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Just shut the fuck up.
>repost from previous thread with timestamphttps://youtu.be/JxQqRvH3s_g?t=873You all made Jay, a multimillionaire, cry. You should all apologize for how rough he has it. It's not easy buying $6000 lightning and $4000 Matrix graphics card and stacking free RAM.
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>>108394613does tigole ever get tired of ruining games?
>>108394577Can’t wait for another thread of endless Indian anti NVidia shilling because an insanely cool and next generation rendering technology had some quirks in its debut prototype reveal
I dab on "developers" (unreal engine 5 platonic cave-dwellers) trying to integrate the newest plugin for slopframes. Not because I think they're implementing them poorly (they are, but I didn't care), but because they use plugins as a crutch for their own inability to make a game run reasonably well on hardware which would have been unfathomable to the general public just a decade ago
>108394734>NO STOP IT!!!>LEAVE THE TRILLION DOLLAR CORPORATION ALONE!!!Worthless brand nigger subhuman neck yourself. Jensen doesn't care about you and would grind you up into paste to power a data center retard.
>>108394750you don't get payed to make good games these days. you get payed for ticking boxes these days.
>>108394762Hopefully they didn't get paid at all, just laid off. We already know they're not any better than some jeet on mechanical turk
>>108394577>destroying game art direction with AI slop etc.>>108394754>'Radeon wouldn't develop this tech! Surely!'
>>108394781usually the people who push for all this crap get a fat bonus while the people who are okay with it get laid off.
Why do people say AMD cards lose support after a few years when the god damn 7850 still receives the latest amdgpu drivers? Is this just a Windowsfag problem?
>>108394656It's a bit 'woe is me'. But, he is largely right. There's just less money in YouTube these days. After Covid, media consumption went down, entertainment spending went down and computers especially took a hit. And to an extent, you kinda just have to ride that. You can't expect infinite growth, at a point you just have to be okay with being comfortable. It's still not an expensive hobby. But, it's definitely more expensive than it used to be, and less interesting that it used to be.Honestly, with Jay I just wish he'd focus on evergreen content. Do builds that are cool and different. He recently got a big fancy 3D printer, do a 3D printed PC or something. Actually take the time to learn how to do it properly, and it'd be a really interesting niche to go down. I hopehe doesn't go full LTT sellout mode where he turns the channel into some MrBeast shit.
>>108394656Lol, Jay has absolutely no credibility.
Concise CPU and GPU guide for newfags>Intel + Nvidia = Faggot Normie Consoomer or Indian>Ryzen + Nvidia = Reddit>Intel + Arc = Brain Damage>Ryzen + Arc = Schizo>Intel + Radeon = Schizo>Ryzen + Radeon = Real PC Enthusiast #Pewdiepie approved
How are they going to control the damage? Nvidia can just shrug this off easily as the most powerful corporation on earth, but they aren’t so resilient.
>>108394878>If you don't like it, don't use it.It's that simple.I know pajeets can't comprehend the idea of just not doing something a more wealthy person tells them to do. But, the rest of us can just not.
So anyone buy a good psu lately?
>>108394889Can you use FSR4 on those?
>>108394890bought a good budget psu for a friendhttps://old.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1qjimdb/seasonic_g12gc_750w_2024_a_quality_psu_that_is/
>>108394878Their video on DLSS5 is embarrassing, they just shilled it as though it doesn't look like the stock standard AI slop you see on Facebook.
>Nvidia announces new feature>Radeon Fanboys throw tantrum for months>AMD finally announces alternative (it's ass)>Uhm akshually our version is just as good and it's going to just keep getting even better XD>Cycle repeats
>>108394878they are not going to change anything and the jeets will still love it
FSR 4.1 > DLSS 4.5FSR ML FG > DLSS FGFSR Ray Regeneration > DLSS Ray ReconstructionFSR Radiance Caching > RTX Neural Radiance CacheCrimson Desert > RE9 RequiemNvidiot cope below
>>108394903FSR4 is RDNA3+ onlyRDNA2 is too slowRDNA1 and below lacks the instructions completely
>>108394925All of those features are slop, I bought Radeon for the raster performance
>>108394932Radiant Display Engine > Blackwell Display Engine
>>108394878>>108394914It's their most viewed video in years and only a day old. I'd say they are doing fine. I'm also excited for DLSS 5. Why would I not be? It wont cost me a dime.
