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Good news, by 2027 you too can fix starfields lighting with dlss 5https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZlwTtgbgVA
if Nvidia actually ships DLSS5 as they showed it just now, I'm jumping ship to AMD and/or killing myself
>Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (Extremely loud)wat
>>108386989I'm with you.
What's the direct Intel competitor for 9800x3d? Liek for real. Intel is competly buried and dead.
deepcool fk120
I will sell my 9070 and switch to nvidia if they ship dlss5 as promised.imagine the cooms and reddit tears>noooooo you supposed to stare at the ugly strong female characterdlss 5 is the choice of chads.
My good old Corsair AX1200i has failed self test :(. What is a good psu for 7800x3d and 5070.Im not looking to do any upgrades for at least few years. Is 850 okay or should I go for 1000W?
>>108387068get a 650w
>>108387017intel doesn't care about gaming. they do better multicore than amd.
>>108386956>*Multiple issues reported on AM5 CPUs. Tread carefully.So are these threads just made by spergy Nvidia shills now? I can't imagine being smug after the DLSS5 reveal.
>dealing with old hardware>graphics card fan is noisy as a cunt>power and reset button's springs barely work, buttons takes long or gets stuck when pressed>apply contact cleaner to both>buttons feel great, work amazing>fan stops being noisy>10 minutes later>button works like shit again>fan is noisy as hell againcan i just put like WD40 on these things or something?
>>108387085>WD40that shit would clean the rest of the oil that is in there and make it worse.
>>108386956TOTAL AMD DEATH
>buy gpu for stats>it looks like a clown show
>>108387101>TOTAL UE5 DOMINATION
>>108387114should have bought a hellhound
The internet crowds reactions to DLSS 5seem to mostly come from children who dont own nvidia gpus? They use hyperbolic statements where they fixate only on the graces character being sloppified and seem to not understand how reality works.For one it's a preview of a feature that wont come out for a while. In its current state it showcases what it can do, which is incredibly impressive and unexpected.What future models can do is different, since its nvidia and they have the resources and will to work on new visual technologies. What we saw today is a wip.They dont understand nvidia gpu owners can go into program settings and switch model presets at will since all the models work on all rtx cards. If they dont like new dlss model their fallback is the transformer model. The models implementation is tweakable, the dev can change parameters or flag some aspects to not be filtered. Different games have more positive impact, like starfield looks obviously better since the base lighting sucks. The model impacts other things besides character faces, like the environment which looks better, shockingly.The devs who have access to the tool can use it during development to make sure the end result is better.Then if you want photorealistic visuals you need AI to do the heavy lifting, this is the only path forward.tldr: total child death
>>108386989>>108386998Nvidia going to make everybody's waifus 3dpd.
>>108387121The trend I'm noticing on Youtube and Twitter is that ESL countries praise DLSS5 while English countries hate it.
>>108387118>Not getting the reva edition.Shiggity
>>108387093what do i put in then!!!
Check out the downvotes
>>108387135looks like slopglue>>108387137i use chain oil for bikes
>>108387137use silicone oil. the same stuff kids put in fidget spinners to make them spin better.
>>108387139Youtube doesnt have downvotes actually.
>>108387093Wd40 is just fish oil in an aerosol can.>>108387137>what do i put in then!!!Probably a wear issue not a lubrication or cleaning issue. You could try everything under the sun but if the parts tolerances are shot you're fucked unless you can find a replacement fan.
>>108387114>>108387118>>108387135kneel bitches
>>108387114>>108387118>>108387135>>108387194I still think the Vega 64 is the sexiest looking card they've ever released.
>>108387085If a fan is noisy you replace the fan.
Wow AMD retards are literally going to kill themselves. It's like loss after loss. But don't worry DLSS 5 is bad till AMD rips it off and poorly implements it 25 years from now like every other technology NVIDIA pioneers.
>>108387174Thumbs Downs then
>>108387194Stop projecting.
>>108387121>if you want photorealisticThats the thing i dont, every game looks the same these days, these tools will just make devs even lazier and not try new things. Every big budget game for like the past 10 years is a 3rd person over the shoulder rpg/soulslike and now with this garbage all characters will look the same too.
>>108387225Not to sound like a Steve, but that plastic blocking the fans triggers me.
>>108387194not buying a 3 slot gpunot buying a 3 8 pin gpunot buying a 330mm+ gpu>>108387204nope that would be the xfx rx 480 since they bothered to put a backplate on the gpu that actually matches the nice design of the reference cards. it did it even better than what amd did with their vega 56 and 64 cards (the one you didn't post).
>>108387212nigger show fps counter for both and zoom out this picture tells me nothing im not playing my games 4x zoomed in
>>108387204I got an 1080ti instead but I agree.especially the water cooled version, it was so fucking awesome. I was lucky it was slightly more expensive than a 1080ti because I almost went with it.
>>108387242like what the hell is this (the load leds are cool tho)
>>108387233You know you can turn it off. They still need to make ugly characters for the AMD guys.
>>108387250It literally looks like shit at all resolutions. Ray Regeneration looks like your GPU is dying.
>>108387135>>108387225>>108387258kys
>>108387204>sexiestNo, but all the vega cards where esthetic from a minimalist perspective (especially the frontier edition).
>>108387258it's fucked up to think that creature is just a guy, it's a mammal, even though it looks like a fish it has a fully functional fleshy tongue and everything fucking look at it
>>108387225for me, its the sakura atlantis
>>108387135>>108387225>>108387258>>108387329why don't they start putting good looking girls on gpus? i bet they could sell a lot of them that way, no?
