What's the future for Microsoft Windows?
>>108345013Financeial collapse and acquisition by amazon
as garbage as 11 is, it's still not so bad to make normies move away from it, if 12 really is a cloud OS it might actually be the end of windows.
>>108345027Go check out their financials sometime. Microsoft is making ridiculous amounts of money.
>more ads>more slopcode>more pajeets shitting around>more shit in general
>>108345013>Anon thinks somehow Microsoft is all about the consumer market>he doesn't know about the billions of Windows Server, Teams and O365 licenses and subsMS is literally printing free money. They sell crazy amounts of volume licenses to OEMs and make a killing off of corpos.
>>108345013a return to a closed off, completely autonomous OS with Windows 13 after Windows 12 gets even less adoption than Windows 11. We're reaching a point where usability is nearly gone and it will start affecting normies.
>>108345013SAAS
>The good news is the report is false. According to contacts that are familiar with the Windows roadmap, there is no plan to ship a Windows 12 this year. In fact, I understand that the Windows roadmap for 2026 is all about fixing Windows 11 and attempting to improve its reputation by addressing top feedback such as reducing AI bloat across the OS, bringing back the movable Taskbar, and more.https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft/windows-11/no-an-ai-focused-windows-12-is-not-coming-this-year-false-report-gets-the-facts-completely-wrongIf they fix the worst aspects of Windows 11 before LTSC 2027, then maybe LTSC 2027 will be my last Windows until its EOL. Assuming they're even going to release an LTSC 2027. Otherwise I'll probably switch over to LTSC 2024 if I finally get hardware that lacks Windows 10 support.Linux is still an unusable buggy mess for a general-purpose PC, the recent Linus Tech Tips video confirmed it. Maybe by 2034 they'll at least finally drop X11 and switch over to Wayland.
>>108345125They have no idea. Microsoft literally makes more money from LinkedIn than consumer Windows, and both of these are minuscule revenue streams compared to enterprise sales.
>>108345013there wont be a Windows 12 its rebranded as Windows 365, cloud based only and subscription with a locked down version at a cheaper price
>>108345062>as garbage as 11 is, it's still not so badnormies are on androidwindows is down to 30% market share and a big lump of that is 10, 7 and XPIt is over.
>>108345243samefag and windiws 11 launched fice fucking years ago, it is the most disasterous version in MS history, They have not grown windows users at all, its stagnant and flatlining.Normies don;t want esktops or even laptops anymore they want mobiles and maybe tablets. Vast numbers of zoomers have never even used a mouse or windows
>>10834519510 is my ladt windows and then I'm going offline with personal computing and just using some piece of shit locked down tablet for the maybe 20 websites left I have to use, the internet is dying.
>>108345013Continuing to sell software subscriptions to corporations. Ever decreasing relevance in the consumer market, which is dying anyway.
>>108345226How the fuck would a cloud operating system work? Don't you need that shit to actually be on your hardware to boot?
>>108345013windows is based for shittifying itself so hard they made linux a solid alternative
>>108345259>They have not grown windows users at allOf course not, Windows market share has been going down for a decade or longer. I don't even mean compared to mobile, Windows has been bleeding users, mostly to Mac it seems and the trend is not stopping. I think they're down to like 70% market share at this point and it used to be over 90% back before the W8 release.
>>108345013Grim
>>108345360Have you never heard of a VDI?
>>108345374normies put desktps in the loft and forgot about them, now they've done the same with laptops and just stare at mobiles or tables, it's not share lost to apple, mostly android consumers just don't want shit with a keyboard anymore and after the recent component proce hikes pc building is dead too. Zoomers are NOT going to spend three grand on a gayming PC. That fad is over. Most of the corporate sales are SFF boxes for stuff like RDP and office 365windows reminds people of work, PCs too, the normies don;t want it at home, even fir brainley staceys mac book airs have not been a thing fior over a decade now, old boomers use tablets, zoomers use mobiles.
