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>>108328934
I would install this but it comes with these cringey preinstalled wallpapers and it pissed off so much I didn't stay

>>108328934
I almost gave it a try after the Explaining Computers video, but it turns out I enjoy GNU+MX Linux & Windows 10 more than I am curious about some government sponsored Arch flavor.

thanks but i'll keep using Arch without the bloat and meme name

>>108328934
>Mission: Real performance gains through compiler optimizations
just add some gcc flags bro
>kernel tuning
just add some kernel flags bro
>and a streamlined user experience
vague nothingburger

If this is truly their mission statement then cachy will be another passing fad in the long run of linux distros and perpetual developer fragmentation

just use arch. you don't need more

>>108328960
This is my main complaint as well. They really need to get rid of animeshit if they aim for becoming the main linux distro. Other than that my experience has been really pleasant.

I genuinely thought this shit was a meme until I tried it, I was always unimpressed by gaming performance even in base arch and when I installed CachyOS I wasn't really expecting much of a difference but holy shit the performance gains are real on my PC, all the games I tried feel just as smooth if not better even under Wayland which is something I really struggled with before. I couldn't justify switching to Linux before since the gaming performance just wasn't as good as on windows, but CachyOS has completely eliminated that problem for me and I don't see myself needing to use Windows at all anymore

I'm sure you could get the exact same result by setting your gcc flags on Gentoo to compile your software the same as the Cachy maintainers do but for the vast majority of average users who don't even know what gcc is this distro is like a magic bullet in terms of instant performance gains

>>108328983
What is mx? Are you talking about that highly astroturfed distro from couple of years ago? It was always #1 at distrowatch thanks to the bot visitors.

>>108329036
It's just another Debian based distro in a sea of Debian based distros.

>>108329036
>What is mx?
>strangely specific anecdote
Why pretend to be retarded? Are you paid per retarded post? Did you take offense at something?

>>108328960
You can use their optimized packages on arch without installing the wallpapers or sittings if you want https://wiki.cachyos.org/features/optimized_repos/

>>108328993
Why are you here then? Don't you have articles to read at Arch wiki? Happy wasting one third of your time on polishing your OS.

>>108328934
Not reading all that shit but yes, cachy is based. It's my favorite distro right now. I love Fedora and I love Debian but I'd always avoided Arch. Not anymore it seems. It's the closest I've been to "it just works".

>>108328934
>Arch wiki
You could just use Archinstall. Even if you hate meta packages like I do, it's good for a base installation and adding stuff post install is piss easy.

>>108328934
>arch but for retards
no, thanks. i'll stick to nixos.

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>>108329206
>You could just use Archinstall.
Yeah, no thanks.

>>108329229
not everything has to be head-ripping-hard, anon. Sometimes you can just relax and enjoy things.

>>108328934
I just use arch with the cachy kernel and repos. I don't like their logo

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>>108328960
I like neko version more

Yeah, CachyOS is a good distro. I say this as I'm using openSUSE TW

>>108329021
anime is mainstream now deal with it boomer

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I switched to the cachyos zen4 repository and kernel on my Arch setup and it's been working great. I find Arch to be far more stable than distros like Fedora or Debian which cause major breakage and annoying changes every major release

Hey chatgpt how do I install x on Linux I use y distro, here's a link to the GitHub explain it like I'm 5

>>108329537
or just use the aur because it has every program ever and install it without having to ask ai or keep it updated manually

>>108329555
You can do that but some people are retarded and may need a step by step that AI offers without having to read stackoverflow where they'd probably would somehow fuck up

>>108329555
>AUR update
>Won't build
>Have to look for the comments and the PKGBUILD anyways

>>108328934
>Literal WHO distro
>FOTM distro
>Gaymer / AI "aesthetics"
>Fork
Can you stop shilling jeetware? I mean if that gets people to explore Linux, whatever... fine. But if you are a grown ass man running that shit. Just use normal Distros, unless you have a specific use case like creating a console pc, running on mac mseries or ultra low end hardware:
>Debian
>Fedora
>Arch
Let me guess, you need moar?

>>108329574
what is your actual argument against cachyos beyond random buzzwords

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>>108328934
Branding and theming aside - It's just very solid and non-retarded "just werks" distros that also is not excessively outdated for the sake of some nebulous "stability" memes.
Also I love how they give all the different options and choices. I wish that they had something different than Systemd and XLibre out of the box but ehhh... it's not a big deal, imho.

>>108329584
Level of trust, supply chain attacks, custom meme kernel, just 2 gay dudes and a couple anons "working on it".

But it seems like this shit is working and a ton of new users came in.

>>108329606
How is she not falling off the couch?

>>108328934
>NOOO! Debian is stable. You need stability. I love my stability.
Literally nothing wrong with this and it's the best arguement for a distro.

>>108328934
It's arch, stop making it a new distro.

>>108329611
>Level of trust, supply chain attacks
Please go on and explain yourself, in detail.

>>108328960
Where to find this lewd femboy face masks?

>>108328960
>>108329352
sauce?

>>108329658
ai generated for cachyos

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>>108329614
Tank operator skills.

>>108328934
It's shit. Just use Arch.

>>108329662
by the devs?

>>108329635
>Please go on and explain yourself, in detail.
So lets say you are the junky and Archlinux is your crack. And normally you would go straight to archlinux and get your crack. BUT (You) get your crack via cachyos (man in the middle), they process it and do whatever the fuck they want... but you don't care, because they deliver straight to your house.

Sure you could say that Ubuntu does the same thing with Debian, but canonical is a liable company. Vale does the same with with Arch, but SteamOS (Valve) is also a liable company. I don't want to say that the CachyOS team does punch your crack, but I will say that theres always a risk and you should consume your crack with the least amount of people involved as possible. Most of the meme distros have a very small team.

>>108329679
yes, those wallpapers are included in cachy

>>108329681
What reason do I have to trust anyone in the archlinux team?
What prevents you from using arch packages on cachyOS? What is so "hardcoded" there?
I swear to god. I read this anon just a few weeks ago here complaining that "DNS settings were hardcoded". Nigga it's a fucking config file. Just go and change it. All that cachyOS provides is a repository with the same fucking packages, just built with certain optimizations. You go on and do that shit by yourself if it's such a problem. Most people will never bother with this shit.
You have manjaro induced PTSD.

