>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/Provide specific use cases.State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC>CASEmATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 217, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAMEDual Chamber: Y60/70, Vision (Compact), Antec C8AVOID: NXZT, 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, Corsair 6500>CPUBudget: 9600X, 7600X, 7500FGaming: AMD X3DWorkstation: 9950X, 9900XAVOID Shittel>COOLERAIO: Best Value: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Premium: Lian Li GA II Lite, LCD: TRYX PanoramaDouble towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2>MOTHERBOARDAvoid ASRock AM5 boards, CPU degradation issues still reported.>RAMGaming: DDR5 2x16GB 6000CL30Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB>SSD (OS drive)Budget: NM790Mid range: SN7100Premium: SN850XFlagship: SN8100>GPU1080p: RX 9060 XT 16GB, Poorfag Esports Gaming: Used GPU between $100-$2501440p: RX 9070 XT, RX 9070, Budget: RX 9060 XT 16GB4K: RX 9070 XTWorkstation: Radeon AI PRO R9700, CUDA Mandatory: Used RTX 4090 or RTX 3090 tiAVOID RTX 50 Series: False advertising "5070=4090 performance!!", unsafe power connector, broken drivers, overpriced compared to RDNA 4 in most regions, threatening reviewers, manipulating and faking reviews, evil anti-consumer company etc.ALWAYS pair AMD GPUs with AMD CPUs for SAM https://imgur.com/a/6XSNJ9b>PSUhttps://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/>MONITORhttps://www.rtings.com/monitor>CASE FANSMeta: Case with good stock PWM fansMid range: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)High end: Noctua NF-A12x25, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2Prev: >>108321120
>Bought pic related meme.>Thought I could connect hard drives externally.>Looked for Esata to Sata...The cables cost half as much as 1tb drive.Damn it !>as for the power, it's molex male>Solved with y connector having a molex male, molex female and sata female.
>he's still on AM4
>>108327658Nicotranny OP with disinformationIgnore
Where can I find pic related for less than 20$ (including shipping)
how did they manage just make them worse with each literation?anyway, you don't need more
>>108327893Very few of these brands design their own case fans.They test a variety ODM product samples and pick a decently performing one.https://www.igorslab.de/en/thermalright-tl-b12-extreme-in-test-coming-fan-turbine-with-much-throughput-and-a-fine-side-kick/
Is it a good idea to get a used NVMe SSD? I imagine it's not easy to fake SMART data right?
>>108327851am4 with 5090
>>108328024you have no idea what are you talking about.Silverstone changed the bearing to dual ball which made them loud as fuck even at low RPM, only AP181 have sleeve bearing.
>>108328026Someone in /pcbg/ got scammed recently, the used SSD seller didn't fake any data.He was getting terrible SSD benchmarks.
>>108328047I should be able to easily test that and my country allows me to return it no questions asked, my main concern is with the TBW.
>>108328063If the price is too good, prepare for the worst.
>>108328042You are the ignorant shithead who's shilling a worthless fan.https://www.hwcooling.net/en/we-cut-the-grille-out-of-the-air-penetrator-fan-better-than-the-original/8/Keep falling for memes like the fool you are.
>>108328084are you even listening to me nigger? what is the point of this conversation?never talk to me again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHGmk4QChD4
>>108328091Educated white people like (I) could tell that fan grille is an airflow obstruction, and that HWCooling article proves it.You do need more than that trash.Maybe it's good enough for white trash like you who's been nigger jigging a 3060 for the past few weeks for attention.
>>108328096>Not RGB miniLEDPass.
BIOS version out of the box is 6 and latest for my board is version 10how imperative is it that I update bios in this situation?
>>108328246just dl the windows app and have it install it for uno point not to
>still replies with his nonsenseis this the same nigger who initiates OP wars? looks like it
I'm looking for a monitor, I have already 2 1080p monitors, not sure if I want to replace one of keep both to have 3. I have a RX6800XT, I'm not sure it would be good idea to get a 4K screen. I don't really care about refreshment rates 100Hz would be enough for my use cases, being some office work, a bit of gaming. My laptop has an OLED screen, I really like it but being a europoor NEET I sadly can't buy a thousand eurodollars OLED display, so if you have recommandation for the above, but with the best possible contrast short of OLED, I'm all ears. The budget is about 400€.
