>>108373153
Looks like Zen browser.

>>108373153
Can they stop moving shit and just put the menus back. Fuck.

>>108373153
maybe they should fix the jank browsing history instead of this

>>108373153
What's the point?

>>108373153
The UI looks pretty cool.

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>>108373153
Fixed it

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>it's actually real

>>108373153
>icon
Soulless.
>mascot
Good.
>design
Absolute dogshit.

>>108373153
when is it scheduled so I can disable updates right beforehand?

>>108373153
Looks cool, nice design. Surely it won't come with 100mb more ram used per per tab for no reason hahaha

>>108373153
I quit Firefox because I was sick of the terrible performance

I'm considering coming back because it's the only browser that can reliably block all ads

Are they addressing the memory leaks, crashes, and bad performance? Will it shove AI down my throat?

>>108373177
>>icon
>Soulless.
Actual new icon will be shown within a week, it will feature Kit ig.

>>108373175
why do they do this shit when firefox is so far behind chromium? There is no justification of spending time to forcefully redesign shit and its like they are trolling with simplifying the logo even more by removing the fucking FOX

>>108373192
Makes sense. But the UI is still dogshit.

I trust the forks more than I trust Mozilla. Especially when they just copy what the forks are already doing but late.
Mozilla should focus on the engine more than the frontend. I feel like their own userbase has been asking them to stop changing the UI for over a decade now that they just don't listen and that's why they keep bleeding users every single year.

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>>108373193
Fox is coming back next week on the logo, it will feature Kit, that's what they want the firefox to be.

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>>108373175
Why is the world like this.

>>108373213
fucking money is used on playing around like this instead of actually saving the internet

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>>108373175

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>>108373153
I HATE ROUNDED CORNERS AND PADDING
>I HATE ROUNDED CORNERS AND PADDING
I HATE ROUNDED CORNERS AND PADDING
>I HATE ROUNDED CORNERS AND PADDING
I HATE ROUNDED CORNERS AND PADDING
>I HATE ROUNDED CORNERS AND PADDING

>>108373246
If we just spend the donations on one more conference and fire 1 more team of engineers, it might make the product good. This time I can feel it.

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>>108373153
>bisexual goyblob
It fucking sucks

>>108373153
CUTE!

>>108373267
rounded corners board ya newbitch

>>108373153
Someone link that video where hobo stares at TVs inside a store in total apathy.
Firefox what the fuck. You were supposed to be the chosen one. But you flushed servo. And turned to furfaggotry.

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>>108373153

* { border-radius: 50px; }

It's shit.

I like the mascot tho. Kinda curious to see how the new icon will look like.

>>108373153
not much I'm still using the Australis design

>>108373301
>But you flushed servo
really?
what happened?

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>>108373361
for me it's photon

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>>108373217
I guess it's almost finally time to replace the default Firefox icon with the dolan one. I never thought I'd see the day.

>>108373367
Team fired. Given over to Linux foundation. This was years ago too.
https://servo.org/
Look at the footer.

>>108373367
>Servo has always been a research project. It began at the Mozilla Corporation in 2012, and its employees did the bulk of the work until 2020.[9] This included the Quantum project, when portions of Servo were incorporated into the Gecko engine of Firefox.[10][4]
>After Mozilla laid off all Servo developers in 2020,[9] governance of the project was transferred to Linux Foundation Europe.[1] Development work officially continues at the same GitHub repository with the project itself entirely volunteer driven.[2]
pretty sure they were very heavy on the bullshit side projects that had no relation to the browser at this point (and I think they have now cut a lot of that away at least?)

>>108373410
>bullshit side projects
Their projects aren't even bullshit. A browser engine for a browser company makes sense and I will never forgive them for dropping Prism.
There is an alternate universe where Electron is Gecko based. Single web service applications will never become the norm they said.

>>108373424
servo wasnt bullshit side project but mozilla has history of literally everything. For some reason they tried to have an ecosystem of everything

>>108373153
why? it was fine

And still you can't have multiple sidebars.