>>108329707
I'm just being objective here, this isn't a personal attack against you. I just said they could do whatever the fuck they want. Enjoy your botnet .iso.
>why trust arch
We could go even further and say why trust the linux kernel, why this why that. You have to trust someone at some point. And I'm just pointing out, that you should limit the supply chain to minimize the risk. Not saying that CachyOS is doing that... chillax niggi

>>108329567
NTA but why not use -bin to install stuff?

>>108329757
Not everything is in -bin
Besides that you can also find issues with bin packages in the AUR, it's not infallible
Good practice is to read the PKGBUILD for everything but nobody fucking does that

>>108329009
Arch still isn't compiling v2-v4 packages
Arch doesn't have custom schedulers
I use arch and still use their repos, you're literally a retard if you have a modern CPU and don't

>>108329779
I do read the pkgbuilds for everything actually usually they're not even that big and I have like 1-2 pieces of software I use from the AUR now because cachy builds their own proton/wine properly.

Also if you're not going to read pkgbuilds just use the chaotic repo

>>108328934
I tried this, but I couldn't install a .deb package, and when I googled how to, it sounded like I needed to emulate an emulated software just to run it. So I switched back to Linux mint. I did this twice btw

>>108329313
Yea the logo sucks

>>108328934
CachyOS is completely fine but also I refuse to believe that anyone ever has been inconvenienced by being on Firefox ESR so that's a weird point to make in favor of it. What crucial features does current Firefox have over ESR that makes it so unusable?

I installed a month ago, so far it's been awesome. It's just the right level of handholding/preconfigured shit I wanted. I do wait a few days before updating tho, as the other anon said I could see it being small enough to be victim to a supply chain attack (or just not enough devs to detect bugs idk).

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>>108329045
>sea
>more like a sewer

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>>108329574
Fedora doesn't offer any single refinement out-of-the-box. They are literally bundling together default packages, default Gnome DE; when you click "Activities" (whatever the fuck that means) you have that disgusting drawer-like Nautilus file manager icon.

No customization whatsoever. You are left with bash shell from 1989. No fish or Zsh out-of-the-box. No snapper configuration for you. No firewall configuration. Nothing. Also they don't have an equivalent of AUR. But let me guess, I can do all of that myself. I just need to throw away my life, my productivity and my time to study Linux system administration and distro maintaining. I'm sure you can't even tell the difference between being the user of an OS and being the maintainer of it.

Also their installer doesn't let you choose the DE during installation. You need to either download the Gnome edition ISO or the KDE edition ISO. Yikes.

cachyos with linux mint wallpapers is nice.

>>108330276
>No customization whatsoever. You are left with bash shell from 1989. No fish or Zsh out-of-the-box.
Riced up shells are buggy sometimes (for instance one of Bazzite's scripts for that is broken), I don't generally like when that shit is touched too much
>No snapper configuration for you
Because it's a pain in the ass in Fedora, it literally is the worst distro for this sort of setup and my sanity left the room trying to set that shit up properly
>No firewall configuration
Hey, you may not want it the way distros like openSUSE handle it either.
>They don't have an equivalent of AUR
They do have copr and more repos like Terra
>Their installer doesn't let you choose the DE
To be fair, they don't put time into anything but GNOME and Plasma
Not saying Fedora isn't shit btw. It's crash upon crash upon crash. It does not benefit me over rolling release (Tumbleweed/Arch) stability wise.

>>108329060
Or maybe his Arch is just fine and he has plenty of time to shitpost while you defend some cringe distro for fags.
>>108329229
based
>>108329574
Minus Fedora because it's shit. But I agree with you on the rest, especially with your crack dealer analogy to that angry nerd. I think most people think they can't replicate these distros minus all the extra bloat, and have a pure stream of crack from a dedicated and established dev team.

>>108328934
i have used arch for years, and linux in general for 10+ years, fuck having to do all that tweaking when i can just install cachy and be done with it

>>108329045
>NOOOOO STOP USING DOWNSTREAM DISTROS
I'm going to install a fork of a fork of a fork of a fork tomorrow, just to spite you guys

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>>108328934
>>Q: Do you really expect me to use a Firefox ESR version from 2 years ago?
?

>>108328934
it literally does not get better than this
you get all the benefits of arch and arch is now almost indestructible with how easy it is to undo everything with limine

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>>108331057
>arch is now almost indestructible
>Arch maintainers: pic related

>>108330276
I think most of your complaints are against vanilla GNOME. Fedora has a KDE version as well. Also, Fedora comes with a Firewall, it's just a bit permissive. I don't really like pre-riced distros and I don't get the bash argument, basically every mainstream distro comes with it. I just like that the Fedora team takes security really serious, but thats a given, since most of the fortune 500 rely on RHEL. Thats why I also like openSUSE, but I love the independent aspect of debian and arch.
>snapper
I agree, that sucks. Basically the only distro that does it perfectly is openSUSE.
>AUR
copr + rpm fusion
>installer
yes it does, there is the fedora everything install, where you can choose everything + you can just use the KDE or GNOME iso, which leads to smaller isos.
>overall
I think Fedora is a solid distro and you make it seem like it's a crazy DIY distro, but it's really not.

>>108330681
this anon said basically the important stuff, but I don't agree with everything.

>>108329254
I trust tranny developers way more than I trust vibe coding jeets.

I'm an endeavourjeet... Should I switch?

>>108331168
I trust both zero, so the same. ;^)

>>108331223
it's not that different
maybe on a hardware upgrade

>>108329574
>Debian
Meme server distro, there's a reason why 90% of people who use something Debian based are on Ubuntu downstreams
>FEDora
Needs too many steps to make it usable for more than basic shit. Yes, RPM Fusion isn't that hard. Do you think the average newbie is going to be assed to do it instead of using baby shit like Bazzite or a frankendistro like Nobara?
>Arch
lol, lmao. Even with hand holding installers like archinstall and EOS you can't expect most people to be willing to babysit their computers instead of doing actually productive shit with theirs.

Cachy might be "a meme", but if it didn't just werk (regardless of potential for breaking because it's still >arch) then it wouldn't be as popular as it is now.