>>108328293If you don't want people to criticize your piece of shit fans, don't brag about them.SilverStone were literally better off commissioning one from an ODM instead of designing that hot shit of a case fan.
>>108328303idk man maybe I just don't have it set up right, but I recently did get a 4k oled with my old 1440p monitor, and if you're on Windows at least, having two different resolutions is fucking awful. I'd keep them all the same were I you.
>>108328313>having two different resolutions is fucking awful. I'd keep them all the same were I you.I have same setup as you and I dont see anything noteworthy about it or what Id gain if they were same res
>>108327658Even those yellow connectors that are supposed to show you clearly if it's properly connected burnt? Oof.
>>108328303If you play new games, you're better off stopping at 1440p with that RX 6800 XT.>The budget is about 400€.An affordable 4K IPS would be the Gigabyte M27UP or the MSI noted in this review.https://forum.pcmonitors.info/topic/gigabyte-m27up-review-and-some-thoughts-on-mpg-274urf-qd/
hope you don't have any lgbt lights in your systemhttps://youtu.be/QKPvYbCSWT8?t=480
>>108328319does windows not constantly resize all your apps, and move them from monitor to monitor as it feels like? Also it suddenly takes forever to boot up, only addition is a 4k monitor where I had 2 1440p before.it's not like my computer is shit or anything. >5800x3d>4070TI>32gb of ramshouldn't have these issues
>>108328313I'm using linux, I never had a problem at work when I used a 1080p and 1440p screen. >>108328339>If you play new games, you're better off stopping at 1440p with that RX 6800 XT.Nah, I don't play AAA in general, JPRGs or Tacticals, some emulation and that's about it. That's why I'm honestly considering getting the type of office monitor for art people with nice colors and all.This is above my price range (about 560€) but I could get that next month : https://rog.asus.com/us/monitors/27-to-31-5-inches/rog-strix-oled-xg27aqdmg/>Gigabyte M27UPIt's cheap but it has 1000:1 contrast ratio > MPG 274URF QDIt' goes for about 500€, at that point going the the ROG OLED monitor doesn't seem that bad. I just hope it's not as dog shit as it used to be.
So the 9070xt to my 5900x and the 5070ti to my 9800x3d, correct?
>>108328411yeah its a good idea to have tailos on 2nd computer and use windows on the gaming pc
>>108328361>4070TI>shouldn't have these issues>nvidia gpu>monitor issues kek. classic. my work laptop and desktop both have issues with tripple monitors (both at 1080p and 1440p) (disconnecting and not waking up mostly). the notebook has a 3060 and the desktop has a 4060. my old notebook had a t500 and my old desktop had a 1650. i had zero issues before with tripple monitors. my brother has a 3060 12gb in his desktop pc with only two monitors and he has zero issues. when i had my 4070 i also had zero issues but that was with also only two monitors. i am now running a 9070xt. also no issues. one of my coworkers also has a new notebook with a 3060 and he also has issues with tripple monitors since he switched. didn't have any before. sounds like it is a new issue.https://youtu.be/XK6wHFZsaAI?t=667
>>108328414>sounds like it is a new issue.I kinda feel like it's a windows issue. but yeah I had no issues with 2 1440p monitors on this computer
>>108328421i can't say the same really. i switched back to my old notebook because i wanted to know and updated everything. drivers, windows (ran windows 11 since it came out) and anything that lenovo wanted. used it for a few days and i had zero issues. problem is that it is now quiet old and the usb ports don't work and the battery is giving up as well.
>>108328413>tailos on 2nd computerYou can install tails? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of it?
>>108328446well you wouldnt want to rely on a usb stick as your daily driver
>>108328451this.
>>108328451Nor would I want tails to be either.
>>108328464you have the 5070 ti windows pc also
>>108328411why two computer?
>>108328474That i will, but it will be more or less just for gaming. I can just run qubes if I want to go schizo tier with linux.>>108328476No reason to get rid of a perfectly usable PC. Also have a backup in case either shits the bed.