>>108373682
>it was fine
It's been in decline for years. This is simply acceleration.

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>>108373153
It looks like Zen... so I like it.

>>108373153
zoom zoom gae

>>108373153
The fox is cute, the icon without the fox being on it is a horrible branding mistake, the UI is shit fuckloads of wasted blank space and retarded tranny-safe round corners for displaying rectangular content.
I give it a niggerlicious/10 because it's entire purpose is just to break my userchrome.css again.

>>108373692
works on my machine

>>108373153
Why do modern mascots and logos have to be "cute"? I don't want my browser to be cute at all, I want it to have actual style and work without moving the buttons every 2 years.

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>>108373732
Everything needs to have cute things pastured on it to weed out dysgenic freaks with underdeveloped amygdalas and cute aggression.

>>108373153
wtf

why would get rid of the fox logo wtf

fuck that mascot shit

fuck you firefox put the fucking fox back in the logo you fucking cunts

>>108373175
wait, it's just the world? Where's the fox?

>>108373768
Based

who cares about the logo i fullscreen and browse the web big deal lol

>>108373213
Garbo. If it's not a Firefox (Red Panda) what the fuck is the point?

>>108373153
Turbo Garbo, just like the last three redesigns.

Give me that peak WinXP era Firefox UX back, for fucks sake. I'll even take back the .rss bookmark feature.

>>108373153
I need less.

>>108373153
>>108373175
That's gotta be a placeholder icon while it's in testing.

I mostly dislike the frame borders. Not a big fan of the rest either, but eh.

>>108373175
A subtle HAL 9000 reference?

>try out firefox
>internet is slow as fuck
>a ton of webistes straight up don't work that work fine in every other browser

FF is a fucking meme

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Why did they have to change it? There was nothing wrong with pic related.

New fox will be black.

>>108373153
SEX WITH THIS FURRY CREATURE
>group name
Finally group tabs so I can chuck porn in one tab, project documentation on another and game wikis on nths(one tab for each game)?

>>108373153
Oh good, another butthole icon.

>>108373153
its tranny art style.
why do trannies have to ruin everything?

>>108374698
>Finally group tabs
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/tab-groups

>>108373213
straight to E621 with you then

>>108373153
>>108373213
cute mascot

>>108374269
It has never been a red panda thoughever

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>>108373213
Why can't we get a sexy fox?

>>108374821
it's open source change the branding and compile your own build

>>108374594
Tabs on top is better, but I otherwise agree.

looks nice

>>108374786
thought you still needed a separate extension for it, nice
once nova drops, I might try firefox for a while

>>108373153
Why are tabs floating pills instead of... tabs? Do these fucking designers ever look outside their screen to design shit or are we just trying to look like Chrome?

I cannot wait for Ladybird

>>108373153
soulless and will probably ruin CSS shit

>>108373923
Mozilla fired her and replaced her with AI

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>>108373213
There is exactly 0 mention of the fox going back in the logo in that screencap.
They're fucking demons sucking the soul out of everything.

>>108373153
actually i like it

>>108373700
The problem with Zen is that it's riddled with dumb bugs. I switched to vanilla Firefox because of the constant annoyances. But I feel like I'm on a sinking ship anyway.
I mean, once Israel begins importing and microchipping immigrants for their Greater Israel Project and the whole world runs on device attestation and AI surveillance, will they let us have a simple browser that doesn't run by keeping a dildo up the user's ass 24/7? I don't think so.
I'm not even sure personal computers as we know them will still be a thing.

>>108376083
at one point we need to say enough is enough and start protesting against surveillance before it's too late, unless we want to live in dystopian world where the elites run the world and have all the power over us "peasants" (they already do, but now the average joe don't care and don't see it yet, but whenever joe is gonna start noticing or it's gonna start bothering him then this is gonna be point of no return and its already too late - joeover)

>>108373153
Isn't Fuckofox run by literal faggots and trannies.

