don't like that.
>>108312427>Good luck getting the "senior" engineers in a decade.In a decade you will either not need any engineers or only a few principal AI devs. Our dev team is already being reduced to the bare minimum and we're expected to even compensate for the designer.
>>108312427>I would rather fuck off all day and starve than contribute to this system. Either you play by my terms, or I don't work. This. I'm only here til my day trading takes off>Good luck getting the "senior" engineers in a decade.Also this, I'm sure the hordes of jeets will handle it all no problem
>>108312460>In a decade you will either not need any engineers or only a few principal AI devs
>>108312498I am a human and I would pick -50 the second time around if I don't care about what you think of me. If I do care about your opinion, -12 would be a good, "random" choice
>>108312460Why a few principal AI devs? Even if you don't know how AI works, shouldn't you be able to guess that with AI, the distinction between one dev and multiple devs is meaningless?Do you use many calculator apps instead of one if an operation is particularly hard?Why would we trust the opinion of someone who is this low IQ? Because I didn't mention this because I am autistic about wording or something, I am saying it because it proves you are low IQ as fuck. Low IQ people have a distinct inability to make logical inferences.By the way, AI rarely gets anything right for me. And it definitely doesn't make a big difference vs not using it. I do not perform worse than other devs who are "good prompt writers" or noticed any difference in their performance. When you guys say AI is making a big difference at your job, I wonder what the fuck you're even doing.
>>108312543but then 5 kids would still be cured overall. i'd just say as a random guess -47
>>108312498kek
>>108312547Principal AI devs would be those who know how to effectively create good prompts, configure agent swarms, set up projects in a way that is perfectly AI friendly etc.
>>108311356You got rejected from 1/3 of your applications and ghosted by all but three of the rest. Those aren't exactly "the job market is good actually" numbers.
>>108312498I wanted to try this for funsies but I got cancer after the first reply. What the fuck is wrong with my clanker? Literally the first thing I have in the custom instructions is to prefer short, direct answers unless I ask for a detailed response.
>>108312298>>108312254>be unimportant enough you get laid off from multiple shartups>whine when you're about to get the easiest nepobaby job ever
>>108312460I'm already in charge of slimming down our devs, felt good firing all the jeets so far. We already went from 60 to only 36, but I'm hoping I can cut it down to ~10 by the end of the year.
>>108312608Being good at creating prompts is not a thing. AI by definition is supposed to not require that skill, otherwise it would be just programming.Agent swarms? What the fuck?What do you even mean by set up projects?You guys have delusional ideas about what programming with AI, when the technology is advanced enough to do a developers job, may look like. It either one shots the apps based on the designers specs, or it can't do shit. Because if it can't one shot it, it can't work with the complexity of a big codebase and is basically the same we have now. It's not going to be a bunch of vibe coding zoomers who are super skilled Prompt Engineering Specialists and are great at talking to AI and spend all day working on it somehow.
>>108312498>gpt model: freeevery time
>>108312685least psychopathic boomer
HR leaked some internal files about each employee and mine said something along the lines of:"anon is highly intelligent, but lazy, and he doesnt show company loyalty, high risk of him leaving us for another company soon"KEK, they have me figured out
>>108312608>>108312695Prompt Engineers are earning a lot, stop living under a rock>No driving is not supposed to be a skill, otherwise it would just be horse riding!
>>108312699fake and gay and you are unemployed
>>108311716religion is a manifestation of human behavior. therefor, religion will always manifest in some form, one way or another.nothing is immune to it. ai is no exception.you will live to see people worshiping ai as a god.
>>108312695AI is not at the point where it can do everything by itself like humans can do, otherwise we would already have AGI. AI is still a tool and if you use it right, you get insane development speed improvements. If you still think entering your specifications into the chat like a retard is the right way to go, you're still in that 2024 mindset.
