>China's BYD announced it's coming out with Blade Battery 2.0 in March>immediately its 5 flagship models will get it>by the end of 2026, 70% of their new refreshed models will have Blade Battery 2.0>40% energy density (210 Wh/kg vs. 150 Wh/kg)>60-70% range increase (1000km vs. 600km maximum)>12 minute charge from 20-80% at -20°C (impossible without warming with 1.0)>6-7 times faster charge (5 minutes vs 33 minutes from 20-80%)>33%+ cycle increase (>4000 vs ~3000)>15% cheaper to produce (further price decrease for every model)Has non-solid state battery technology reached its theoretical peak? Where we do go from here? I don't see how regular liquid batteries can get any better than this. How could you go faster than nearly a full charge within 5 minutes?
>>108346011It's still a lithium iron phosphate battery. They really want to move to sodium-ion (CATL working on that) to reduce reliance on lithium imports.
>>108346011No.
>1000km 621mi range>most ev getting about 4mi/kwh>155kwh battery size estimate>60% charge in 5 minutes ~100kwh>5,000kw charge rateWhat charge port are they using to achieve this? This is all bullshit and lies
>>108346065They announced this prior to the 'Two Sessions', it's a commie thing. Have to look good before the biggest event of the year.
>>108346033There's already enough lithium in batteries for a perfect cycle recapture. They're only still mining/refining/importing lithium because it's still cheaper at scale.It's kinda like how we already have enough aluminum cans in circulation, but we still make more of them instead of recycling 100% of them because of economics.Sodium batteries will never hit the energy density of lithium batteries. They're only good for stationary batteries, like for wind/solar farms.
>>108346011>>6-7 times faster charge (5 minutes>Summary Table>Metric Estimated Value>Total Battery Capacity ~150 kWh>Energy added (20-80%) 90 kWh>Required Charging Power 1,080 kW (1.08 MW)>Charge Rate 7.2C>Estimated Battery Weight ~714 kg>Conclusion>To meet the claim of a 5-minute charge for a 1,000 km range, the vehicle would need to pull over 1 Megawatt of power. While the battery chemistry (the 2nd gen Blade) might technically be able to receive that energy without catching fire, the bottleneck will be the charging grid. Very few locations on Earth currently have a charger capable of outputting 1,000+ kW for a single car.China has 1MW charging stations widespread? This is the real breaking news if so!
>>108346065It supports 8=10C charging.
>>108346098Does it support 33.33C charging, fuckass?Because that's what it takes to hit 100kwh in 5 minutes
>>108346089>10C charging (Megawatt Flash Charging stations) is being rolled out by BYD across China, primarily for their compatible passenger EVs. Key details from recent developments (as of 2025-2026 updates):BYD's rollout plans include building thousands of these stations nationwide>Initial announcements targeted over 2,000 Megawatt Flash Charging stations>Some sources mention ambitions for up to 20,000 ultra-fast stations (including collaborations), with thousands of dedicated megawatt-level ones.>By the end of 2025, around 1,000 were already operational>These stations are deployed across China, often in high-traffic areas, highways, urban centers, and partnered sites. Some include on-site energy storage (battery systems) to support the massive power drawApparently only available in megacities like Beijing/Shanghai/etc.
>>108346011>I don't see how regular liquid batteries can get any better than this.Cycle counts can always be improved. A battery that retains 95% capacity after 10-15 years of regular usage across various temperatures, fast and slow charging, deep discharge for long range trips etc. etc., would be objectively massively better than current tech.This is especially true because EV internals are much more long-lived than ICE internals, due to far fewer moving parts; afaik electric motors can last for like 500k-1M miles, while an ICE is considered old at 100k and the best japanese beaters would be considered ancient at 300k. And other than the motors there's not much that can wear out. Instead the massive and extremely expensive battery is the limiting factor for EV longevity right now.
>>108346011From who they stolen from?
why dont mods ban threads without link to the source of information
>>108346011>solid state/blade/edge [insert generic product]Everytime I see one if these names I instantly know it's hype and just a shitty product.