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>>108329684
fucking trannies

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here's basically all that cachyos really is, a gui that helps out with all the basic shit and heavily cuts down on terminal fiddling
a bunch of useful buttons and easy way to install everything might not be much, but that's all arch really needed

>>108331366
would

>>108331389
endeavor is better

I get the supply chain arguments about using a few man distro. However. If Fedora is the big corporate distro with all that manpower, why does it not feel like it?
Why does it use btrfs by default but not make use of it? Why the issues with codecs and graphics drivers? Nvidia setup sounds really annoying but it worked out of the box on cachy.
Then the other alternatives are shit like Ubuntu, Debian seems nice for servers but desktops don't need their software to be three years old for "stability", at least, Windows users never needed that. I feel like, if this is the level of the competition it shouldn't be surprising that CachyOS is doing well.

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>>108328934
>think about slapping it on a USB stick and try it out because windows has been jeeted to the max
>remember all the bullshit about DEs and compositors, etc.
fuck
what are the non-meme options?

>>108331389
looks like some form of malware
>just install me on your system bro, cmon just gimme access to your terminal dude, Im just a terminal emulator I can only help you.

>arch updates
guaranteed to break packages
>cachyos updates
never broken
>arch aur updates
>"LOL IDK SOFTWARE BRO"

>>108331480
https://www.4chan.org/advertise

>>108328934
what's wrong with ESR, you absolute retard?

>>108331466
when you do anything it launches a terminal where you can see the exact commands it's executing

>>108331454
KDE and GNOME

>>108331480
>reboot after update
>screen is black
turns out someone forgot to upload the correct version of some kde shit to the right server(s)

>>108331454
literally just roll with it, at worst you can just install a different DE in 2 minutes
just remember to pick limine as your bootloader, nothing beats it

>>108331535
>>108331574
thanks
one more question, wasn't nvidia support on linux flaky at best? is it better with cachyos?

>>108331525
Ok? This doesn't mean anything.

biggest fotm success in a decade. you can tell from the seething.

>>108331454
depends on your use case but KDE covers most of them, xfce if you're on an old ass shitbox/laptop

>>108331581
>is it better with cachyos?
It's easier, not better. It automatically does the setup for you.
Well, one thing you have on cachyOS is that it's also fairly easy to test out new versions of nvidia drivers by just going to their archive and downloading the nvidia driver related packages for some testing.

>>108331581
it should just autodetect it and install the correct drivers
just remember, when in doubt, blame nvidia

>>108331249
All good homie, I just listed my preference and as I said I'm happy that cachy, bazzite and all that get more people interested in Linux. It's just personal autism, I want to avoid forks of forks of forks. But I totally get why people prefer Mint or CachyOS. I usually stick with Fedora as main OS and Debian for my homelab. I just like that Fedora has many packages in their main repo, where you need 3rd party repos on debian or the AUR on Arch. And if 3rd parties support Linux, there is always a .deb or a .rpm.

>>108331581
nvidia support is fine these days, except you dont get hardware acceleration in waydroid, sux but the devs are stubborn cunts about its proprietary drivers
the absolute most you have to do is if you want to run an application in HDR you must
1.install this https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/vk-hdr-layer-kwin6-git
2. put this in launch arguments of an app you want to run in HDR ENABLE_HDR_WSI=1

>>108329060
the arch install script is easy and installs everything you need just like any other installer.

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>>108331650
>If you want to install Arch Linux you need to partition your disk manually, decide the size of the /boot etc.
No thanks, CachyOS does it automatically.

>If you want full disk encryption you need to learn about LUKS, LVM etc.
No thanks, CachyOS does it with one click.

>If you want snapshots you should learn about Btrfs, install and configure Snapper.
No thanks, CachyOS does it automatically.

>You also need to install and configure a firewall, but don't worry Arch wiki is always there to help.
No thanks, CachyOS comes with a hardened firewall.

>If you want a fancy shell, git integration, auto-completion etc. you need to install and configure yourself.
No thanks, CachyOS comes with a preconfigured fish.

>Most importantly you need to create and keep hundreds of lines long installation notes & scripts to install Arch without problems next time.
No thanks, CachyOS installation experience is intuitive, I just need to click "Next." Then I can start minding my own business.

>For the desktop environment you need to go to the specific Arch wiki page of that DE and learn how to install and configure.
No thanks, CachyOS installer offers many DEs and they don't require further configuration.

>Just follow a Youtube video about Arch Linux installation.
No thanks, almost all of those Youtubers are amateurs faking it. Their guides are always incomplete and most of them are useless for bare-metal installation because they are using Virtualbox.

>>108331989
a reply like this would take me more time to write than install arch with all those features.

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>>108331404
>would

>>108331989
archinstall gets a lot of that shit done. Even the btrfs + snapper thing. I think you have this impression that a CLI is more complicated to use than calamares because you cannot use a cursor.
That said I'm not saying CachyOS is a bad choice,

>>108331989
why are people suddenly obsessed with fish? fish is the biggest meme and MacOS Bros, Linux Bros and BSD Bros will laugh at you

>>108332057
This, I never riced up my terminal, who the fuck does that?
the only thing useful I've seen is some bash story thing I found on one of those ublue ISOs. It was buggy though.

>wayland as default
Into the trash it goes.

>>108332097
just use an x11 DE?

>>108332057
I always used bash for years, nothing fancy just basic completion, then one day I created a KVM/QEMU VM with CachyOS (bc I had cachyOS iso present on my Downloads folder) this gave me direct comparison chance between the host's bash and guest's fish. Especially its auto-completion felt amazing.

>>108332088
That's what I'm talking about. Ricing your terminal is a waste of time. But CachyOS does it for you and it's amazing when it's there by default.

>>108332115
The whole point of a distro is that is has good defaults.

>>108328960
>>108329021
>>108329662
>>108329684
>but but but but but AI!!!
So don't use them, simple as that.

>>108332137
it doesn't have defaults unless you consider skipping through the very section that lets you pick from every DE in existence during the installer

>>108328934
i'd love to swap over but the laptop i bought 6 months ago still doesn't get any sound on linux because someone broke the kernel support for the audio chip and the commit to fix it has been ignored for over 5 months. (alienware 18 area 51 AA18250)

>>108328960
Quotebait, you can't be this anti-beauty

>>108328934
fotm
sticking to arch

it's literally just arch for people too insecure about using archinstall

>>108332205
Why can't you just fix it yourself?

>>108332137
>The whole point of a distro is
Choice, akshually.

>>108332249
i'm not a programmer and everything i did din't work. (sof-firmware does nothing) there is a fix in ubuntu (does not work on arch based distro) but at that point i might as well run microslop.

Is Bazzite better for mostly gaming PC?

