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>>108376281Debian is indeed a distro for big-brained people. Fedora and Arch users will forever seethe.
>>108376281Which linux distro has the least tranny libtard community? Debian looks cool but I dont know anything about the community.
13.4 is here guys
>>108376365The least? Fedora. The most? Arch.
>>108376365Slackware is the most old-school and traditional Linux distribution
>>108376365i suppose it depends on why you care. i for one have absolutely no interest in politics, so my choice in os is purely technical, maybe a little philosophical but mainly as it pertains to current and future potential technical decisions. for the most part i don't know the affiliations and preferences of the people who make the software i use, and even where i do (like that the browser i use is made by a homosexual furry), i really could not care less, as long as it doesn't affect the performance of the software they write.
>>108376591I hate politics and sadly leftards cant shut the fuck up about it and they set up situations where you cant stay neutral. Its their mission to find apolitical groups and make them political. Even if you dont interact with them they will make the tech worse buy banning contributors who dont share their views.
>>108376630i see, so you're pretty much like me, but perhaps less intentionally ignorant (i find it's better for my mental health to simply not check at all). naturally i can't give any specific recommendations myself, as that would require me to have checked many of them, but i fear many who /have/ checked are likely by consequence to have a strong bias on the subject. this is how politics feels to me anyway, you're fucked either way.
>>108376630Then you won't like Debian. Debian is more ideological than most distros (Enough that with some qualifications about non-free firmware and repos the GNU project even recommends it), has a robust social contract, and has infamously kicked developers for reasons other than "your code is bad" though this is extremely rare. Debian withdrew from posting on twitter too, who cares but it's there. In practice you can just use the damn software on any distro and not care regardless and Debian has plenty of boomers doing just that. Your best bet is probably BSDs honestly. OpenBSD is explicitly software first and as non-political as possible.
mpv on hyprland is broken, again, due to some hdr shit.
>>108376794BSD sucks ass>>108376630Debian KDE is the white man's distro.
>>108376913I guess just wait for an update. Or put up an issue on the github.
>>108376281What's the difference between a default font and a monospace font? Why does linux need to differentiate between the two?
>>108376942Monospace fonts are used as terminal or coding/config fonts.
>>108376921last time it was something about hyprland not giving mpv some values it needs/wants, but there was a config option you could set to fix it. This fix apparently doesn't work anymore. Workaround with using gpu instead of gpu-next works for now, will have to properly look into it when I don't have a migraine.
>>108376310They live rent free in your head as accurately depicted in the meme
>>108376960Any good pixel monospace fonts? Fonts that mimic dos and early computer terminals also welcome.
if i go with Debian, but I need the latest packages, what will you do? homebrew?
>>108377047I like Terminus
>>108377057>homebrewThis sounds like something only mentally ill people would use
>>1083770571. flatpaks2. distrobox3. nix (or guix if you're a gigautist)4. homebrew5. compile it yourself (best option to get the latest and most compatible software but it will be managed by you)
>>108376918>*krashes*>on debianyeah, its very smart to use something unstable on a frozen system.>>108377057if you need the latest for everything just use fedora, or debian testing. want to be worryfree about proprietary stuff? consider an arch flavour.
>>108377057you stop using debian
>>108377057Most use Flatpak if they want truly up to date software on a Debian Stable install.
>>108376942monospace means all the characters have the same width, your regular fonts have different widths for charactersFor example, the following lines contain the same number of characters but appear to have different widths:iiiiiiiiiiaaaaaaaaaaif you use a monospace font then the would align like this:iiiiiiiiiiaaaaaaaaaa>>108377047Terminus is available on most distrosFor other options see:https://github.com/Tecate/bitmap-fonts
iiiiiiiiiiaaaaaaaaaa
>>108377063Eh, it doesn't speak to me but I appreciate the recommendation.>>108377125>monospace means all the characters have the same widthoh gotcha, but why can I set non-monospaced fonts in the monospace option? Why does Appearance even have a monospace option?>>108377125>Terminus is available on most distrosAs said above to another anon, not much into it>https://github.com/Tecate/bitmap-fontsThanks, I'll check it out.