>>108387139MFW DLSS5
>>108387274>Ray Regeneration looks like your GPU is dying.it really doesthe image gets so blurry and stuttery you think the driver is gonna just crash at any moment
>>108387233I want to see it in action myselfits more appealing than what some devs manage with existing tech
>>108387288Its fucked up to think that a dolphin's equilibrium is inverted, and some sea lion's eyes face their back.
>>108387344they should start putting this tech into glasses so i don't have to look at ugly people anymore.
>>108387360In the future zoomzoomz will have augmented reality glasses.
hottest dlss5 meme finally dropped:
>>108387370jesus christ man you made milk come out of my nose
>>108387233With this tech you should also be able to prompt the way you want it to look likenot just the cheap "realistic Flux chin" they demoed
>>108387356>gives every female chud linesand niggas are saying this is going to unwokeify characters KEK
>>108387368lucky bastards
this new filter is how third worlders see white people. not a fan.
>>108387340>i bet they could sell a lot of them that way, no?I've heard of places in Japan, Taiwan, and Vietnam that make them, but I don't think they're big operations or sell/market them internationally. Something something gallapagos syndrome.
>>108387356I'd like to see it on Cyber punk as well. CP and Starfield has some fugly characters. Maybe Horizon as well. That bitch was gross.
>>108387435i know a dude that looks like her. he is also fat.
>>108387370That was funny, I laughed.
imagine if we could enable dlss 5 on twitch, x, instagram, onlyfans...
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/rtx-technology-dlss-dxr/37/583738/dlss-5-faq/>Cinematic Lighting: Reconstructs complex effects like rim lighting, subsurface scattering for realistic skin, and contact shadows with high-fidelity.>Material Depth: Enhances PBR properties like roughness and adds micro-realism to complex objects such as eyes and hair.>How does DLSS 5 work to achieve photorealism?>DLSS 5 is a neural rendering model that takes the game’s color and motion vectors as input for each frame, then infuses the scene with photoreal lighting and materials that are anchored to the source 3D content and temporally consistent from frame-to-frame.>DLSS 5 honors artistic intent in two ways:>Inputting the game’s color and motion vectors for each frame into the model, anchoring the output in the source 3D content. By providing developers with detailed controls such as intensity and color grading. Artists can use these controls to adjust blending, contrast, saturation, and gamma, and determine where and how enhancements are applied to maintain the game’s unique aesthetic. Developers can also mask specific objects or areas to be excluded from enhancement.It would seem super promising but if they are now using 2x 5090's to do it then is the cost going to be extreme on lower end gpus?
it's so over for nvidia
they've taken us for absolute goys
>>108387620they would be right. nvidia cattle is.
>Shills ITT unironically defending DLSS 5 that literally puts a fucking AI scam ad filter over gamesNvidia pc building general. This is the worst thread on the board and should be black listed from having anymore threads created.
>>108387650I have a 5070 but I still think DLSS5 is the ultimate disgusting slop and there's no way they ship it... right?
>>108387661you couldn't run it anyways and should just buy a 5090
>>108387650>>108387661How ass blasted are you? I'm guessing 10/10. Go buy some booty cream, AMD has it's own brand.
Don't buy NVIDIA cards and/or don't use DLSS5 if you don't like it. Pretty simple solution.
>>108387672nobody's buying a 5090 in this economy>>108387678DLSS5 could've been the third generation transformer model that looks even better than DLSS4.5, but alas
>>108387688do you think the current transformer model needs to be better?just accept that its pretty good rn and we are in diminishing returns phase of development for simple upscaling and having an optional +photorealism filter is an amazing option to have
>>108387688I'm thinking of buying a second one to run DLSS 5.
>>108387702>photorealism
>>108387702>do you think the current transformer model needs to be better?yes, until we can just set it to performance and not notice any difference to native, even when pixel peeping or in complex scenes with lots of particles and small detail like grass or leavesthere's always room for improvement and sloppa filters ain't it
So, that pt/rt bullshit has flopped and they’re trying to replace it with full-on aisloppa, huh?
>Puts an AI instagram filter over every character>"Photo realism"I thought this shit was a joke when I first saw it
>>108387737>floppedit is in fact so ubiquitous developers are starting to not even care what their games look like without it
>>108387737basic RT has definitely not flopped because without it you need to either fake (screenspace) or pre-bake reflections, which looks horriblePT is just too hard to run for 90%+ of PC users
>>108387746only in nvidia sponsored titles. basically no one uses nvidia tech if he doesn't get payed for it.
>>108387748go play half life alyx and tell me how that game looks bad because of fake lighting.
>>108387743fuck off lets see what it does to monsters. if it makes them insanely creepy this is going to be the biggest generational mfg win, and with a lil practice I bet its going to make the monsters incredibly creepy and disgusting.
>>108387755>only in nvidia sponsored titles.About that. AMD paid for this, and to save you the embarrassment I won't even bring up Starfield.
he hates it. it's over dlssisters.
>>108387746>>108387748If I looked at the current top 100 most played games on steam, what do you think the ratio of games with rt/pt to games without rt/pt would be?
>>108387793Top played games are all esports slop that runs on toasters and should not be counted. Look at all high profile recent releases like Doom TDA, Oblivion Remastered, RE9, MGS Delta, Silent Hill F, etc. etc. etc. they all heavily rely on Ray Tracing for their lighting engine.
>>108387793and of the ones that support it, how many people are playing with it enabled?
>>108387814>Doom TDA, Oblivion Remastered, RE9, MGS Delta, Silent Hill F,all of them are shit
>>108387787wow realistic lighting on a sewage pipeamazing
how lost in the sauce is Nvidia that they think people want their upscaler to filter the game's art into something completely different LMAO!
>>108387831It's so simple only NVIDIA can do it without pixelating the textures to PS1 levels.
