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>paying for a 1st gen product before Apple upgrades it to a much better value with better IO, processor, ports, etc.
Why?
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>>108359073
>be me
>not poor
>buy shiny thing when i want
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>>108359073
some people just do not give a shit
and they cant be helped
and it's best to let them learn (or not)
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>>108359073
You will never be a pro gamer with attitude like that
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>>108359073
Simple:
>Be brainwashed every day by ads and influencers paid to pretend that Apple products are the best.
>Hear people saying their $3000 macbookpro is fine.
>See this $599 literal scam
>Be tricked into thinking it will be the same as the macbookpro you heard about.
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>>108359150
its not the macbook pro but its the same high quality you'd find in a macbook pro at a affordable price point, ok?
Apple's doing good work through this one, it is affordablely price, great specs and standards for the hardware, nice screen, and perfect for anyone.
Its the same macbook branding, so yes it is the same high quality you would expect from it, just affordable and for anyone.
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>>108359078
Sounds gay. Why buy the beta version?
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>>108359078
so you get the new M5 Max MBP yet?
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>>108359078
So what laptop do you have now?
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>>108359073
I really don't get the hate. It's just a thing that's meant to compete with high end Chromebooks and low end laptops. It does very well at that and it's not trying to be anything else.
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>>108359184
its first so alpha. you'll get the third one, cuck version.
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>>108359207
'high end' Chromebooks have 16GB RAM
how much RAM has this piece of trash got then?
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>>108359221
the neo comes with a real OS instead of red green and blue roblox browser trash
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>>108359221
My chromebook has 4GB and it's enough for a dozen browser tabs and gaming. Linux Mint was pretty bad with ram but I replaced it with Arch
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>>108359221
No one who unironically uses Chromebooks knows how much ram it's got in it.

Hell, I don't even know how much ram is in mine, It just works which is what the target demographic wants.
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WHEN WILL THE SHILLING STOP, i'm tired bros
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>>108359073
The target demographic for the MacBook neo is people who look at Macbooks and go " oooooooooo a macbooooook, how exotic"which is a lot of people and it's the perfect machine for them.
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>>108359290
What if it's just people that have an iPhone that works for everything they do, but it's their phone and the screen is too small?
What if they just want to do all the same stuff they do on their phone but on a laptop?
You guys are acting like this is a step in the wrong direction
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>>108359296
I'm not hating on the neo?
I think it's a great cheap laptop killer.
The kind of people who want a laptop to do phone stuff with are exactly the kind of people to oogle Macbooks at a coffee shop.
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>>108359073
Its just unnecessary. Most people who'll use it already have an iPhone with the same or better specs. Apple should just make their phones compatible with usb-c docking and people will only need one actual SoC to do their computing on any screen.
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>>108359290
>macbooooook, how exotic
thats the point tho
macbooks v. quickly stop being 'exotic' when they get corner cut and flogged 'pile 'em high' cheap, tarnishing the brand. I can understand the logic behind a cheap crap psuedo-laptop - moar! profitz for the Gay Beancounter & Co - but not abusing the 'macbook' name on this piece of trash. Its textbook enshittification and shekel grubbery from a company who ran out of ideas and vision long ago.
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>>108359073
I steer people towards used M-series Air/Pro for about the same cost, but for whatever reason people really want what's new even if it isn't better.
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>>108359315
>Aesthetics
Why are you trying to oversimplify the situation?
It's a laptop with a phone processor in an full aluminum housing with a good display at an accessable price.
This is a step in the right direction.
Chromebooks are the opposite and are a step in the wrong direction.
Apple can further go on this direction and give us the option for a full OS on an iPad next. They likely won't however the Neo is a step in that direction.
Also, windows will have to seriously assess their situation with Qualcomm
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>>108359353
nobody wants to waste their time
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>>108359073
If nobody buys the 1st gen product then there will never be future generations.
SOMEONE has to buy it if you want them to keep making more.
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>>108359073
>he boughted a desktop in the 90s for $2k and it could barely run quake
>my mini pc is like 50x more capable and cost $250
retards always waste their money instead of waitfagging, baka my head
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>>108359073
>caring about the inconsequential decisions other people make
Why?
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>>108359653
being interested in tech used to be cool, now it's just karens and normies reeeing into the abyss for internet brownie points from people who share the same random baseless opinion
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Have you guys seen the internals yet? It’s repairable af and can edit 4K video. $599. I’d be all over this for college if I were going today. It’s excellent.
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>>108359073
i bought an m1 air on release. it still works
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>>108359073
>Why?
Because this is the first time in 20 years that Apple made a laptop that wasn't a boring grey/beige/black color.
And they will probably go back to making everything boring grey/beige/black again by v2.
So now or never. I bet the citron/pink models outsell the boring shit 3 to 1.
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>>108359818
You’re the same fag in every Mac threads and you’re the same fag that thinks jeets can afford them.
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>>108359828
Literally no u. Jeets are number 1 apple fans.
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>>108359073
Sometimes you just need something and the right product drops at the right time.
Sometimes you don't have the luxury to wait a whole year because "maybe" a better product will replace it.
You just fucking need It now, often because the thing you owned before stopped working and you need a replacement.

