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Illinois joins the fun
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>>108326838
Concerning. The same legislation being introduced in multiple states, even different countries at the same time. if I didn't know any better I'd call this a conspiracy theory.
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>>108326853
Quit with the antisemitic remarks.
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>>108326838
Hey why are mostly Blue States doing this?
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>>108326955
screw (((them)))
being jewish may not automatically make you a conspiring piece of shit, it's just that most conspiring piece of shits are jewish or related to israel/mossad/judaism
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>>108326853
>conspiracy theory
No, somebody is running a game here. This happens a lot in politics.
>I'm a gun owner
>we regularly see the same fucking bill
>copy/pasta introduced in multiple states within a few days of each other
>this usually doesn't just happen out of the blue
>it's usually a concerted national effort
>in the anti-gun case, it's usually Bloomberg running something
I suspect something similar is happening here with age verification, but who?
My guess is an unholy 4-way of
- .gov - love to wipe anonymity
- big advertising - love to sell you stuff
- big platforms (google, meta, etc) - love to collect your info and sell it to advertisers (and maybe .gov)
- 1st part platforms (discord, etc) - love to shield themselves from any lawsuits ("hey, he lied about his age, violated ToS, bad actor, not my fault")
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>>108326853
It's not a conspiracy. The origin of all this is in a template bill that's being pushed by Meta because they're worried about huge potential fines. So if you want to know the particular Jew behind all this, it's Cuckerberg.
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1rmhxk1/i_pulled_the_actual_bill_text_from_5_state_age/
>muh reddit
Don't care, faggot.
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>>108326966
its building the foundation for monitoring, identification for wrong thinkers. the goal with this is tying it into web site identification. you can never truly be anonymous.
its the boiling the frog slowly approach. start with "protecting the children" and go from there.
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>>108326990
This has to be a democrat measure because Red States are mostly unaffected, they only cared about the porn sites. Which is shitty, don't get me wrong, but it's not "OPEN YOUR MOUTH AND SCREAM MCDONALDS TO UNLOCK YOUR PHONE" shitty like this is.
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>>108326838
>"populist" rightoids
>"liberal" dems
lol
lmao
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>>108326966
The thousands of Microsoft employees working in Silicon Bayou, Alabama cannot be bribed
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>>108326994
Meta is doing it because they're facing a 50B fine for violating COPPA. So if they get everyone on board with age verification, they can say "WE CAN'T BE VIOLATING COPPA, YOU'RE REQUIRED TO VERIFY YOUR AGE BY LAW!"

Literally and factually what they are doing is patently illegal. No one will call them out on it because only Blue States are doing it and they suck Zuckerberg dick like Trump sucks Israeli dick
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From what I can tell all these bills just want the OS to ask for your age at installation time. Kids who are saavy with computers are still going to fudge it and lie. This will only affect normies, so I'm cool with it.
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>>108327018
Anon this affects every operating system. Like your CAR, your PHONE, your refrigerator, your toaster, your coffee maker.
How are you supposed to age verify something like your HVAC control panel that's literally just a screen with next to no input? The law says it has to. That's an operating system, too
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I'm reading the text of this bill,

https://www.ilga.gov/Legislation/BillStatus/FullText?GAID=18&DocNum=3977&DocTypeID=SB&LegId=167475&SessionID=114

In one part, it talks about not offering minors an "addictive feed" but... that's fine if you're an adult? Why not just fucking ban forever scroll for everyone. If it's not good for kids, it's not good for anyone else either. You don't need age checks for that, just ban it.

In another part, they actually want to make it a law that parents have to approve any communication with the child... which is just insane.
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>>108327012
Microsoft employees work out of Delhi, not Silicon Valley.
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>>108327034
>a-are those video recommendations? on MY screen? government-sama, save me...
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>>108327034
> but... that's fine if you're an adult? Why not just fucking ban forever scroll for everyone. If it's not good for kids, it's not good for anyone else either. You don't need age checks for that, just ban it.
Because Zuckerberg made this bill and forever scrolling is how his social media website works, too. He's not going to legislate himself. He'll force the literal device to ID every goylet before he does that.


