I'm a CS student and it's hard to accept the fact that I may have wasted 2 years taking CS classes all because the CS job market is currently dogshit and doesn't look like it will ever get better.I should've done electrical engineering but I'm 25 years old and starting over from scratch is fucked.
>>108346202>he did the meme degree for the money
>>108346202The fuck do you mean starting over from scratch? You have to take the same chemistry, physics, calculus/linear classes and programming and control systems in EE. If you're a junior in college you probably have to take like 4 classes from the first two years you missed to get an electrical engineering degree. You'll have to take thermodynamics and a bunch of circuit analysis classes. Magnetism. You literally have like 4 classes different at this point and they would just be some circuit ones right now
>>108346202Your CS job belongs to India saar
>>108346202Should have learned a real job that can't be outsourced or replaced by H1BsTruck driverElectricianPlumbingWeldingThe global economy sucks because the rich that run the show doesn't give a damn about anyone and will gladly throw you under the bus if it means bigger profit margins for you, hope you did not go too far into debt for that CS degree
>>108346202>You do CS because you want to earn money>I do CS because I want to make the world a better placeWe are not the same. Like who the fuck cares about money? NEET bucks are already enough to have a high end pc, enough food, a comfy room and you can just focus on your desires and not on fucking money, which isn't real anyway.
>>108346234>Truck driverSirs we are doing this job as well and causing many kindly road deaths
>>108346202as someone that spend a decade on a master in physics you haven't even started to fuck up yet anon trust me I know what a fuck up is. Just get a side job as a student you will have plenty of chances.
>>108346202A lot of people are thinking this, and some people dont even go into cs. Thus future market will have labour shortages (I dont think there are enough actually talented individuals in this field even now, inspite of tge market seeing it as saturated)
>>108346202if you're too retarded to know how to get a job in this market, you never would have made it in CSt went into CS purely for the money, and am doing great
>>108346202Don't worry. A CS degree was never a qualification for a job as a software developer.
>>108346234H1Bs can't do the job. They're doing a different job that's only superficially similar.
>>108346242>>108346295are you retarded? of course you go to college to make lots of money. What's the point of going to college if you won't lots money?
>>108346234An easy to meet job visa CAN absolutely flood the market in a more wealthy country with truck drivers, electricians, plumbers and welders. You just hope they're not going to do that too much.It's harder to outsource these, that's all there is to it. But then again IT/CS stuff also often is better not outsourced due to the wasted time of highly salaried positions or the entire staff of the company that tends to create.
>>108346234>Truck driverSaaaaaar>Electricianmeh>Plumbingew>Weldinglung cancer and blindness
>>108346242>>I do CS because I want to make the world a better placeAnon you have picked litterally the worst possible proffession if you want to make people's lives better. The entire software world works by promoting the ideas that have the most potential for exploitation. Even if you have good intentions, the only ideas you'll ever be able to work on will be used to deteriorate society in exchange for money sooner or later.If you want to improve the world you become an economist and research new policies to fix the downfall of the middle class and things like that, not a codefag.
>>108346202It's never fucked. People start over beyond their 30s. Depends what kind of school you go to. Post-seconday studies are often tailored for literal kids, but there are institutions for adults in reconversion.
>>108346459Economists? What the fuck am I reading. They are the embodiment of a profession who is getting hired only because government or companies are trying to optimize away other people's income without producing more of it want more efficient and predictable means to do it.Software offers tools, also to the middle class. The middle and lower classes just about always primarily benefited from tools they can get their hands on. Sometimes from weapons. It's their leverage AND what directly increases productivity if existing employers try to shaft them too hard and they start their own companies.
>>108346407Up until recently, the dominant philosophy in the west was that you should pursue a career you like because an average income would already give you a life so comfortable that sacrificing your time and interests to make more money beyond that point was not worth it.This philosophy is going extinct because the middle class lifestyle is getting nuked and the west is getting filled with third worlders and east asians from non-christian cultures that are obsessed with money.
>>108346492This is just copium. The peak of the middle and working class lifestyle happened before software even became widespread and software and tech in general since then have contributed more towards the decline than against it. The world could revert back to the technology of the 90s and absolutely nothing of actual societal value would be lost.