Most people don't buy computers or actually useful tech in general for no purpose.
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>>108359073
14 years later, yellow is back on the menu
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>>108359945
Nah, more color options is back in style, which is good.
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>>108359969
No, they're all on Windows and Android.
You know, the two major jeet-led tech companies.
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>>108359818
>soldered SSD/RAM/WLAN
>doesnt exist on 99% of PCs
This line needs an update to remove RAM, soldered RAM has become common-ish in laptops.
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>>108359073
Unironically a great everyman device if it was 12gb ram
as is I’d rather buy used macbook air m4 for the same price
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>>108359322
>"Now you can have a shitty interface and lack of freedom on larger screen!"
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>>108359073
Everyone's saying it's a good deal for medium heavy creative work as long as you have an edu address
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>>108359993
Nice numbers. Too bad they're made up.
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>>108359958
he's literally saving people from bad investments and you're stuck thinking about Indian men?
get a grip
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>>108359073
because it's the best laptop at that price range
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>>108359073
brother it's freaking $500. that's literally peanuts. it is going to last you 3 to 5 years easily.
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>>108359073
The cope argument "it's not made for you" is starting to make sense to me
They're even going on social media trying to market to dumb kids
It's always intended to be a device for the education market, replacing the base iPad that's a bit useless unless you own an Apple Pencil or attach a keyboard to it
The poors who were attracted by the price tag, expecting MacBook Pro specs and the critics who are shitting on this device with the same mindset just don't get it
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>>108360163
>it is going to last you 3 to 5 years easily.
lolno
that trash is already under specced, by anyones definition.
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>>108359073
Wow a macbook for the price of a phone
Incredible value proposition
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>>108360262
phones have got 12GB of RAM
thats 50% more than the N_o
maybe people should JUST buy a 16GB (at least!) N_o instead, then they wouldn't have an outdated machine that they could at least open a few browser tabs at once and stuff?
What?
They CAN'T?!
>oh.
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>>108360009
this, but unironically
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>>108359073
>first gen
Anon, it's a laptop. Apple has been making them for decades. The M1 MacBook Air was also "1st gen" but no one is complaining about issues specific to it.
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>Check price in euroland
>699€
Yeah I don't know what the point is. At least it should have been 16GB. I've used a macbook air (M3) with 8GB and it's just sluggish shit. Why would people pay 699 europoors on this shit? It even looks ugly like a laptop for children.
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>>108360432
technically, the M2 Air got magsafe back, which sux for M1 owners where it was deleted.
I'd laugh if Neo2 gets magsafe.
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>>108359207
>I really don't get the hate.
where did OP hate?
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>>108359073
>but next gen will be better!
you will never be able to "happily" buy anything with such mindset. The version after that, and the following version will always be better. You will never feel confident, you will never feel secure, and will never be happy.
>but I don't want to waste money
yeah exactly. If you're such a poorfag where few hundred dollars or thousands make you so insecure of your purchase, you will never understand.
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>>108359073
this guy looks like he speeds in school zones in his sports car
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>>108360068
seethe, cope, dilate
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>>108360623
hey schizo, please post the fake benchmark you manually edited to add a non existent Apple product by mistake in the other thread last time it was so funny
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>>108360619
And what is this supposed to be? It doesn't even say who made that chart, let alone a link to actual data.
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>>108360619
Now consider the price of an iphone, the price of an android chinkphone and average salary in india. Those shitnigs go into debt just to get a blue bubble.
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>>108359073
>8 gigs unified
turbo yikes at that price, yikes in general
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>>108360632
nigga, learn some punctuation
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>>108360637
lol, keep malding
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>muh IO
>muh ports
cope
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>>108359078
So you're retarded.
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>>108360673
>wealthier countries can afford more expensive toys
I am shocked.
Jeets are iphone senpaitachi in the same way real people are f1 fans. How many of them can afford to take one for a spin? Not that many. Curry niggers can't stop glazing apple online wherever they are.
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I'm considering it. I've never owned a macbook before but have enjoyed borrowing other people's before, and I am coincidentally looking to buy a new laptop right now.
I haven't owned a halfway decent laptop since the Thinkpad X220 I bought fifteen years ago. I bought some cheap piece of shit from HP for a couple hundred bucks last year to replace it and regret doing so.
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>>108360862
... and after ten minutes of search engineing, it seems like I may as well just save a couple hundred bucks and buy an M1 macbook air with 16gb of ram.
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>>108360913
Why not grab an M1 Pro?
You get something that shits on the neo
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>>108360945
Hmm, maybe. I don't really need something that completely shits on it though, and when I've seen pros and airs side by side irl in the past I've usually preferred the airs
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>>108359073
What make you think the second gen would be better?
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>>108360975
ChromeOS is garbage though, what can you even do on it? Web browsing? Playing slay the spire? That about it?
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>>108360009
So like with iPads
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I think the Neo only has 8GB because that's what the A18 Pro had and the DRAM is integrated with the chip (not the die). Apple probably had a lot of A18 Pro chips just laying around and they needed to put them into something. They couldn't put it in iPads because the base model is too cheap to accomodate A18 Pro in it and the Airs and Pros use M series chips. They also couldn't put it in an SE because that product line is dead.
I don't think you can expect a refresh of the Neo in any foreseeable future. iPhone 17 series sold too well for Apple to have a ton of A19 Pros with 12GB of memory just laying around and they're not using M chips for the Neo. They probably think 8GB is enough because the Neo is meant for basic stuff like web browsing, editing some documents and education. At $499 it's a far better deal than some shitty Chromebook.
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>>108360962
Not him, but there's this common phenomenon in tech. The first gen of a new product often is basically a beta version, with issues that wouldn't be hard to fix, but either got overlooked, or were ignored to focus on more important issues before launch date. Second gen then (usually) fixes these low-hanging fruit, in additional to your typical generational upgrades.
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>>108360975
Holy shit the 365 needs twice the battery size to match the Neo and is slower, too. What a pathetic showing from AMD.
Panther Lake on the other hand is really impressive. It seems like not only Intel but also it's foundries are back seeing how good Intel 18A is.
Either way you're a retarded niggerfaggot because you're comparing the Neo to notebooks that cost as much as the Pro. Yeah no shit a $500 budget device has to make concessions that a $1500 Winjeet ewaste doesn't.
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>>108361011
>posting fake benchmarks
I accept your concession.
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>>108361032
does this also look like a fake benchmark to you?
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>>108361000
yeah the neo is probably going to be like a 4-5 year thing that follows when schools are most likely to upgrade their devices. who knows. or maybe it will become the SE where its' just w/e parts are left over every year or 2. it just depends on how much in extra parts they have i guess.
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>>108359958
Yup just keep reporting the spamming troll impoverished thirdie.
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>>108360632
Kek
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>>108360637
Lol it doesn't understand charts a 6th grader can analyze and understand
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>>108359073
This is probably the best laptop you can recommend to a normie. It will probably start with 12 gb of ram next year and be a good pick for autists too
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>>108360604
you post these for free
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>>108359207