>>108377099Post beef.
>>108376794NTA but OpenBSD filesystem sucks ass and does not even have journaling, I know at least one person who lost all their data because of a power outage while running OpenBSD.At least recommend FreeBSD which has ZFS and much better hardware support than OpenBSD, yes it's less secure but that's an acceptable trade off for most users unless you're using it as a server
>>108377099Beef
>>108377140>why can I set non-monospaced fonts in the monospace option? Why does Appearance even have a monospace option?Because Linux gives you all the options, even if they don't make sense, you have the option to delete your root directory, but of course what options you choose are up to you.Also some people do like to use monospace fonts everywhere because you can easily compare line lengths at a glance and also it looks easier on the eyes
>>108377165I wonder if its the same indian on /adv/ who also posts schizo anti-indian hate and pretends to have a girlfriend all day and gets banned multiple times.
>>108377180>Because Linux gives you all the options, even if they don't make senseI was more asking if it works, you'd think when they were designing a menu this would have come up.
>>108376281I hate debian because there are people who pronounce it as de-bian instead of deb-ian. I have no idea which pronunciation is correct but "de-bian" drives my fucking autism crazy for some reason.
>>108377165>you're brown if you meme about my DEswing and a miss, enjoy your krashes.
>>108377228Just tell them it's a portmanteau of Debra and Ian.
>>108377239Is it?
>>108377239>>108377228Another words, it's the second one, it's Deb (as in Debra) Ian (as in ian). Deb-ian. You wouldn't say Deebian, or De-bian, etc.
>>108377254Yes, the guy that's dead now literally named the distro after him and his girlfriends names. Look it up.
>>108377228Your transcriptions are not clear. Are you trying to say that people wrongly pronounce it as Deebian? Or perhaps De-bye-an?
>>108377228Of all the reasons to hate debian this is the dumbest one. You hate it because people mispronounce its name? Wow. If people start mispronouncing your name, will you hate yourself?
>>108377057I use Homebrew on Debian, it's good for command line stuff. For GUI stuff there's always flatpaks and snaps. I guess it depends on the particular software. E.g. I use Homebrew for the GitLab CLI (since that's the recommended installation method from GitLab) and for the GitHub CLI I've added their deb repo (again, it's the recommended installation method)
>>108377266de-bian like lesbian, dee-bian>debyeannever heard of that one, I hate it.>>108377277>If people start mispronouncing your name, will you hate yourself?They don't need to, I already do.
Why is Debian the only distro that proudly calls itself GNU/Linux? you would think more distros would use that but no, Arch calls itself Arch Linux not Arch GNU/Linux, yet another reason that makes me think arch is filled with shitters
>>108377228I originally assumed it was "dee-bee-an" but then I saw it's named after Ian and his then-girlfriend Deb, and thus it's pronounced "deb-ee-an"
>de-bian or deb-iandoesnt that sound the same.>>108377236i dont get the new meme, do kde fags are really that sensitive to facts? ive used kde, it is not stable and krashes sometimes, my point is that youll get bug fixes on something that is not frozen.
>>108376371I didn't notice anything after updating.Just as God intended.
>>108377300And yet, the FSF won't touch them with a 10-feet pole. Linux just sounds better than GNU/Linux and nothing the FSF will say can change this.