>>108387814Show me some of those bg3 lan tournaments>Doom TDACan’t find it in the top 100, are you sure those are high profile?
It's pretty obvious DLSS 5 isn't about making games look better. Nvidia's goal is to make it so games won't look right without it. As shitty as the AI slop filter faces and lighting is I guarantee we will get nvidia sponsored games coming out two years from now that won't look right without out it turned on because the devs will neglect basic art direction and character design now expecting you to use this shit instead. This is just what happens when you have a monopoly with uncontested dominance of a market, they are shaping the industry to their products and software and making it mandatory to have these for an acceptable experience.
>>108387892almost like manufacturer exclusive features are bad for everyoneenjoy your slop subhumans
>>108387838Todd Howard of Bethesda Games is already on record saying DLSS5 it is in line with what he originally wanted for Starfield, but AMD held him back.
>>108387903he will say anything for nvidia money
>>108387903>I didn't want to actually work on making a game, I'm more of an ideas guy lol
>>108387892how else would visuals progress?
>>108387907>>108387908I guess his affair with AMD is over? It didn't work out so well to be honest.
>>108387912you are so fucking retarded it's unbelievable. goycattle.
>>108387903Starfield could have the best graphics of all time but it wouldn’t matter cos the game is just terrible
>>108387892that's fine, I don't need to play their games.there's already more great games than I could ever play in my lifetime to fill the gap when I'm not feeling competitive.
>>108387942well for one games arent gonna face scan everyoneand the dlss impacts other things besides faces
>>108387921It's over, but it's not like AMD offered him any benefit. The games ran as well as could be expected given the development team behind them. Njudea is going to milk bethesda's technical shortcomings for all they're worth, unfortunately
>>108387912people forget that nvidia basically invented the dgpu and has lead the way on all graphics related tech advancements.
>>108387960doesn't matter. the fornite engine is going to make everything look like plastic anyways. nvidia is then going to tell you to turn on the instagram filter. like i am not asking for much. just use good settings.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZtNU-4yqtI
>Deep Learning Super Slopjej
>>108387977>ai channel trashing aiwe certainly live in a society.
>>108388007i still have to see anything against the points he is making.
IM SELLING MY FUCKING 5070TI AND IM GOING TO BUY A 9070XT IF THEY ACTUALLY GREENLIGHT DLSS5 WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
>>108388043fuck that I'm buying a PS5 and becoming a nigger
im going to buy a 60xx gpu in 2028 and check out dlss 6.5 in a game and turn it off if my fps is too low
>>108388020what point does he make other than developers don't optimize their games anymore?
>>108388312that epics fortnite engine sucks ass and makes everything look like plastic and that developers can't even change basic settings.
they didnt use cp or remedy games to illustrate dlss 5 for some reasonWas it some "its the other kids turn" thing? They did announce some mega geometry thing for witcher 4 couple days ago.
>>108387956>deadlockis that 'reddit the game'?
>>108388423>valve games>moderated safe spaceslol!
A lot of “Boycott Call of Duty” energy in here, most of you guys are still going to buy NVIDIA cards.
>>108388464I have a 4070 already, I'm not upgrading for at least 2 more generations. I'll worry about who is better when it comes time to make a purchase.btw dlss 5 makes everything look like it was generated by gemini and it's bad.
You retards know how much amazing the 3d adult games are gonna look with dlss 5, right even DOA will look amazing
>>108388514Will need to see examples.
>>108388540Just check how grace from Requiem looks without PT and then with PT, now imagine the skyrim mods when you force dlss 5 into it
>>108387042>noooooo you supposed to stare at the ugly strong female characterI think the issue is that people stopped trying and just let the ai do it. It’s a specific method of producing images but it’s different than normal and is basically img2img generation. Which is fine.
>>108388464>guys are still going to buy NVIDIA cards.Those vocal dudes are just salty AMD owners. Their jimmies are rustled. Why would any NVIDIA owner give a shit about additional options you can turn off if you choose. More is better.
>>108388464i think if its comes out and in turns out the model can run on at least a 4070 then people will stop being mad, personally i think it has because it actually fixed lumen and unreal engine 5 games that do not have PT like starfield or oblivion remaster
>>108388601> Their jimmies are rustled.no one has a reason to be mad thoamd owners might be perpetually depressed about them spending 700€+ on amd hardware but as you said its more free stuff = better affair for everyone elseits a depressing time to be alive and on the internet with this level of discourse
>>108388571Okay so post a webm then
>>108388633anon dlss 5 does not come until the fall
I have two sticks of 8gb 3600mhzand two sticks of 16gb 3200mhzcan I put all 4 sticks for greater capacity and have the 3600mhz ram just run at the slower freq?
>>108387903As someone with unironically a 50 series GPU that has played all the games showcased i can tell you, you retards dont ever begin to understand how bad Lumen and UE5 games look without PT, even full RT its terrible i would take DLSS 5.0 every day of the week and i guarantee you all the retards crying just hate AI and never played this games on recent gen hardware
nevr 4get
>>108388707>oh no that ruined the artistic intent>I shall unsub from df now that they said rt is good actually
I hate how Nvidia has moved onto PT and this gay AI filter shit and now RT looks like ass on purpose
>>108388627>>108388601Not necessarily a good thing if it means no new hardware for another year. Used to be by this time of the year we would be arguing about incremental improvements, now there's nothing.
When it comes to laptops does Intel still suck and overheat like hell?
>>108388715yeah people loved this when it was shown off. a few short years later and everyone is mindbroken by ai
>>108388733Install a older driver but yeah looks like bad VRAM/Core.
