Obsolete editionHow to request advice:>Budget>Intended use (media, source, environment)>Frequency response preference and music examples>Past gear and your thoughts on themFAQ:>Where do I buy IEMs?Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio>Shopping Guide (IEMs, PMPs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):https://consoomer-guide.pages.dev/>/iemg/'s Journal:https://iemgazette.pages.dev/>EQ Guide (EQ 101, Targets, Myths & Misconceptions, Papers, etc.):https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/>Measurements:https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/measurement-databases/>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:• Tanchjim Bunny DSP (Mild U/5-Band PEQ) - $22• Truthear Gate (Mild V) - $22• EPZ Q1 Pro (V-shape) - $35>Bullet IEMs:• Tanchjim Zero Ultima DSP (Mild U/5-Band PEQ) - $22• Sony IER-EX15C (Warm/Dark) - $30• Etymotic ER2XR (Towards Neutral) - $140>Flathead Earbuds:• Blue Vido (Warm) - $5• Yincrow X6 (Warm) - $10>USB-C DACs:• JCally JM6 (Non Pro) / CX Pro - $8• JadeAudio JIEZI (10-Band PEQ) - $18• TRN Black Pearl (10-Band PEQ) - $38• Qudelix 5K (20-Band PEQ/GEQ) - $110>PMPs:• HiBy R1 - $85• HiBy M300 - $200>AVOID USING:• Mainboard audio when using multi-driver posPrevious Thread: >>108323728
/iemg/ Dogma Check Tired of the hivemind? Here’s your prescribed sanity dose:>Crinacle is not your priest.Rankings are a guide, not divine scripture. Your ears > his spreadsheet.>Harman ≠ perfect.It’s a preference curve, not a law of physics. Some genres need deviation.>Chi-Fi isn’t magic.Great value, yes. Immune to qc issues and hype cycles? Nah.>Graphs are not sound.They don’t show staging, dynamics, or fit. Use your ears, not just squigs.>BA ≠ metallic, DD ≠ perfect.Implementation matters more than driver type. Always has.>Meme sets aren’t the whole hobby.If it’s not shilled 24/7, it might still be good. It's highly encouraged to form an original opinion.>Disagreeing ≠ cope or deaf.Let people like what they like without foaming at the mouth.>Loud posts =/= smart takes.Confidence without experience is just noise. Show graphs, impressions, or both.This has been your scheduled break from pos groupthink.
>>108371943EA500LM is mid, bro, get over it.
>>108371971you never heard one in your life, get over it
>>108371990Fake news.
>>108371994got it. crinacle still had to tell you it's mid though
>>108372024You had to dumpster dive to own 1 IEM.
>>108372057sure. enjoy your delusions
>>108372110Better than owning 1 used, clogged, scratched to shit IEM. No rebuttal will be provided because you know it's true.
>>108372139>clogged, scratched to shitstill shiny and smooth, not clogged. you really are a genuine fucktard.
>>108372177>no photoCalled it.
>>108372186you've seen it before, dense twat.
>>108372194It was real in your mind.
why is epz g10 so good, bros?
>>108372203just like being a man is only real in your mind.
*ThighAwedyo Prestige LTD*What it fucking feels like to be a based Saint and Alchemist.https://open.spotify.com/track/5cLfQFDgjfIPIFuA22XFwu?si=oToxMzlXQYmvTa8K0J-EZQhttps://open.spotify.com/track/2dNLSk3qKaiEUsMwNEz6fw?si=eSO6z1m-RzeFifD7cWxEWA
>>108372233True. Men don't exist. Just like your IEM collection.
>>108372398Speak of the devil.