>>108345408No, it's literally share lost to Apple because that's what the statistics are counting. They do not include mobile phones in these statistics, understand? If you include phones then Windows isn't at 70%, it's more like 30%.
>>108345087Financial tell a lot of bullshit. True position of a company is known on imageboards
>>108345408I saw some zoomer post on X making fun of millennials for pulling out their “big screen laptop” anytime they have to make a big purchase. It’s over.
>>108345208It's crazy how much their own shit, from Xbox and gayming companies like Mohjang, blizzard and Zenimax to LinkedIn, Github and the whole microsoft and azure ecosystem. They are definition of a company too big to fail, I can see apple failing before Microsoft.
>>108345390I have actually not, what is that?
>>108345133>will start affecting normies.It won't affect them for shit, they would literally use Copilot OS if it ran MP games with Kernel Anti-cheats.Same with any Jew software like Adobe.
>>108345208>They have no idea. Microsoft literally makes more money from LinkedIn than consumer Windows, and both of these are minuscule revenue streams compared to enterprise sales.Microsoft also makes money from buying Minecoins in Minecraft, subscription software and services, charging you to rename Xbox gamertags and moreIt also track your data and sell it into third-party advertisers
>>108345450Virtual Desktop Infrastructure. It's basically how a lot of companies manage their user devices. Rather than having fat clients with a full OS install, they have thin clients with a minimal bootloader that offloads all of the Windows functions to a server. It obviously introduces shit like input latency and lag and is also entirely dependent on your network infrastructure. I've mostly seen it with Citrix. For companies, it's good because you can auto-deploy new images, updates etc automatically without having to run scripts to run updates.For consumers? Idk that shit would take endless amounts of data centers, especially with persistent desktops.
>>108345496what do you think they're going to do with all the datacenters they dont need anymore after ai, windows saas hosting
>>108345500I don't think so. There's no money to be made from the consumer market. If anything, they'd be turned into cloud hosting solutions for companies. Hell, they could turn them all into AWS and Azure hosts and rent them out to companies. That way you'd actually get an ROI.
The truth is obvious, it is not hidden but rather open to anyone who can see. Low-IQ GNUnix people can see but they cannot understand what they see. Only a chosen people can challenge the dominance.
>>108345087It's being propped up on b2b. Once boomers die (because they refuse to retire), the next gen is going to ditch microslop products for modern solutions. Microsoft will go bankrupt in 15 years.
>>108345013Windows 11's popularity is completely artificial, the number of people that own win 10 devices and actually bother to upgrade to 11 is abysmally low, it all comes from corporations and brand new devices, either they realize they're doing something wrong or normies get forced upgrades (downgrades) ad infinitum
>>108345013There are two options.A. They keep shitting themselves and Windows become literally unusable, which it almost already is.B. They open source it and let smart people fix it, and Windows is saved, it can even steal Android's market.
>>108345013They'll never care about consumer windows ever again because the company doesn't depend on its use and it's a shrinking market they're actually betting on disappearing.
>>108345419Thats EXACTLY what I said FFSNo Apple is not doing anything signifucant either>>108345243>windows is down to 30% market share and a big lump of that is 10, 7 and XP>It is over.Apple's walled garden is just as cancerous as Windows 11, it's just Apple gonsumers have always been retarded brand not value obsessed morons targeted by apple marketing who knows they are retards. But stacey does not want a macbook air anymore so its just Brad 'Tard' McFuck in marketing taking it down to starbucks in his sandals now
>>108345841They actually do but their current CEO is into cloud scams and short term bullshit thus milking the stagnant customer base and destoying what's left of the OS, especially UI. He's made cloud portal OS because he's a scamming twat.
>>108345626Two more decades!>>108345717Windows is down to something like 4% of Microsoft's revenue and probably doesn't even cover its own costs anymore. The company really doesn't care about the future of Windows anymore.