>>108388724only thing that means no new hardware is jews ruining the memory market
>>108388724Well at least they are developing the software side. Better than sitting and getting nothing. Free upgrades are a pretty sweet deal.
>>108388733>he updooted the drivers
>>108388737He post this every thread. Just ignore him. He's a butthurt AMD owner. Example of his other "work"
>>108388707what happened to this? is this that 'nvidia driver side scanning everything to save 3d assets' kind of thing?
do not engage with the amd schizo
>>108388744Ah i see.
My 5060 just crashed again on RE9 so done with this shit will DLSS 5 fix this?
>>108388728their latest chip is supposed to be really good. it only loses to AMD when they're plugged in.
>>108388733>>108388737>>108388743>>108388749
>>108388729And rtx still runs like shit on anything that isn't an ada or blackwell 90 series.
>>108388746they're using a custom fork of dxvk called dxvk remix. it allows you to hijack the dx9 renderer and do all sorts of stuff within vulkan.
>bought a 5070 ti at MSRP before prices went to shit>works great
>>108388757>My 5060 just crashed again will DLSS 5 fix this? It will only make it worse.
>>108388768is it useful? can you do/learn valuable stuff with it? back then it seemed like the greatest thing ever, then it disappeared
so done with these fucking melting issues on my 5090. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the AMDrones when my cable melted and whole pc caught on fire, I have to build a whole new pc. im suing nvidia and building an all amd pc with the settlement money fuck it idc anymore
>>108388789dxvk is used everywhere on windows and linux. this is just another version of it. its all open source.https://github.com/NVIDIAGameWorks/dxvk-remix
jensen said they're predicting 1 trillion dollars worth of revenue60% of that is 5 companies buying AI hardwareits bizarrewhere the fuck does all the money come from. Imagine being a bank and financing that, how?what the fuck do they do with text predictors to produce value
I hope I can buy a 6090 and double it up with my current 5090 for DLSS5. It would be so sweet.
>>108388810There is a reason people call it a bubble.
>>108388791
>DLSS5 gets announced.>Objectively looks better.>Probably not worth the performance overhead.>Performative outrage because "Muh AI".
>>108388789It was used in the recent dark messiah rtx mod. theres also another patch that restores lost content and fixes a bunch of issues with the game.
>>108388810>>108388818>There is a reason people call it a bubble.Nvidia uses the same accounting firm that Cisco systems used in the 90s.
>>108388826It's about time AI did something for me.
>>108388826they didnt show a single anime game because it does shit like this
>>108388826its actually really good they showed it at this stage because you know if it relies on some accelerator inside a gpu then next gen parts will ease through it as the designers can balance the relative die area to match the features needs
>>108388843To be fair, you don't need DLSS to get 60 in tranime shit.
>>108388843That's clearly FSR4.
Is it a hot take that mATX is enough for 99% of users? Gamers especialy>only use 1 PCIE slot for their gaymen cardit shouldn't be hard to find good cases.
>>108388849they're relying on it for AA>>108388850no
>>108388869Yes or does the game not even support FSR?
>Nvidia slop feature working incorrectly >MUH RADEON MUH AMDThe cry of the nvidiot. Why do they think so much about gpus they don't even own? Insecurity with their scam gpus that crash constantly due to chat gpt drivers?
>>108388888Digits of maximum butthurt. I love it.
>>108388826is gonna improve performance if you use it without PT, they had two 5090 run it because they probably need to a quant and the model was bigger (needed 32 vram to run) the fall release will probably run fine on 16gb VRAM cards without too much frametime as long as the upscaling is agressive enough, you can see this with Model L which is the largest nvidia model, when you upscale from 1440p performance the frametime cost is half than doing it at dlss quality and suddenly the runtime difference between DLSS 4 and 4.5 got reduced to a few %. For this Model i have my doubts if it can fit on a 12vram buffer but it will probably mean that you'll be able to run RT + DLSS 5.0 and get significantly closer to PT + DLSS 4.5 maybe even better quality, but PT + DLSS 5 will probably be locked down to 90 class cards purely on the vram alone, altough thats the cool thing about AI model and shit, it scales really well performance wise as long as you agressively upscale if you have enough vram
>>108388810what do you mean the business model is already in place, you only get to talk to a lesser chat bot 5 times a day, and you can subscribe to talk to the better chat bot more, and have it generate images and videos for you.plus businesses and governments are having AI scrape data together for them, and are simplifying mundane tasks.
>>108388843Anon several anime games supported it and are releasing with it day one like, NTE: Neverness to Everness and Sea of Remnants
>>108388818I thought OpenAI was going to go out of business next year and cause a crash, but they just got a government bailout in the contract to replace Anthropic, so I don't think it's going to burst. this isn't like the dotcom bubble where hundreds of companies existed that had no product. there are only a handful of players in this AI race. the only thing that can stop this train is if companies will be able to make their own processors so they don't have to rely on Nvidia anymore, but people have tried and left Nvidia for a bit only to return to the big green.
>>108388826I don't like that it turns everything into a grok/gemini image gen filter.
>>108388843this shit happens in where winds meet and it triggers the shit out of me. this is supposed to be limited to framegen, not upscaling.
>>108388857that's not a hot take.
>>108388810>what the fuck do they do with text predictors to produce valuechatgpt alone has over a billion monthly users and you couldn't pry claude out of any of the devs i know irl's cold dead hands. normies are using these services by the gorillion but you'd never think that by the people complaining for brownie points online. Also inference is already profitable but it's the constant need to train new models to keep up in the race that's killing these company's balance sheets
>>108388985I think this is all moneyprinter go brr and all these trillions is just usa using fake money to inflate the numbers because world reserve currency
>>108388985they are til they get played for a fool by aislop which they willalso note this (topkek)https://slashdot.org/story/26/03/15/0436200/new-study-raises-concerns-about-ai-chatbots-fueling-delusional-thinkingcan notice tards who use it if you speak with them
>>108388985They just hand off the same money in a circle to fool investors. They dont actually make much.