>>108346242>NEET bucks are already enough to have a high end pc, enough food, a comfy room and you can just focus on your desires and not on fucking moneytsmt. I have never understood why would anyone need more to be happy and/or productive
>>108346529The 90s had almost any type of software already minus some of the AI type software which indeed again is useful if it's in the actual hands of the lower / middle class.The mechanisms by which somewhat less of these tools now go to the lower and middle class despite ever more enormous amounts of computer hardware being produced are of course strongly related to government, economists, bankers, management.
>he took CS when he's not indian
>>108346407did you misread my post? i also went into CS purely for the money
>>108346226>MagnetismOh no, not the cross product and the dot product. How will OP ever be able to understand something so complex?
>>108346605I would like to buy an underground concrete dome house buried under a hill with a south facing greenhouse window and passive cooling, water collection in cisterns, a steel barn, greenhouses, gardens, chickens, rabbits, and multiple cottages built from large sheds for my family to live on the same land or more concrete houses if they want to pay to build those. I would like this in a 0 state property tax location and to have an enormous data hoarding server with fiber or cat8 delivering access to it to the cottages so everybody has a extensive library of music, movies, television, audiobooks, ebooks and to then homeschool my children preferably as a co-op with other family members and likeminded neighbors. I would also like to trade in cash or security crypto only while receiving welfare and other entitlement scams and contributing as little as possible to the state. I want the barn to have a complete wood, metal/machine/auto shop as well as textile and leather work stations with CNC router, plasma cutter, laser engraver, cnc milling machine, 3d printer (without bamboo telemetry). I want quality used tools if possible for my majors like jointer and planer. All of this would cost over $1M even with cost cutting and diy. Location should be 1 hour from any major town or city.
>>108346226AI will replace engineering too, retard.
>>108347116AI works well for closed systems much like a chess computer. It can't test in the real world where a slight alloy fuckup cause corrosion and complete failure.
>>108347103yeah just put the fries in the bag bro
>>108346234>He thinks H1Bs aren't doing plumbing jobstheir entire country is a sewer how long do. you think this trade is going to last?
im thinking about going back to college for chemistry. Thoughts?I mean at least I can fallback to making LSD or fentanyl
>>108347103you can buy abandoned missile silos for cheap-ish
>>108348089Chemical engineering is a great field
>>108346202you could just like code still you know? yeah sure get a job flipping burgers or work in a warehouse but in your spare time you can code whatever you want on any hardware you want and just keeping on fucking on
>>108346202Fiish what you started. You can always do a masters in something completely different.
>>108346226I did EE eng back in the 90s and I'm pretty avergae, it was way harder than my computer science degress>>108346202Any degree is better than no degree. No degree means you are vegtable
>>108348094nah you can't they are flooded pits full of asbestos and rust
>>108347103I did that. I wound up living in complete isolation in a coverted lead zinc mine for most of a decade 100M+ underground. I'm glad I did it.
>>108347116ee is the safest stem field around, jackass
>>108350567you mean being an electrician? you mean EE is the safest because you can fall back to being an electrician?why not just become a fucking electrician
I don't know why cslets aren't pivoting as hard they can into roboticsIt's the only thing that can employ them for a decade at least
>>108346202Just become an independent dev and code and release your own app. I mean you have the skills, so why do you want to work for some shitty company, make millions for the ceo and the shareholders while getting paid peanuts.
>>108346202The market is dogshit because there's a recession. AI will do damage, but that damage has yet to be actually seen. The main issue right now is outsourcing and visa workers in tech. i.e. the Jeets being leaches during shitty job market conditions.
>>108350608there's an app for thatactually theres like 4000 apps for that
>>108346202Starting my degree soon, I can't wait.
>>108350608you're about 15 years too late to the saas party. there was a glimpse of opportunity to make the "X but with AI" but that is now saturated as well
>>108346407I'm studying CS mainly because developing software is rewarding and sometimes fun to me
>>108346202start your own company, for real. pick a product and do it for cheaper than others. how it works in all industries, and how you get started.