>>108345508Oh there is, there are still a billion computers out there but that's not somethinng a scammy retard like the CEO of MSFT can compete inn, much better to see how long he can scam SMEs and Corporates with utter shit like Azure and Entra and Office 365 and copilot until they give up and fuck off.
>>108345881>They actually doWhy? Please explain why Microsoft would give a shit about a product whose revenue is rapidly shrinking into nothing with that same product having increasing amounts of legacy overhead that makes it expensive to maintain?
>>108345891That's because the stupid bastards won;t sell an AD free version to gonsumers for 50 bucks because adware and spyware and cloud scamming is all the current CEO can think about
>>108345905Because SMEs and corporates don't want or need cloud slop either.
>>108345508Windows 365 is what you're thinking about. Microsoft has a hardware box called Link that is a thin client for corporate and government servers to provide Windows desktops to employees that is centrally controlled and administered. Dell and Asus have also released their own hardware for Windows 365. The days of installing a local copy of Windows onto a worker's machine are rapidly coming to an end.
>>108345013More AI, more subscriptions, more spyware, more azure datacenters
>>108345940Tbf I haven't really worked with Azure/Win365 that much. I know of it but never really implemented it or worked with it. It seems like a really expensive way to host a VDI service that could easily be deployed almost entirely local. I don't think I have seen any company so far that almost entirely relies on cloud computing/storage.
>>108345940They've bene goen for a while, since citrix and RDP and terminal services. I reality mosy cubicle machiens are really just thin clients alreday but they were remoting into AD corprate onsite servers not )ffice 265 Azure bullshit.A lot of corporates are VERY unhappy, they did the Azure move, got outages, got the prices jacked hard, got very unappy staff asking why is this so shit now can I have old excel back please and a lot of them are looking and going back to their own AD infrastructure. Office 365 is riddled with bugs far worse than any prior generation. It's been on a downhill slide since office 2007, the more of it that gets tied to remote cloud the worse it gets. The entire design is less secure and more vunerable. 'Free' windows was a massive mistake. 50$ windows would have bene unbeatable. Abandoning local computing power and trying to force everything to 'be cloud' is a a broken model. It won;t work for most companies and it won't work for games either when they try that. Balmer was bad but the current CEO is digging holes MSFT won;t be able to climb out of for short term milking of his customer base. Windows 11 was a disaster in the consumer space but you wnat to see the amount of win 11 lisecences that are actually being sold that are downgreaded to windows 10 in corporates? Hundreds of millions. The markets know it too, MSFT is down 20%.
>>108345992Oh a loyt got burned with it and are absolutely furious. The old saying you never got fired for buying MSFT is gone. The price jacking once they were onboarded did that and the outages
>>108346013Not surprised since I've literally never seen it implemented. Nothing some terminal servers or locally hosted VDIs couldn't handle. I'm more pissed about them trying to implement Entra/AzureAD into the regular ass local AD. Like bro, we don't need an always online MS account for our dipshit excel pencil pushers.