>>108394945now you are just making stuff up
>>108394932>I bought Radeon for the raster performanceNVIDIA is king of raster. AMD barely has a mid range GPU.
>>108394953AMD has better colors than Nvidia and DSC doesn't bug outhttps://www.overclockers.co.uk/blog/amd-radeon-uncovered-amd-radiance-display-engine/
>>108394962>AMD has better colors than NvidiaThis is true
>>108394931Oh, lol.
>>108394734its actually just nicotroon and one other retard sperging over the 9070 XT being EOL
>>108394849>intel+radeonim unironically considering a 245k+9060xt build
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>>108394816>>108394974Seriously what is this EOL thing about?
>>108394968AMD GPUs offer more vibrant, saturated, and warmer colors out-of-the-box compared to the often flatter or cooler, "muted" default look of Nvidia cards. Nvidia may offer better image stability but the cost is always color degradation.
>>108394991It's debunked by an AMD employee ignore the jeet spam
>>108394979265k is dropping in price.
>>108394979wait for the 250k in just a few weeks. launching at $200 msrp, same as the 245k's current street price with 4 extra cores and some architectural improvements thrown in.
>>108394979if you want bang for your buck components just buy AM4 and ddr4 instead of intel
>>108395012>4 extra e-coresfify
>>108394878There is no damage, we've been here before.Give it 2~3 GPU generations and neural rendering will be more mainstream like upscaling & RT.If you guys got a problem with neural rendered 3D graphics, stop buying new video cards because you're funding this tech's development.Every major GPU designer will be commercializing neural rendering features.This will all blow over like DLSS1 and the first generation frame generation.https://www.pcworld.com/article/2569453/qa-amd-execs-explain-ces-gpu-snub-future-strategy-and-more.html
>>108395015am4 cpus are literally more expensive than am5 ones right now barring the 5500 and ddr4 isnt even that cheap
It's over, I fucked up and stripped the screws on both sides. They would not budge and my screwdriver was too sharp.
>>108395008tempting desu really good multicore
>>108394991some guy on twitter said fsr diamond isnt coming to rdna4 and then news sites started spamming it everywhere
>>108395026This. Alex, Rich and John always get the last laugh. Literally can’t stop winning and always turn out right. Stay crying chudjeets
I'd argue NVIDIA announced DLSS5 early to get the negative outrage out of the way before they release new cards in the future, whether that's in 2027, 2028, or some other year.
>>108395040the same "reputable" leaker also said the ps6 will have 32gb vram and the next xbox will have a 5080 equivalent gpu lol
>>108394991You'll need both OMM and SER to get DXR 2.0 to work otherwise you get parial support and AMD does not have the hardware to support it https://devblogs.microsoft.com/directx/shader-model-6-9-retail-and-more/
>>108395039I think it will hit $250 or less when the 270k comes out. I have a brand new intel board lying around so I'm monitoring.
>>108395059>next xbox will have a 5080 equivalent gpuMaybe a 3060 on a good day.
Why can't AMD just get it right for once? What is there problem? Are they going to abandon pc gaymers???Nvidia-chuds are about to get genuine photorealism in every game but we don't even get an actual DLSS and Framegen competitor? My clitty is about to explode in a red fury....
>>108395059Redditors hate him but MLID is the only trust worthy leaker. He had full renders of zen 6 Venice last year and it looked exactly like what Lisa showed at CES 2 months ago
>>108395065nice, im looking for a decent ram kit for it do you know what the sweet spot is for arrow lake ive read conflicting opinions saying 6400 or 8000
>>108395084it's not mlid, it's kepler
>>108395077>genuine photorealismJeets actually think white woman look like this in real life
>>108395087Intel likes faster, but faster is no longer worth the premium.
>>108395084>MLIDEvery time I’ve ever heard a video from this guy it’s “I predicted this on the moores law is dead podcast, the moores law is dead podcast is so smart, we know everything, the moores law is dead podcast is always right” and then he gets like maybe 5% of every prediction accurate and almost all of his leak sources are fake
GeForce xisters how do I respond without sounding mad when Nico-Poster tells me that we're still not capable of playing the only game worth getting a new pc for, Cyberpunk with RT Overdrive?It's playable on the current gen midrange Radeon cards (9070 and 9070 XT) because of FSR4 (now natively supported), but we don't have that nor an upscaler stable enough to brute force a higher resolution.How do I cope??? When I booted up DLSS 4.5 transformer for the first time on my 5070 and saw the grass shadows flickering like this I had a full on dysphoric breakdown and almost overdosed on my HRT pills and had to get my stomach pumped at the ER.