If he wasn't facing a fine for COPPA Violations, he wouldn't give a shit
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>>108327034
So many high school boys aren't going to get laid because of this
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>>108326838
Just add Illinois to the ban list. Simple as.
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>>108326838
OFFLINE LAN

NOW

DO IT
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>>108327034
>it a law that parents have to approve any communication with the child
Actually fair and good we don't need another generation useless
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>>108327005
making children a protected class was a mistake
the ancient romans treated children as the property of their parents. this was better for a number of reasons.
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>>108326955
>>108326973
don't you faggots say porn is a jewish psyop or whatever? now these states are trying to protect children from that stuff and you also call it a jewish psyop?
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>>108327027
my fridge, my toaster, and my coffee maker do not have an operating system. neither does my shitty mechanical thermostat from the 80s.
because of the price of computer components, i am confident in the future there will still be fridges, toasters etc. that aren't digital.
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>>108327018
I read the bill for my state, and at the moment, it's just age *attestation*, not age verification.

Either they've worded the bill vaguely to set it up to not cover all the bases they want so it fails and they have an in to introduce real-ID verification at the OS level, or they'll eventually coerce all services and programs to make use of the age environment variable.
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>>108327106
they run an RTOS or embedded OS generally. from what i can tell this bill only applies to windows mac linux android ios etc
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>>108326838
Who is funding this shit?
Regular reminder that only this pressure group is pushing back:
http://netchoice.org/
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>>108327122
all the things i mentioned are mechanical.
the fridge probably does have a computer component, but no screen or wifi or crazy shit like that.
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>>108327101
No anon, there's nothing in this bill about pornography at all.

https://www.ilga.gov/Legislation/BillStatus/FullText?GAID=18&DocNum=3977&DocTypeID=SB&LegId=167475&SessionID=114

ctrl-F porn, 0 results.

The target of this bill primarily appears to be social media websites and chat applications.

"Covered platform" means a public or semi-public website,
online service, online application, or mobile application
that:
(1) is used by a covered minor in this State;
(2) allows users to construct a public or semi-public
profile for the purposes of using the website, service or
application;
(3) allows users to create or post content that is
viewable by other users, including, but not limited to, on
message boards, in chat rooms, or through a landing page
or main feed that presents the user with content generated
by other users; and
(4) allows users to privately message each other as a
part of the provision of the website, service, or
application.
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>>108326838
Based, finally the kids will be safe
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>>108327121
from what i can tell they just want there to be a little parameter in the kernel that applications can ping to get someone's age, and they rely on the user at installation to set the parameter. doesn't sound that threatening desu
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>>108326838
I absolutely love stuff like this; the harder they push, the quicker we can get to the guillotines and start fresh.
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>>108327155
Essentially, what this bill will accomplish is to make any freetard who runs a system with no age checks an outcast from all social media. Because if you don't age check, the website will just block you. Oh BTW, I hope you didn't like github, because that's apparently a covered platform here.
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>>108327182
you are dreaming if you think there will be a revolution over this trash
white collar losing their jobs and comfy pensions though... maybe.
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>>108327176
As I and many others have pointed out, there's a genuine concern for this to be the first step towards real-ID verification. No matter how absurd that sounds, it's already in the real of possibility, considering how absurd age attestation is, yet it's now an actual bill. The real concern is when that shit starts getting implemented via hardware.
>>108327182
Anon... these last 20 years have proven that Burgers are limp-wristed faggots that are all bark and no bite. I don't mean that as a challenge for violence, I mean it with respect to protests against getting fucked in the ass by government overreach. If it were otherwise, we wouldn't have the IME inside every computer. Face it, you got played.