>>108377331no its changes the pronunciation and the stress of the word depending if your shift the b to the first or second syllable.>If you don't know how syllable stress works the caps are the syllables being stressed (aka they are being pronouncing the most within the word)DEB-iandee-BIANThey sound completely different
>>108377331What the fuck are you doing to it to make it Krash so much?I daily drive Plasma and worst that would happen is Plasma Shell may occasionally Krash (not often) and will be restarted within seconds momentarily. Literally a total nothingburger. It's not an issue. You'd have more problems if GNOME Shell crashed (it's monolithic so takes out your entire desktop instead of restarting a few seconds later like on KDE)
>>108377370>Literally a total nothingburger.McDonalds in India got a new burger too? :^)
>>108377291>>108377228Which pronunciation do you take issue with? Number it please: https://voca.ro/1nXqLWcQ3cSz
>>108377370kde crashes my tv connected to my computer when i wake it up from suspend
>>108377409Why are you doing this to me?
>>108377414Just answer the question
>>108377413No, your GPU driver crashes when you wake it up from suspend.
>>108377413>kde crashes my tv
KrashTV
>>108377409>De-buyin'>Deba'inKekked
>>108376630>I hate politics>only talks about politics in this threadAre you tired of winning yet as trannies live rent free in your thick skull?>>108377331No clue why KDE tards can’t accept that their DE is buggy as fuck and krashes way more than any DE should.
>>108377459>Are you tired of winningnta, but no I'm not.
>>108377431we're reaching levels of krashes unimaginable here.
>>108377498Dude I krashed my car the other day, I was just so angry at Plasma 6.6.2 that I swerved into a group of children and hit a brick wall. Fucking krashed those kids too kek
>>108377409really nice, so the first one is what most people use, while the second one is what you believe to be right? >>108377356
>>108374748Thanks for your insight. I was considering putting /home on a separate partition in case I wanted to switch distros eventually, or if something bad happened to the root partition for example, basically I wanted to keep /home separate from anything else. So CachyOS and btrfs already handle that natively?
>>108377687Oh and another question, the target system will be a rather old HP Elitebook 840 G5 with a 8th gen i7 in it (i7-8650U), wouldn't compression slow it down, even with zstd:1?
>trying to open spotify on fedora>keeps crashing>see logs>something about file descriptor limit reached>wut>ask AI>tells me to see how many I have up>1million+>the fuck>1/3rd of those are from gnome shell>tells me to just restart my computer cause shit is too fucked to fix any tips on how to prevent this? Is this like a memory leak somewhere? I'm gonna upgrade to latest version to see if that fixes it, was on 42
>>108377713NTA but I have an i7-8550U and I use btrfs with zstd:3 and don't notice any slowdowns
>>108377734Alright, thanks!I checked the CachyOS wiki and they say it ships with zstd:3 by default anyway.
>>108377475:) happy for ya then!
>>108377740thats what archinstall set it to for me as well
>>108377740Strange, when I installed CachyOS 2 days ago and checked after install it was using zstd:1 in /etc/fstab, not sure if they give that option in the installer
>>108377618No I say deb-ian
>>108377777only nvme drives get zstd:1 by default from what i see in this PRhttps://github.com/CachyOS/wiki/pull/322
>>108377786oooh that explains it since i had an nvme drive
Speaking of btrfs compression, what's this I hear about negative compression levels, anyone tried them out here?
>>108377618The first one is the correct pronunciation while the other three are just wrong
>>108376281I'm sad and lonely what linux distro should I use and/or which one will fix it for me?inb4 gentoo
Why did elementary OS die? It used by recommended as a general purpose distro to consider using years ago.
>>108378087>what linux distro should I useArch, Debian, Fedora or Gentoo.>which one will fix it for meNone of them. Go outside, take some sun, and touch grass.
>>108378162>None of them. Go outside, take some sun, and touch grass.I'm allergic to grass and the sun burns my skin.
>>108378161flavor of the time, new things come out, its no longer considered "shiny and new" and those people move on. Current recs are CatchyOS or some other Arch fork because they are flashy and new.
What's the difference between GNU and UNIX and why does the gay little search bar AI say that Ubuntu is neither then turns around and says "It's GNU btw".
What does a guiless boot look like? Just a terminal window?