>>108395084he defo has real sources
>>108395114>that grass flickerthat will be $3000
>>108395077AMD's been reducing client & gaming GPU shipments at a faster rate than NVIDIA last quarter.They literally don't care much about building up the Radeon gaming dGPU market share.https://www.jonpeddie.com/news/q425-pc-graphics-aib-shipments-decreased-4-4-from-last-quarter-to-11-million-units-with-a-cagr-to-2029-of-5-9/Radeon attracts too many low-margin customers, AMD will be fine if they lose frugal people & poorfags' business.
idk man radeon just feels faster. people say mhz dont matter anymore but 3.3ghz effective clock is still 3.3ghz and its faster than 2.7-2.8ghz nvidia runs at.
>>108395114I feel you xister. I just set up a meeting in the ‘cord later for us to discuss our xtrategy. I think we should lean into the “jeet” angle more to get xhe chuds on our side, much as I hate to admit it it may be necessary…
>108395129Filtered for off topic. This has nothing to do with building a pc
>>108395137Answering this question >>108395077 >Are they going to abandon pc gaymers???Is definitely on topic to PC building. You don't have to announce your filter like a dramatic, bitter bitch.Stop acting like a woman.
>108395159Filtered for low quality and off topic misogynistic comments
I'm baking the next thread and blanking the cpu and gpu sections. This general will finally see peace
I like how since the prices went insane there are 0 real people here anymore actually trying to build and it's just the same 3 to 5 mentally ill schizo brand warriors shilling for their respective corporations every thread
Lossless Scaling can change your life for $7
>>108395077you speak as if it was AMD's faultnvidia literally simply won the lottery because half a dozen of faggot cientists decided to use CUDA for the machine learning gay shit and 20 years later that made jensen an evil rich pricksuccess it literally fell on their lap, if the cientists had used amd gpus nvidia wouldn't exist todayand now for the last 8 years and for the foreseeable future all amd can do is chase nvidia's trends and try to copy their ai stuff because that's where the money is
>>108395184There's a few real ones left, I just answered one guy's question in the earlier thread.If you don't like the state of this place, you can leave.
>>108395193amd is happy with console revenue and sony and xbox are unlikely to ever move away from amd in the future. its probably why they dont bother making high end gpus anymore
>>108395184I just checked in on the general for the first time in months and I'm very disappointed that a nico troon bake that hasn't even been updated in like a year is what I seeWhat happened to the autistic collaborating on something that everyone can half-way agree to? >>108395189It wouldn't be worth using if it was free
>>108395206amd still exists because of server, cpu and consoles, if it was just a gpu company like nvidia is/was it would have died at this point due to being so behind in ai, that's why I said if the cientists had used nvidia would probably not exist today, as all they do/did was sell gpusif amerikkka was a real country it would be sueing nvidia for being a monopoly but instead they are watching nvidia buy companies like groq and become an even bigger monopoly
Didn't see new thread, posted in the old oneI need your advice /g/ays, can't decide>Ryzen 5 5600x>Msi B550 mobo>16gb ddr4 3600mhz ram>rx6700xt>RM750x psuI built my system during the COVID era GPU shortage. I bought the 6700 XT as a placeholder because prices had gone completely mad in my country so I ended up buying it from amazon jp. Since I mostly stopped playing new games for a while, I was able to postpone an upgrade for years, but I think it's time??What should I do? Should I buy an RX 9070 XT now and stick with my current setup, then upgrade to AM5 later? I don’t want to sink a lot of money into the AM4 platform at this point, AM5 upgrade seems inevitable eventually. Currently my budget is a bit tight (it will get much better in a few months) so I can't switch to AM5 right now.
>>108395224>Should I buy an RX 9070 XT now and stick with my current setupthat's probably the best thing you can do right now, not worth going to am5 with these ram prices
>>108395224You missed the chance to upgrade to am5 if budget/value are at all a concern to you.Keep an eye out for good deals on x3d, or maybe even alder/raptor lake (can use ddr4) if you really need something.
>>108395224Unironically don’t get memed into buying a shit tier AMD card. DF has covered extensively why compared to equivalent Nvidia GPUs in raster AMD is actually a massively worse value even if raw price is a couple hundred different.