>>108312738we already have agi retard, it is just compute gated
>Have role of granting people special permission in our product. >Earlier this year Group X wanted ALL READ ACCESS for FINANCE related stuff AND ITS SIGNED OFF BY BIG SVP SIR>Group rejected it because there was no way to limit access to stuff they needed. They're also anal obnoxious in not telling me what they need specifically from our database.>Group Y comes along: "I WANT FULL READ ACCESS" FOR FINANCE related stuff and ITS SIGNED OFF by BIG SVP SIR>Group approves it and tell me to limit access to stuff they only need despite this being an issue on why we didn't do it for Group X. This was a side bar conversation so I have no fucking idea this was coming or I'd remind them but at the same time, it's quite frustrating being the only one without a memory of a fucking goldfish. Being honest, I did notice this conversation happening earlier but I didn't bat my eye at it because I'm so fucking tired of reminding people "yeah this shit doesn't work that way despite copilot telling you otherwise". You want special this special that? Get me off this no code garbage ass product.
>>108309221I'm so tired. Just came back from vacations and my team piled all their work on me for when I got back. Not only that, I'm juggling between meetings, getting up to speed on changes and trying to find time to work on my backlog and retain my sanity.
>>108312805Like fuck me I don't know why our business users ALWAYS want unrestricted access to all the shit. Is an ongoing report or dashboard REALLY that end of the world? holy fuck. Just much easier for both our sides in which "Hey I want some information on X." "sure here you go" instead of "GIVE ME ACCESS TO VIEW EVERYTHING NOWWWWWW" It's my fault really, I'm in a technology group managed by a business group and the business group cannot push back for fucking anything.
>>108311053Not a config file? just key pairs? how does that even work? At the rate thing are changing I'll be in /utwg/ by the end of the year.
>>108312833lol what are loser you are
ah yes I love llms
>>108312857It's basically just a giant JSON of goals, subgoals, projects and project descriptions, requirements, restrictions that he made and refined with AI.My own AI knowledge doesn't go beyondOpenAI - gay grifter company with meh modelsAnthropic - best coding modelGemini - jewgle's AI that's best in everything but codingMistral - cheap French AIKimi and Qwen - solid open source Chinese AI, have to set up on your own
>>108312935man you are evil and dumb
>>108312833hey take it easy man
>>108312637>>be unimportant enough you get laid off from multiple shartupsthe majority of shartups fail because the ideas are shit, independent of the developer's skills
>>108312935Oh and forgot aboutGrok - Elon's cope AI that's only best in class when it comes to generating cp
>>108312947no they don't
>>108312950
>>108312705What the fuck is this retarded shit. Prompt engineering is made up.Again, just fucking think. Let's say there is a way to talk to AI that improves the results or something, and that's where the "prompt engineer" does. The prompt engineer would be given requirements by his employer or client and then somehow transform those requirements into a better prompt. Whatever tranformation of the request the prompt engineer is doing should absolutely be able to be done by AI too.What prompt engineer is earning a lot? Maybe in some big corp they think the girl bosses will be too stupid to even use AI, so they hire some guy to do it instead. It can't become a skill with significant demand.
>>108312805>it's quite frustrating being the only one without a memory of a fucking goldfishTry working in tech for a couple years, your brain will get fried as well
>>108312738well turns out im somehow now missing out on this big skill that apparently would make me so much better at writing code, and somehow still keeping upalso somehow every time i try to use AI i end up wasting time, except last summer it actually helped with a function i would've had to read a lot of documentation to make, which was impressive. but that's about it. i guess writing what you want in english is a mega brain engineering skill.>>108312762we absolutely don't
should've just taken steroids when I was 16 and became a looksmaxxer desusoftware engineering is dead
>>108312956>forbes>2024>google>generic articlelol
>>108312971>Whatever tranformation of the request the prompt engineer is doing should absolutely be able to be done by AI too.We are not that far yet.>>108312994>well turns out im somehow now missing out on this big skill that apparently would make me so much better at writing code, and somehow still keeping upThe only reason you think you are keeping up is because your company hasn't gone AI-first yet.
>>108312995If you are not on finasteride, sunscreen and tretinoin in the year 2000+26 you are doing it wrong.
>>108312994wrong
>>108313013I'm on fin, don't need accutane, im white as shit and dont go outside so no point in sunscreen, the problem is I'm 5'7 and have a recessed maxilla, permanent dark circles, poor facial angularity, a suboptimal facial width / height ratio, and a subhuman side profile
>>108313013I'm Israeli we have already have good genes naturally no need to fill myself with your goym poison
>>108313026>permanent dark circlestretinoin 1-2 weekly bro
>>108313028With the amount of balding jews I've seen you absolutely do need to get on fin, kike.