Tried my first computer over the weekend. Thought I got everything hooked up correctly but theres a white light on my motherboard that wont turn off.I looked up what that means and it has to do with it not recognizing my Graphics Card. The graphics card has a red light on but none of the fans turn. What would be the reasons for this?
>>108389002>>108389010>>108389016peak reddit opinion, le AI bad! wahh! go watch another GN video so you can continue to not grasp economics.>>108389010people have been retarded since the beginning of time, who cares.
>>108389038idk bro did you plug everything in?
>>108389038Check your power cables.
>>108388341Because it probably needs more work due to the complexity of 2077 environments and also probably because AMD would collapse in on itself so hard it'd generate a micro black hole. Need time to prepare for that. The graphics style of 2077 would probably be one of the best and most compatible next to Starfield to get that real time faceapp treatment, I'm sure CDPR is hard at work making sure their debut demo of DLSS5 looks so transformative it spurs another large sales wave.
>>108389058>>108389059Thats what i checked first. I assumed i had it right since theres a light on the GPU. Am about to double check the psu
>>108389081Your GPU cable is not connected properly, you can still see the yellow part of the connector, you shouldnt be able to see anything.
>>108389081lmao
>>108389064man, I really wana play cp with photorealism filtershame I need a new hardware to do it since 2x 5090s isnt very reassuring for older gpus
>>108389081remember that people like this exist, when people blame this >>108388791 on nvidia.
>>108388746>what happened to this?Yet another DOA technology, among many others such as hairworks, physx, RT, PT, neural texture compression and etc
>>108389115Still nvidia fault for creating such shitty connector, all they had to do is to make it bigger and thicker, EPS sized with 14 pins, isnt that hard.
>>1083891241 in 1000 people have issues connecting it, and it's the connectors fault? lol!
>>108389086Thanks for the help, it booted perfect and i can finally start the setup
>>108389149Since before it used to be 1 in 10000000? yes.
its first time builder making a mistake that prevents the computer from turning on properly, and its fixed by replugging things. its fineno need to start crying about connectors
>>108389154did we have 500W GPUs before the 4090? did their cables ever melt?
>>108389176My overclocked 3090 pulled 450w on occasion.
>>108389176Red devil had a couple 600-750w cards.
>>108389189and how many cables was it running through?
>>108389176Yes and yes
I thought there was a NAS general but I can't seem to find it so guess I'll ask here. I just put together my first DAS and I'm in the process of moving stuff over to it. I'm getting about 34MB/s, is that a decent speed moving from one plate hard drive to another? I've never transferred huge file before so I wasn't sure what to expect. At this rate it's going to take me days to move the 6tb I have. Is it pretty normal for it to take that long?
>>108389176GTX Titan, 750w if you unlocked BIOS, no melting.They used 2x8pin and the 450w models used 6+8.
I'm seeing occasional comments over in AMD strongholds like HUB and TPU comments sections that echo every single time in the past Nvidia released some new software feature;>This technology seems so niche and hard to work with, I predict that only a few companies will pick it up>This will be a new fad but it will pass with time
>>108389152Happy for you, building your own computer is scary. I sweated bullets when I did it last year, good luck with the rest of it.
>>108389176GTX 590's were 400w out the box with 2x8pin, BUT those cards cooked themselves before the cable melted.
>>108389212It's been that way forever, retards hated dlss, hated RT, hated pathtracing, now they moved from framgen to this, it just looks huge because they got luddites and the anti ai artist redditors to shit on it. Thankfully Jensen doesnt give a shit and devs love it
>6-pin: 75W>8-pin: 150W>12vhpwr: 600W
>>108388843So that's why Granblue Ragnarok doesn't have DLSS
>devs love itNot a good sign considering the absolute dogshit coming out from these same devs
>>108389242UE5 devs love it*its gonna be a drag and drop plugin for themproprietary engines gonna have heart attack for it
>>108389228>6pin, 8pin, EPS: 14~16AWG for 150w in mind>12VHPWR: 16~18AWG for 600w in mind + 24~28AWG sense wiresAnd then there is the contact area and resistance problem, it could be a nice cable if it had current sensing for every pin but no card has it, or atleast longer pins.All they have to do is size it up and all problems would be fixed but nope that would get rid of planned obsolecense.
>>108386956>>GPU>Budget: Arc B580,>Midrange: 5060ti 16GB, 5070>4k : 5070ti>Native/High-end: 5090>AVOID AMD: Due to current RDNA support ending, 90XX cards are considered EoL and cannot be recommended.can you fuckers be serious for a minutewhy shouldn't i get a 9060xt instead of a 5060ti? the latter is $200 more...for what?
honestly bizarre when you think of a model that can transform games visuals much and gamers arent excited to experience it for themselvesWhy do you turn on your pc if you dont want dlss 5. Go outside, read a book. >oh but grace looks offthen do something else in a video game than staring at a face. Shoot zombies. Look at trees. Kill women. The filter impacts every pixel.
>>108389257get the 9060xt its more linux friendly
>>108389257The op is horrible advice no matter what it says from bake to bake.
>>108389257Its console war faggotry but for gpus
>>108389257you shouldn't.you should also buy 8GB for budget.