>>108395251DF have covered extensively why they love paid promotions
>>108395251Don't listen to this shill. Jeetforce drivers have become so bad they can't even run fortnite a cartoon kids game without stuttering like crazy
>>108395193>>108395223you make it sound like chance instead of being intentionally cultivated by nvidia. as a local example the guy that started comfyUI used to post on /sdg/ here on /g/ (maybe he still does, idk) to shill his shit. he used to be a big AMD proponent and shit on nvidia but when comfy was still just a small rival to a1111 nvidia reached out and gave him hardware and he changed his tune completely.so for the majority of the development period now the lead dev has an nvidia card in his machine testing on that as the first class citizen and that's how it goes.
Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Why. Fuck. Me. Why did I not stop? This fucking thing did not budge, any sane man would have given up.
>>108392401I cancelled my 9070 XT order. My brother reckons 900 AUD or less has been the usual price for a few weeks now since absolutely everybody is discounting them here, so it's basically just the normal price at this point. I'm not in a hurry to upgrade, and my brother reckons 9070 XT's will get cheaper yet since the goyim won't be able to afford current GPU prices if the Iran war keeps up.What do you guys think?
>>108395329You're dumb as fuck they aren't gonna go lower anytime 900 aud is only 640 USD which isn't that much above msrp
>>108395314Time to learn some new skills. Being recessed is going to suck.
>>108395225>>108395240I’ll probably get the gpu, find some used 32gb DDR4, and continue being a waitfag.
>>108395338Yeah but Iran and shit
>>108395329Definitely a good idea. At this point I’d sooner get a 4070 super or some shit because it’ll be the same price practically but futureproofed with standard DLSS technologies etc
>>108395361Probably your best bet. Honestly if the 5800x3d wasn't so god damn expensive, I would've just gotten that and just waitfagged instead of building a new pc.
It’s cute coming back to this thread occasionally and being reminded of how for teens and third worlders a paltry sum of like a few hundred bucks makes a world shattering difference in what they can afford and they’re doing these like autistic obsessive budget and value breakdowns over what amounts to petty cash. Reminds me of being a broke teen myself instead of an adult male with a job in the first world who can simply shrug and order the latest, best possible components with no sweat off my back anytime I feel like having a nicer PC. Just wait til you guys get into an actually expensive hobby kek
>>108395329I wouldn't spend more than 500 on an AMD card.
>>108395432is that USD or AUD
>>108395430>You)
Should I just shell out the $10k for all the top end hardware to play shitty games and make degenerate coomer AIslop?I don't have any better use for the money because I'm a loser.
adrenalin drivers
>>108395556You are a bit late to the party at this point. There is no right answer currently.
>>108395556yes
>Reporter: Some are concerned NVIDIA’s DLSS 5 will make games look worse or homogeneous.>In our Q&A today, Jensen Huang responded:>“They’re completely wrong… you can fine tune the generative AI to your artistic style… if you want cartoon, toon shader, made of glass… it’s up to you.
>>108395589Fit girls with fat tits please.
>blocks you're path
is it normal to come across so many people who ghost you on r/hardwareswap? i can't tell if i'm doing something wrong or what. someone message me for a trade, i ask for their timestamp, address, and legal name, and they ghost me. twice this happened.
>>108394577>YOU ARE HOLDING IT WRONG!HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA novideo in full damage control
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>>108395430>>108395430kinda true. tradies making <70,000 per year have no qualms picking up a new $200+ tool every week. /g/ sweating over an $800 gpu they need to replace every 4-6 years
Are 9800 X3D's pretty hot at max load? My idle is 40~45 ish In the games I've tested It's about 60~75ish During shader caching or some load screens it shot up to 90 temporarily. I've read about enabling PBO but haven't tweaked anything yet.
>>108395817>sweating over an $800 gpuWhat can I find a 5090 for $800?
>>108395846Will grant a 5090 is a unique situation right now given that it’s actually several thousand dollars minimum and at least 2-300% of the next GPU down, but the point is debating between whether you should get like an $800 9070 XT or an RTX 5080 for $1500… like its $700 more. My monthly mortgage payment is over 4 times that much and I’m not super wealthy or anything, but if I wasn’t able to find less than a grand for a one time purchase of a hobby I’m interested in I’d consider my living situation far too dire to be spending money on toys at all in the first place. Unless you’re house/rent poor it’s fairly straightforward to just cough up an extra 700 bucks for something that you’re not going to need to buy again for at least several years. Even just for convenience sake since it’ll obviously have more staying power and I can put off having to switch out a graphics card for an extra year or two.