>>108332253
"Choice" thing is an illusion. You just want the optimum. The rest is waste of time.

>>108332274
>You just want the optimum
Yeah, bro, this is the same for everyone everywhere, like wow.

>>108332119
>auto-completion felt amazing
cuck

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>>108331454 (me)
testing from the live USB, working well so far!
...why the fuck can't you directly paste screenshots from the clipboard into the browser

>>108332274
whatever is optimal to you isn't the same for other people, which is why choice matters and why forcing the same experience is what creates things like windows

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>>108332324
>why the fuck can't you directly paste screenshots from the clipboard into the browser
lol

>>108328960
just install the os without a desktop. And then install the cachyos-niri-noctalia package

>>108332324
>...why the fuck can't you directly paste screenshots from the clipboard into the browser
Apparently Spectacle is not configured ootb to take screenshots into clipboard.

>>108330099
I used to daily drive ESR until I found some pages not working well with it, since it was outdated. Regular FF worked fine.
I know it's a rare case (and mostly fault from the lazy devs only supporting chromium) but there's time when ESR is "too old".

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>>108328934
alright... let me check in this new flavour of the month totally not a meme distro...
>arch based
hell no.

>>108332273
depends on what's "better" for you.
Bazzite is more limited but easier to use. Just install and go. While cachy requires some technical knowledge and being aware of updates since it's Arch after all.
Don't get me wrong, Bazzite breaks just like any other Linux distro, it's not bulletproof as some shills would have you believe, it is just easier to use compared to regular distros.
If you are ONLY going to play games and do regular day-to-day stuff like watching youtube, then yes, Bazzite would be better than cachy.

>>108328960
Holy kino, I found my next distro

>>108328934
ngl the Limine Btrfs snapper tool by default is pretty cool and might finally fix the only grudge I have with Arch, babysitting updates. This might really be the rise of Arch as the default Linux standard.

>>108329614
It's just the instant before she loses balance and falls on the floor to get violently plaped by me (consensually)

>>108333330
These look fake.

>>108333645
the ambassador of Arch man:
https://vocaroo.com/12mi8AKwiLyB

>>108331454
>KDE Plasma
The desktop Microsoft has been chasing after for the last decade. Feels the most like modern Windows as a result. Can produce an 'uncanny valley' effect for Windows users when it is different.

>GNOME
The default UNIX desktop. Tries to feel like a modernized version of NeXTstep, the most popular UI for UNIX workstations from 30 years ago. Feels the most like other modernized NeXTstep interfaces like MacOS and iOS as a result. You won't mistake it for Windows, but it can produce 'culture shock' for users who are only used to Windows.

>Hyperland, sway, niri, i3
More minimal tiled interfaces for UNIX nerds. Probably not what you're after as a new user switching from Windows.

>XFCE
If you miss the desktop interfaces of the 90s and early 00s Microslop and Apple abandoned. This one is still maintained.

>>108333840
>The default UNIX desktop
I think your LLM needs some updates
https://pkgstats.archlinux.de/fun/Desktop%20Environments/history

>>108334094
>literally everything except kde going down
how did kde do it

>>108332160
That makes it better anyway

>>108334141
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>>108331454
Meme ones should be at the bottom of the list now. Don't select COSMIC though, unless you wish to be a beta tester.

>>108328934
> at Arch wiki?
Just use Claude to vibeinstall arch retard

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cachy, arch, steamos (also arch-based) are dominating the steam user base.

>>108334141
its the singular only one thats usable

>>108334094
Former Windows users migrating to the Arch distribution of GNU/Linux has nothing to do with what the Default desktop is for UNIX.
Neither does MacOS, the desktop UNIX distribution with the most users using their own in-house desktop.

>>108334495
It really is an Arch world out there.

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>>108328934
I started using nobara instead and now I'm too lazy to switch again sorry

>>108329035
I haven't seen any benchmarks of it performing more than like 2 or 3% better. it sort of feels like people with the misconception that Gentoo will give them performance gains when said gains are so small as to be basically nonexistent
nothing wrong with an arch-based distro, but I agree with other anons that I'd rather stick to a non-derivative and just use arch directly

>>108334805
>UNIX is when you're gay and using an abortion of a DE that doesn't understand what it wants to be besides different

>>108334094
what we use that for? kde has been growing, alright, but most distros default to GNOME. for me that olny shows that even being popular, no one wants to risk shiping you as default; something, something, *krashes*.

>>108334932
I like Nobara but its tools always feel clunky. GE shouldn't deviate so much from stock.

>>108331989
>If you want snapshots you should learn about Btrfs, install and configure Snapper.
>No thanks, CachyOS does it automatically.
This shit always breaks my install after the first update idk why.

>If you want full disk encryption you need to learn about LUKS, LVM etc.
>No thanks, CachyOS does it with one click.
I still wonder why archinstall can't do this

Other than their misconfiguration of snapper, CachyOS only has a couple more inconveniences and those are their defaults of google/cloudflare for time sync and DNS. They should add an option in their installer to use Arch defaults

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>>108332324
it's probably missing wl-clipboard

>>108332485
likely missing a dep, I just ctrl+v'd picrel into the QR box

>>108335221
It's literally just a setting in spectacle, you can change it to always copy

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>>108328934
I much prefer arch based distros, but whatever they're doing that lets the kernel partialy upgrade, requiring you to chroot from a live cd to finish the upgrade needs to be fixed. Over all having to fix something stupid like that once a year is a price I'm willing to pay for how much better arch based distros are.

>>108328934
>CachyOS
I do not like the name.

>>108335115
already an option >>108329055

does it actually make a difference?
im on nixos

>>108329036
MX Linux is Mexican Linux. You gonna get FRIJOLE'd.

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obviously the smartest thing you could possibly do is flock over in mass to [NEW THING]
it will surely solve everything

>>108328960
it could be that you're just very gay

>>108335701
no, its just arch for retards, even though arch already is simple

>>108328983
>government sponsored
QRD?

>>108331989
>If you want to use X, then learn how it works so you can help yourself.
>No thanks, i'm too lazy to use my peanut brain.

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>>108334495
Arch really is the best distro and everybody knows it. Nothing special its just perfect simplicity

>>108336325
>wins by just shipping latest stable releases of software
>instead of a bunch of modifications and backports and other shit
its kinda funny

>new manual intervention drops
>the majority of cachy gaymer installs gets nuked
You love to see it

>>108336369
I had so many random little issues with linux mint constantly and i kept having to google stuff especially after big updates that sometimes wouldnt even boot anymore. I have had 0 issues since switching to arch a year ago beyond the intitial hurdles of setting everything up.