Autistic people don’t like it when their routine is disrupted. Neo disrupts a lot of accepted principles when it comes to computers. Neo is like introducing a Redditor to conservative thought.

>8GB RAM, wait til the next model, etc.
They only use Windows/Linux and can’t fathom anything less than 16. So why try?

>Repairable
Apple uses glue and tape everywhere. It’s not like them to make something repairable.

>I need to play Cyberpunk on Ultra settings with the hardware on the device
Play them on your PC. MacBooks are for getting shit done. Writing, Composing music, Editing video, side browser etc. It’s okay to use one device to do one thing and another device to do other things.

>macOS
Let’s just give them this one. An autistic person isn’t going to be able to find value in Garageband, Final Cut and the like. They’ll be too busy talking about “alternative softwares on Linux that do the same thing.” Yep, because buying Cola at the local dollar tree is the same thing as a Coke from a vending machine. Gotcha.
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>>108360009
>>108360999
That's software dependent, not hardware.
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>>108360962
new iphone pro chip starts at 12gb ram, assuming they use the pro variant again
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Anons, do I get MacBook Pro with the M5 Pro or the M5 Max chip? I need some kind of balance between the battery life and performance, but I don't know which of these to choose. To be more specific, whenever Apple proposes two options of the chip for the Pro or the Max, I'm talking about the better option of two.
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>>108363064
what are you doing with it?
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>>108363093
Daily tasks (nothing intensive), software development, potentially some drawing and music production, but it's just a hobby to me, not anything serious. Might try to get into 3D modeling and animation, but that might be a pipe dream.
>why not M5 base
I want two fans tbhon
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>>108363093
>>108363139
Oh and I want the 14-inch chassis, it has a smaller battery though
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>>108359689
It's easily disassembled and the screen, keyboard, and battery can be replaced which is good but the motherboard is basically a single board computer with non-serviceable parts.
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>>108363139
might as well just get the pro and make sure you have enough RAM since you don't actually need the max
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>>108363149
M5 Pro. The max would eat the battery like mad and is unnecessary. Honestly the M5 Pro is a bit overkill as well but eh it’s your money not mine.
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>>108363164
What is the Max chip actually for though, video editing?
>>108363168
Would latest MacBook Air work by any chance?
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>>108363188
3D, AI, Serious video editing etc.
You could probably get by with the M5 Air if you don't need the extra ports/better screen
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>>108363188
>I want two fans tbhon
The Air doesn't have air cooling.
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>>108363193
Would it be OK to attempt any kind of 3D modeling and 3D animation on M5 Pro at all? Or is it better to not get into it (at leas on the laptop)?
>>108363242
Well I know obviously, I mean that if there's a fan at all, I kinda want two fans, although it's a weird thing to focus on, but that's the original reason I got upsold to a Pro chip in the first place
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>>108363139
youd definitely know if you needed the max. Its just more ram with also more memory bandwidth, and more gpu cores and neural accelerators. Like for "AI" and video editing stuff. CPU is the same. Pro and max have fans and are for long sustained workload. If nothing intensive then you dont need more than the Air m4/5. PRO models are for people making a lot of money with their computer. It's a business expense to them where time is money--finishing exports 5 minutes faster adds up over an entire year. Air is more of a nice general use personal computer
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>>108363255
>real work
>crapple curryjeet garbage
pick one
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>>108359073
>be poor and stupid
>see new fashion
>get shilled like 2nd coming of jesus, every single shill even uses exact same lines
>reinforcement by repetition
>monkey sees, monkey buys
many such cases.
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>>108361740
The comment you're replying to didn't even mention the data itself. Only that there are no links or even names of whoever supposedly gathered this data. Every bozo can make a chart with bogus data. Learn to read before casting shade.
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with mac, you win!
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>>108365292
nice
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>need a laptop now
>why not buy future laptop?
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>>108365955
very few people need a laptop now
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>>108359078
>be me
>do not boughted
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>>108363188
the air has much lower rated battery life, I got the base macbook pro for similar a workflow
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there is no equivalent to macs

