I find it hard to believe that a Linux distro that doesn't have a GUI install option and has you try to install it like an operating system from the 90s, is THAT popular to begin with. What's the appeal of having to install your OS like a retard just to use it?
>>108338467>what is archinstallit takes like 5 minutes to install these days
>>108338467what is that thing
>>108338520It's a Linux operating system, but it doesn't have a GUI installer like every modern Linux OS does.
>>108338467no. it is and has always been what it says on the tin. its an assemble-it-yourself OS. If you have very specific preferences, dont mind managing dependencies, or need to minimize resource use so autistically for whatever reason, its probably the best option for you.For sane people, use literally anything else and it will work just fine.
>>108338467It just fucking works I've had decade old installs that moved computer twice.
Fuck trannies
Bragging rights mostly
>>108338467>Is Arch Linux Really That Good?It's overrated, but yeah - it's one of the better distros out there.
>>108338544Huh? You mean gentoo and linux from scratchArch is basically what Ubuntu used to be. Just an easy to use os that works well
>>108338467yesits just tedious to configure
>>108338495This.I don't know why people aren't fully aware of archinstall yet it makes arch as easy if not easier to install than most operating systems.
>>108338467Arch is the only distro that just takes upstream and packages it for you, without adding a bunch of gay bullshit on top.You get new software packaged in a sane way that can be installed without a bunch of weird dependencies and weird configs from an installer.That is the entire appeal of arch for me. If I could get Debian (frozen repos) without a bunch of weird dependency stuff and weird Debian-specific patches to packages, I would 100% be on Debian. But their packaging and odd meta-packages like task-kde-desktop and task-british-desktop and shit like that annoys me; just let me install some damn packages instead of collections of packages that make your dependencies bork themselves routinely.
>>108338708have you tried installing something with calamares? I just held the power button down after 45min-1h of waiting. I couldn't take it anymore
>>108338719No never used it.
>>108338732It's a graphical installer that some distros use
>>108338467>What's the appeal of having to install your OSso youre in control of what packages are installed. if you do a distro upgrade on anything else who knows what gets changed. change is annoying
>>108338467>least performative fag
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>>108338467femboys like this are much better then girls
>>108338520Modern-day SLS
>>108338467does this thing posts here? her pics get nuked from the archives for sone reason.>>108338520average zoomie.
Use Gentoo it’s the better Arch. Current Arch is just Debian but without a gui installer
what do you find hard to believe it does what it says it does, minimal base install, very fast package updates for better or worse, fuckhuge repos plus fuckhuge community repo that makes installing literally any piece of linux software in existence trivialif you're familiar with the all the important moving parts that make up GNU/Linux, can google and benefit from very recent software all the time then yes there's very little reason to not use Arch
>>108340015>Point release, stable Debian is just like rolling release, unstable Arch.What
>>108338467Arch linux devs themselves said Arch linux is designed to be easy to maintain. When an Arch package is created from source, all of the options and extras are included. This is why everything in Arch works together. The downside is that it's bloated as hell, but I guess that isn't that much of an issue nowadays.
>>108338544>dont mind managing dependenciesManaging dependencies is easier in Arch than any of apt based system. In Debian/Ubuntu you need to constantly add random repositories and check which one has the right version of program that you need etc, while in Arch it's literally "yay whatever" and I have whatever.
>>108338467the fact that you don't know how to use an OS without a GUI sounds a lot like you problem
>>108340493This isn't the 90s anymore grandpa.
>I don't understand thing that is not for me.Don't know what to tell you OP
>>108340957>grandpau were adopted grandson
>>108338467God i want to fuck diinki
>>108340225You only need to change one file to make Debian rolling release and same with Arch, only update it once every few months and it’s basically the same. Both use systemd and both give you the same starting point in the installation
>>108341180can we do it together?
>>108341180i'm sure you wouldn't find him as hot without the metric fuckton of filters he uses
>>108341190>>108340015deb has no AUR, but got more software under apt (with much more modifications, since they're curated), more strict about licences and more supported; with overall different philosophies it certainly doesnt feel the same.
I like arch becase:- As far as desktop OSs go, it's one of the most minimals- It's rolling release, so it's better for gaming- Comes with no Desktop Environment out of the box, which is a big plus for me. I only use window managers- Big repository, literally everything I installed was through either the official repo or the AUR- Archinstall makes installation very easy
>>108338714Slackware
>>108338467>What's the appeal of having to install your OS like a retard just to use it?It would appear that you are retarded yourself, If you can install arch yourself without archinstall, you can't actually be a retard, also >what is a learning exerciseIf you want to better understand linux , installing it from scratch is a good way to improve it, though gentoo is better for thatarch is good if you don't want any excess , want to be on up to date packages.