>>108336341
Shit just werks 95% of the time when it's the latest stuff without having to deal with months or even years old software.
The other 5% is easy to roll back from if you're not retarded.

>>108336369
Ive been using arch for 13 years and I honestly never read the news before I update. if its something actually important some autist on here will scream about it in a thread

>>108328934
Ok, but if it does that well at gaming and performance, why do they keep up with such an old firefox version? A GUI installer shouldn't be an issue either, i sat up anaconda for my stupid uni distro project on a weekend.

>>108336122
i was talking about optimizations

>>108336422
>old firefox version
Are you a bot?
They literally have the most current FF on install.

>>108336369
I'm waiting for this as well. I was able to run cachy for like half a year before an update screwed something up. So it may take a little while but it's bound to happen.

>>108336325
Winning by everyone else committing suicide isn't much is an achievement.

>>108329060
arch isn't perfect (archinstall has no dualboot option without making partition manually) but it's nice to know what the fuck is going on if shit does fail.

How the fuck do i stop vsync and have screen tearing while having rx9070xt on this os

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Anything to consider with cachyos for first time windowsfag?

How dogshit is playing pirated games?

>>108328934
>best performing distro
>main dev is an arch dev as well
>helpful discord/forum
>makes money compared to the avg /g/-tard
https://www.patreon.com/CachyOS

>>108337158
>How dogshit is playing pirated games?
I would say this is pretty much at the top of the list of dogshit things to do. Stealing fictional media to waste your precious life? 99% dogshit.

>>108337158
same shit like on winslop

>>108337158
If you're asking 4chan then you've already lost. Stay on Windows.

>>108337114
Why would you want that? What you really want is wlr-randr --output DP-1 --adaptive-sync enabled

>>108337208
more fps in gaming
vsync off doesn't work in gaming

>>108336369
I've had more problems with fucking kubuntu shitting the bed than with cachy

>>108337214
More FPS than your monitor displays doesn't make you better at Skyrim.

>>108337008
It's literally what OP said. If i knew what cachyos is i wouldn't have asked.

>>108337165
>making cash out of retards that cant into arch
kekkk

>>108337279
the mumbai dream

>>108337279
You don't donate to Arch? What a fucking cheapstake.

>>108337175
Doesn't sound too bad then honestly. Apparently bottles is pretty good for pirated gaymes from what I've read

>>108337254
how do i turn it off
i feel like vsync never turns off

>>108337424
Does your monitor have a setting in its on screen menu?

>>108337424
https://github.com/swaywm/sway/pull/7598 there isn't a universal toggle for it because you really don't want this, every compositor is different if it supports it at all. You really do just want to leave vsync on and enable adaptive sync. I am telling you this as an RX 9060 XT user.

>>108337459
no my monitor has a gsync while i have an amd gpu
>>108337485
i don't want vsync at all

>>108328934
This has been solved by immutables and flatpaks

>>108337678
>no my monitor has a gsync while i have an amd gpu
There might be some shenanigans taking place between your system and the monitor. Have you tried a different monitor or messing about with the settings _at all_?

man cachyos has a lot of monitor and vsync issues. vsync never turns off, second monitor has hdmi port and it always turns off and on at high refresh rate. everything else is fine

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>>108337740
just tried a different monitor same issue and i messed with the setting
also the tearing option supposed to be checked and it doesn't work

>>108331420
>If Fedora is the big corporate distro with all that manpower, why does it not feel like it?
Fedora is not a beginner distro, most people start out with something debian based, like Ubuntu or Mint.
>Why does it use btrfs by default but not make use of it?
It makes use of it, but sadly not an easy to setup rollback feature. I agree with that. And whenever you ask that, the usual answer you will get is: "Use Fedora Atomic" or "Use openSUSE"
>Why the issues with codecs
Fedora has to follow US law. Cachy and other community maintained projects can use codecs, because they don't count as company. Even on Windows you don't have all codecs and some are paid in the MS store and VLC and K-lite just exist, because codecs were always a problem, even on windows.
>and graphics drivers?
Fedora follows a stric FOSS guideline, nothing nonfree, similar how debian was before Debian 12. Except for firmware and stuff. It's still not seamless to install Nvidia driver, but at least they ask you "Do you want to enable the non-free repo"
> but desktops don't need their software to be three years old for "stability", at least, Windows users never needed that.
Because it's completely different on Windows, if you run Windows 10 IoT LTSC, your base will stay the same, but your graphics driver is from a 3rd party and updates and your software is probably from the web as .exe or the ms store. And on LTS distros, you get everything from one repo. Flatpaks or AppImages can help.
>I feel like, if this is the level of the competition it shouldn't be surprising that CachyOS is doing well.
It's just a different audience + a bit of hype. Mint will always be popular, fedora will always be popular and CachyOS does something good, especially for new users.

>>108337742
The HDMI thing is mostly an AMD issue, but it's because the HDMI copyright holder doesn't want the latest HDMI supported in an open source driver so AMD just runs it on the older standard that doesn't enable all the bandwidth, resulting in the display sperging out at high res/refresh. Best to just use display port on AMD under linux, or DP to HDMI dongle which bypasses the problem.

>>108328934
i installed it after the latest arch kernel update made it unbootable (wont even enter the LUKS2 screen after the bootloader) and i like it

it does a lot of shit out of the box i think arch should or should at least give you an option to. for example if you install arch with plasma it gives you almost a full usable desktop but if you install arch with niri its very barebones while cachyos with niri is fully usable out of the box

>>108337960
Arch is giving you the default niri configs, while Cachyos is giving you pre-made configs.

>>108328934
another stupid name linux distro to add to the abandonware pile

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>>108328934
Most distros could compete with CachyOS by simply implementing pic related, but for some reason they refuse to.

>>108328934
>I need up-to-date software.
Usecase for up to date software?

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>>108328934
Based OP is right. You can't stop the rise of Cachy

>>108329009
>just use SUSE. you don't need more
ftfy

>>108338017
so the feds can sneak malware into your compute envir

>>108334495
Bazzitekeks, we are losing
>>108336108
>new thing
I have been using cachy for 15 months now.