macs have:
>soldered SSD/RAM/WLAN
doesnt exist on 99% of PCs
>when pajeetOS runs out of RAM it swapfile rapes the SSD to death within 3 years
doesnt exist on 99% of PCs
>when the SSD dies it bricks your entire currybook because the EFI is stored on the soldered SSD to save $0.05 on a dedicated chip
doesnt exist on 99% of PCs
>components serial numbered and tied to the motherboard to prevent repair and replacement (including battery)
doesnt exist on 99% of PCs
>riveted keyboard that requires total destruction of the chassis to replace
doesnt exist on 99% of PCs
>flexgate cables that are so brittle they crack from opening your screen past 90 degrees more than 2 dozen times
doesnt exist on 99% of PCs
>screens so fucking shit they have over 90ms response times (essentially 10Hz)
doesnt exist on 99% of PCs
>screen made from pajeet trash glass that cracks from temperature change in seasons or tape over the iBotnet webcam
doesnt exist on 99% of PCs
>so fire and explosion prone the FAA have banned them from all flights
doesnt exist on 99% of PCs
>uses phone CPU that's so shit it gets destroyed by decade old i3s from 2017 and can only "compete" by cheating at benchmarks in extreme edge cases with hardware accelerators
doesnt exist on 99% of PCs
>curryniggers at apploo get so full of sniffing their own currynigger silicon shit they ship currybooks with no fans and they run so hot they melt the keyboard keys
doesnt exist on 99% of PCs

>keyboards with 63.5% failure rate
unheard of on PCs, and yet you curryniggers defend it with "jus werx fer me!"
just because you're in the 36.5% survivor group doesn't make your currynigger trash any good
this list goes on forever
there's no PC laptop as total fucking currynigger shit as crapple's streetshitter books
they are the biggest heaps of steaming currynigger shit in the history of computing second only to curryPhones
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>>108364014
and this is WHY they remain poor.
it's even more clear when a new PlayStaion drops
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>>108359509
Apple Lisa and Apple Macintosh failed, still true for the Apple II though
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For me, its the HP Stream 14.
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i picked up one a few days ago. It's reasonably snappy, runs all the apple productivity software you'd expect and it runs the programs I need for my work. I don't play many video games and the ones I do play already work on mac, besides I have a nice pc with cachyos on it if I actually do want to play some more intensive games. People have mentioned the 8gb of ram issue and it is a low amount of ram, but I haven't had any memory issues with it, i'll have a crapload of tabs open in brave and it hasn't slowed or crashed on me once. This isn't me defending it but it's far from unusable.

Considering most laptops at this price point are utter e-waste I think it's impressive that apple released something reasonably priced. As an entry level laptop or as a complimentary device for your iphone I think it makes a lot of sense. Just being able to run the apple creator studio stuff makes it a good deal in my opinion. I use keynote and final cut pro a lot for my work, so it's nice to have access to those programs without having to spend a retarded amount of money a laptop i'm not really gonna use all that often.
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My 2016 Intel MacBook Pro is due for an upgrade after 10 years of use. All I do is shitpost on the internet and play guitar/bass into Garageband (might get Logic or Pro Tools someday) thru my Scarlett interface. Might pick up a Neo for $500. Could also get a refurb Air for $760 but I don't know that I would really benefit from $260 more of computer. What do you anons think?
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>>108360984
You can flash coreboot and install a normal operating system like Linux, MacOS or Windows
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>>108366430
based
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>>108359073
if you haven't had a fanless laptop before it seems like a good deal?
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>>108359073
im sick of this nigger posting on my feed idk how the googles ai is sniffing img/cookies are off etc and i blame you niggers
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>>108367569
It's very expensive but it's a cool PC. The major drawback is having to learn a new OS.
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>>108359073
>Why?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fZbBogSjxg
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>>108367575
>it's a cool PC
IT'S A 8GB PHONE WITH A KEYBOARD AND A FUCKING SCAM
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>>108367642
You are right but it's fun to play with wine/proton and x86 translation not to mention the good screen and keyboard.
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>>108366966
>For me, its the HP Stream 14.
ewaste
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>>108359073
It's the best choice if you're buying a new laptop for $600
But really if you're poor you should buy a used laptop and if not then why are you buying a $600 laptop?
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>>108367774
>It's the best choice if you're buying a new laptop for $600
I prefer buying the $900-1000 laptops when they go on sale at the end of the year for $400-500.
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>>108367774
>But really if you're poor
Meh, people buy things like that on 0% apr credit cards or buy now pay later apps. As long as you pay it off on time, there's no interest and no fees and you get to pay for something in 2 months to 24 months instead of right now.
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>>108367805
financing a laptop is fucking stupid. if you don't have the money for it then don't buy it
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>>108367820
>financing a laptop is fucking stupid.
it's only stupid if you pay interest or fees.
Plus you get a better warranty on top of that.
I finance all my laptops and pay it off when I feel like it. The same price you pay, except I can pay it off anytime between now and next year.
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>>108367820
>if you don't have the money for it then don't buy it
Anon, there's people way richer than you with high level credit cards that pay for way bigger items than you can afford on credit. They just pay it off whenever they feel like it.
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>>108359073
There isn't a better laptop for $600 that's new.
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>>108367890
>There isn't a better laptop for $600 that's new.
I get better laptops on clearances at the end of the year when the current stock is being wiped out for next year's models.
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Should I use tap-to-click or should I physically press the trackpad to click, on a MacBook? I.e. I'm asking if I should enable the former option in settings or use the default latter option.
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>>108367936
Ok but nothing for the $600 MSRP. Nobody wants to wait around for the end of the year, if they need a laptop now they need one now.
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>>108367992
There are some laptops that have existed before this year
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>>108367992
>Nobody wants to wait around for the end of the year, if they need a laptop now they need one now.
Laptops rarely break when you need them. Nobody needs anything right now unless they need it for school or work and you have nothing else. Everybody reading this has a phone, laptop and desktop and they can get a working PC for $100+ on ebay for the same basic tasks they need on a daily basis.
Most people only buy a $600+ laptop to have something fancy, rather than necessary.
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This thing exists because Apple had leftover parts from machines nobody wanted, they just designed a board to mount them on and added a screen.
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> paying for a 1st gen product before Apple upg-- ACK!