>>108328486might as well use it for something you can't do on your new computer.
>>108328494Thinking I'll just daily drive Linux on it and have Windows on the new one and as the main gaming PC even though this one can game just fine as well.
I boughted CORSAIR - RMX Series RM1000x Cybenetics Gold Fully Modular ATX Power Supply - Black...
>>108328530You make it sound like it's a bad thing.
hey my PC is in a giant case and I want to put it in a smaller one that will fit on my desk horizontally. I was thinking about getting a HTPC case but they're kinda expensive. Would building in a server case be a viable alternative? Ideally one with lots of 3.5 drive bays because my current case only has 2.
>>108328631why on earth would anyone want a desktop on on their desk
>>108328713?what year did you come from, time traveller?
>>108328716the desk provides space for things to put on it, things you interact withyou cant interact with a box, its just a waste of spacefunctional people even go and buy monitor arms to get more desk space instead of redundant monitor stand
>>108328726you're approaching this from an absolute utility perspective. have you considered the notion that there are a lot of people out there who don't?
>>108328713I know what you're saying but I can't just put my current desktop sideways because my discs would fall out of the drive tray if I tried to put them in. Right now I have my desktop in my desk's bottom cabinet. Also like I said I want a case with lots of HDD slots so I can rip movies to them.
six blown out arseholes and six pristine holes
>>108328741Why not have a hdd connector that you plug in via usb and when your hdd is full just store them in a drawer
>>108328713dust
>>108328750I was thinking with 6-8 8tb drives I could setup raid storage so I could have some redundancy but I'm not really sure if that's how it works or if I need another device to control the array or whatever.
>>108328762does redundancy matteryou just want some media files that are readily available from the internetif a file corrupts you just re-dl it
>>108328853It does matter
>>108328247>trusting microslop with your biosishygddt
What the fuck are you all doing lmao. You've completely missed the bus on buying parts, just give up. Why you didn't do it last year is beyond me lol. Do something better with your time
Would it make sense to replace the stock fans on my thermalright phantom spirit? The stock fans have no rubber corner pads and Arctic P12 pro fans are cheap as shit and have those built in and seem to be better overall. There's some resonance and I already have vibration dampeners on all my case fans so that might be causing it
>>108329059it should be fine. i bought the assassin x last month and i found the fan to be a bit disappointing so what you're really paying for is the tower cooler
>>108329077Turns out it does have those anti vibration things in the corners after all and some guy on youtube made a test with arctic p12's and noctuas fancy 120mm fans and they performed worse than the stock fans. Maybe thermalright achieved the results they did because they made the fans to fit that cooler. Maybe your issue is different since you have a single tower cooler
>>108329143that is surprising. there is really nothing special about this fan but then again my model is at the lower end for a 65W cpu
>>108329162https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88MRhkXJC0A
i will never be able to afford a 5090...
>>108327658Gaymer PCs used to be cheap sirs.
>>108329228Pcbg is soo dead, it's making pre built looks good
>>108325697>Are we going to get to the point where dual PSUs are normal in builds with a PSU dedicated for the GPU only*haf 932 with dual 750w for 3090 intensifies*
Now that "Noctua Edition" parts are a thing. I look forward to other companies pulling the same gimmick.
>>108329348im honestly confused how companies like noctua continue to exist when they cant make cost competitive products for like a 5 years now
>>108329357Plastic fans aren't very expensive to make and they have sufficient niche appeal to justify it. It probably costs Noctua a dollar or two to make a fan and a single fab cycle probably lasts them most of the year.