This shit hasn't even been mentioned in the mainstream news. How are normalfags supposed to protest against something they aren't even aware of?
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>>108327084
this is all your fault. you keep treating the govrenment as if its your friend and wants to help you bring your desire utopia. you fucking retard.
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>>108327224
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/slippery-slope
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>>108326838
>linux
>age verification
just delid any graphical installers, problem solved
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>>108327247
The slippery slope is real, anon.
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>>108327196
>>108327224
There's a limit, we just haven't reached it yet and every authoritarian step is one step closer to the end. I really hope I'm still alive when we finally get there, I want to see the looks on their faces when it all comes crumbling down.
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I really think it's time for me to renounce citizenship and join Japan.
Each generation of kids in the US are getting worse and worse because this "protect the children" mentality.
American kids can't even walk themselves to school.
An American parent would be arrested if they let them.
Japanese children are polite, well behaved...
American kids scream, cry, show no respect for elders.
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>>108327278
You mean totalitarian. People will just adapt and go about their lives, nobody will do anything.
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>>108327323
japan is cracking down on immigration. they have seen what happens when you important unlimited browns.
god bless them and give them the strength to stay the course as the world begins to collapse.
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YOU WILL VERIFY YOUR AGE
then
YOU WILL PROVIDE YOUR ID
then
YOU WILL BE TRACKED IN EVERYTHING YOU DO
then
YOU WILL BE ARRESTED FOR YOUR POSTS
I VOTED FOR THIS!
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>>108327182
Most people (including myself) see this as either an inevitability or a good thing.
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>>108327336
all the normalcattle want to do is BBQ and watch Netflix, they literally don't care about anything else.
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jews ruin everything
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>>108327344
Afaik the government has only said this and changed nothing.
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>>108327224
>>108327278
Pajeet shouldn't have sent so many spam calls. Now the entirety of India is going to be put in electronic quarantine.
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>>108327358
But how will Sangdeep and pajeet spam their Twitter feed with gross demoralizing content?
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>>108327323
Japanese society is completely separated from immigrants for the most part. Most immigrants are kept in their respective ghettos like they have been for a thousand years.
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>>108327224
unfortunately this anon is correct.
why these bills are faggot tier:
there is no one to verify with 100% accuracy the age of a user who operates a computer.
just as I can let an R rated movie play on the television.
this bill is absolutely an attempt to boot strap a host of half-assed shitty surveillance that will ultimately be used to shit everything up.
in other words: get your filthy territorial bullshit out of my perfect shiny silicon. thanks.
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>>108327409
>there is no one to verify with 100% accuracy the age of a user who operates a computer.
they know this, they are counting on it. the roll this out NOW to boil the frog, then in a year or two they'll come out with that they really want, which is is ID verification or face scans using the "we tried the age verification" and it wasn't enough to protect the children so we have to tighten it up wiith actual IDs
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> mandatory voter ID: no
> mandatory OS user ID: yes

comrades.. comrades!
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this shit will be very easy to spoof with custom user agents
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it doesn't even say that it requires identification or anything, just that part of the account creation process asks for the users age. it's like a mandatory username field.
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>>108326853
If they’re going to introduce all this legalized spyware can they at least unban Huawei products?
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>>108327466
government ID verification is the next step
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>>108326838
Who is behind this? This has to be a concerted effort. There is no way all of these different places come up with the exact same idea at the same time.

It's time to unmask them. They want you to have no privacy, so they shouldn't deserve privacy either. What's good for the goose and all.
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>>108326994
Quite amazing that a handful of billionaires can control the law like this. If I ever get an incurable chronic illness I will definitely make my death worth something on one of these lizard aliens.
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>>108327491
None of this would be happening if you guys weren’t so fixated on the Epstein files. Just let them do what they want with your children anonymously and you get to do what you want with internet anonymously
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>>108327006
>they only cared about the porn sites
Doesn't matter. It _always_ starts this way.
>this leg session: look what we did
>next election cycle
>bad thing happens
>"we got a good start with The Keep Bad Things Illegal bill, which I helped write, but we can do better, which is why I've introduced the Make Things More Awesomer Act"
Look at seat belt laws.
>start as "warning only, and just for driver"
>and it's a secondary offense, they can't pull you over for no seat belt
>changes to "ticket for driver, but not passengers"
>changes to "primary offense for driver, but not passengers"
>changes to "ticket if passenger not wearing seat belt"
>changes to "primary offense if anybody in car not wearing seat belt"
>changes to "we're running emphasis patrols for just seat belts"
>changes to "we're deploying cameras to auto-write tickets for no seat belt"
It ALWAYS starts small.
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>>108327278
>Two more weeks
>>108327323
>Time to jump ship and turn an actual first-world country into a shithole, except not really, since I'm one of the good ones
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>>108327491
Stop asking antisemitic questions.
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>>108327034
>why not just fucking ban forever scroll
Same reason why they didn't implement "turn off the television or radio after X number of hours"
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>>108326966
There’s too many people catfishing as underage, so the ring of ‘philes running the government need to target them more directly to feed the ring clients and themselves.
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>>108327575
>Time to jump ship and turn an actual first-world country into a shithole, except not really, since I'm one of the good ones
I already have a Jap house and Jap wife. I can just file one form and take my income tax elsewhere.
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>>108326966
>Hey why are mostly Blue States doing this?
The blue states are only just catching up anon.
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>>108327323
>he doesn't think they'll implement it in japan next
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>>108327176
this sounds retarded, how can a website call some syscall, rpc call, read environment variables? Aren't browsers fucking sandboxed? in my opinion browser would have something like that retarded feature to set default browser on windows nowadays. In firefox you would have a setting to set the thing, which would open settings panel, where you need to accept setting the data in the browser settings. It would be OS that sets the data, not the browser. Browser can't just call some kind of system api by itself, they would need to make a hole in the sandbox for that which would surely be exploited in ways not predicted. It's obvious it would be an attack vector. Allowing direct read from the browser is plainly retarded.
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>>108327774
They won't even implement it in Illinois to be perfectly frank. This law has already been struck down by a judge in Virginia.

