One of the only good ISPs in America being sold off. Grim.
>>108377675I remember they were giving it away for free in Kansas City back in the day. Sad.
>>108377675forgot link https://archive.is/31wYh
>>108377675explain why this is a bad thing without sounding like a commie trannoid
>>108377675fell for it again award
>>108377675Starlink exists now. Google were never going to make inroads trying to build ISP on the ground
>>108377759>this worse alternative exists nowreally dude? you're never going to beat the reliability of fiber
>>108377675i have brightspeedwhen the dude showed up at my door he said it was state subsidized and my 1gb up and down fiber plan will be $65 a month foreverits good internet too. never have an issue with it
>>108377707competition is good for the consumer and the soul of business so this is just more monopolistic bullshit
>>108377707commies are the ones defending monopolies retardcapitalist are the ones defending competence
>>108377675gfiber 8gig is pretty nicethey almost always give me a credit for "outages" that I never notice
>>108377759...are you trying to compare starlink to fiber? Are you retarded?
>>108377825>>10837788410+ million customers with highspeed low latency global internet vsfew thousands? tens of thousands? in some small local areaSorry bro, the goal of Google Internet was to bring high speed internet around the world and the local fiber thing failed. Fortunately, google invested in SpaceX and the real program of bringing internet everywhere on earth succeeded. Now there are almost no place on earth (except some communist and authoritarian countries or corrupt ones) where high speed low latency internet isnt an option. And they go for dirt cheap down to $30/m in third world countries like Germany and Europe
>>108377905and yet it has jitter and packet loss out the ass and still has severe congestion issues
>>108377876Incorrect. Winners are defending monopolies because it allows them to keep winning. Losers are the ones standing against monopolies because they already lost.
>>108377961And google fiber just raped your mother and father as well, whats the difference?
>>108377905They aren't comparable services anon...
>>10837797499% of people who use internet cannot meaningfully tell difference between 400Mbps and 1Gbps.
>>108377980Sure they can, especially with latency.
>>10837800299.9% cannot tell the difference between 5 ms and 20 ms using the internet in any meaningful fashion0.1% are liars
I am so glad I left that country. Some retard is screeching about commies in a thread complaining about the quality of internet service providers on a technology board. Meanwhile I live in the middle of nowhere in a third world country surrounded by rice fields and I have actual fiber internet. I had it before I had running water even!
And Netomnia, one of the few 8 gigabit providers in the UK was sold to Virgin Media :(.
>>108378037Use your inferior tech then and stop making it everyone else's problem. It costs more money for worse speeds and latency. We used it for a couple projects at my work involving remote sites but it's not going to cut it for my home connection.
>>108378037You definitely can if you're doing something where that matters (like gaming) but mostly 5-20ms differences are server based more than anything. Regardless, starlinks whole purpose is when you live in the middle of nowhere. If you choose starlink while in a city with fiber and gigabit cable options you're just a literal retard.
>>108378053>10 million customers world wide>thousands of airplanes now have highspeed internet>used by military worldwide>cost less than google fiber>makes more profit than google fiber>30,000 space lasers that can connect any person anywhere on the planetSorry but superior internet has arrived, if Google Fiber was so much superior, they wouldnt have to sell off their loss leading product.
>>108378043It really is awesome how we spent billions on fiber over 25 years ago as a country and adults at the time let the cable companies pocket the money and not finish the job.
>>108378076>>108378037You can also tell when you're not connecting to some CDN where you're getting the best case scenario and it's getting stacked onto already high latency. Degrading your internet because you love the reddit doge meme man isn't worth it.
>>10837807680% of the world does not have fiber30-40% of the world are rural areathats 4-6+ billion with no access to high speed internetStarlink isn't just for "middle of nowhere" its for half the world or more. Hell, even in cities, you can get left behind on fiber/copper line and only access being shitty cell or old dsl that frequently disconnects and has high latency.