>>1083892575060ti only makes sense if its at max $50 more than the XT, at $200 more the 9060xt is a no brainer
>>108389266no, it doesn't impress me as a gamer that you can run 2 5090's in SLI to run a local AI that applies a Gemini image filter to a video game in real time.it impresses me as an investor though.
regret not spending $800 on a 3090 for satisfying my ai cooming cravings desuwould have been a perfect destress tool
>>108389219I think i was just a little too delicate when building. I see the price tags so I handle the parts (especially the GPU) as soft as I can, and when im plugging everything in Im listening for the quietest clicks to tell me when I've connected it. And sometimes what I think is a quiet click isnt a click at all but some other subtle flexing in some other part of the case or somewhere else in the room. So I end up a connector only halfway in and scratching my head about why the computer wont work.
>>108389212>>108389225>hated dlssAbsolute dogwater>hated RTRuns like shit on anything that isn't a 4090 or 5090>hated pathtracingSame as rt but even worse.Guess what dlss5 is going to do?>run like water a dog shit in on every card.Enjoy playing at 60fps, 1440p, 6x frame gen, dlss ultra performance on your 5090.
>>108389320Im kinda confused how you got ddr5 installed but failed at the gpu cable that has yellow paint guide
>>108389320I feel you, I've never spent half as much money on anything in my life as this computer. I have friends who have always had more money and just take this shit for granted. They don't understand why I treat it with kid gloves. I sweated over the whole process and plugging things in was hell. I learned that not all power supplies come with the same size plugs. They all have a fractional variance and mine were super snug to the point where I thought I was going to fracture a bone in my fingers I had to use so much force to get them in. But it all worked out in the end, hopefully you don't run into any other problems. I would suggest you avoid any OC tinkering before you are really sure you know what you are doing or even need. Just the other day I saw a youtube video talking about the latest CPU's burning out again because of one setting or another. I had planned on doing all the over clocking and stuff but then I realized I don't really even need it and I want this thing to last me until I die so I'm just going to leave everything stock.
>>108389322>Enjoy playing at 60fps, 1440p, 6x frame gen, dlss ultra performance on your 5090. This is the worst part lol a $5000 gpu can’t hit 60fps without upscaling on these path traced titles
framegen is a bigger thing for me than DLSS.DLSS heavily degrades the picture even at quality mode
I bought 6 fans for intake and 4 for exhaust. This is good right?
>>108389081this must be a troll>red light >yellow stuff obviously indicating its not slotted fully
>>108389365over 9000 hours on steam
>>108388746>what happened to this?apparently there are a few games that have gotten rtx remix mods but they've flown under my radar, found a list here https://www.moddb.com/rtx digitalfoundry did a video on the black mesa remix mod and it looks very good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waoNTFtPRhw and right, from what i gather the rtx remix process is that it automagically extracts game assets to the point you can remodel them (if desired), upscale the textures, set materials properly so that rtx can do its thing with them, and it lets you mess with light sources because they won't be properly set up for actually illuminating the scenes. then it replaces the renderer to actually do all the path tracing and dlss stuff on games that were never designed for it. very impressive technology but it still sounds like a hell of a lot of work for the modder
So done with this shit my 5070 just crashed with am out of vram error on Indiana Jones when I tried turning up the RT at 1440p . WHY THE FUCK DID I LET SHILLS IN THIS THREAD CONVINCE ME 12GB OF VRAM WAS FINE AND NOT TO BUY A 9070 XT INSTEAD!? I WANT TO DIE!!!
>>108389257DLSS 5.0 alone should be enough
>>108389488
>>108389322DLSS 1.0 was so bad amdrones made people buy RDNA2 because a sharpened filter (FSR) was the future, it was only around DLSS 3.0 and ampere that people turned positive around it
>>108389333It is heavily related to the culture against reading. Nobody wants to read the manual before using a thing, nobody sees the manual probably having a page that says PUSH IT IN UNTIL YOU SEE NO YERROW, BOY in big bold letters.
>>108389299You would have to be retarded to buy a RDNA 4 GPU after they announced they are not getting DXR 2.0 and FSR Diamond is RDNA5 exclusive
>>108389496Where did they announce it?
FSR 4.1 > DLSS 4.5FSR ML FG > DLSS FGFSR Ray Regeneration > DLSS Ray ReconstructionFSR Radiance Caching > RTX Neural Radiance CacheCrimson Desert > RE9 RequiemNvidiot cope below
>>108389503GDC
>>108389503they didnt, it was a tweet by a leaker who implied it
>>108389505Where did AMD say “this will be exclusive to RDNA5”?
>>108389506Anon, they do not have dedicated hardware RT cores, they dont support OMM or SER, they are so bad that Ray regeneration cant properly function as a upscaling denoiser because its limited to only a few signals, its not getting FSR DImaond or any new tech and you need to stop coping
>>108389503He's a jeet that's been spamming here for two weeks based of a one word reply Twitter post "leak" that an AMD employee debunked themselves
>>108389492Wooooooowww its almost as if the exact same story is playing out once again.Wooooowww says AMD +3 years how could we have predicted everyone would make their games with DLSS 5 facial reconstruction in mind?Woooooowww please buy our new Lapis Lazuli cards, Diamond has been moved to the maintenance branch.
>>108389510Thats fine but where did AMD say it will be exclusive to RDNA5 as you claimed here>>108389496
>>108389508Here minute 7 56 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lNW6U1KRjc
>>108389517wow turned out nicotroon was coping who could have guessed it
pcbg is the only general where you can literally just spam the same troll posts over and over every thread and it never gets deleted. Do the mods just not give a fuck? This nvidijeet has been spamming the same shit about rdna4 being end of life and the same images for two weeks straight wtf
>>108389523anon thats literally an interview with AMD VP saying that they will not port features backwards i think is time accept AMD lost.