>>108378253>terminal windowYeah, but its called a CLI and its not a window but essentially pic related.
>>108378253What do you mean? The UI of GNU/Linux without GUI looks exactly like what you see if you press Ctrl+Alt+F5 for example. You can come back from that by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F2 or Ctrl+Alt+F7 I think?
>>108378221look up what the GNU acronym means
>>108378289GNot Unix?
>>108378286I feel like if I don't look this up its going to brick my system.
>>108378161The main audience of elementaryOS were mac users, people who thought other DEs look ugly and people who wanted an "easy" Linux distro. Linux got much easier to use in the past 5 years in general and many other distros fill the "ease of use" niche much better than elementary. GNOME and KDE are much, much better now compared to 8 years ago while Pantheon is still stuck in 2017 similar to Cinnamon. Meanwhile macfags moved on to Fedora and GNOME.
>>108378320>GNOMEI like the name but I hate the style, but apparently I'm the minority since the last time I checked, the majority of traceable Linux users (or at least downloads) where for GNOME.
>>108378286>>108378316(Me)Holy shit thanks, I didn't realize you could do this! Now I can practice using a CLI on my spare time! Is there a way to change the welcoming text when you log in?
>>108378327That's because it is the default DE in Ubuntu and Fedora which have the majority of Linux users. Fedora only recently made KDE an equally advertised choice of DE, while Kubuntu is tucked away behind 4 clicks on the Ubuntu website so only the GNOME edition is advertised.It turns out even on Linux most people just stick with defaults. But when given a choice people prefer KDE over GNOME. KDE is the most popular DE among Arch users and Fedora KDE is more popular on Steam compared to Fedora Workstation.
>>108378343I dont really see the point in doing that when you can practice using a CLI in a regular terminal emulator.
>>108378327No one I know likes gnome
>>108378377Too much going on in the GUI when I have terminal up and I easily get distracted, switching over to just the CLI makes it easier for me to focus and practice rather than find it too hard in the moment then impulsively click a youtube video or something.
>>108378253I can only attest to systemd-based distros because that's all I've used recently. First you will see kernel log messages. Then when systemd starts you see systemd log messages. Then eventually you will see a login prompt like pic related.
>>108378387How much ADHD can you have?
>5430 packets transmitted, 1644 received, +102 errors, 69.7238% packet loss, time 5523042msfuck my isp
>>108378390Yeah mine does the same on Xubuntu, is there a way to change the "welcome/start text" after you log in?>>108378393There are amounts you can have?
>>108378401>intercepting your packages just to fuck you with>not even doing anything nefarious>just doing it to make you pay more for their premium servicelol
>>108376365Artix
>>108378435DSL keeps having hickups and it's not funny
>>108377057Really depends on how much you want to tinker and which packages you're after.You're better off just using a different distro though instead of dealing with the headache of multiple package managers
>>108377057You use Debian Unstable
>>108377165This shit is still just your made up schizo hallucination no matter how many times you post it.I've used plasma 5 and 6 on both an x220, x230, and t420 without any performance issues or bugs and the only reason i never stay on plasma is because im a minimalistfag that uses i3 or sway and doesn't need a full desktop.
>>108377047Don't know if they're what you're looking for but i use IBM Plex Mono and Code New Roman
>>108378501Can you please not pipe your experiments into the thread?
>>108377125Are bitmap fonts better or worse than the other type?
>>108377047>Fonts that mimic dos and early computer terminalsboy do i have the site for youhttps://int10h.org/oldschool-pc-fonts/
>>108376281I feel dumb for asking this, but where do you guys store things that aren't documents? I usually just throw everything that isn't a video, music, or picture into documents but its become way to disorganized now and I kinda want my documents folder to just be filled with documents, so then where would I stick things that aren't don't fit anywhere? At Home?