>>108369716>BT DAC>lets me connect wired IEM's/headphones to a phone without a 3.5mm jack>once the battery dies it can be used as a USB dongle so it won't become e-waste>wired IEM's/headphones can always be used in other wired hardware like desktop DAC/AMP>TWS>wew, awesome, completely wireless, much ergonomic, very minimal>once the battery dies they become complete and utter e-waste that costed way too much for how long those little batteries livedIt's that simple. Is it less practical than getting TWS? Yes. Does it have better longevity for the things I spend my hard earned money on? Absolutely, and that's the true selling point. When I spend money on something, I want this something to serve me for a long time. TWS has more drawbacks than positives in the long run and feels like a waste of money.
>>108372398>What it fucking feels like to be a based Saint and Alchemist.
>>108372413>TWS>once the battery dies they become complete and utter e-waste that costed way too much for how long those little batteries livedunless it's the based Snoy XM4
>>108372971>headphones w/ wired optionYeah see, that makes sense, and also you could have the ability to replace the battery in those. With IEM's (the topic of this lovely general) you're SOL, unless Snoy releases TWS buds with 2-pin connectors do that you can get a second wind out of them once the batts give out.
>>108373034you can replace batteries in the in-ear variant of the XM4 quite easily
I will keep shilling this company and there's nothing you can do to stop me.
>>108373434Didn't the fat fag shilling this brand transition to blueslop speakers? lol
Just got my first IEM's but I have a few questions. First the tips that it came with barely seem to fit and most didn't fit at all. I could only get the largest size to squeeze on and I really had to force it. Is that normal? Why did they send so many that won't even fit them? The little silicon circle is half the size of the iem thing it's supposed to go around I have no idea how I would get it to fit. Are you supposed to use some sort of special stretching tool?Second How do I know which one is right and which one is left? All they have is a blue and red band nothing I can see that says which side is which?
>>108373608>Are you supposed to use some sort of special stretching tool?nah. just have to work it with your fingers.>which one is right and which one is leftthey're the same
>>108373633>they're the sameYou guys are the experts here but how can that be? There's always a right and left side, do I just have to play one of those left right sound test videos to figure out which is which?
>>108373639not for tips, anon.
>>108373661Yeah sorry guess I should have clarified I meant for the cable but I figured it out. Wow these sound pretty good. Just have some random video game music on but so far it's a lot better than I was expecting. My last earphones were probably back when portable cd players were a thing. As I feared though the cable it came with is too short. Can you recommend any cheap brands I can find on amazon that aren't shit? I don't want to spend more than 30 or 40 dollars but I need something that has at least 5-6 feet in length.Oh also is tuning a thing like with headphones? I'm using the Peace app to tune my headphones but I don't know a lot about it so I'm just using one of the preset settings they have for my brand. Will it have ones for IEM's as well or will I just have to fuck around with it myself? How good are they out of the box should I need to do much?
>>108373677enjoy your Waner 2s, glad you like them. for your cable situation, it might be best to use a type-c extension cable for the dongle you will inevitably buy. don't even worry about EQ for now. probably not even necessary for you at all, really.
>>108373677Any linsoul cables below $30 are good, some have memory others don't, read reviews on microphonics, and just be sure the pins match your iems. I'm using Tripowin C-01 on my Novas, they are $20 USD and perfect for my use case.
>>108373796Thanks, I already have an AMP I use with my headphones that I can plug the IEM's into. But the amp is a bit away and the cable it came with just barely reaches me. I got these IEM's because sometimes I just don't feel like wearing the monster headphones and want something less bulky. It's kind of nice to have sound without my head being squished. I was looking at this cable on amazon does it seem like it will be decent? https://a.co/d/03HtD2zb
>>108373824>https://a.co/d/03HtD2zbthe cable's length would be the only thing...but it is a decent cable
>>108373865Thanks I want a longer cable so I'll get it.
>>108373904nice. btw, nobody here is an 'expert'.
>>108374154I am.
Another newfag IEM question, can eartips really make a big difference in sound? I tried the smaller ones that came with mine and I swear it feels like the bass was cut in half. I thought it was just whatever fit in your ear better but do I have to shop around for special tips too?