1440p looks so good why did you tell me it was a meme resolution
>>108329429Depends on your screen size. For anything up to 27" 1440p is perfectly fine
>>108329429I've only ever seen people say 1440p is odd on 4chanlike the voices in their heads told them that, and no they dont have images illustrating a problem thats in their heads
>>108329441that's just what happens hereactually, i've found that despite being on /g/ a lot of people straight up make shit up without any sort of evidence, and this is supposed to be the board where we have some sort of STEM basis behind everything
>see some SW4's harvested from a silent loop 360 for 35 bucks>figure eh im sleepy ill get them next morning, I need to think over spending money on fans anyway>its goneFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
>>108329429It's the best for high refresh ratesIf you want 4k, just use DLDSR on your 1440p screen
1440p only got better/more relevant with the ultra high hz screens, nvidia multi frame gen, pulsarbut at the same time the 5070 power levels and dlss transformer model also mean 4k is perfectly viable since you run games at 1080p base res, at the same time we have 4k qd oled displays so theres little compromise going on with that route
>>108329508a basic 27 inch 1440p 144+++ Hz IPS is the sweet spot because it costs $150-250 and looks "good enough"if I got a 4K monitor I'd be concerned with how long my RTX 5070 can stay relevant, as even today in demanding games I need to use DLSS Balanced + 2x FG to hit 120+ FPS
>>1083294294k looks way better and it isn't as easy to push for high refresh gaming like 1080p. its just an awkward middle child jack of all trades master of none
I've found that going from IPS to OLED was infinitely more stunning than going form 1440p to 4kI'm on 5k2k now anyway
>first custom loop build>hardtubes>do a leak test>nearly every fitting leaks a drop of precum in the first hour>tighten fittings up with what feels enough force to obliterate the threading>fast forward 2 hours>another drop in two fittings>fasten these fuckers up even more even though I think I did nothing because nothing turned whatsoever>fast forward 4 hours>no drops, everything dryWhat the fuck is going on
>>108329572well yeah, ips fucking sucksgoing to VA from ips is more impactful than going to 4k
>>108327658I fear for my 5090 daily.
>>108329580>VAThat panel has smearing and image trails even on the desktop
>>108329578
Did you guys use a UPS?I'm thinking of buying one but my only use case is not being anxious while doing BIOS updates lol
>>108329596you do bios updates like couple times per mobos lifetime
>>10832959615 bux bios flasher is going to unbrick my bios just fine. no need for an ups.
Should I switch from my Thermalright air cooler to a liquid AIO with a top mount? How easy is it to setup?
another reason to buy an oem system. it's so fucking over for /pcbg/ bros.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0g_YlG_Ul0
>>108329590not really noticeable on any of the current high refresh rate VAs desu
>>108329676rtings says you're capping
>>108329678What? They recommend AOC VA monitors and something like the M27T6 isn't worse than those in any way.
>>108329678one of more relevant features rtings offered was showing which va panels had good pixel response times and which didnt, now thats impossible and you rely on random youtubers with a blurbusters motion tracking camera setup posting screenshots
I'd get an OLED as a treat but I don't want to baby my monitor by hiding the task bar, disabling desktop icons, not using the browser fullscreen so the menus don't burn in, etc.IPS and MiniLED VA are just idiotproof.
>>108329225and you shouldn't buy one5070ti is all you need
>>108329733 my setup has a 2nd lcd monitor that has the static stuffI use windhawk to have taskbar only on the secondary monitor, black background and monitor shut down timer at 15min incase I forget something thereThat way the oled monitor just shows black unless I have an active app doing something there while I use the pc
>>108329603yes easy peasy
>>108329756This seems incredibly uncomfy and I wouldn't want to do it. I see that it works for you, but I just don't want to bother. I just want to have my main monitor, the one in front of me, have all my task bars, navigation menus, etc.I even refuse to use an OLED screen phone for Waze for longer than like 30 minutes, because last time I did, I had to run image retention cleanup videos for hours to get rid of the "report cops" button being imprinted on the screen.
>>108329768idk what youd find uncomfy, all the stuff is in front of you on the 2nd monitor. maybe you use it for work in a particular way but for gaming having 2 monitors where your game is on oled + all the chrome stuff on 2nd is the comfiest way to do things
>>108329780I have 2 monitors, one 27 inch for browser and any program I'm actively using, including games. Second is 21.5 inch, to the left of the main monitor, a bit higher up, rotated to face towards me, and 99% of the time hosts Discord, rarely I use it to watch a video or read a guide while playing a game or doing work on my main monitor.I don't have a gigantic desk where I can fit two 27 inch or 32 inch monitors lol refer to my diagram
>>108329800Did you post a photo of your desk at some point, I seem to recall similar setup my setup has 32" oled in mid, no random boxes on the table, and a 1440p 27" monitor on the right side and instead of a drawer its help up by a monitor arm which makes adjusting easier
>>108329748>16gb vramlawl
>>108329813post urs
>>108329832i have 12...