The M1 Macbook Air was good from the get go, Apple still supports them and millions of people still use them everyday. /g/ tards bitched and cried about 8GB of RAM being too little and swapping killing the soldered in SSD, but guess what, 8GB is still enough for basic tasks in MacOS and 5 years into the launch of the first 8GB M1 devices, no mass death of SSDs has been reported anywhere.

The MB Neo is by all intents and purposes, a M1 MBA version 2.
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>>108367992
It’s 500 with the education discount anyone can get
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>>108359073
Why not? First gen M1 was a huge success too. Literally M1 was LEAPS ahead of their Intel line up and now versions M2 through M5 were barely any upgrade at all.
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>>108368102
>>108368105
>>108368109
>>108367992
>>108367890
get a toilet currynigger
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>>108359073
Do want but does make sense to wait for the 2027 rev up.
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>>108368102
>an iNigger thinks he's a person
topkek
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>>108368109
an N95 found in $100 chromebooks literally destroyed your currynigger heap of shit m1 jeetbook
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>>108359073
I may get one if the battery is good, Linux + laptop is just so bad for devving on the go. My brand newmid range Lenovo laptop gets like 1.5hr running just basic Arch Linux + Spotify + VScode lol.
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>>108368163
Apple literally annihilates 99% of CPUs on the market with the exception of high end server hardware that costs thousands of dollars per piece.

https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/cpu_ranking-best_mobile_processors
https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/cpu_benchmark-cinebench_2026_multi_core
https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/cpu_benchmark-cinebench_2026_single_thread
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>>108368232
>benchmarks
>meant to emulate real world performance when real world testing isn't available
>instead of just looking at actual real world performance
your steaming heap of currynigger shit gets destroyed by an N95
deal with it currynigger
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>>108368319
>apple cheats at benchmarks by paying off some fantard to make fake applebenches that ignore all optimizations in x86
>gets utterly obliterated in real world loads
shocker
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>>108368332
>cinebench
>geekbench
You're an illiterate nigger.
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>>108368181
itoddlers btfo
>>108368319
itoddlers btfo again
>>108368332
itoddlers just cant stop getting btfo
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>>108359221
Noooooo you don't understand, macOS and Apple Silicon mog microslop so hard that 8gb ram is more performant than a 32gb pc!! The blue checkmark techbros on my twitter feed all say this!!
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>>108359073
They're never upgrading this piece of shit. The whole point of it is to be a piece of shit that's worse than the MacBook Air and Pro line. This is the poorfag laptop people buy on finance / credit to pretend they're not poor and then they pay themselves on the back telling themselves how smart they are for their $600 purchase of a laptop that only has 8 GB of fucking RAM in the year of our Lord 2026.
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>>108368455
>They're never upgrading this piece of shit.
That's just stupid, anon. It's not going to be the exact same machine forever. Go take a nap before you hurt yourself.
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>>108368470
It won't be the same machine, yes, they'll put a better processor in it and maybe upgrade the webcam and might put a faster SSD in it. The RAM configuration is unlikely to change though. This is a terrible laptop whose whole purpose is for Apple to offer a laptop for people that can't afford their actually good models.

They can polish this turd but it'll still be a turd.
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>>108368470
>It's not going to be the exact same machine forever.
this
it becomes ewaste when crapple pushes out the first update to cuck iNiggers into buying another
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>>108368455
I bought one out of boredom just to try out macOS
Neo is a top notch shitposting machine desu
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>>108368478
To be clear I do think there's a market for this just not at $500 as standard price (assuming >>108368105 is accurate) and $400 on discounted price, etc, then it might be worth it.

Essentially they have made a cheap laptop with Apple tax and you all call it brilliant. There's a nothing ground breaking about it. Charge what it's worth and everyone will say it's okay.
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>>108359073
lol my 15 year old laptop has 16GB RAM and this shit only has 8GB
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>>108368455
>>108368478
8 gigs of memory is more than enough for a normie who just needs a simple laptop to browse the Internet and maybe do some light office work. There is nothing that audience is doing that needs more memory.
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>>108368497
Just open Chrome tabs and you'll need more than that.
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>>108368478
>It won't be the same machine, yes, they'll put a better processor in it and maybe upgrade the webcam and might put a faster SSD in it.
Which is the OP's point. Don't buy now. Buy it when it has more value-add upgrades. The 1st gen Apple products are always not worth buying. Wait for 3rd or 4th gen.
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>>108368502
It will never have value upgrades if they don't upgrade the RAM configuration though. The processor will be fine but $600 is too much for a laptop with only 8 GB of RAM.