https://lawreview.syr.edu/court-hits-pause-on-virginias-social-media-restrictions-for-minors/amp/

Kids have rights too. Even 2A rights. They damn sure can decide who they want to talk to online without a parent jumping in the way of it.
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>>108327818
I wish to have this much optimism.
My biggest problem is that SCOTUS right now is ran by the patently insane and three of them may as well be installed as permanent bidets inside of Mossad's offices.
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>>108327106
>shitty
>from the 80s
regardless of that tstat's condition or lack thereof, the fact that it works still is a testament.
digis WILL fail eventually, a mechy tstat only needs the bimetal spring replaced every half a person's life to stay mostly accurate
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>>108326966
commie states pushing it worldwide
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You need to implement digital ids first before you can verify someones age on the device.
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>>108327106
>my fridge, my toaster, and my coffee maker do not have an operating system.
8-bit processors in the 70s that had no user interface had an operating system, so yes they might faggot.
https://www.roug.org/retrocomputing/os/os9

If you are not manually flipping switching on your device to change individual bits and bytes in RAM, then you have an operating system on your device by every definition of "Operating System". The only CS definition is"software that controls the execution of computer programs and may provide various services." having users, logins, an internet connection or even an interface is entirely optional.

That's why everyone is calling these lawmakers absolute cretins.

>>108327154
>all the things i mentioned are mechanical.
Even the mechanical ones made past the 80s will have an OS in an 8-bit controller someplace.

>>108327122
> from what i can tell
The ones in California and Colorado didn't. There is no reason to expect these morons to have implemented exceptions for embedded devices either
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>>108328271
The US Government has absolutely fucked EVERYTHING up with ID verification, and to be fair: they aren't the only ones.

The correct way to do this, The traditional Democrat way, would be to implement an office of ID verification, and have it where a company can only verify that a person is real and is the age they say they are from a hash they give a government server. If the hash checks out, then it returns an "OK" and nothing more. No further information gets out to any third party website and nobody even knows who that person is, since a salted hash would be different every time. So cross-reference attacks would be kept to a minimum.

Instead they're doing the typical retard government way and saying "I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS WORKS, IT'S ON YOU TO DO IT" so they contract iwth people like Persona who have 3 leaks a year and treat their data like shit and sell every piece of metadata to give scam agencies more biometric information than what Doctors offices are allowed to keep. Because we're not just ran by criminals, but _incredibly stupid_ criminals. Remember when all the dystopic fiction had this wild idea that the elite would be super competent and they would have ten steps ahead of all the cattle who would want to escape their pen?

Instead the Elite are even dumber than your average plumber and exist in a bubble of yes-men, ordaining the impossible from on-high while Rome burns.
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>>108328449
>Surely this is being pushed for legitimate reasons
Fucking die in a fire you absolute fool
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The OP is a Pinoy who spams Lunduke (Jew) shill posts because it thinks the Jew will help it get residency in America and Jews beg for money as they want gentiles to give them more than over 100 billion dollars every month.