>>108337158
>How dogshit is playing pirated games?
Pretty easy, you install like you would on Windows by using Lutris.

>>108338040
bazzite is a meme distro "lending" patches from cachyos anyways

>>108337994
yea i know im just saying its a much better experience out of the box. cachy just gives you the shit arch should have included in archinstall

if you're in the 'oh its bloat i wanna tinker with configs and settings all day' crowd i dont think arch is the way i think nixos is the system for that.

>>108338079
Nah I've been using Cachyos before it even got any traction cause it wasn't breaking constantly like ALHP. Preset configs never bothered me personally, I will change things how I like them though.

>>108338076
And the Cachy chad devs refused to team up with them because the bazzite team if full of CoC and bureaucratic trannies.

>>108338047
Neat, thanks for the info

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I am a simple man that just browses the web, shitposts on 4chinz, and plays games.
Switched to CachyOS months ago and it's been great. I only had to make minimal adjustments and figure out a few things in the beginning. Now all the shit from microslop is no longer my problem and it feels nice. Should have done this sooner.

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>>108338376
What was the stuff you had to figure out / adjust at the start? And how is the gaming on it

>>108338009
>remove orphans

Evil distro confirmed?

>>108336732
its like 3% better usually, can be much higher depending on the application and cpu but that doenst really happen for normal consumer apps. its easy to add the cachy repo and its kernel if youre on vanilla arch already so might as well, but I wouldn't switch for it

>>108338438
Just basic konsole commands. How to install packages, how to update, etc.
Gaming has been great though. It's just like a steamdeck.
Majority of games "just work" after install in Steam.
The rest, you can run with proton compatibility, or add as a non-steam game and then turn on proton.

>>108337254
>More FPS than your monitor displays
lower input lag does in fact make you better at X

you autismos finally did it, made ur own gay"men" distro? nothing like jeetdowns to bring the year of the linux desktop

>>108332273
I haven't tried CachyOS so I can't say, but I've been on it since November and have had no issues. No tearing, HDR and VRR just work, no issues updating or system breaking. It's good if you're like me and don't know anything about actually operating a distro and don't have time to learn. Admittedly my use case is just gaming, web browsing, and media hording. I don't work with productivity software and I have a windows laptop if I need office for any reason

>>108332273
bazzite is for making your PC into a console
if you have no clue how PCs function and you come from a console background its a good thing otherwise you are just gonna give yourself headaches for no profit

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>>108338642
How so?

>>108338022
pacman mogs zypper at every single task imaginable
also OpenSUSE's default snapper config will eventually break your system during an update

>>108338614
>I have a windows laptop if I need office for any reason
you can use Winboat to run that I think, "CachyOS Hello" greeter has a button to install it on the app/settings menu

>>108329009
>passing fad
on track to overtake base arch on steam btw
it's already almost the biggest distro that people actually use on their leisure pcs with no signs of stopping

>>108338804
Oh cool, I didn't know we were running office on it these days. I'll have to look into that

>>108337857
>DP to HDMI dongle which bypasses the problem
fun fact, this is how nvidia and intel prevented the HDMI copyright issue, their hdmi ports are just DP ports with a converter baked in

>>108328934
Arch is for people that want the level of control that comes with installing everything manually tho. It also helps it work perfectly as a base. For people that cant be fucked, you have distros like catchyos that use arch in this manner

>>108337960
>kernel update made it unbootable
pro-tip, install both linux and linux-lts so you get two options in the boot menu

>>108338704
because bazzite is the immutable meme. cachyos > fedora kde > bazzite

>>108337171
>just spend money goy
Your life is dogshit, scoop yourself up.

>>108328934
I recently reinstalled it (I never uninstalled it, I just forgot how to change my boot order in the BIOS, and tried everything in order to troubleshoot why I could boot into my Linux drive) and I have to say it's petty nice.

>>108328934
The problem has never been the distro, but the software that comes with the distro.
KDE, Gnome, Xfeces, it all sucks and is filled with bugs and crashes and lack of options.
The file managers are absolute jokes.
The firewalls aren't good.
There are 3 million music players and every single one sucks.

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>>108339041
Kde and gnome both have better ui/ux and features from windows and macos in my opinion. Also dolphin is a great file manager, I found no point at which it didnt do anything I needed it to. For firewalls portmaster is somewhat good. For music players lollypop and elisa are good up to an extend but I agree something better is needed.

>>108339057
>>108339073
Have they fixed gnome/kde addons being broken, 90% of them outdated, and themes packed by chinamen that install rootkits or delete your partitions?

Because those shitty DEs aren't usable without at least a dozen addons.

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>>108339006
>reads ``just spend money''
>ignores ``stealing is dishonest and makes you a piece of shit''
Your life is filled with lies, so much so you can no longer see clearly.

>>108339094
I dont use gnome but I think the extensions that you would want (panels for example) are in a good state
Kde addons when it comes to extra functionality are very hit or miss, but kde has currently so much features baked in by default that you really dont need much. User themes work fine tho, I think the same for most user widgets.

For me, its tumbleweed

>>108339114
I WISH I was physically stealing the files off of Ubisoft's servers so I could watch the executives cry about it like you are. I use linux btw.

>>108339147
Yes, look at how pathetic you are.
>I wish
Wish in one hand and shit in the other. See which fills up faster. It will be the type of life you prefer that wins.
>cry
Have some more, bn.

>>108339041
What are you even trying to do that makes everything suck?
KDE and all those others just work. If you're trying to download shit off of random sites without double checking like you said then that's a (You) issue.
Dolphin, thunar, nemo just work. Nautilus is the only one that's kind of barebones but if you're using it then you're likely on GNOME, so you should know extensions will make it less shitty anyway.
ufw and firewalld work and changing things on them takes no time unless you're genuinely stupid.
I'll concede that there being no good Musicbee replacement sucks though, but with Linux getting more popular lately I'm coping that someone will try to make one eventually. Most music players still just work though.
Options are a good thing. Some are shit, some will fit.

>>108338755
I used openSUSE TW for a while and this is bullshit. It has the BEST (by far) snapper implementation. SUSE hired basically every skilled BtrFS dev and even 10 years ago at SUSE CON they showcased that shit, they are betting everything on BtrFS, unlike Red Hat, they only use that shit for Fedora, but keep XFS for RHEL.