>>108378101>make up fake issues
>>108378105You can't say 40% of the world is rural then say it isn't for the middle of nowhere
>>108378114I wish 300ms ping was fake. I wish sshing into servers under those conditions didn't cause me so much pain. I could use MoSH but that's abandonware isn't it?
>>108377759>I'm retarded and suck Musk's dickYou didn't have to post.>make inroads trying to build ISP on the groundGround will always be better, moron.You should've said:>Google's issue was trying to get approval in cities instead of big-dicking itself and promising the fiber would be municipal'd within a few years.They did like 2-3 cities and then stopped because cities didn't want to let them break ground.It's the same reason my shitty college town had a monopoly with Cox for like 25 years until IQ, Pavlov and AT&T got permits from the town to break ground to run fiber in various areas of the town to where Cox freaked out and started to run Fiber of their own.>>108377876>>108377707>>>/pol/Go back.Kill yourselves BTW.
>>108378124Starlink works anywhere on the planet. And thats set to increase their bandwidth by 100X over the next few years. Cities will have competition, especially since cities already serve wireless internet capabilities as well. >>108378130>300 ms ping on starlinkYou must have confused Starlink with a normal 4G phone internet or some shitty Viasat satellite>>108378135>immediately thinks about sucking Musk's dickAre you having penis envy or something?
>>108378135>They did like 2-3 cities and then stopped because cities didn't want to let them break ground.Also I typed this and hit send, I forgot the latest Google fiasco:>Wants to build a Data Center>Runs into cities going "LMAO fuck no" to themIronically enough, I'm with the cities on THIS one (because there is no fucking benefits to those data centers) but Google really should've circumnavigated cities and laid lines as fast as possible. They could've strangle'd multiple ISP's (including big ones) if they used their multi-Billions to lay lines across the US as quickly as possible (especially since Fiber was new at the time).But instead they didn't and now the thing is a money loser.I expect "Google Fi" or whatever they're calling their Mobile offering to be next on the chopping block because they can't "disrupt" the pay-per-month/non-contract mobile services despite being cheaper.
>>108378130keep making things up, I have Starlink and its great, show some screenshots if you aren't just mad at Musk lmaoit was this or DSL lol, but honestly I had gigabit before this and it's barely any worse, regularly hit 400+ mbps
>>108378156Cities give monopolies to ISPs, by law, communism is gated
whoops, can't have too many 1st world amenities outside the Hustle & Bustle™ of the City!
>>108378151300ms to a distant server you fucking imbecile. Do you think ping to every single destination on the internet is the same? Do you understand what the digits represent? Why would I want to make it worse in the worst case scenarios? Being okay in the best case scenarios doesn't justify that.
>>108378156>I expect "Google Fi" or whatever they're calling their Mobile offering to be next on the chopping block because they can't "disrupt" the pay-per-month/non-contract mobile services despite being cheaper.Starlink Mobile is a thing thats starting to happen, directly beaming 100 Mbps internet to regular phones from satellite. Google's ~5-6% investment into Starlink really payed off for their ambition of bringing internet everywhere. RIght now the plan is working with telcos to link as backup, but I think SpaceX Mobile is going directly to phones bypassing telcos
>>108378158Yeah bro, 8.8.8.8 that uses fucking anycast to direct you to a server that's relatively nearby gives you the same kinds of pings I get to regional hubs. It's going to be the same when I connect to a server anywhere in the world. This is how the internet works.
>>108378176how does mobile phone work? Doesn't starlink acess require a phased array antenna?
>>108378171If its 300 ms from starlink, then its 300ms from fiber. Your argument isnt about starlink, its about physics of space-time. Starlink's latency is only an issue for servers thats under <600km or so where they have to go handshake 300 km to space few times. Once the there's ~1000km, the 20 ms latency penalty disappears, starlink is basically same as traditional fiber in terms of latency. Further on, if its >10,000 km, Starlink has distinct advantages due to highspeed direct laser routing in space.
>>108378185>>108378171holy shit it's a complete retard who randomly started talking about latency to distant servers when everyone was comparing Starlink and seems to be trying to just confuse everyone on the threadis it an LLM?