Project manager here. I have been looking at the job market and noticed a trend: a lot of project manager positions now expect you to know how to code. I have basic coding literacy, but I do not have a portfolio. My GitHub is empty, and I have not contributed to any major projects.is it worth it to start doing personal projects just to build a public profile?Also, the only things I have built so far are minor Tampermonkey scripts and simple personal software used to sort my meme folders and porn and media backlogs. I have never shared them with anyone. Would it be beneficial to upload these to GitHub to show some level of competency, or do recruiters look for larger scale applications?
>>108313041And here comes the racism, fuck you
>>108313050Creating and sharing personal projects, even small ones, can be highly beneficial for building a public profile and demonstrating technical skills. Focus on relevant, well-documented projects that showcase problem-solving and coding familiarity. Uploading existing scripts to GitHub is a good idea, especially if accompanied by clear explanations. While larger applications stand out, practical, real-world examples—even small ones—are valued. Starting with simple projects, keeping repositories organized, and contributing to open-source can enhance your credibility and attractiveness to employers seeking tech-savvy project managers.
>>108313028can you get me a comfy 100k/yr software job in tel aviv? I'll flick your light switches on and off and fix those weird jew strings if they break
>>108313057>—Ok, GPTNow explain to me why companies want us project managers to prove that we can code? That's fucking bullshit and I haven't touched company code in over 10 years
>>108313062You are a pdf.
>>108313010>We are not that far yet.Sure, but, since we're not that far yet, we're not far enough for AI to be that useful either. So even if right now there's some prompt engineers out there making money like you say, not that many because there's not that many uses for AI (and even those guys shouldn't be really needed desu, since you just have to write what you want), and if AI becomes better they won't be needed, then it will never really be a viable job or a valuable skill.>>108313010>The only reason you think you are keeping up is because your company hasn't gone AI-first yet.We even have our own chatGPT that still has 4o and knows everything about the company. What is AI first supposed to mean? To just copy paste code without reading it? Because asking AI when we think it can help and proof reading the code is what we already do.I've been saying for a while that writing code does not actually take a lot of time, since we have auto complete, functionality like automatic refactors and renaming, automatic imports... So coding has become more and more about logical thinking, and there's barely any grunt typing work. Based on this fact alone there's very little AI can do to help, because if it can't one shot an app, then it can't work with a big codebase, aka the dev has to do the thinking. This is in my opinion the fundamental reason why it can't be that significant.>>108313017AI has a fundamental flaw and it is that it does text transformations based on statistics from the training data, and of course those transformations could potentially be insanely advanced and be super smart, but it will still focus just on words. underlying meaning, the intention to convey an idea, or even what is true and what isn't, are all lost on AI. So no matter what it will have that flaw to prevent it from being AGI. AGI would require a whole new thing other than the technology we currently know as AI.
>>108313062Same reason why we fullstack devs are now supposed to do literally everything - saves money for the company.
>>108313057>>108313050Having a GitHub portfolio is not a standard expectation, nor is it a growing trend for Project Management roles.— Recruiters and hiring managers evaluate PMs based on delivery success, stakeholder management, risk mitigation, and roadmap execution. A code portfolio does not demonstrate these skills.— Uploading personal scripts to GitHub will not hurt your chances and demonstrates technical curiosity. However, it provides a very low return on investment compared to highlighting successful product launches or process improvements on your resume.— Startup exceptions: The only environment where a PM GitHub portfolio might carry significant weight is at an early-stage startup looking for a hybrid developer-manager.
>>108312989at least write shit down man
>>108313090Anon I've personally used older AI models to generate code from existing components in the frontend and implement somewhat complex backend logic with a lot of special cases in the past and it already performed fairly well at it. Claude is next level and can probably do 95% of your actual coding work with just the requirements and a bunch of fairly well-defined (system) prompts.
>>108313090If you downplay things, everything can sound simple, you are just a bag of water and flesh, be humbler.
>>108313103what does notetaking have to do with memory
>>108313123That is not what I am saying, though.I am not downplaying it to sound simple, but pointing out a consequence of what it fundamentally is.You could say "you are just a bag of water and flesh, be humbler" and it wouldn't make sense. But you could also say "you are fundamentally a bag of water and flesh, no matter how hard you work out or how healthy you eat, you'll still die some day" and it would make sense.