Get it down to $400-$500 and it's a different story.
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>>108368489
>it becomes ewaste when crapple pushes out the first update to cuck iNiggers into buying another
My dad's iPhone 12 is just as fast as the day he bought it. Whenever I help him with it, I am surprised at how performant it is.
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>>108368500
That's an exaggeration. I have Firefox open with 51 tabs (and I actually clicked through all of them while counting to make sure they loaded) and it's only using 722 mb. And Firefox is a notorious memory hog. There is no way you could need more than 8 gb for your browser; you're just spewing meme retardation.
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>>108368521
And what do you have open in those tabs? I promise you it's not an exaggeration you will find plenty of screenshots of people whose browser is using a lot of RAM…
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>>108368509
>It will never have value upgrades if they don't upgrade the RAM configuration though. The processor will be fine but $600 is too much for a laptop with only 8 GB of RAM.
What are you going to say when the 3rd gen has 12GB ram, better ssd, better camera, better screen, touch id built-in, better speakers, A20 pro, better ports for the same price?
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>>108368527
Then it still won't be worth it. Should be 16 GB minimum like competitor laptops have.
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>>108368532
Or you drop the Apple tax and then it's just a cheap laptop with 8 GB or 12 GB of RAM. But Apple will never do that.
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>>108368532
>Should be 16 GB minimum like competitor laptops have.
It will get there eventually. You guys act like it will be 8GB for the next 50 years lol.
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>>108368495
It's worth $50 absolute maximum.
There are chromebooks going to recycling centers with better screen, better keyboard, better battery, better performance than apple's latest street shit.
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>>108368512
This, my 4 year old iPhone 12 is as snappy as it was when I first bought it.
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>>108368512
>>108368554
no one believes you currynigger
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>>108368539
And when it does then it'll be a great value proposition. The way I see it you're a fool to pay $600 brand new for this. If good certified refurbished deals pop up in the future with a significant price cut though then I'd say the opposite and definitely snag it.
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>>108368563
>The way I see it you're a fool to pay $600 brand new for this.
I think that was OP's point but you guys are fighting him for no reason. He is saying DO NOT BUY, WAIT FOR REVISIONS.
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>>108368563
it would need a $400 price cut to be performance competitive with chromebooks
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>>108368576
I don't think revisions will fix the main issue though, which is "This is a crap cheap laptop for an Apple taxed price".

>>108368578
Agreed. If you can eat into the Chromebook market then suddenly this becomes relevant.
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>>108368576
>WAIT FOR REVISIONS.
and that's why he's a brain dead nigger
crapple currynigger shit will never be worth buying
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>>108368558
Android has 92% market share in India. Poodroid is literally third worlder shit. It's not my fault you're too poor to afford superior user experience.
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>>108368589
>he said while posting from his currynigger heap of shit jeetbook made by his currynigger corp founded by a literal shitskin street shitter
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soldered-in SSD
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>>108368593
It must be really embarrassing being wrong about every single thing you post about.
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admit it /g/
MacBook Neo is a good product
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>>108368602
It must be really embarrassing being a larping street shitting currynigger pretending to use linux when you're afraid of 2 button mice
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>>108359078
beta tester (aka beta male)
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>>108368610
indians can't afford apple products though?
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>>108359078
If you're not poor why would you buy this over a Macbook Pro?
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>>108368603
It's not, but if it forces other brands to step up their build quality and lower prices, then I don't mind.
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>>108359322
>shit-tier laptop trackpad instead of a hole and below it an integrated dock for inserting the phone to also use as the trackpad
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>>108368618
People who build Ferraris and rockets also cannot buy one themselves
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>>108359073
I need a light laptop and this is by far the best value option
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>>108359073
>2408x1506
>60hz
>2026
>no charging block
lmao
im still have my xps 9560 with 4k touchscreen i got like 10 years ago and it does its job when it comes to random browsing on on the couch/bed, which I guess is all this neo laptop is able to do anyway.
Its not a terrible deal considering inflation if you want apple ecosystem, but not amazing either.
I would buy it if it had touchscreen and detachable keyboard.
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>>108369230
buy a toilet currynigger
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bump
i bought a macbook pro today
m5 24gb, thought that 1gb per core would be pretty good
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>>108359073
i bought a first gen m1 macbook pro and its still great.
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>>108359073
Apple won the next generation, they set up such a great ecosystem of returns they basically are getting 300$ profit each.
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>>108370382
>i bought a first gen m1 macbook pro and its still great.
you overpaid
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>>108371237
what better laptop option did i have on in october of 2021 for $1800
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Because they have jobs, thus more money than you. Why do you care?
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>>108371268
Let's be honest you could have bought a chromebook for 500 dollars and it would have done everything you needed it to do.
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>>108359073
<Gays
>Karens
>Tennage girls
>jeets

muh shit phone with a keyboard crappleslop
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>>108371290
yeah for 2 years
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when are we going to get a marcus whitelee to review stuff
this guy SUCKS
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>>108359073
It's not really first gen, it's an established phone SoC with a bigger screen and attached keyboard.
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>>108359073
To signal women and competing men that you can afford it. It’s the poorfag’s money show-off.
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>>108359073
If you want a macBook Neo, buy one now. Don't wait for Apple to jack up prices.
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>>108368319
>poopoo peepee
indians don't use apple and you take this shit way too seriously. maybe go get that mental illness of yours seen to at some point.
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>>108359073
Because if you are a child you want to flex with Macs. Because if you are a parent you have no excuse for not buying this thing.
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>>108372786
>Because if you are a parent you have no excuse for not buying this thing.
>here ya go Son!
>B-but.. 8GB?
>Dad? wtf man..
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>>108372827
zoomers dont care about 8GB
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>>108359078
Are you a woman?
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>>108371329
>muh shit phone with a keyboard crappleslop
/g/ would cum if somebody made an ARM laptop with this build quality that ran Linux natively for this price.
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>>108359073