>>108373213
well at least it is just a firefox and not some furrified or diversified art mascot

>>108373153

Is the menu bar finally going to be a normal size? I’ve hated the oversized buttons along the top since they started it.

>>108373153
I will definitely remove the stupid gaps with my userChrome.css

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>>108373153
Absolute dogshit logo.

>>108373153
it looks good and the couple of contrarian schizos on /g/ee aren't a relevant marketshare for them to chase
obviously it's a bit of a dramatic change but FF needs it so that:
1. it gets talked about again (outside of tech circles where it's only mentioned because its engine sucks compared to Blink)
2. it might get a bit of a second life from people running Arc, which did want a radically different browser UI/UX and got left on the sideways by the retards at the Browser Company when they decided to make this stupid AI browser thing
overall, it's the first decent strategic decision mozilla has done in a while for FF. maybe it pans out, maybe not, but at least it's not just them accepting a slow and inevitable death while squandering their money on retarded brownskins internship and events shit

>>108373153
>more redesign instead of fixing the performance

>>108373153
Kit sexo.

>>108373153
>he didn't jump to waterfox the moment Mozilla announced the AI shit
lmao, enjoy your ram hog clippy wannabe

>>108374826
I, too, love to post meaningless trash

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>>108373175
>>108374553
be glad it's not a butthole

>>108373178
They break certificates on old releases now to force updates.

>>108379249
There's three other circle-within-another-circle logos in the butthole category. Therefore, so is the firefucks logo.

Reminder I stopped using Firefox after 20 years after seeing Wokezilla aka Scamzilla and AIzilla waste donators money on redesigns instead of actually fixing the bugzilla backlog.

>>108373213
All furries should fucking hang

god damn can't you guys just make a good browser already?

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>

>>108379249
It's always the jews. No coincidences.

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>>108373153
>waste money on useless webdevs and AI driven redesigns instead of making Gecko less shit

That's our Mozilla Foundation™!

>>108373153
>algorithmically serving you reddit slop on the new tab page
>algorithmically serving you ragebait news articles on the new tab page
can't wait for yet another about:config tweak to turn some of this shit off or bring back about:blank for new tabs somehow
>both sidebar and top bar
great! less screen space for websites!!!
>everything's rounded
great now add a notch or an island to perfect the mobile phone look idiots

>>108379827
>both sidebar and top bar
>great! less screen space for websites!!!
99% of the websites have absolutely nothing in at least 30% of the horizontal space so the side bar doesn't really take space away. It's completely worthless though.

>>108379313
based

>>108374594
Consider Palemoon. Its that philosophy as a browser.

>>108373153
firewho? what fork of chromium is this?

>2005
>Soulful logo with an actual fire fox

>2026
>a circle
It cannot be simplified more, they hit the bottom this time.

>>108380604
>It cannot be simplified more
In a couple of years its icon is gonna be a monochromatic line.

>>108373153
As long as they don't ruin my vertical tabs after FINALLY making them a native feature I really don't give a shit

>>108373153
I think I'm gonna switch to brave honestly

they've removed the fire and the fox, so it's just nothing now

>>108373153
If it were the base for an animated icon then it would be soul instead, starting out as a purple orb but the fox comes in and curls around it. Too bad that's not how it works though.

>>108376083
the bugs weren't that bad when zen was new. as it is today it is fucked.

>>108379203
let me guess, you use windows and play kernel anticheat mobas

in reality most websites use horizontal space for multiple columns but then dynamically degrade into some mobile layout when i dare resize my browser window smaller than 1100px. so extra junk on the side increases the minimum usable window width and further steals real-estate from my overall multi-window desktop. maximized window users are mentally deficient

they should focus their efforts on making a low-memory version of firefox. in these nightmare ram times it'd probably become the most popular browser overnight

>>108381393
that'd require competent developers, anon

>>108373153
Why do firefox tabs become more round everyday?

I use Zen and I don't care

>>108373153
I'm surprised they haven't changed the fox to a black coloured one with big hair and looped earrings.