>>108329811Yes I have posted it before. I forgot I have my photos on the cloud so I don't need to draw shitty diagrams. The left monitor is on a plastic cabinet thing, and the PC is on the right.
>>10832983912 at once!?
>>108329643>buy from pirate company>gets robbed
https://videocardz.com/newz/radeon-users-say-amds-silence-on-fsr-4-support-for-older-gpus-has-already-done-the-damageAYYMDEAD IS FINISHED & BANKRUPTNORMIES ARE MAD
>>108329847sk, crucial and samsung are all the same.
>>10832984512 GIGS VRAM IS NOT ENOUGH ANYMOREI WANT A FUCKING 5090 SO FUCKING BAD BUT I'M POOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRR
>>108329842hope you one day manage to save up enough money to buy a larger desk and get more than 10cm of room to move your mouse
getting a 9070xt on klarnagonna be massively bottlenecked with my 3600x but that's an issue for later
>>108329861he could just remove the pc from his desk>>108329864retard
>>108329864amd is releasing new x3d cpus for am4 nex fewt months, dont worry
>>108329861I have money for a desk but thinking about moving the other furniture to make space makes me want to kill myself kek
>>108329864The future is klarna
>>108329873actually the #1 purchase then is a monitor armthen you dont need to care about the drawer positioning for your 2nd monitor
>>108329872>new x3d cpus for am4Why new ones? They won't be better than the 5800x3d...
>>108329856>12 GIGS VRAM IS NOT ENOUGH ANYMOREfor what?
>>108329893its prob a refresh of 5800x3d.but new as in a new production line since they quit making them years ago
>>108329856you can play anything on a 2080 Ti, 3080 Ti, 4070/Super or 5070 at 1440p, it's literally fine. 12GB is okay
>>108329856>I want a 5090 to play shit AAAslop!I hope you're doing ai gen
>>108329893they'll unveil zen4 on am4 for real!!!
>>108329842see, this is where you put your pc on the groundit's not even a question of aesthetics anymore, you need the space
>>108329864if you can't organise your finances to actually BUY a fucking gpu, thats not even expensive, you shouldn't buy it on credit. You're too brown to be a PCMR, go buy a used ps5 Ranjeesh.
>>108329943I could buy it outrightjust some easy credit score innit
good monitor for a really bright room? i have to giant south facing windows in my bedroom, and can't see shit on my screen during the day currentlyi know i can use blinds but i prefer to have then open as i like the bright room vibe
>>108329943nta but it really depends. on things which won't go down in value over the repayment period then instalment plans make sense. RAM (mentioned last thread) on klarna/afterpay/paypal in 4 guarantees you the item and ensures that once the repayment period is ended, you have the item at pretty much full price if you decide to sell it right awayduring normal times, i would also advise against video cards since we were supposed to get new ones every year....but remember that they're going to drastically cut down on card production and release less models, RAM is going to be completely frozen and the industry is trying to transition away from pc ownership into a cloud modelit might not be too crazy to do it right now honestly. the cards we buy today are probably going to be topspec until 2030 where the only progression is software-side and AI redrawing in DLSS/FSR
>>108329950a vr headsetsomething like a matte samsung g8 oled monitor thats facing away from the windowget decent blackout curtains
>>108329963>get decent blackout curtainslike i said i have blackout blinds but prefer to work in a bright room it helps my mood
>>108329962i suspect at least AMD and Intel-aviv will release 1 more generation of cards, probably at a 50+% markup, and Njudea might drop a refresh of their current lineup with more ram and gimmick-tech tacked-on, but that'll be it until the megacorpos remove our ability to own our own pcs.
https://github.com/GPUOpen-Drivers/AMD-Gfx-Drivers/issues/93#issuecomment-4012656074AYYMDEAD CONFIRMS POODNA2 DRIVER SUPPORT ABANDONEDGET FUCKED POODNA2 POORFAGS