Colorful, less than a week's pay and the astroturfing influencer marketing told me to.
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>>108375068
>/g/ would cum if somebody made an ARM laptop with this build quality that ran Linux natively for this price.
this
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I would pay more for 15 inches.
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>>108375068
>>108375445
$50 chromebooks have existed for over a decade
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>>108375528
>$50 chromebooks have existed for over a decade
That's not what the Macbook Neo is, neet.
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>>108375538
yeah, $50 chromebooks with their low end CPUs still utterly destroy your currynigger jeetbook CPooUs in performance
there doesn't exist a chromebook as total currynigger shit as any apploo turd
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>>108375475
Doubt they'll ever make a 15" one. It'll cut into macbook air sales too much
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>>108359985
I loved this phone
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>>108359078
>being (you)
>Not asking questions, just consuming product and getting excited for new products
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>>108376553
Its a chill life.
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The real question is do you think there'll be a new MacBook Neo next year with 12GB of RAM or will Applel make you wait till 2029?
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>>108376875
The a18 pro is limiting the ram to 8GB so the Neo with an a19 pro will have 12GB ram as it does on the iPhone 17 Pro.
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>>108376275
>Doubt they'll ever make a 15" one. It'll cut into macbook air sales too much
By that logic, the Neo is cutting into Macbook Air 13 sales so...they will probably come out with a Macbook Neo 15 if this one sells well.
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>>108359078
The target Apple audience
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>>108359073
Most repairable MacBook in 14 years:
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>>108376875
The Macbook Neo that will be worth buying is the one that comes with an A20 Pro which will be the first 2nm process chip. You can already tell the order of upgrades...

>Neo 2026 = a18 pro (3nm) 8GB ram
>Neo 2027 = a19 pro (3nm) 12GB ram
>Neo 2028 = a20 pro (2nm) 12GB ram
>Neo 2029 = a21 pro (2mm) 16GB ram

Therefore if you care about ram and processor, 2029 will be the first good time to buy a Macbook Neo.
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>>108359135
wat
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>>108359073
it's funny apple sent him a banana one
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>>108359078
>buy shiny thing when i want
literally the worst kind of person
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>>108359221
they are also filled with an OS that takes up 80% of said RAM.
Meanwhile MacOs has muuuuuuch better RAM management which is a reason why their pro stuff is leaps and bounds above the competition.
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there is no equivalent to macs

macs have:
>soldered SSD/RAM/WLAN
doesnt exist on 99% of PCs
>when pajeetOS runs out of RAM it swapfile rapes the SSD to death within 3 years
doesnt exist on 99% of PCs
>when the SSD dies it bricks your entire currybook because the EFI is stored on the soldered SSD to save $0.05 on a dedicated chip
doesnt exist on 99% of PCs
>components serial numbered and tied to the motherboard to prevent repair and replacement (including battery)
doesnt exist on 99% of PCs
>riveted keyboard that requires total destruction of the chassis to replace
doesnt exist on 99% of PCs
>flexgate cables that are so brittle they crack from opening your screen past 90 degrees more than 2 dozen times
doesnt exist on 99% of PCs
>screens so fucking shit they have over 90ms response times (essentially 10Hz)
doesnt exist on 99% of PCs
>screen made from pajeet trash glass that cracks from temperature change in seasons or tape over the iBotnet webcam
doesnt exist on 99% of PCs
>so fire and explosion prone the FAA have banned them from all flights
doesnt exist on 99% of PCs
>uses phone CPU that's so shit it gets destroyed by decade old i3s from 2017 and can only "compete" by cheating at benchmarks in extreme edge cases with hardware accelerators
doesnt exist on 99% of PCs
>curryniggers at apploo get so full of sniffing their own currynigger silicon shit they ship currybooks with no fans and they run so hot they melt the keyboard keys
doesnt exist on 99% of PCs

>keyboards with 63.5% failure rate
unheard of on PCs, and yet you curryniggers defend it with "jus werx fer me!"
just because you're in the 36.5% survivor group doesn't make your currynigger trash any good
this list goes on forever
there's no PC laptop as total fucking currynigger shit as crapple's streetshitter books
they are the biggest heaps of steaming currynigger shit in the history of computing second only to curryPhones
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>>108380085
>muuuuuuch better RAM management
get a toilet currynigger
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>>108359207
This. There's also a market for it. Apple is obviously the more fashionable brand for a lot of people who don't need powerful computers, they just need something reliable that can run a browser and some basic applications. 4chan doesn't care about fashion, but those people do.
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>>108380292
>they just need something reliable
>crapplejeet trash
pick one

>people
>iNiggers
pick one
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>>108380127
>there is no equivalent to macs
based
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>>108378663
>Most repairable MacBook in 14 years:
EU made them do it thank god
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>>108360434
Cause it is literally for kids and students who ask mommy and daddy to buy it for them. No person who makes their own money will blow 699 usd for a toy laptop with a phone cpu
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>>108382375
You'd be surprised by how many adults are buying this. They are glad they don't need to spend $1099 for the Macbook Air.
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it can emulate everything up to the switch, what more do i need?
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>>108382408
>what more do i need?
i'd wait
the 1st gen is not worth it
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>>108359078
This is literally the poor peoples model
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>>108382375
>699 usd
More like 799$ when you convert euro to usd
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>boughted macbook neo as a britbong with one job that scrapes the minimum wage
>use claude on my 5700x3d machine and start talking with it
>come up with a good idea for an app in my irl work niche that would help us
>never devved up anything before but my idea is simple
>4 days later from Claude to App Store I have my app
>people are already boughting my app and I now have a second income stream
>need to revise a few things and drop an update
I like the Neo, it's literally changed my life, if I didn't finance this blue "piece of shit" I don't think I would've made my app for work...