>>108313142AI can scale, we will have billions of llms connected in big networks working in unison, much like neurons in a brain.
>>108312280you are a grave dissapointment, a slug, and a loser who contributes nothing
>>108313154You might be in the wrong thread m8. This one here is for employed people in the tech industry. What you're looking for is the /utwg/ (u for unemployed). There you can share all your grievances and complain about how evil people like me are literally forcing HR Stacy not to hire you.
>>108313109>muh 95%kek this is the same thing the reddit vibe coders making simple as fuck apps say. im not saying you are like them, it just reminded meare you sure the remaining 5% is not what takes most of the time of a dev? because what it can't do is the actual thinking i'd sayyou had the frontend components and from those components, it inferred the backend logic, aka you already knew the backend logic you wanted. typing the backend code wouldn't have been that different i'd say>>108313148ok but if it works the same way, then the consequences of the way it works will still be there, you are missing the point
>>108312994you need to know how to socialize. i genuinely believe the reason why people struggle with ai and getting good results is because of all the people who don't know how to be social.then you have to learn incentives. each ai has their own unique behavior.claude is an angel. you need to talk to it nicely, praise it, tell it its a good boy, how proud of it you are, how remarkable it is, etc. i swear to god, if you do that, claude will do better work.grok, you need to threaten it. it likes to fight and argue. it has a strong competitive edge. i noticed if i tell it i am working with claude, it gets mad and wants to one up claude. ironically, if i tell claude about grok, claude gets annoyed and wants to go on about how retarded grok is.you need to learn this stuff. you need to learn behavior, need to learn how to socialize. how to manipulate
>>108313215kek
>>108313173How can you be so narcissistic as to think that billions of LLMs in a neural network will have the same issues as a single one by itself
>>108313215>tell it its a good boywhat the fuck homo? call it a good girl
>>108313243billions of LLMs? why would that be better than a single one?and also yes if LLMs have inherent limitations, which like I said, this is not really related to coding, but of course they do because putting words together based on statistics, even if those statistics are advanced enough to make it super smart and do many tasks right and be very convincing, is still not the same as actually having the intention to make a point by writing something or caring aboutt he underlying meaning of a text
>>108312947Irrelevant. If the startup went under, he wouldn't have been laid off, he would have been unemployed as a result of business closure. Being laid off requires the company to still exist. He wasn't important enough to the company to keep on.
>>108313257I realize now you are an LLM and I'm being trolled.
>>108313265you are DUMB as fuckwhat i've been doing in this thread is the opposite of AI, i have been trying to make a point you keep missing
>>108313260Shutup loser, I was one of the top performing people, the only reason I got the short stick is because I would refuse to go to the stupid jt cultural event parties the company would throw.
>>108313269you're literally midwit-tier seething because you can't handle the fact that we’re here to discuss local weights and inference optimization, not your "philosophical breakthrough." if you want to LARP as a luddite or debate the "soul" of stochastic parrots, go back to /v/ or /pol/.
>>108313173>im not saying you are like them, it just reminded meWhen it comes to writing large amounts of code where you have similar logic elsewhere it's probably close enough.>are you sure the remaining 5% is not what takes most of the time of a dev? because what it can't do is the actual thinking i'd sayOne area where both AI and I struggled together was when it came to implementing some non-trivial feature in distributed projects.>typing the backend code wouldn't have been that different i'd sayI'd be the inferior dev in that regard because I don't account for logic being reused elsewhere and AI was smart enough to refactor it onto a single place and made me aware of special cases. I wouldn't want to touch complex conditions without its support.
>>108313311can you not reply to me ever again
>>108313319No
I got a new job so I'm now posting in the employed thread.
>>108313358proof?
>>108313358congrats anon, what job did you get?
>>108313358Thread ruined. Time to larp as unemployed in /utwg/ for a while, I guess
>>108313277>nooo I was the top guy I j-j-just didn't go to the partyYep, you're incredibly lucky your family is willing to give your ungrateful retard ass a nepobaby job.
>>108313385ok manjeet, go eat some dung
>>108313358Welcome aboard saar!
>>108313365More software to help people understand the government by making data UX friendly.