>>108346030Perfectly good AD infrastructre absolutely hosed by wan connections to entra. One of teh biggest problems with it even for the really big 250,000 plus companies is the support is ridiculously shit. The partner model is fundementally broken as well, they are just salesmen pimping false hopes and promises for the last 8 years . ERP saleman tier. All they had to do was charge a solid 50$ every few years for updates and leave out the adware and spyware on the consumer side and keep the perfectly fine AD infra and mail and database setups of corprates the fuck alone instead of trying to move SQL servers talking to legacy shit alone instead of insisting it had to go to Azure, They are about to break a ton more crap now they are trying to bury NTLM not realising a shit ton of com model critical stuff is still dependent on it. Not just what they provided was broekn and then they jacked prices but they keep making it worse and worse and breaking more crap they had no idea existed in the real world because at this point there is basically no channel of communication at all between either the consumer or business customer base and MSFT. They are so full of shit that they decided they would not even deal with copilot lics for places with 200 staff. Fully IBMing hardmode. Windows Windows AD, Exchange and SQL they are nothing and they have absolutely wrecked them and 90% of the software built on them. I'm semi retired but I get please help requests on this shit all the time and I just don't need the grief and legal disputes it's a legal minefield as bad as ERP used be. Azure is as dangerous to company turnover as SAP deployments used be
>>108345992Under the hood it's quite crude, It's AD authentication in a datacentre domain server which then is local to resources in a datacentre like exchage or whatever the fuck. Why the fuck corporates that ALREADY had resilent multisite mail and AD and databases got conned into this crap is just the lowest IQ on the board wins a slaesmen shouts the word cloud repeatedly, the dumbest fuck on the board shouts cloud repeatedly and the next thing is they have fucked their infrastructure have azure outages and then the price is jacked 25%. A lot of them are just buying win11 seats and 'downgrading' them and MSFT books them as Win11. Its beyond pathetic. That CEO has to go this year or MSFT is only going to last 10 years not 20.
>>108345940Given the number of jeets in MS accounting these days I would not be at all suprised if there was SEC scandal over their filings in a few years. Probably all come pouring out like a laxitive has been applied when the current CEO jumps into his escape pod and goes and buys calcutta
this is what happens when you put a jeet in charge who got to be a candidate by mumbling platitues about cloud and community and was only ever capable of short term ripoffs. Peop,e forget this was the cunt that killed physical media that microsoft itself sod only to setup a shabby online store to sell it to them again and then just went fuck it and shut that down as well because people were realising it was a broken mess as well. (Games for windows). Yes the very same jeet.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt_Uy59cK3kGates was fucked in the head by his marriage falling apart and having been thrown out of his own brain child. The jeet muttered platitutes and LO! microslop was born.
>>108345013Continuing the enshitification of the desktop is Microsoft's goal, they are all India the poop capital of the world
>>108346266>Peop,e forget this was the cunt that killed physical media that microsoft itself sod only to setup a shabby online store to sell it to them again and then just went fuck it and shut that down as well because people were realising it was a broken mess as well. (Games for windows). Yes the very same jeet.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12LDsYpbLO4https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Games_for_Windows_%E2%80%93_LiveThe Marketplace became non-functional in 2018 with purchased games no longer displaying and instead presenting an error saying "There was an error retrieving your purchase history. Please sign out and try again later" despite existing purchases being supposed to still be available to download.[53]The Games for Windows Marketplace client stopped logging in entirely in 2022 due to TLS 1.0 and 1.1 connections being no longer permitted for Xbox Live accounts to login and therefore presents a connection error when launching the program.[54] The marketplace however, was already non-functional since 2018.THE JEETS FIRST BIG SCAM AND HE DID IT VIA DUMPING AN UPDATE THAT CRIPPLED THE VERY MEDIA MICROSOFT SOLD AND THEN SETUP THIS DUMPSTER FIRE TO GET USERS TO REBUY IT AND THEN THAT WAS A FUCKING MESS SO HE SHUT THAT DOWNTHIS IS THE MAN IN CHARGE OF CLOUD AND AZURE.HE'S A FUCKING DISASTER AND HIS GHANDI ACT IS FUCKING SICKENING SHIT
>>108345013>What's the future for Microsoft Windows?It'll be the Western corpo and US GOV OS for a few more decades.
>>108345013the company i work at, went over to mac just to escape winslop 11personally i never installed 11, and never will.im fine dualbooting cachy/10 iot ltsc
>>108345013>Next windows get released>It's AI slop made>Worst sell month ever happens>Chaos among the suits followsThat's my guess
>>108346364the bugginess of Windows Crypto stack is insane. I ended up just moving to Win 2022 because of the TLS 1.0, 1.1 retardation baked into whatever .NET/C++ crap code.