>>108373213
> They
Of course the fox is a tranny as well...

>>108381393
Unused ram is wasted ram

>>108373169
keeping trannies employed

>>108373768
>Everything needs to have cute things pastured on it to weed out dysgenic freaks with underdeveloped amygdalas and cute aggression.
What 'she' means is that he want's everyone to be trans and pedophiles.
>>108373732

Firefox has served its original purpose and is now obsolete. It managed to get Internet Explorer to be displaced from the market and now Microsoft has retired internet explorer. But Mozilla should have seen the writing on the wall when Chrome was launched and merged Mozilla with Chromium and Webkit to have a unified open source web engine now we have three projects all haphazardly copying and pasting code from each other instead a single web specification.

Ladybird will be forever playing catchup as well. So much money wasted on Mozilla could be solving real problems in the world like finally making a unified Adobe suite port to Linux.

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>>108373217

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>>108373153
Redesigned like a tranny redesigns his genitals.

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looks like Safari with compact tabs

>>108373153
Fucking hate it.

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>>108373153
if they actually make their vertical tabs experience good maybe it'll actually be everything I wanted from Zen without the retarded amount of bugs. tiled tabs has also been a long time coming.
not sure about the padding and spacing betweens elements but it's small enough that it doesn't bother me too much, will probably look more out of place on my desktop though.

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>>108380604

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>>108374831
>Tabs on top is better
that's because it naturally should always have been a basic OS/wm function rather than something supplied by each and every application.

>>108380875
>vertical tabs
>no trees
what's even the point?

>>108384758
By not making it OS dependent it's easier for programs to cater to more specific use cases and to change. One example is how you can switch tables in excel while still have styles at the top

>>108373403
>y u do dis 2 me troonie?

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>>108373153
>Literally just a fucking circle
>Trannies got paid money to do this

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audacity too

>>108386339
It's a sperm going into a half moon. Moon often a euphemism for the ass. A half moon hinting this is going into that ass. More gay logos.

>>108373153
>lust provoking question
>time wasting image

>>108373193
ff is tick tock, unmaintainable without google money
they are shit testing users for a clean hand-off to ladybird
ff core mission is to lose all users by late 2026

looks like shit

>>108386339
Audacity 2.4.2 still works perfectly fine btw

>>108374594
true

>>108386339
there's bad logos and then there's this

when does it release?

Again? I am sure there are moire important things than to fiddle around with the UI.

>>108388023
kek

>>108373213
>they're
Of course.

>>108373153
Whatever, I'll still be using it because its not Chromium.

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>>108373768
cute aggression is a cringe buzzword but i agree

>>108373153
WHY HAS THE FOX DISAPPEARED FROM THE LOGO?
WHY DOES EVERYTHING HAVE ROUND CORNERS?
WHY?
WHY?
WHY?

>>108373177
This.

>>108391656
Mobile interfaces prefer simplicity.

>>108391656
It's coming back in 3/4 days.
It will just be Kit on the logo now.
See >>108373253 and >>108373213

>>108373153
i'm impressed by how bad the tabs look

Will there be a switch back to the classic theme? Similar to their AI kill switch they introduced in the last version.

>>108393003
Nope.
Also all these images that are posted of the Nova design are "mock-ups". People forgot to mention that part whenever they yapped about it.
The thing will probably not resemble those images even 20%.

Why there is no good fork of firefox if it's open source?

>>108394344
Brother what about Palemoon?

>>108373153
the mascot is ugly boring shitty corporate flat art. no soul. its not cute. its just shit and lame and I don't want to see it. I'd take anything over this shit, literally even like a 14 year old autistic deviantart user's drawing of a fox with floppy knees or a giant balloon stomach or some stupid shit like that. it's just utterly and offensively insipid.

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>>108373153
Firefox gets worse for each release

>>108394344
Zen is good if you like using a sidebar.
LibreWolf/Waterfox are good if you like regular Firefox.
PaleMoon is good if you want to larp like it's 2006.