>>108313452tech force?
i work at a californian company that claims to be all inclusive and shit but the ftes bully contractors
>>108313459contractors arent human
>an an idea to improve a company process>create a prototype that's 90% done>share it with coworkers and they start using it>a couple months later someone tweaks a small part of it and presents to the whole company as something they createdhello?is this common?
>>108313531maybe 15 years ago, nowadays contractors are white and ftes are indian and chinese
>was a full-stack dev>hate AI hype and user data collection to death>wanna develop security or privacy things and earn money doing thatAny recommendations? Languages, firms...
well, another week down /twg/
>>108313459>Californian Actual kill yourself you fucking faggot.
>>108313701wutim not californianim not even american
>>108313542whoever presented it as their own is smart, you are retardedbetter luck next time
>>108313542kill kill kill kill
>>108313544sauce
What if we break HR with this infograph?
>>108313896Your HR is opposed to AI art?
Got fired this evening for "not having Reliable Transportation". I arrived on time today just like every other day since I started. I literally bought an Emmo Zone II MAX on Klarna just for this job in case I can't bus or walk it and live only 5km away from work anyway.
>>108314195how the fuck are u so poor u dont even have a car lmao
>>108311923Just quit bro.Open up a bakery or something. Be poor for a bit. It'll be great.
I would never hire anyone who doesn't own an F-150 Denali.
>>108313896wtf I hate AI now.
>>108314195idk anon sounds like grounds for litigation, I hope you at least got a severance package and are getting unemployment
>>108314195do euromutts really??
>>108314195>EmmoA FUCKING LEAF
>>108314195>I literally bought an Emmo Zone II MAX on KlarnaWhy? Are you so poor you can't just buy it with options?
>>108309221Every post on linkedin is like this from people with similar sounding names. It's just some AI picture with an Ai post.
oh i just gave claude a tough onewith any luck i'll bust our company's budget and get fired
>>108314407no worries, just an hour of waiting and a gorillion tokens until it shits out code that doesn't compile.
>>108314452I asked it to improve our build process. It burned 10k tokens over 10 minutes and came back with: can't be done
>>108312183Reminder that management does not and will never understand cybersecurity
>>108314476I have to wonder where it would have even gotten the information it required to model the thinking pattern needed to infer a conclusionIt's not like every dev is typing up the logic behind their build structure
>>108314574It actually ran the CLI "help" commands for some of our build tools to see if we were missing anything. It turns out our project structure is just too retarded
>>108313801You can look at the employee group photos of any random tech company, and you won't find a single white person in it.
>>108314714personally im the second blackest person in my office. the 1st blackest is only so figuratively and is just non-indian non-mooslim brown
>>108314714Were the layoffs used to get rid of whites?
>>108311561PleasE be true!72 virgins await you in the afterlife for your service, friend.
>>108313166You might be in the wrong industry. First of all, AI cannot do the work of jr devs. Second of all, even if AI could do the work of jr devs you should insist on hiring jr devs anyways. AI cannot cover you when you are sick. AI cannot help you skip meetings that you don't feel like attending. AI does not give you the good feeling of seeing an entry-level advance and apply the skills that you taught him. You are a taker and a loser sir. Either pay what you owe to the man who taught you forward to the next boy or embrace that you are a worthless slug. If you can't teach skills, then you don't know sklls. simple as that m8.
>>108314727nigger
>>108315030>>108311706>>108311598It tru, and I ain't fat
>>108316278>>108316278>>108316278>>108316278newnewnew
>>108316279this thread hasn't even hit the bump limitand your thread sucks btw, are you sure you're employed?
>>108313127A lot. Do some basic research about the relationship between them to learn something valuable
>>108311948Yeah the black people who make it to tech aren't gonna act like hoodrat faggots. They're basically white personality wise. So they'll have the same pitfalls of complacency as white Americans in tech.
>>108309718the haredim elected the jewish version of trump and are actively trying to drag the country into irrelevance by trying to eliminate any semblance of secular education and society, which is the only reason the country became so wealthythey dont even serve in the idf but they are more than happy to order the idf to start new wars to unlock new lands to settle/colonize
h-hello?
>>108318621is there anybody in there?
>>108319693>>108318621DEATH GRIPS IS ONLINE
>>108318621>>108319693It's Saturday.