>>108346071>>108346011I drove on the Chinese highways (Shanghai -> Suzhou -> Nanjing -> Hangzhou) in January this year. Got a 智机LS6. The Good:>Beautiful design, it's a Model Y knockoff. >Excellent performance, very responsive, and good distance capability.>VERY comfortable, leather ventilated and massaging seats, several times. Sometimes when I felt tired during my trip I would retreat to the car just so I could get my back rubbed and nap. >The rear of the car has a little strip where you can send messages to whoever is tailing you. Mine had a little Contra game style animation which is hilariousThe Bad:>Autopilot model is trained on Chinese drivers (aggressive, bad peripheral vision, brakes too late for my comfort, nearly crashed into another car when exiting highway) >Service station EV charing area is often full during peak hours>Yoke controls, not a wheel, which is STUPID as fuck. if you need to reverse out of a parking spot or turn the wheels a lot it is a huge pain. I think this is a major design flaw.
Batteries aren't done until energy density significantly improves. The 1000km 150kWh battery pack will weigh nearly a ton. Drives like a boat, chews up the tires. Sounds good.
>>108346712Driven a G6 quite a lot the last half a year >Beautiful design, it's a Model Y knockoff.>Excellent performance, very responsive, and good distance capability.>VERY comfortable, leather ventilatedThis seem to be very universal.In the Xpeng G6's case, the annoyances would be the nagging features being poorly bolted on, Xcombo being a incomplete idea, acceleration and braking being set up to bite/jolt the car unless you press the pedal stair step by stair step, and a pretty retarded driver profile setup.
>>108346011>Has battery technology reached its peakObviously not dummy
>China claimsit's a lie just like anything out of china, they can only steal from the west they have never been able to do anything good themselves
Let's be real, it took way too long for battery technology to progress
>>108346712>Yoke controls, not a wheel, which is STUPID as fuck.A lot of cars do this and I hate it.
>>108346011>battery techFake, gay and fake and gay until PROVEN otherwise. China claims is not proof.
>>108347356Agreed that this design needs to be regulated out of existence, I heard Chinese traffic administration is forcing the auto manufacturers to use a standard wheel starting next year
>>108347338>>108347370i recommend you take your heads out of the sand, i saw over 20+ domestic auto brands during my trip to china and they all seemed pretty good. there is a reason why USA put up a tariff against them, they would absolutely eat Detroit's lunch
>>108347396>dude trust me bro I'm a battery fairyYeah that's great. Some retard claims a battery breakthrough at least once a day somewhere on earth, fuck off you gullible retard.
>>108347396You're a lying shill and China is a turd world shithole.
>>108347483ok buddy. have a nice day.
>>108347396It's pretty much universal truth that china and every single company in it lies all the time about everything. Claiming otherwise just means you're the kind of useful idiot the CCP loves.But honestly this applies to battery tech in general. There have been SO MANY fucking announcements from all over the world about some amazing new battery tech that will CHANGE THE WORLD and in the end it either never comes out (because "not commercially viable") or turns out to be trash and not a viable alternative to li-ion or even lifepo.So yes. Fake and gay until we actually see it in physical cars you can buy.
>>108347485I accept your concession
>>108346187>A battery that retains 95% capacity after 10-15 years of regular usage across various temperaturesI don't know if that's possible. It's like how we can't make HDDs last 15 years when it's constantly in use. Things just break down.
>>108347350Took a long time for solar panel technology to improve as well. We've almost reached the peak for those as well. We're wringing out the last, human possible, percentages out. The last bits have to do with costs and durability. The cells themselves are already so thin if you take off the glass you can blow them away. Solar panels are 70-80% by weight just glass.
>>108346011>6-7 times faster charge (5 minutes vs 33 minutes from 20-80%)That makes zero sense. Even current fast chargers require a huge amount of electricity and their own dedicated grids. Increasing that by 6-7 times would mean having an actual power plant next to the chargers with massive cables.What level of dystopian retardness is this? The last thing we need actual power plants inside our cities. fuck off chang.
>>108346011I'm excited for the chinese dashcam vids of these exploding
>>108347396>this isn't realAlmost entirely uttered by people who do not have Chinese EVs in their countries. Anybody who does can already see their capabilities for the past 2-3 years, with massive rollouts. This new battery will be in nearly all new BYD cars by the end of the year. Volumes are expected to reach 15 million cars outside of China in 2026 alone.
>>108347396Imagine buying any brand that isn't toyota, subaru, or volvo
>>108347631Have to keep waiting, since Israel has tons of BYDs and they've been getting missile struck every day with people inside, and the people instead aren't dead, nor the car on fire.
