I hate the shitty threads you people make. I want to share what has opened my eyes with other novices like me who are trying to leave Winslop 11.This thread is supposed to put you on the right track to making your own decision, after reading this thread the fog of Linux won't be there anymore, you will know what you want and you will find the distro that is for you.> 1. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/Linux_Distribution_Timeline.svgThis image includes all Linux distros in existence, and how they fork from original parent linux systems. Studying this image alone, is going to help you see through idiotic arguments like "mint is better" or "go with arch" or "go with pop_os"> 2. Distros are irrelevant, choice #1 that you must make is what family Linux do you want.If you studied image below, you will see there distinct few families of Linux. > SlackwareThis is a shitty family of linuxes, completely irrelevant to you, if you are reading this thread as a beginner, you should not bother installing this for anything, on anything.
>>108359061linux mint
> DebianThis is the distribution family that you will likely land on. It includes all those distributions like the abandoned SteamOS (new steamOS V2 (not in the image from section 1 for some reason) is part of Arch Linux family, more on it later). This distribution is manically stable because it is then used on infrastructure servers, mission important computers, it undergoes months of integration testing's to ensure nothing breaks. So the only negative thing is that some newer packages might exist, they might even be compatible, but because they have not been integration tested, you will have to wait for a few months to get that update. This means you might have to wait a bit longer for the drivers updates etc.It includes many super popular distributions, like Parrot (hacking distrol like Kali), also Kali, RaspberryPi OS, PROXMOX. However, the crown jewel of Debian is Ubuntu, Ubuntu is so successful and popular due to stability usability, support, compatibility that it has exploded into it's own massive subgroup of distros that take Ubuntu's every single update and repackage it into: Mint OS, POP!_OS, elementary OS, Pear OS, and probably a few others. > Fedora (RedHat Enterprise Linux `RHEL`)Today, fedora appears to be the cutting edge Linux. It is a little less stable than Debian, but it is still extremely stable, and the latest packages are not lagged behind as much as in Debian universe. I think if you are coming from shitty Windows, this is probably a very good middleground to land in, I doubt it is less stable than Windows. This means drivers come out more often. Do your own research on this one because its definitely a good candidate.It includes popular sub-distros like:Bazzite OS (popular for gaming) CentOSORACLE LinuxQubesOS
> Arch LinuxRaw dogging Arch is pretty retarded, it is an enthusiast distribution, it uses something called rolling updates, and they just let you install anything and everything latest. The problem with that is every time you update, something mission critical will break, for many /g/ users whos only usecase for linux is to show off their gay pride neofetch, and their mental illness 10-keyless keyboard without F-keys that they call "minimalist". Raw Arch selling point is that you build your own OS, the issue with that is, Ubuntu has a whole team that ensures that everything that is installed will work, nothing is going to crash, again, mission critical, but with raw arch linux - that burden is on YOU. If you are under 18, this is a perfect distribution for you, but if you are an adult, then treat Archlinux as a hobby, not a serious contender for serious applications.What about SteamOS, Manjaro etc.These are Arch-based sub-distros, these are fine, because they have teams of people dedicated to taking the stripped down Archlinux, and they make it better, they make it usable, so the burden of making it work is taken away from you and you just get to enjoy the minimally bloated system.> Desktop Environment - this is the visual GUI part, you see how windows XP looks different to Windows 11 and how it looks different to macOS, this is basically what environment is, when you install arch you must decide which you get, if you get KDE your environment will look like complete garbage from 20 years ago, if you get GNOME you will get a very frustrating interface that makes no real sense for productivity, but if you get Ubuntu with GNOME then Ubuntu will have used engineers to tune GNOME and make it actually very good and usable. Use online virtual linux to see which feels best.> Debian (Ubuntu) Vs. Fedora Vs. ArchThis is what you have to choose from, for me it's very clearly between Fedora and Ubuntu, one of those distros or subdistros is going to be my choice.
>SteamOS Proton is what makes SteamOS a gaming OS, if you want to game on Ubuntu, you will be able to with Proton. I am not sure if Proton has a competitor yet, I have personally not gone that far. But what you want is supported video card graphics drivers, and proton, both of those means you can game.If you need windows applications like excel, you can fire up a virtual windows, with passthrough to a NAS drive or local drive with your excel sheets. Sort of like reverse-WSL how we have ubuntu running on windows at all times in windows linux subsystem
>>108359093>The problem with that is every time you update, something mission critical will break>if you get KDE your environment will look like complete garbage from 20 years ago>Ubuntu will have used engineers to tune GNOME and make it actually very good and usableQuit spreading lies, all of these are wrong.