>>108374407> can eartips really make a big difference in sound?Yes. Insertion depth will change and other (much more insignificant) factors will also change treble behavior.>I thought it was just whatever fit in your ear better but do I have to shop around for special tips too?Get whatever fits the most comfortable and also doesn't sacrifice seal like the smaller ones did.
>>108372413>BT DACA meme.>TWSA meme.
>>108372215Fox techs
>>108374339You, personally, aren't. I, of course, am.
It's impossible to use IEMs at the gym or running because the seal makes you hear your own heart beat and breathing and it feels like shit.
Can't believe me and foxtismo live in the same town and I've seen him on the sub.
>>108374407>can eartips really make a big difference in sound?yes, very much so>sealthe make-or-break factor - tips should seal well, but since every human has different anatomy, there's no rule which set of tips will or will not make a proper seal, although at least you get different sizes of tips included with your poswithout seal you get no bass, which results in shouty, ear-grating tonality, since there's no bass to balance out the shout>insertion depthit can change the tuning quite significantly, in general deep fit smoothens out the treble and adds midbass, while shallow fit makes treble less refined due to resonances, but also makes the sound less bloated and more open>bore sizean eartip is in fact an acoustic element that can change the sound with its shape, in this case the size of the bore changes acoustic impedance and makes the sound more bassy (narrow bore) or brighter (wide bore) with everything in between, it's a general rule but doesn't apply to every pos>bore shapesome eartips have certain traits that let them tweak the sound even further, for example SpinFits have a resonator that makes the bass sound more dynamic, Moondrop Spring Tips have ribbed bores that smooth out excess peaks in the treble, Tang Sancai tips have similar ribs plus they're textured to alleviate in-ear pressure when using unvented pos, Pentaconn Coreir tips have metal bores, DUNU tips have smooth bores for unaltered sound etc.
>>108376815her*and who gives a shit
>>108376499why would you do anything else while listening to music? this just tells you have bad taste
>>108377094Why do anything without listening to music. Gotta be better than whatever's playing in real life.
>>108377075You aint no her bro. I've literally seen you irl.
>>108378486>Youwrong anon. and don't validate that tranny, they're actually FtM.
>>108376815Have you felt the power of fox techs?
Is fiio PEQ still buggy?
>>108376499that means your music isnt loud enough
>>108378718elaborate.
>>108376815You should rape him.
>>108378523Foxzo is a woman?
>>108379569technically yes. but we're in 2026 now. how the hell anyone believes this shit still is beyond me. the kicker is that foxzo will vehemently attack, argue, etc., when it comes to their IEM beliefs being challenged. all while struggling with their identity. it's a cycle. of bullshit.
>>108379569he will never be a woman
>>108379569ofc, why do you think she's posting here instead of being drafted?
>>108379123werks as intended for me
Go ahead and take out your foam tips. Hold them between your fingers and squeeze. What happens?
>>108380142If you have to use foam tips to make your pos sound good - it's over.Take note, Bryan Thng. I know you're here. Zero:Blue 2 is dogshit.
>>108379569>>108379601>>108379617>>108379849
benjamin netanyahu please kill half the people in this thread
7Hz Zero:2just as good
>>108371903I know very little about this niche but I'm sure that little DAC with the anime girl on it is several hundred dollars.
>>108381015You must pay the waifu tax if you want the waifu techs.
got a new pmp today
before anyone asks, yes, it fits in my pocket.
i finally found good eartips. spinfit, moondrop spring and coffee tips were so bad. my blessing 2 are saved
Moondrop E V OO m g
>>108381360this new? so far I havent seen anything better than KZ AZ09>>108371943does pos stand for point of sale? or piece of shit?
>>108381095>>108381145wth is even that?>>108381410piece of monkey shit, to be precise
>>108381469a&k ca1000 portable battery powered dac amp dap. think fiio r7 but with a battery.one of my "where do i go from here" tier gear.
>>108381671>where do i go from herethere's a word for that. futureproof. some say endgame. but no, there's nowhere else to go.