>>108378189They already work with variety of phones on the current market via T-mobile in US/Europe and some other carriers in other countries like Japan and also Africa. But those are for text msg, low speed voice calls, etc. I've actually no idea how the Starlink Mobile thing will work, but they're saying next gen phones will have newer antennas in the phones designed by Qualcom/Samsung/Apple to improve throughput and capabilities of sat connections.
>>108378194No if it's 300ms from fiber it's 320+ms from starlink. Why make already bad situations worse? It's still pants on head goddamned retarded to use Starlink if you don't need to. It's slower, more expensive, and has worse latency. You can downplay the latency to cape for your favorite ketamine addict but it does nothing to fix the other two issues. I'm glad I have access to real internet.
>>108377759>I am a fucking retardHow do you think starlink works lmao
>>108378216obviously you don't use Starlink if you have acess to better internet that's the whole fucking point, what a retarded statement, you just wasted everyone's time with multiple vague posts to point out the obvious.
>>108378197Why the fuck else would I be bringing up ssh performance with 300ms of ping? What do you think the internet is for, just running ping 8.8.8.8 from your Microslop OS? Only connecting to fagman servers and cloudflare shit with full CDN backing? There's money to be made here anon and the tesla man ain't helping in that regard.
>>108378216The 20ms latency penalty only applies because starlink is connecting to ground station/space thats 300 km away but the local connection needed is only <600 km or so. With a fiber, you directly route from ground to ground to server, so you dont need that extra 300 km hops. once you cross the 600-1000km barrier for the server location, the 20 ms latency penalty disappears because the routing in space and to the ground becomes more extremely efficient matching fiber. The 300 km to space becomes a natural pathway towards the 1000km server destination where the starlink beams to sat in space and sat in space beams the internet out to gateway thats closest to 1000km. Its even more efficient for longer distance because the sat routes to other sats in space via lasers bypassing long distance cumbersome/non-direct fiber connections over geographical features.
>>108378239>there is no monetary use for Starlink access in the middle of nowhere because it adds 20 ms of lag to a 300 ms connectionyep, actual retard, you are using all 100 of your brain cells to obsessively hate on Musk
>>108377689It was always about bringing fiber across the Rockies and connecting data-centers in the Midwest to their headquarters west of the rocky mountains. They needed that done and now that the infrastructure was built in their best interest it doesn't matter what company they hand it off to. The lines will always be directed to Google even if they sell them to somebody else.
>>108378257>Its even more efficient for longer distance because the sat routes to other sats in space via lasers bypassing long distance cumbersome/non-direct fiber connections over geographical features.Never happened. Musk said he would do it, it was just another mars colony that he used to get his foot in the door.
>>108378282Its already happening dumbass. There are 30,000 lasers on starlinks communicating with each other to find the optimal routing, this is extremely noticible in countries or regions where ground stations dont exist, so their only mode of transport is through starlink inter laser coms.
>some retard is trying to actually say starlink is better than any wired connection0/10
>>108378303Here comes the retarded AI summarizer
>>108378307How dare he doubt the space lazars pew pew
Starlink is better than any other internet because it is your space age link to the stars. Blaze your glory at incredible speeds previously only achievable with a cable modem at 2x the price of using one of those, except it's in space so it's totally rad dude. We can't have a discussion about fiber without me talking about the amazing space laser technology because I love it so much.
>>108378307>he thinks I'm gonna use AII'm not a zoomer
>>108377876>commies are the ones defending monopolies retardloool tard
>>108378344>>108378325>>108378373AI bots
>>108377707You know how gaming is shit because muh corpo? Well that's the future for your google fiber. No refunds. The entire private equity racket is consolidate, load up on debt and enshitify. So, for some smug retard to sit here and go "heh, muh capitalism stay winning" is blowing my mind. It's unreal how fucking stupid you cunts are.
This thread proves, once again, that this board is filled to the brim with retards.