>>108378638>Documents, Music, Pictures, Public, Templates, VideosAll empty.>DesktopHolds folders for my projects.>DownloadsEverything else, completely unorganized. When it gets too large I just move files onto my external HDD where I actually organize stuff and I delete shit I don't need.
>>108378662I've kinda been doing that but the problem is that I don't sort the hdd, like ever.
>>108378537what do you mean by "better" or "worse"? the best fonts are the ones you find easiest to read and look at.However I will say that unlike regular fonts, bitmap fonts do not scale well to any size, usually bitmap fonts are available only in one or few different sizes.
>>108378638~/stuff
>>108378703Are you the same anon that has like 5 folders on your desktop named "stuff1,stuff2,...stuff 5,old stuff" in the Desktop thread?
>>108378708No. To be more precise I don't store any important data in my home folder. My important data is on a different drive mounted at /mnt/data. I symlinked /mnt/data/stuff to ~/stuff and similarly for documents, pictures, etc.
>>108378537bitmap fonts are generally more useful at small sizes, you can go really tiny and stay somewhat legiblethey do not scale, though, and will only render at select, fixed sizesfor large text, vector fonts are better and will look better (and can be smoothed)
a stupid retarded question: i notice on cachyos my vsync is always on and i learned that wayland kwin is using by default via kernel optimisation a forced synchronous via compositor and vblankit synchronizes rendering to the display’s vblank by defaultso i am trying to turn it off since it affecting my games globally even if i turn off vsync via game's settings it still forces vsync i even tried to ask AI models but they pulling old ass threads from plebbit's asshole. can i somehow turn off vsync (wayland's vblank/compositor whatever it is) globally on cachyos? did it even occurred to you as well?
>>108378807why the hell would you want to have tearing?Anyway, it's not a cachyos thing, it's a wayland compositor thing. It's possible on hyprland, dunno about kwin.
>>108378807Apparently you can add "KWIN_DRM_NO_AMS=1" to the "/etc/environment" file and reboot.
>>108378837this is what that ai chat told me too. cant trust it since i tried it and it didn't work unless i did it wrong
>>108378834because it gives you more fps and performance duh unless this optimisation just turns off tearing by force while allowing more fps and performance either way but i cant trust it since i never tested it in depth with tearing and without on wayland compositor
>>108378864>it gives you more fps and performance?is this what the ai chatbot told you as well?
>>108378864>gives you more fps and performanceHow would that work anon? If you're seeing every frame your monitor can give you how can you have more fps?iirc the reason people turned off vsync is that when it's implemented in games, the game logic and input might also be tied to frames, so extra unseeable frames could make the game more responsive etc. But if the compositor is the one removing tearing, the game logic shouldn't be effected, no?
>>108378886nta but vsync may reduce your fps from something like 45 to 30. (your monitor can handle more)This was a common thing like 2 decades ago when vsync was still new and many people would have rather had 45 than 30 fps.Nowadays, it shouldn't be an issue anymore, you should easily have 60fps with vsync at least (and probably even more).
What do you use to manage Bookmarks? Usually I try to note down and archive anything that interests me, but 90% of the time I don't care enough yet, or I just need that link as a reference for something later, or is junk I haven't finished reading yet like a mail list. I switch back and forth between browsers (I like Firefox but it has shoddy support for WebGL and other shit so whatever Chromium build that comes by default in Fedora it is) so their built-in managers don't cut. They also are kinda shit to be honest (Chromium browsers don't even support tags) I considered using a service like Raindrop, but I don't trust ze cloud. This sounds insane but anyone has tried to sync a SQlite database using rclone? I considered using this https://github.com/jarun/buku but don't wanna bother with hosting (for now). Or is there any place where I could host this for cheap? (Cmon there has to be something, think less than 20 bucks per year, this shit is a 99.9% read 0.1% write cluster with a single autist using it).
>>108378882no it was a common thing back then or was still a thing for me since i used old hardware. are you a new borner?