>>108380006Have you measured it? Melody is still buggy >>108369461
anyone else up refining their aliexpress shopping carts?
Are there really no wired iems with ANC? The only ones I've found are some ASUS cetra and they look and probably are shit.
I'll get one of those as my final purchase
My xm5s died on me. Is there something cheap with good enough quality that will dampen the external cacophony for when I want to walk around? My chinkphone also doesn't have a jack so I guess that further limits my options.
>>108383433Literally any cheap anc earbuds are good enough for just background noise in the street
>>108383163I really like my Top Pros, but I'm not a fan of the Tea Pros. I recently got the Valhalla's and that made me appreciate the Pros a lot more, especially for the price.
>>108382848There's a pair from bose but yeah it's a rare product.
Not a native english speakerhow do you call the earbuds that have a shape that doesn't make the cable go around your ears but rather directly to the bottom?I'm kinda looking for something like that
>>108383866Bullet style
>>108383452I have the option of getting a replacement part for my xm5s for ~70€. I didn't take an in-depth look on the available options when I initally got them and their sound clarity always seemed bad. Now that they died I wanted to know if there's something with actually good sound quality I could use below that price range even if it compromised the anc to decide if I should fix them or put them aside.
Eartips I've used with my mega5ests ranked by goodness:1. HiFiGo DUNU S&S 2. SpinFit W13. HE Sonic Eartips Song of the Long River4. TANGZU Tang Sancai EartipsWhat should I buy next?
>>108381671Ultra-based pos.
>>108384183Moondorp Spring tipsSpinFit NeoSpinFit OmniDUNU CandyFinal EFlangezo Triple-Flange Eartips
>>108384420>Final EI use these for all of my IEMs, they fit me the best.
Trying to get my friend a pair of IEMs for general use, gaming and listening to bass heavy music. He's never used anything other than Razer headphones so I don't have a graph to go off of but I was thinking something like Punch Audio Martilos or the cheaper Portazos.
>DSPit's over for the dongle industry>inb4 DRE IMD humpit's not audible in 99% of the cases and you can turn it off via FW
>>108384488get the Portazos.
>>108384598I might just give him my Martilos since I recently got a pair of Origins.
>dealer couldn't secure evoaria batch 1 slot>no ETA for when batch 2 slots opensfuck this im buying lp7
>>108384488Give a man a pos, he listens for a day. Teach him to EQ and he listens for a lifetime.
>>108384978dont sleep on the M27
Monolith soonhttps://youtu.be/Vfc04Dmux-c?si=2KSUxVW51CwviS8N&t=752
>>108385297Thanks for the rec lol but I'm already using the M27 Ti as my daily driver. One of the better DAPs on the market atm but I had only intended for it to tide me in the short term until I secured a higher end DAP. Thought I had preordered early doing it in December but by then all mainland China slots for the evoaria copper had already sold out. Fuck.
>>108385509>a higher end DAPfor what? what's the actual upgrade?
Should I use low or high gain settings in the Fiio KA17 dac? Iem is moondrop meteor.Reddit says High gain compresses sound?
Is Letshuoer s12 ultra good for EDM and pop? Is there better options in that budget?
>>108385927>s12 ultra good for EDM and pop?yes
>>108385954is there better options in that budget?
>>108386113Chu 2
Learning techs 101:Dynamic Driver: Poor techs. Similar to IPS.Planar Driver: Good techs. Similar to OLED.
>>108386391The deaf not using visual analogies for audio challenge: impossible.
>>108385894Never use high gain on anything. Especially with IEMs.
>>108386455You're the one who thinks that you can EQ an IPS to OLED.
>>108386538>he thinks ear rape is something desirable and worth recreating with EQ
>>108386469okay. How about Desktop mode on the fiio? Is it "gain stage" so not use it too? But it sounds better to me somehow, more energy.
which
>>108386661It's just louder.