>>108359148maybe so, but i am trying to drive the point across to someone who is new to linux, they need to land on something stable and usable instead of fucking around with arch and going back to winslopbut1. im right2. kde looks like complete shit out of the box, and you will spend weeks especially if you are new to try to make it look less shitty 3. how is that lies, apart from shitty window tiling, ubuntu's gnome is very good much better than raw gnome where taskmanager looks like fucking Windows 8.1 start menu, how stupid is that, they hated it on windows 8.1 but they love it when its on GNOME
>>108359061I saw Chris Titus slopping a draft of an article together about this:https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/website/blob/master/content/posts/2026/top-linux-distros.mdWhat do you think about his choices?
>>108359202Buy an Ad, Chris.
>>108359202I could not care less, not once in my slop of a thread did I name the best distribution, I think that is the most retarded thing you can do is tell someone which distro to use, its a personal decision based on the philosophy, usecase, comfort, stability. If you read this thread, you will be able to sit down and do a super focused search and narrow it down to top 3 distros, then try them out in virtual environment online or your own live image or VM, and make the switch
I just moved from windows to CachyOS and I thought it works fine. No problem running or installing anything but this one obscure software package I use for work where I had to learn to edit the PKGBUILD
>>108359201>1. im rightI only get breakages when I don't update for a month or more, and even then it's just the keyring.>2. kde looks like complete shit out of the box, and you will spend weeks especially if you are new to try to make it look less shitty I've changed only three settings related to appearance: disabling animations, making the taskbar not float, and the default fonts. The defaults are almost completely fine, those three tweaks are just because of my niche taste.>3. how is that liesUbuntu's gnome is still unusable. It might be better than stock, but it's still awful.
>>108359061>https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/Linux_Distribution_Timeline.svgNeat. I landed on Flatcar Container Linux and I'm going to try it out tomorrow.
Great thread, op. I've used ubuntu for 14 years but I wouldn't recommend it to newcomers. It's a business distro like fedora, which means it comes with things like snapcraft that home users don't need.Mint is best for general home use. You can run office in edge, or use proton to install windows apps, or install hundreds of applications from repos, packaged as .deb files, or from flathub. I like flatpak much more than snap.If you're interested in the commercial side of things, use fedora or ubuntu.If you want a gamer os, use cachyos. Kde has a real gamer look and feel.I love gnome though, and the gnome variants like cinnamon are good.
Has red hat made a statement about the age verification stuff yet? I imagine they will comply with it. I'm interested in trying Fedora is why I ask
>>108359061Unironically, Arch. You're going to waste some time tinkering with things and break things at the beginning so why not get it over with.
>>108359243>CachyOSThat's equivalent to Manjaro, subset of Arch, should be fine>>108359254>Gentoo Sorry forgot to even mention Gentoo family, but i know very little about it, if not trolling then do tell how it works out. I use containers, but for now its docker and WSL on winslop 11.>>108359372Cudos! yeah for me I am 70% leaning toward Ubuntu since I've used it for 3 years as WSL for my machine learning project on Windows and I really like it, although it's headless and i just X11 some apps I need.>>108359610if the law requirement passes, they will comply>>108359620like I said, it really falls on your priorities, my personality needs something that just works, if something doesn't i get pissed off, if something in my project doesnt work I need to know that its not something in the background fucking it up, I cannot take that risk for my own mental health
Good thread. I recommend Fedora KDE. The balance of stability and updated software is great. Best bang for the buck for me personally.
>>108359610None of the big corporations are likely going to fight that, they might even be in on it if the fact Meta is behind that shit is anything to go by.The only business that has said anything about it so far is System76, and only because it fucks them over the most compared to Canonical and RH.
I'm not sure if you're being paid by apple, microsoft, or just a fucking retard, but regardless buy an ad.
>>108359061Is that you linus?
>>108359061I looked at the image and I conclude you have the 'tism
>>108359061Let's make it easy. ID yourself in the following categories and then select one of the distros from that category. >I like to tinker and keane new shit. I have some decent tech skills already. I can read and follow instructions.1. LFS2. Gentoo3. Arch>I'm a retard and lazy. I don't want to read or follow instructions. I just to get away from Windows and play muh vydia1. Nobara2. CachyOS3. Mint4. Pop5. Ubuntu >I fancy myself as a dev who does serious work and don't have time to constantly deal with bullshit 1. Fedora 2. SuSe>I'm that kid from way back in high school who listened to shitty bands no one heard of because I thought it made me look cool. Now I still live in the 90s and can't let go of the past 1.Slackware >I'm an "expert" tech e-celeb who can't read and intentionally fucks up Linux installs for clicks and views and for a pay check1. Stick with Windows >I'm an absolute techlets who doesn't even know what an OS is. I like being controlled and told what to do by cooperations. I'm a self-admitted sheepbrained who easily falls for FOTM and FOMO marketing memes.1. AppleThere you go, it's all just that simple
I feel like you fags put too much effort in shit that doesn't matter. I've been using the same distro for years, choosing took like 20 minutes. The only thing that got me for a bit was the whole DE thing until I just said fuck it and picked a wm instead when I realized I don't need a DE