>>108345013Copilot-powered agentic os in the near futureMicrosoft-branded linux distribution in the far future
>>108345013Hopefully bankruptcy
>>108345013ahahaha, future for Windows, that's cute
Forgotten by consumers and propped up by Enterprise alone if they don't get their shit together. Expect them to do something retarded like go after WINE for stealing the gamergoybucks and YouTubers away.
>>108345013>What's the future for Microsoft Windows?Whatever the fuck it is I think that Linux is the future of gaming. And I say this a Windows fan.
>>108346643>Linux is the future of gamingAnd it will run on Proton/Win32.
Probably like IBM. They invested so much in infrastructure, they're locked in whether they want it or not.But since globalisation seems to be on the wane and more home users and even firms are starting to value more self-hosting and digital autonomy, all that built infra could prove useless in the future. They'll cope with renting it to other megacorps who don't have their own.Or sell AI plans hosted on it.Obviously they're betting the house on AI slop keeping them relevant for ever and ever.
>>108346643There is no futire for gayming steam was and is cloud, online only and remote authentication you own nothing slop as much as azure is or a diskless playstation. In fact in its own way it was as much of a disaster for gaming as winndows 11 was for the desktop. That started with steam keys and you gobbled it up. Steam OS is a cloud portal device like Windows 11. Shite.
>>108346511They are falling apart at the seams now. >>108346423Apple is a cancerous cloud walled garden just like win 11 and they don;t make database server or an LDAP server or a mail server. They are consumer toys, an overpriced linux with an ugly logo on it.You see the problem with winpows 11 is cloud partal and the mcirosoft ID but that deos not mean that the apple ID and authenticate subscibe or the steam ID and authenticate is any better, in fact its the exact same disease whether you call it the apple store, google play store, steam or microsoft store, appleID microsoftID, googleID. Its all cloud portal slop and the death of privacy, ownership, security and personal computing and the internet. The only hope is that the ceo of microsoft drops dead of a heartattack and a viagra filled gates comes back to save personal computing but that won't happen. Its mainframes but worse now with added adware, spyware and subsciptions.
>>108346776>muh digital badit's just fucking data retard, the difference is that you can't legally sell your copylook at console drm and think whether you'd want pc physical to persist in that miserable state
>>108346648Sounds good to me, all the great games got made for it already. Given the state of the games industry, backwards compatibility is the most important thing.
>>108345013The trashheap.
>>108345940>that diagram Jesus. I deal with Azure at work and basically all the services are incredibly half-assed. I can't imagine being this ingrained to it.
>>108346629Can they even? I thought wine only depends on redist licensed stuff. I guess if the redistributable license requires "valid windows license" or something they could sue the people using it.
>>108346079How the fuck are you going to get rid of NTLM? kek. I still deal with software where even when you think kerberos should work, it somehow doesn't and the vendor selling the shitware you're deploying can't help you.
>>108346364sucha marvelous rant gramps! so what we gonna do now? get back to DOS basics with cooperative modular async runtime system or something? or just buying pop-corn and watching the slop fireworks explode? hehehe
i find windows super comfy but will unironically switch to ubuntu if you can’t use windows 12 without AI slop bothering you 24/7
>>108345428whats over? we’re still in our 30s/40s so still a few decades of products that will cater to uswhy do brainlets think that consumer products follow the same market behavior as media/social media? electronics in particular have always targeted 20-40males
>>108345013sloppy death, mac will take over everything, huawei os or some other android based os will be the poor version of macshit
>>108346643>>108346648And Windows will still be the best development platform for Linux gaming!
>>108347835If you haven't already you never will. You will just eat the slop.
>>108347835Windows works incredibly well, but of course on a board like /g/ populated largely by NEETs, they're going to skew to linux distros. Their 'job' is distrohopping, ricing, and doing everything through a web browser. Notice even the linux fans keep the discussions to a very low technical level, we're dealing with enthusiasts who don't really even look under the hood. Have you ever seen a linux thread of anons debating kernel source code?