>>108337158
>How dogshit is playing pirated games?
It can be weird at first, but you have multiple tools to do the job:
>Lutris
>Faugus
>Bottles
90% will work OOTB. If it's an installer, just add the setup.exe to Faugus for example (there is a plus icon). And run the installer. After that you can change the setup.exe to the actual game.exe and start it.

if it's a preinstalled game, you just need to add the game.exe to faugus and play.

I tried over 50 games, everything worked. From indie to AAA. But one thing that I learned over the time, BUT there are like ~10% that require wine dll overwrites. But that is mostly for games that say in the description "crack fix" and all you have to do is:

WINEDLLOVERRIDES="ADD HERE=n,b" %command%

add this command to faugus, bottles, lutris, steam or whatever. It will say launch arguments or wine overwrites. Just replace "ADD HERE" with the crackfix.dll (without the dll), those crackfixes are mostly dll files with weird names. But I only had to do this for like 3 games.

>>108339392
How do you apply update patches?

>>108339431
I never do this, but if it's an exe just add it to your game via faugus/lutris/bottles and run it.
If it's just files, just drag and drop them into your game folder.

>>108339262
I didn't do anything with it other than installing a browser, a media player and spent half an hour theming KDE then shut it off. Next day ran zypper dup and just when snapper got triggered the system slowed to a crawl just to crash a minute later and never worked right again. The second install killed itself the same way. Didn't get a full day of use out of the 2 installs lmao

Cachy's snapper config does the same shit, it seems no one can make that abomination work safely out of the box.

>>108328934
I've been using cachyos, i like it, but it's also my first linux.

Basically just the new Mint for people that wanna pretend they're not newfriends. Stick to vanilla arch. It'll be better for you in the long run.

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>>108339735
idk man, i have been using linux for well over 10 years at this point, cachy is just simpler.
wan, bash, thank you ma'am, and we're up and running.

shrimple as.

>>108339735
>Stick to vanilla arch. It'll be better for you in the long run.
this is literally better than arch by the virtue of basically being a second sieve for all the bad shit
arch offers zero benefits

>>108339707
Impressive, I never checked out Cachy, but I watched some reviews and there aren't any GUI stores, right? So if you manage to daily drive this distro, kudos to you. But you weren't a windows normie, right? Probably hardware enthusiast / nerd / poweruser.

>>108339707
>>108339771
the duality of cachychads

>>108339808
their package installer is a gui, lets you search through the entire repo and has descriptions for everything

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>arch fags are now being bullied by arch fork users
what a timeline.

>>108339787
>all the bad shit
unless you're a retard downloading untested packages, this shouldn't ever be a problem. like clicking on ads that say your computer has a virus and believing that shit.
with arch, you actually learn what you're (and cachy) is doing. it's objectively better in the long run if you're gonna stick with linux.

>>108339839
Gentoo users are also really quiet recently

>>108339839
All arch fags moved on to nix.
nix btw.

>>108339808
I was a windows normie. Windows did that update that added ai and it turned my pc into a slow running potato.

>>108332273
It's almost exactly the same. As long as they have gamescope and shit installed it's fine.

>>108338957
>because bazzite is the immutable meme
Not an answer.

>>108338957
>>108340040
I don't use bazzite atm, but it's a fine distro especially for beginners and console-pc setups. Sadly they had this maintainer problem, but they were one of the first distros doing that shit with chimeraos.

>>108339987
rare based windows convert

>>108339954
>Arch is finally a stable, usable and respectable distro
>autists go away to find a new meme
checks out.

>>108339921
gentoo was basically infiltrated and destroyed by recent changes

>>108328934
>systemd
Thanks but I'm sticking with Artix

>>108340166
if you use any desktop environment that handles 90% of how your pc feels and functions then you have no right to cry about irrelevant backend shit

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>>108340116
>Arch is finally a stable, usable and respectable distro

>>108328934
is this supposed to be stable arch?
I don't get it

>>108339666
btrfs has and will always be a meme no matter how hard people shill it. it's the wayland of filesystems
ext4 or go home

>>108340634
>it's the wayland of filesystems
the standard that you have to be mentally ill or autistically fixated over something minor to hate?

>>108340608
Not exactly, it's Arch but for newer ISA like x86_64-v3.

>>108330883
sudo pacman -Syu bbc-browser

>>108340634
>btrfs is bad mmkay?
old dead meme, move on faggot.

>ext4
there are a couple of filesystems in the kernet that are superior. Im only talking about non-cow fs.

>>108340608
its just pre-riced arch and ships with a kernel compiled with modern cpu optimizations enabled

>>108331168
Exactly they’re actually competent comparatively

>>108341435
>Exactly
The topic was trust, though, not competency.

ok came back after a while and found this github with a fix (basically replae the kernel with the dell OEM kernel. What negative effects can i expect trying to run the Dell OEM linux kernel on cachy os?? https://gist.github.com/donriddo/8276a571335b1caf87456f4c3248fc76#comments

2nd question i planned on using systemd instead of grub. i'm guessing i need to take some different steps than this guide.

>>108341627
systemd-boot has auto-discovery, so just run the mkinitcpio command and its good

>>108340061
Maintainer problem?

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>>108335221
i think it's the native 4chan extension not supporting it
tried pasting it in imgur and it worked
i'll work on setting everything up (userscripts etc.) properly later
anyway it's been working mostly fine so far even on this antique 2013 laptop, shit's mostly smooth, had to force h264/AVC for youtube vids because this old CPU's iGPU doesn't support vp8/9 hw decoding

>>108343276
they kicked out their kernel and handheld mantainer for being transphobic and shit. Stupid shit aside, the guy really seemed like a pain in the ass to work with to be honest.
That's why they started the whole "gaming collective" bullshit, to be able to leech off of someone else's kernel work.
Bazzite used to ship with the modified cachyos kernel but not they ship the generic Fedora one.

>>108329500
Anime is mainstream but most people don't want weebshit wallpaper bloat in their OS. This definitely isn't gonna make you popular.

>>108343585
>wallpaper bloat
How is having a few extra pngs included bloat you retard

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>>108343585
literally nobody cares or thinks that hard about it. only retards on an anime site would be mad about anime wallpapers.

>>108343643
It is bloat by being unwanted slop.

>>108328934
Dude i could read the install guide and install arch in less than a day when i was a 12yo kid and it was rougher then.
Your only excuse is being more retarded than a 12 year old.