Trannies love Jews, hence why none of these shill posts ever get deleted and why /pol/ was made.

https://archive.is/yWZdz
https://archive.is/VskAQ
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106886278/#106886278
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106894838/#106896329
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106895743/#106896002
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106895057/#106895909
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106895743/#106896165
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106895991/#106896050
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106893718/#106895855
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106896047/#106896089
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106895335/#106896013
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106886280/#106896356
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106894838/#106896329
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106890554/#106895985
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106895335/#106896013
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106895545/#106895937
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Reminder Lunduke is a Jewish Zio/Israhelli who:

- lives in America.

- wants you to think he likes free software.

- only attacks free software.

- calls you a child rapist and child murderer for believing the age of consent shouldn't be 25 or higher and for supporting free software (note Jewish Zios rape and kill non-submissive gentile children for sports).

- tried to ruin Stallman's life a decade before everyone else tried it because he couldn't counter anything Stallman said (note Lunduke claims to be a victim of cancel culture).

- wants gentiles banned off the internet for not identifying themselves with electronic identification.

- calls you a Nazi if you're secular (note Jews push secularism the most).

- gets easily irritated when you say Jews are Nazis (they are).

- denies Google/Microsoft are "big tech".

- denies getting paid by Google/Microsoft each time you click on his video/blog.

- accused a random chat room on Discord of being Arch's official chat room.

- wants every gentile banned on the internet unless they can be identified/doxxed (he even told 4cuck that it'll be a positive thing https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/108207225/#108209901).
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>>108328493
I never said it was.
If they had legitimate reasons they would do it the legitimate way. They know they're full of shit and this is for tracking/exonerating Meta from its fines. That's why they do it the worst possible way.
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>>108326966
Red states have been encroaching on the website end.

https://www.freespeechcoalition.com/faq
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>>108328553
They're doing it in the best possible way. Your problem is you think this government is here for your benefit.
Best policy ever: the drug war. Only complete morons call it a failed policy
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Time to download Linux for future use lads!
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>>108328141
>>108326838
The Pinoy made two threads for the same Jew tweet.

It has another two threads up for the same Jew tweet and three more threads up for three different Jew tweets.

Also in three of those threads the Pinoy is saying the Jew isn't a Jew.
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Microsoft is taking yet another run at thin client computing. Windows 365 is currently only available to government and corporate customers but more hardware manufacturers like Asus and Dell are rolling out compatible client machines. Having everything centrally administered is their wet dream.
Keeping consumer hardware prices high will help them roll out thin clients to the general public. Your identity will be confirmed before you can use a Windows 365 device with your individual account. Your age will be part of this but more importantly, all activity in Windows 365 will be tracked and attributed to you. Everything will be in large data centers, recorded forever.
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>>108328578
none of those red states mandated the os itself. they targeted porn sites and wanted porn sites to check.

not force operating systems and software to build age verify shit into it. thats absolutely worse than making porn sites check an id.

in real life you have to show id to buy a porn magazine at checkout or entering an adult only store. what blue states are doing is making it you need to verify someones age to walk into ANY store from the start. rather than checking id at checkout if you see them trying to buy a nudie magazine or see someone that looks underage walking into a sex store.
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>>108327005
I don't know how think of the children even works anywhere when everybody knows that all politicians are child rapists.
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>>108327818
based judge, finally someone standing up for children
politicians would never on their own since kids dont vote

children are the least emancipated people in society right now and boomers LOVE taking away more and more of their freedoms
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>>108326838
Illinois is just nigger California
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>>108327101
It's Jewish infighting. Civil holocausting.
Once it's all said and done, historians will have a tough time deciding which pile of shoes invalidates which country's sovereignty
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>>108326955
i cannot get the word 'antisemitic' serious anymore
it sounds like equivalent to 'i am butthurt' nowadays to me desu
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>>108326838
>EllMAN
Every single time
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>>108326853
Democrats similarly compromised by Israel, it's over.
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>>108326994
Billionairs investing a lot into age verification services is another big red flag.
It's literally forcing us into a captive market.
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>>108328697
interesting...
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>>108326973
>WAIT GOYIM I'M A GOOD JEW AND NOT LIKE THE OTHER JEWS
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>>108326838
Don't care, never giving em my ID

>>108326966
Mass surveillance and control. Red states use porn as a beard while blue states use 'hate speech' and 'terror'.
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When age verification is added to goydows because of the cali shit it won't matter what state you're in. Everyone in the US will get it via an 'update'. Best for windows users to find ways to block updates while they still can.



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