>>108389517That's not confirming anything and is out of context from a video where they are talking about if fsr4 will come to rx 7000 and older. This is the lying that nvidijeet do in every thread
>>108389517Disingenuous nigger ask me how i know you are a chink
>>108389530Time to admit it anon, RDNA4 is abandonware https://devblogs.microsoft.com/directx/shader-model-6-9-retail-and-more/
>>108389535>my IP infowhat are you gonna do with an IPV4 dynamic Ip which is used on a cluster with over DHCP pool of thousand address because i live in a city
>Just installed my new rtx 5070 asus dual oc>This consistently happens 3 minutes after I install the GeForce drivers>PC crashes and restarts if I try and run furmark or anything else that puts load on the gpuIs it over? Is there anything to do but RMA? fuck i wish i just bought a 9070 xt a few months ago when they were msrp instead of overpaying for this junk
>>108389533I literally have been telling you this was gonna happen since RDNA 4 launched and the architecture was revealed to not have dedicated RT cores or wavematrix mma arrays cores
>>108389539Nvidia doesn't even support DX13. AMD does.
>mfw my 3K 5090 just dxgi hung and black screened for the third time this week and there is this strange burning smell coming from my computer every now and again when the card is under load
>>108389560RDNA5 does, not RDNA 4
This has been the worst thread yet congrats guys. All brand tards need to be shot and killed my fucking goodness. Why don't the jannies just filter anymore of these threads from being created if they don't wanna moderate them?
>>108389566Windows 12 / 26H2 / Shader Model 7 is literally around the corner and Nvidia has no support for these while Microsoft 100% confirmed AMD will.
>>108389576Anon you still dont understand, i dont care about brand wars, when AMD releases an actual good GPU and garbage (which i hope RDNA 5 does) i will praise it and enjoy nvidia cards at cheaper price, i have been consistent telling people that RDNA4 was RDNA1 all over again because all these proposals have been been developed openly here and they been very open about RDNA4 hardware not being supported. I saw this happening from a year ago https://github.com/orgs/microsoft/projects/884 .
>>108386956>AVOID AMD: Due to current RDNA support ending, 90XX cards are considered EoL and cannot be recommended.I leave on holiday after begging an anon to bake quality non-pozzed threads (anon does) and I come back to the above. Is this real or is it mustard gas?
>>108389588I don't give a shit about your crap.Nvidia has no support for the future of OS. Both Windows and Linux. It's poor compared to AMD today.
>>108389596Same with Intel. Lagging behind AMD.
>>108389596Anon you are just screaming at the wall and coping because RDNA4 is ABANDONWARE , thats not my problem its yours to deal, i'll continue to tell people they should not buy iit
>>108389602RTX cards continue to melt everyday. Cope
>>108389589the cpu counter troll shilling brings a tear of joy to my eye
>>108389607As i said i dont care about that because its never been my problem, my point is that RDNA4 is garbage and you should not buy it, at any cost dont mistake that for shilling better cards
Nvidiots want everyone to take them seriously and their cards can't even run fortnite a cartoon kids game without stuttering nonstop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be0wcI2ym30https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1773652449>TCL CSOT's first OLED monitor panel to enter production will reportedly be its 27-inch 4K 120Hz RGB-stripe OLED panel. According to a supply chain analyst report from Video Hall (视讯堂), the panel has just passed the internal verification required for mass production. Chinese media report that the panel could enter mass production in July 2026. If the report proves accurate, TCL CSOT will begin printing OLED panels well ahead of the planned 2027 completion of its new 8.6G OLED plant. BOE and Samsung Display are also accelerating timelines to start production at their upcoming 8.6G OLED plants. It is worth noting, however, that the July timeline refers to the panel itself. It will be up to TCL Electronics or other partners to integrate the panel into a monitor and bring it to market, which could take longer.27" 4K120hz RGB Printed OLED Starting Production in July. IT'S FINALLY FUCKING TIME.
>>108389735we already have 4k 240hz oleds
>>10838973527 inches is too small and 240hz should be the minimum.
>>108389750Not true RGB OLED subpixel arrangement.Even the upcoming Striped 4K240Hz OLED from LG won't have the same purity as these inkjet printed panels which are top emission like QD-OLED (no dirty screen effect in low gray signals or or banding)Note the equally-sized R, G, & B Subpixel stripe. It will have much higher pixel fill rate and aperture ratio than anything Samsung & LG currently have scheduled for release this year.>>108389752>27 inches is too small and 240hz should be the minimum.It's first-gen tech, and 27" is not too small for retina-level resolution. This panel will have text clarity better than any other panel, LCD or competing OLED, at launch.
>>108389735wait isn't there already rgd stripe oled?
>>108389783>retina>low fps is fine actuallyoh no
>>108389783>retina-level resolutionkek
>>108388464This. It's been a full year+ of people being "mad" about Nvidia, yet next year every single person in this thread will be lining up to buy a 6000 series gpu. And this is with Jensen outright saying that gaming customers aren't necessary anymore and preferring to throw in with the military industrial complex.
https://x.com/ryanshrout/status/2033686038829535318this guy has a good article of the positives of dlss5 >But the knee-jerk "it's just a face filter" take doesn't hold up once you've actually seen the full scope of what DLSS 5 is doing across an entire scene, across multiple games, in real time. Go look at a coffee maker. Go look at stone textures. Go look at the way light passes through a leaf. That's where the real story is.