>>108394515
oh shit nigga what are you doing

New blogpost
https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/firefox-148-149-new-features/

-Free VPN
-Split view window
-Tab notes

Tab notes? Sure I guess. The rest is a hard pass.

>>108373153
The question is will it bring back compact mode without about:config. I dont understand the forcing of tablet UI on desktop

>>108391701
>next week you'll see
So they are confirming it, they killed the fox

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I'll just be using a Gnome theme for FF anyway

>>108373153
>no more fire
>no more fox
>just a purple ball
eh?

>>108373153
Wasn't the "fire fox" originally a red panda? When are they going back to that?

>>108395723
it was originally a phoenix

>>108373153
>Has all of the capability of creating an ecosystem for local web-apps
>Instead relies on people distributing a server with their web-app for absolutely no purpose a server exists to provide
>Has all of the capability to implement modern APIs
>Refuses to
>Has all of the capability of fixing their endless SVG bugs and needless reflow calls
>Refuses to
>Purports itself to be faster than Chrome
>In no category that matters
>Has no need to rebrand
>Does so anyway
>Target audience hates AI
>Adds it anyway
Is there any company more suicidal than Mozilla?

>>108395851
Microslop

>>108395882
Fuck you're right, if I fumbled majority stake in both operating systems and gaming systems as bad as Micrococks I might actually just hang myself

>>108395851
AMD's Radeon division

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>>108395978
Giga cute!

>>108376123
>posted from my iphone

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I wanna do things to the fox bros

Who the fuck cares what the icon looks like. Does the browser work? Does the browser still have the best privacy? Then who cares

>>108396123
Shalom

>>108394978
>Free VPN
funded how?

>>108396170
>NOOOO AGE VERIFICATION IS COMING. ID VERIFICATION IS COMING. AI IS REPLACING TECH JOBS... MUH HARDWARE COSTS MORE THAN A HOUSE NOW BUT I ONLY CARE ABOUT MUH HECKING BROWSER LOGO AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
KYS

>>108395536
it's a red panda

>>108396213
Shalom again

>>108373153
Tranny-adjacent

>>108373153
the source for this is some random german tech blogger
it hasn't been publicly confirmed by mozilla
looking forward to official vertical tabs
will try it for a day and keep using ungoogled-chromium anyway

>>108386339
they already reverted that due to backlash
>>108397040
vertical tabs have been in firefox for awhile

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>>108397262
oh shit you are right
I don't like how nu-FF looks, the constant AI shilling, the nonstop "SIGN IN GOY" or how it render texts though

floorp

>>108397297
Fair enough. I just disabled all the AI stuff through about:config but I believe they added a setting to turn it all off by now. I mainly use firefox because it's the best not-Google thing around rn.

>>108396207
your data to feed into AI

>>108397403
too many unpatched exploits

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>>108373175
Fucking hell. Firefox fork that keeps the old logo? At least I can just change it myself.

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>minimalism in the logo
>bloatware in the code
Uhhhhh

You guys know what most pisses me off about this retarded AI wave? Is the lack of useful things that could be EASILY done with a local AI model.
It's 2026 and all spellcheckers are still the same tech from 1985. Bruh, come on...

>>108373162
Moving shit around for no reason is literally the only thing they do.

And they need all the ad money to do it.

>>108373403
Wow I feel like that fox.

>>108384777
Sure. But the apps are written by modern app developers. LMAO look at Firefox itself.

>>108373164
No kidding. why did they do it
>>108373191
>use about:config
>ctrl+f
>ml
>true/ false depending on paramters
no AI.

>>108373191
Brave does good enough at ad blocking for me.

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>>108373403
for me, it's this one

you can actually select this as your app icon on android

>>108398692
I select 2004 retro

>>108397439
going to give it a try tonight with betterfox tonight
still want to like FF since it is the last browser that lets you use memory cache only without hoops

>>108397262
>they already reverted that due to backlash
Since when? Even months after I thought they were still doubling down.