/v/ guy here btw just came to see what /g/'s opinion on the new sneedbook was, but yeah i am loving it
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>>108382720
get a toilet currynigger
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>>108382760
I'm a "Goray" bro I'm White and pretty anti-apple but something just told me in my head like... "get it and see if you can use it to make money" so far so good
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you best be trolling goray
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>>108380127
based
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>>108380127
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>>108382720
>>boughted macbook neo as a britbong with one job that scrapes the minimum wage
well hold on a second, what about the annual developer fee?
plus im surprised xcode doesn't chug... unless you don't even use it?
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>>108359322
They already have great compatibility with iPhone apps.. like 100 percent and it’s seamless af. Apple did it right I’m tempted to get one but I have a desktop pc so it’d be hard to justify
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>>108359322
How would Apple convince you to buy both an iPhone and a Macbook (and Airpods, and an iWatch, and an iPad...) if one device could meet all your needs?
You're clearly forgetting about the shareholders
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>>108383516
He is lying
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>>108386437
theres no technical reason that what hes saying is infeasible, i was just curious about more details. xcode probably runs fine if you close everything else... although having an iphone simulator running alongside might be a bitch - but thats assuming hes build an ios app.
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>>108359073
https://youtu.be/cO3wfxfIkfU
https://youtu.be/cO3wfxfIkfU
https://youtu.be/cO3wfxfIkfU
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>>108387652
look, as a former gamer i hate to say it, but games are genuinely for losers. this is true both in a spiritual sense, but even in a technical sense - imagine having an entire section of your silicon dedicated to stretching textures over triangles... i mean, what are you even doing at this point.
apple hardware is much more concerned with actually useful computation (video codecs, filters, etc.)
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>>108387754
>actually useful computation
crapple curryniger shit is designed purely for facebooking, javascript acceleration, and hardware encoding which is utter fucking shit in quality compared to software encoding
but then, their target audience is entirely niggers that dont know how to use a mouse with more than 2 buttons, browsing facebook, and uploading shit quality applel advertisements to kiketube
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>>108387979
hardware encoding is very good nowadays. 5 fps versus 25 fps is not hugely interesting given that my 8 year old stinkpad can run h265 enodes/transcodes at hundreds of frames per second with intel quick sync.

javascript acceleration is very important given that even the technically inclined user will spend >80% of the computers time in a browser - infact, if anything, even more important because the technical users are the ones who run vscode (electron), and put the most pressure on the browser with webapps like github, web-based editors, python jupyter notebooks, and often many hundreds of tabs.

as for facebooking, well, i personally am not a huge facebook guy but facebook is probably a pretty good litmus test for how good the machine handles a multimedia rich environment.


its hard to take mac detractors seriously when they pick the silliest angles of attack. you could make a far stronger case for the ram prices, or soldered nvme storage. instead you attack the platform's strongest positions...
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>>108359073
It has good battery life and it's cheap for a MacBook. Apple won bigly.
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>>108388335
>hardware encoding is very good nowadays
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>>108388335
>hardware encoding is very good nowadays
um no, it has never been.
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>>108359073
>before Apple upgrades it to a much better value with better IO, processor, ports, etc.
they're not doing this
it's a leftover stock phone part because they overestimated how many people wanted to buy new phones
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>>108388557
>they're not doing this
you're fucking stupid. it will get upgraded over time. people like you are fucking retards. The 1st gen is always going to be the worst buy.
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>>108388567
crapple currynigger shit is always the worst buy
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>its the first gen!
>people who bought the first gen steam deck
huh
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>>108388695
you're just poor
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>>108359073
>watch his review
>at 5:05 he says: there's none of that keyboard deck flex you might get from a plastic laptop
>shows the deck flexing like a motherfucker
what did he mean by this
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>>108387652
kek
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Imagine being so poor you can't afford this
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I'm gonna consider one if they ever do a better Neo with at LEAST 12GB RAM and ditch the USB 2.0 port. I don't want much more than a small light laptop that works with my phone and is powerful enough to run Lightroom Classic.
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>>108393834
get rid in what way? remove it altogether?
its a hardware limitation like the ram, there are only 2 controllers on the phone chips
one 3.2 gen 2, one 2.0 controller
if anything we should be happy they didnt do a single port again like the 12 inch macbook
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>>108393834
Then just wait for the 3rd gen
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>>108359073
Holy coping browns ITT, if you can’t afford it just say so LMAO.
>mfw I just bought the 512gb Citrus Neo
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>>108394497
>citrus
You're gay
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>>108359073
Gay
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>>108359073
I bought first macbook air with M1. The best laptop I ever had. Don't want to upgrade. Maybe only for mah games to M Max.
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I'd rather buy this than an iPad
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>>108359599
this but unironically
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>>108359653
sir, this is a shilling thread
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>>108359653
>>caring about the inconsequential decisions other people make
>Why?
because we help others make good tech buys
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>>108394497
>>108394617
>>108395490
buy a toilet currynigger
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>>108359078
>not poor
But you are retarded. I'm having a hard time believing you
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>>108359073
Isn't a discounted M1 better?
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>>108396856
M1 doesnt have hardware av1 decoding.
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>>108394497
>can’t afford it
You have no leg to stand on if you're buying this piece of shit. It might, might be an option if you want to give something cheap and shit to your squealing spawn. Anyone with money, who is buying apple, is buying at least a MBP, probably with the M5 Pro or M5 Max, depending on how much they've drunk the AI koolaid.
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>>108396863
>Anyone with money, who is buying apple, is buying at least a MBP
I know a lot of people with money who only use the Macbook Air. Only a few own the Macbook Pro.
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cotton review when nigger
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>>108397480
qrd



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