>>108338714opposite for me, everywhere i look i do agree with their adjustments: be it taking internet access away from a password manager or deleting telemetry code of software.
>>108341850Why is it so time consuming to install if it's so great?
>>108345078How is it time consuming? It takes less than 5 minutes to pick your options in archinstall and another minute to install the system
>>108338520its a swedish "person">>108339691>heryou don't have to pretend here + the creature itself doesn't know what it is
>>108338467You are absolutely right, Arch uses systemd which makes it unsuitable for regular user who needs freedom.
>>108345733The average Arch os install takes 10-15 minutes tops.
>>108338495Personally? It never worked for me. It always breaks in some different way, so I haven't bothered with it in years.Still, OP can always try it out, or use of the many distros made based on it. It can be good, but it, as always, depends on the user and hardware.
>>108345822You mean the old manual way?The last time I installed it with archinstall, the actual install took 1 minute and 18 seconds. That includes formatting the drive and downloading the packages
The biggest hurdle to overcome with the wider adoption of linux is not microsoft but linux elitists.
>>108338467>What's the appeal of having to install your OS like a retard just to use it?what does this even mean? if you know the install commands which you can read from the wiki it takes like 10 minutes to get setup, plus they have archinstall now which is a terminal ui and very easy to use. to have a full graphical installer they would have to bloat their install iso with a de and graphics drivers etc to gain a couple of extra users who are likely retards who flood the support forum
>>108346786i mean, its not like arch isnt filled with retards already.
I just installed Arch and KDE. What apps should I download other VIM and Visual Studio code, what apps should I download? I'm coming from Windows.
>>108347911I can smell the curry, pajeet
>>108347911The gentoo wiki has some recommended programs, I'm sure the arch wiki does too. Other than that just think about what you're using regularly and what could help with that.
>>108348039Yes, I am Indian, and yes I got hired by my boss because he is also Indian, and yes, I did replace a white programmer and yes, I let the junior devs do all my work for me while I sit back and browse 4chan and watch bollywood movies.>>108348196I checked the wiki but couldn't find this page you speak of. Where is it?https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Gentoo_Wiki:Guidelines
>>108348196Just found it using AI. Thank you anon.
>>108345078its not are you retarded??
>>108338520Average linux user in 2026.
>>108338467archinstall might as well be a gui installer, and unlike a gui installer or something like alpine's interactive install scripts, archinstall can be reasonably automated with external tools because you can just save the configuration, along with the account credentials (which are conveniently obfuscated and you are offered an option to encrypt them). I, however, cannot install a complete system with archinstall without it crashing or fucking something up, so I just use the bare minimum I need to run my install scripts from the tty after the first boot. My base install has ~1300 packages and takes up 30 gigs of space. It would be an enourmous pain in the ass to build my desktop on any other upstream, and any other downstream packages I could conceivably want are things that I can get through distrobox, or are things that I should compile myself because the versions on anyone's repos doesn't come with all the features I want.The ease with which you can use archinstall with packer to create a build loop for arch vm's is another thing. You can easily test and deploy purpose suited VM's, say for forwarding applications. Make a template, change a few lines of a shell script or unit file, and you've made a new VM sandbox. You could do this with any distro, but archinstall takes all of the brainwork out of getting you to boot. It even sets up swap on zram.
>>108341190I don't like apt. I think managing dependencies in apt is retarded. I don't want my desktop to have to use apt. Fuck that. I'll use apt in something that I won't have to unfuck. Like a distrobox.
>>108349495the alternatives are:>*nukes yours bootloader and config files* pacmanor >slow as fuck dnfpick your poison situation.
>>108338467>retardimplies low IQ. Retarded people would prefer graphical installers because they'd fuck up a shell install. You've got it backwards.
>>108345078No it's not. Installing Arch with the archinstall script is easy and fast as fuck. It only took 3 minutes to install even with my shitty hardware.
>>108349843I remember installing arch just in the week grub had a massive bug that made it impossible to boot. I thought I messed up so I followed the tutorial three times, even not going for FDE as I initially did. Only a few days later I heard about grub shitting the bed and I was so annoyed.