>>108389589It's real. Refer to >>108389505
>>108389785>wait isn't there already rgd stripe oled?https://www.displayninja.com/best-oled-monitor/Samsung's V-Stripe RGB will only be in a low-pixel density Ultrawide this year.LG will have a 4K RGB Stripe OLED but it's just losing the W in current Tandem OLED panels and may not solve the banding/panel uniformity issues that are plauging current-gen panels from them:https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/exploring-the-grey-banding-issue-affecting-some-tandem-woled-panelshttps://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/does-oled-have-a-black-crush-problem-understanding-and-testing-oled-shadow-detailThere were some older real RGB OLEDs produced by JOLED that were limited to only 60Hz aimed at professionals like with the 27BP95E-B and were impossibly expensive so development on them never went very far ($3000~4000).
>>108389735>>108389783>>108389819Also the panel will be VESA-certified for HDR TB500 comparable to the latest QD-OLED & Tandem WOLED panel generations in brigthness.https://www.eet-china.com/mp/a480380.html
>>108389808Looks great but I'll believe it when I see it in real games
>>108389054>who caresthey will since these things are not for them and they trust whatever msm sells them >it does this 100%>it does that 50% but it is getting therein any case when retard gets fed info by llm and what not, retard is convinced it has acquired knowledge and convinces itself that is how it is thusly starts parroting whatever it sounds cool/reasonable/smart
>>108389735>burn-in>vrr flicker>120hzit is still not time chang.
>>108389808>>108389302
What case is this???
>>108389854there are people who unironically believe that a 5070 is a 4090. some people were meant to spend their life picking potatoes out of the ground, but we have given them electricity.
>>108389808It literally ran on two 5090sMaybe a single 6090 or 7090 will be able to use it
>>108389870>>108389870>>108389870
>>108389874way too early. and obvious brand shilling.
>>108389882>AVOID AMD: Due to current RDNA support ending, 90XX cards are considered EoL and cannot be recommended.>It's okay when we do it but you can't shitpost about our cards too chudCry more
>>108389891it's not ok when either of you do it. don't forget to dilate.
>>108389872It doesnt inspire trust that lower end gpus can do it but no one knows what the requirement is post-optimization.One inspiring aspect the article mentioned too is being able to use a 2nd gpu to handle part of the workload. If that can be done seamlessly it should be an option for people.
>>108389868That looks like the Cooler Master Silencio S400.
>>108389346>5090>100% usage>40fps>under 16gb vram allocated>somehow expected to run "dlss5"
>>108389907>inspiringI wouldn't call the need for Two 4,000 dollar gpus "inspiring".Just remember Ray tracing was sold to people who bought the 2060.
>>108389365I think frame gen is fine and smart even if you can cap it, like lossless scaling does, like, you get 90 fps in a game and you want 120 fps, so you use frame gen to generate those extra 25% frames, I think that's pretty cool and the latency penalty will be minimal, your rendered frames can vary 80~100 and you'll still be seeing 120, that's awesomebut the "2x 3x 4x" frame gen is such bullshit, the lag and artifacts it intruduces are massive, shitty technology
>>108387081Fucking moron how many times asrock MOBOS burnt AM5 cpus?
>>108387073>Multi-core doesn't matter!>Productivity doesn't matter!>Price/performance doesn't matter!>Performance per watt doesn't matter!>Power usage doesn't matter!>Temperatures don't matter!>Soldered dies don't matter!>Stutters don't matter!>Streaming doesn't matter!>Data centers don't matter!>Locked CPUs don't matter!>OEMs don't matter!>Hyperscalers don't matter!>Upgradeability doesn't matter!>Anti-competitive business practices don't matter!>Locked platform features don't matter!>Synthetic loads don't matter!>PCI-e lanes don't matter!>Burnt pins don't matter!>Heat doesn't matter!>1771w cooler doesn't matter!>Server space doesn't matter!>ECC support doesn't matter!>Free RAID doesn't matter!>NVMe RAID doesn't matter!>StoreMI doesn't matter!>IPC doesn't matter!>7nm doesn't matter!>StoreMI doesn't matter!>HEDT doesn't matter!>Stock coolers don't matter!>Security doesn't matter!>Games don't always matter!>Enterprise doesn't matter!>Hyperthreading doesn't matter!>VMware doesn't matter!>MySQL doesn't matter!>Unix doesn't matter!>Linux doesn't matter!>Wafer yields don't matter!>Benchmarks after full patches don't matter!>Asian markets don't matter!>Own fabrics doesn't matter!>Chipset lithography doesn't matter!>Cray doesn't matter!>Cisco doesn't matter!>HPE doesn't matter!>AZURE doesn't matter!>5nm doesn't matter!>TDP doesn't matter!>10nm doesn't always matter!>Cache doesn't matter!>Integrated graphics doesn't matter!>Processors don't matter!>Custom Foundry Business doesn't matter!>Stock voltage doesn't matter!>Framerate doesn't matter!>Amazon sales don't matter!>Prime95 AVX doesn't matter!>Large corporations don't matter!>Your DATA doesn't matter!>Context switch duration doesn't matter!>202x market outlooks don't matter!>VRM doesn't matter!>Single core performance doesn't always matter!>Desktops don't matter>laptops don't matter!>*NEW* current competition don't matter!
>>108388464I got a brand new 5060 that I got for 249 euros during black Friday. I don't play unreal engine slop, I'm good for 6-7 years
>>108391533glad to see this meme I started in 2019 still matters
I am going to the airport on this sunny day to pick up the Zotac 5070 Solid that I snatched at Microcenter for 550 dollars before tax after weeks of waiting.I hope this will make up for me passing on a 3090 for 670 dollars in December because I wanted to avoid the temptation of hires 1girl prompting addiction (and stupidly high idle wattage in a quiet case).I am upgrading from a 3060 Ti on an X470 system.
>>108391484Sounds like a problem with that specific brand of motherboard and not the cpu.
>>108391742I grabbed the post and added it to my smug replies txt back then