>>108347645>volvo
>>108346011>Has Battery Technology Reached Its Peak?no. AFAIU, they are still researching solid state battery>>108346065AFAIU, the numbers they give are peak charge, but real numbers are way lower than that. like 500-600kW for the MW chargersI'm no expert though.
>>108346065>>108347617changs don't understand that the best you can get for chargers in cities is 1kv. And even that is super rare.The problem with fast charging isn't that it's impossible to charge a car battery quickly with current technology, but how to do it quickly using relatively low voltage.
>>108347617>Increasing that by 6-7 times would mean having an actual power plant next to the chargers with massive cables.anon... have you ever heard of batteries? you can have your own 2MWh battery + charging system in your fucking house. they aren't that expensive either.t.did a bit of research.
>>108347749FAST CHARGE YOU NIGGER, FAST CHARGE. YOU NEED A MINI POWER-PLANT TO GENERATE SOO MUCH POWER IN SUCH A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.
>>108347768you charge the battery with solar panels during the day and discharge most of its charge during peak hours, dumbo
>>108346084but they last forever
>>108347817>much heavier than lithium batteries>way less energy density than lithium batteriesThey're only good for cars than have 200km maximum ranges for people who drive only within the city 99% of the time with a charge at home. Extremely small, light, vehicles that cost no more than $15k.
>>108347846why not use them to power car tracks
>>108346089Megawatt charging stations are getting more widespread with electric trucks in Europe and the American west coast. https://www.mcslocator.app/China has a different system but it shouldn't be lagging behind that much.
>>108347617>That makes zero sense.We been over this before, and it keeps repeating in the marketing mateiral.Charging 50kwh is very different when your car do 110wh/km then if you do 200wh/km.So if you go from 180kwh to 250kwh for the average charge curve, the car also spends 30% less, and the battery is larger, then the triple dip gets you those wrong numbers.
>>108346113single blade weights what 45kilo iirc
Imagine a technology that allows you to instantly charge up your vehicle. And imagine your energy storage gets lighter the more energy you have used up. This future is now. It makes the electric vehicles obsolete. I present you the combustion engine.
>>108346011China number one. they will make everything we need and it will be affordable. all they want is trade and shared prosperity. who is making trouble in the world really?
>>108347944>9>wow it's fucking nothing
>>108350102How much does a fully charged car battery weighs compared to when it's drained?Make ya think.
>>108350175It's tough to build megachargers, or hell, even regular chargers because certain people will just cut the cables and steal the copper inside.Places like Japan don't care for EVs, but China has thousands and is planning to build tens of thousands more.
>>108346011no. in the last 2 years, smartphones just got the silicon carbide battery that holds 60% more charge per volume compared to lithium based batteries
>>108351242>The technology first moved from laboratories to mass production in February 2023. >The Pioneer: The Honor Magic 5 Pro was the first commercial smartphone to feature a silicon-carbon battery>In the smartphone industry, silicon-carbon (Si-C) batteries are primarily manufactured by a few specialized Asian suppliers and adopted almost exclusively by Chinese brands as of early 2026. While the broader "silicon battery" market is growing rapidly—projected to reach $414 million to $834 million by 2028–2030—the smartphone-specific segment is currently a high-growth niche dominated by first-moversYou'd think with Si-C batteries everywhere for smartphones, they'd be worth more than a billion industry.
>>108351361The one downside I've read is that they degrade faster than lithium. But with the huge raw capacity increase, a 3 year old 25% degraded SiC battery still has more capacity than a brand new Li battery in the same volume
>>108346011No and not worth it Dont be fooled by the chink magic number
>>108351385>Dont be fooledkek we can't do it so nobody canwell done anon
>>108350175You've got to start with something.Milence for instance began with one charging station in late 2023 and now has over thirty operational with more added each month.
>>108351378They're also 15% more expensive. So they're more expensive, gives a ton more energy density, but with fewer recharge cycles.I can see why they're mostly in phones but not as much in EVs except high end models. Phone batteries can be cheaply replaced every 3-4 years, but for the average car buyer, it's probably something they can't afford, except richfags, so hence only high end premium models.
>>108346712I was an amateur racer for years and even I hate the yoke. Yeah I get why but fuck off the wheel is useful in the real world for any tight slow maneuver.
>>108346601They traveled to 2050 in a time machine (which was stolen from America btw) in order to steal the battery technology from America.
>>108346011China is building without lithium and they have a gel that makes their batteries not grow dendrites