>>108386711oh ok thank you!
so headphones.com went to the UK and got some measurements done, turns out a hd600 eq'ed to a hd800 sounds the same, does this translate to IEM's as well? what's stopping me from eq'ing my tea pros to the valhalla? will they sound the same at the eardrum?
>>108386538Just like how you can simulate an IPS with an OLED by adding visual filters to simulate backlight bleed and poor motion clarity, you can simulate a planar with a DD by using EQ to add ear rape and other VSTs to add 4% THD.
>>108386688Elua Ultra >>108386885tonality-wise, it's arbitrary to achieve similarities, if that's all you're going for.
>>108386885You got a wrong lesson from that video. Not everyone likes hd800 and not everyone likes valhalla and now we can see why. Because they literally don't sound the same to different people. You can do better than any physically existing headphone/IEM and you don't even need in-ear measurements for that, since the peaks you hear during a sweep align with the peaks in the in-ear measurements.
reminder that the only target that matters is your own. and no amount of tweaking can compare to latent technical potential.
>>108387512Only fox target matters.
>>108387526Hi Foxzo, Hi!
>>108387526pre-obsoleted by kansas pro
What is the Sennheiser HDB 630 of IEMs
>>108388389IE 600
>>108388481Okay ty just bought some for 400 off jp ebay
>>108388951Sure...
>>108389329You doubted me.... it hurts
>>108388389>>108388951Are you ESL?
i hope the tanchjim onahole comes in xl size
>>108389386No why
>>108389384Why did you buy that pos...
https://youtu.be/JVW53wmo-04did we talk about this already? turns out you can EQ one headphone to another and even EQ soundstage in HUH. funny how that works
>>108386885>does this translate to IEM's as wellyes>what's stopping me from eq'ing my tea pros to the valhallayou don't have proper measurements I'm not sure how any of this is surprising to people...
>>108389384based.
deleting my aliexpress account once this arrives. have to stop consooming shit i want but dont need.
>>108390773>funny how that workshow does it work?
>>108390773>This changes everything >You need to get your HRTF measured, not to mention that it changes over time as your ears age, that's why CIEMs need a reshell every 2-3 years >Can be matched at one pinpoint location, move the headphone like a few millimeters and everything collapses >Used headphones of the same driver type (HD600 and 800) >The illusion is broken the moment your ears touch something inside, or you hear that the difference in the acoustic isolation from any outside sounds >Not to mention THD differences between different modelThis changes nothing.
>>108371903I've only listened to music on my Sennheiser HD600 headphones for the last 10 years.Now I need something in ear or closed back to take to work.What could please my autism? Needs to be neutral, flat, good clarity.
>>108371903Is the aliexpress anniversary sale global? I can't find discounts in my shitholeAlso, does the fucking Iran war impact the shipping from China?
>>108392355Daybreak
Has anyone used a PSP or a Vita as a DAP? I wonder how good the internal DAC would be. I don't think either of these can power a dongle, right?
>>108391227gonna go back to huffing petrol?
Convince me to not buy cvj waifuslop iems
>>108383787Im the opposite. Tea Pros sound good to me, Top Pros were kinda ear rape and much less pleasing
>>108393401would be cooler than going for epz. enjoy
>>108392833they have Wolfson (Cirrus Logic) DACs, great for its time
>>108393401Epz slop.
>>108394385
>>108390773>can clone headphones>no headphones worth cloningTragic.
>>108393401theyre kinda meh. just spend the money on an onahole and a tanchjim bunny
I'd rather ask here than /sqt/ Do I need a particular kind of subwoofer to match my speakers? I'd assume not since it's just a low end rumbling machine there's nothing to tune there but figured I'd ask.Do subwoofers have to be matched to my speakers somehow?
>>108396238kind of, just set the crossover point while keeping in mind their responses
>>108396238just watch this videohttps://youtu.be/YqaJWkLg7UU
>>108395821I already have a bunny, guess I need an onahole How about kiwi ears belle
>>108396470Bunny > Belle apart from that one treble murder spike
>>108396477Can't believe Bunny is endgame bros...