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>>108402395
Oh they switch it back for awhile but it seems like they just tweaked it a bit. I guess they'll change it for real when the next big version comes out.

>>108373153
Macslop.

>>108373153
i think this retards should start improving actual functionality instead of selling another redesign. but they are dead anyway, nothing would save those retards

>>108373153
Switching to Waterfox was a good decision, clearly.

>>108374698
wheres the porn

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Sorry, but I'm just going to continue using this instead.

>>108373153
That's a lot of wasted dead space

>>108373153
Why can't tabs look like tabs? They make huge borders around everything, then no visible border around inactive tabs.

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They added the fox back. I thought they were going to use Kit, but it's literally just the 2019 logo.

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I like Kit, they should use Kit in the logo.

>>108406206
"Kit was using the newly introduced VPN so they went invisible."
But yeah, pretty fucking retarded.

>>108373153
why are there 7 different firefox browsers nowadays?

>>108406294
Same reason there is a billion of Chromium browsers nowadays

>>108373153
the OOBE is much better now that it's a cute fox rather than soulless diversity corpo art, beyond that idk its same old same old, i dont have an issue with firefox looks, i think its pretty solid just like any big browser. imo they should focus on performance over anything

>>108406206
>>108406219
I mean isn't it already Kit, albeit retroactively? It's not like you can see fine differences on the globohomo ass minimalist logo they use anyway

>>108379781
this, wish there was actual competition between browser engines rather than an endless sea of WebKit slop

>>108386339
>shitty program needs fixing
>acquired by Muse Group who enforce their privacy policy and ToS
>designer from Muse Group steps in
>draws the shittiest logo
>currently attempting to make it a DAW

>>108373153
https://github.com/black7375/Firefox-UI-Fix
not using that new tranny meme theme

>>108406713
ok!

>removing the logo and most furry users
So there will be like 10 users after the update?

>>108406789
How do you remove furry users?

>>108406789
Logo is unchanged, they removed it so they can re-introduce Kit + VPN.
Besides, they literally added paws to tab groups.

>>108406713
I switched to that too. I don't like unnecessary change.

Looks like shit. So it perfectly suits zoomers and alphas tastes.

>>108373153
I think it looks good on macOS, it won't look that well on my GNOME though

>>108373213
>they
>they're a firefox
ayo hol up

>>108398536
erm, buy gramarly subsciption, goy

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this gap was created by the devil

>>108406219
sex with this thing

>>108373153
Made for women, like almost everything in this gay world. WW3 when?

>>108407964
Soon.

>>108407941
What is wrong with it?

>>108373217
First icon is shit to recognize on smartphone screens. You guys are desktop users who don't know the real world.

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>>108410642
They were rebranding on mobile originally with Fennec anyway.
Your point works in reverse too, the mobile icon looks shit on desktop.
>who don't know the real world
They don't understand their mobile users either.

>>108410941
>the mobile icon looks shit on desktop
Werks on my machine

>>108380385
Unacceptably slow. Glacial, even.

>>108382788
Retard, you can run more programs alongside if ff uses less ram.

>>108394448
Too slow, and hangs on the odd website. Lack of extensions.

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I didn't read the thread but if there's a way to remove all of the purple and pink it'd be alright. Thanks for asking.

>>108412022
Sure but then you'll be complaining about how slow FF is or something

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>>108407961
I went into fur affinity just for shit's and giggles I mean it's all ready happening a little bit those damn furrys (God i was some gay Orange man hating zoomie on X did a Pokemon inspired wallpaper) and Jesus christ this new catcha is awful

>>108380385
The amount of polyfills I need to inject with greasemonkey to make half of the internet work on pale meme is unacceptable.

>>108412059
It's just your theme's accent color + tab group colors. Private tab was always Purple.

>>108406713
Bless that project

>>108373153
It's going to break my userchrome.css. Again.

>>108373213
>they're
where do i run from this tranny nonsense?

>>108413554
It's a virtual, made up creature, it cannot have a gender.
It's like saying your PC is a he or a she, just retarded.