>>108343704
sure and then einstein clapped for you

>>108343712
No, because it is trivial to do and only a retard couldn't figure it out.
I'm not flexing my point it's that it's not hard whatsoever...

Undervolting fixed my issue with this shitty os but vsync is still an issue when i want tearing

>>108343704
>cachyos install takes 5min
>manual arch install takes 30min
youre so smart for wasting time ranjesh

>>108343704
Why would I want to do that instead of just clicking "Next" on the CachyOS installer though?

>>108344427
to customize the os to your liking and not use some zoomer retard defaults

>>108344435
>to customize the os to your liking
But CachyOS is already customised to my liking.

>>108328934
>NOOO! Debian is stable. You need stability. I love my stability.
Yes.
I use stable on my stable machine.
on my gayman machine, I use Windows and BAZZite.
Good luck with your maintenance burden OS friend, if it makes you happy it's worthwhile, don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

>>108344466
debian is only for servers brainlet

>>108344484
Wrong, idiot.
Servers use RHEL. Debian is for workstations.

Fuck cachyos the faggot reviewing this distro are so so misleading
>saying its a distro made for older hardware or compatible with older hardware
My ass noita stutters like hell with this os
On Win10 it runs fine
>has gayming issues like vertical synchronization
Faggots choice distro
if you cant even turn it off in gayming then you have a problem
>somehow its an innate issue as soon as you install this distro os
Monitor will never be the issue its the os. Hardware will never be the issue. I bet its and arch based issue not exclusive to cachy. The. Code. Is. Shit.
>can bricked just via update
I cant switch anymore. Im stuck with trannies cachyos is like part of me now and i hate it.


Thx thx thx thx thx lgbt queers

>>108344511
trvke, but some depending on the company, some enterprises use RHEL and SLES for workstations. Production and AI.

>>108344609
>noita stutters like hell
that's just how noita be albeit, absolute cpu hog

>>108344511
only americucks use rhel, europe uses debian for servers.

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>>108344609
Disable ananicy and use one of the scx schedulers like lavd and you will have 0 stutters. Tearing is enabled for fullscreen applications by default. I get 0 stutters and my 1% lowers are far better than any other distro/kernel setup ive used. Proton cachyos has a flag for using async shader compilation if you really need it also.

>>108344617
If its heavy of the cpu then he just needs to use a different scheduler until he finds one that works well with his setup, lavd or bpfland with the gaming profile will do wonders

Is there a way to get it to cool off on the performance shit when gaming? It's overheating my laptop.
And yes I replaced the thermal paste. For all the shit I'll give windows 11 it didn't heat up that much on it.

>>108344646
My laptop uses 10w less power with Bpfland over BORE, for 2d games I also set my power profile to power saving.

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>>108344642
>If its heavy of the cpu
this makes it sound like you're not a knower

>>108344617
What. Did. I. Say.
Win10 it werks fine
On cachyshit it works like shite. Cachy or arch are the culprits
Fucking i7700k synergises with win10 while cachy is shit. Weird how DE like xfce11 and DEs can affect perfomance drastically while win10 still looks nicer

>>108344636
>Proton cachyos has a flag for using async shader compilation if you really need it also
How the heck i use this proton on steam?in the compability section where is properties? Or be more specific on how to turn it off in gaming and experience tearing.

>>108344609
>>108344617
>>108344682
Noita's engine simply chokes the moment you start doing anything funny. The engine would explode before your 12 year old thinkpad cpu bacame an issue.

>>108328934
Cachy OS is for median IQ midwits.

The higher IQ take is that you should just dual boot Windows LTSC for gaming and Linux for normal everyday use.

Windows literally has superior kernel architecture for real time video performance and API usage. Linux has to go through proton/wine conversion and then Wayland and then GPU drivers.

>>108339735
Steam statistic shows that plain Arch is the most popular desktop distro.
It's not even a contrarian option anymore.

>>108344743
>Windows LTSC for gaming
I don't play kernel malware games. All my emulators run on Loonix and I don't want to play cracked games on windows for security reasons.

No, just use windows for work only (if you have to), I'm sure you will have a company issued laptop for all your needs.

>>108344721
My 12yo thinkpad still works fine if i use the best operating system on the market which is win10. Games work fine. Stutter occurs when i switch to linux

>>108344707
Tearing should be enabled by default with KDE for fullscreen applications, check your display settings. Also to use proton-cachyos itll be in the game properties in the compatibility section like any other proton version but youll need the proton-cachyos-slr package installed. Theres information here about the environment variables if you want to enable async shader comp, but its nothing to do with tearing its to prevent stutters when initially compiling shaders while playing games though it does have low latency flags. If you can't force tearing with the display option you can try forcing screen tearing individually for each game with the window rules settings tab in kde
https://github.com/CachyOS/proton-cachyos/releases

>>108344743
yes you are truly an intellectual by wasting storage space on windows so you can waste time rebooting into indian spyware to play games then rebooting back into linux when you want to do anything else multiple times a day

>>108344792
kek

>>108344792
why are you playing video games in the middle of the day? Do you even have a white collar job?

>>108344768
Alright i will try it. Thank you

>>108344420
>learning is a waste of time
sounds like you are the jeet.
also i could probably speedrun it in 2 minutes now if i wanted.
also when something breaks you will be able to fix it yourself.
>>108344427
well when i was a kid the purpose was learning.
now i still use arch the reason is mostly because i like having a specific setup ie zfs, i build my own archiso and it has my ssh pub key and bunch of tools installed, this way i can just boot a pc on the key and do the install from another which is more comfy.
Not that i often do an install but it's nice to have.

>>108344904
>copy pasting from the wiki is learning
delusional retard

>>108344927
1. It wasn't as straightforward at the time.
2. that's the point, i wasn't just copy pasting, i was trying to understand what commands did, what pieces a working system were.
Also there are many steps when they won't tell you what to do ie formatting the drives, setting bootloader etc, and if they do you very likely will want a different setup.
Ie i use zfs on root, encrypted home.

That's how i started learning about Linux.
the learning value is what you make of it, you can either copy paste like a retard or take the time to learn what everything does, how it works, read the man pages etc.

Also the arch install guide will just get you to a basic install, you won't have network manager set up, no graphical environnent, pipewire, driver settings etc 90% of the stuff i need is not installed at the end of the guide lmao.

I will trust 0% of anything that is shilled

>>108344743
sorry im just not feeling like booting into windows while im on hour 76/128 rsyncing some schizos library