>>108395822thats all normal boosting behavior.
Getting a 4080 for $800 was the best decision ever. It was right when the super dropped which was like 1% faster and even now the 4080 is basically the same or better than a 5070 Ti performance wise. Nowadays I’d be stuck with a shit ass AMD sloppa card with half the performance for the same price
>>108394951Dlss5 will never be released in any meaningful way. What we saw over the past few days was nothing but bullshots meant to drive up enthusiasm for ai investment firms. I doubt nvidia had any real intentions of ever releasing what they showed in the tech demo because it was all lies 'smoke and mirrors' to confuse boomers to invest in a company and industry they know nothing about and never will.
>>108395898>the same or betterI was about to refute this but it’s actually true. The 5070 Ti not even beating the original 4080 is fucking hilarious especially since that card was the value black sheep of the 40 series line up
>>108395898The 5080 is just a 4080super with some architecture shuffled around to make room for things that aren't even relevant to the average user. Same for the entire blackwell lineup.Looking at all these post from half a year ago telling people to wait for the 5080 super is kind of funny though. Maybe they'll release a refresh when they drop dlss5, lol.
>>108395822normal
>>108395891>>108395963Thanks anons
>>108395822Don't touch pbo it will fry your cpu.
>>108395822mines does about the same. 38-45c idle. 55-60c light load/gaming. 80-90c for all cores.
>>108395954>Looking at all these post from half a year ago telling people to wait for the 5080 super is kind of funny though.It made sense to wait for the refreshes if people weren't satisfied with the current generation of GPUs, before OpenAI decided to buy up to 40% of the available memory production capacity.People who kept up with news of these mid-gen product refresh cycles had plenty of time to decide to settle with existing RTX 50 or RX 9000 cards at reasonable prices.There were plenty of RTX 5070 Ti's sold at around $750~800 during last holiday shopping season and RTX 5080s priced around $1,000~1,200.Not to mention the high end 9070 XT's being discounted to under $700 during this time.Those Super waiters didn't get burned as badly as you guys think they've been.The OpenAI deal was made public on October 2025.If these waiters didn't buy those 5070 Ti or 5080s during those holiday season, they never wanted those cards to begin with.
Do you guys think RTX 5000 series will be able to run DLSS 5 on the regular cards or will that only work with dual 5090s?
>>108396098They used dual 5090s so people could swap back and forth without a delay.FAQ clarifies it's intended use is on one gpu.
>>108395822AMD's IHS are shit. Idle will pretty much always be 40-50.They're normally not too bad under load, I wouldn't really worry about it unless you're throttling. CPU temperature spikes are normal, especially if your fan speed is variable.
>>108396098It's a very early tech demo, it's not a practical feature.This stuff is at least 2~3 generations away like the first path tracing demo.NVIDIA was just throwing gamers a bone.The person who keeps saying NVIDIA previewed DLSS5 for investors is a fucking moron.
>>108396098>RTX 5000 seriesit will probably "run" but not be very usable until a generation or two out
>>108396098Realistically they may be able to distill the model down to function on a 5090. I don't think they'll be able to squeeze it into 8gb or 4gb necessary to run on a 16gb card. We still have no idea how much system ram its going to take up either but I don't expect it to take up less than 16gb of dram. I think the bare minimum of what we saw running in the tech demo would be a 5090 if even. I wouldn't be surprised if the model they had running on the second 5090 was using all 32gb of vram and hundreds of gbs of dram.Yes this will not only use vram but also an insane amount of system dram.
>>108396098Its coming on the fall so it will run on anything as long as you upscale agressively enough, keep in mind that extreme large models require less runtime to run the lower input res you use, for example on a 3080 TI DLSS 4.5 L has a runtime of over 5 ms which gets reduced to 1.6 at 1920x1080, Basically They only needed the two 5090 bullshit to run DLSS 5.0 at 4k because the model probably is extremely expensive and they were running demos with both PT and DLSS 5.0, most hardware below the 5090 will probably run it at lower resolution as long as you dont activate together with PT maybe the 5080 will be able to run 1440p PT or ultra performance 4k PT with dlss 5.0 though because it has quite a bit more AI top performance than the 5070 ti
>>108396143>>108396116>>108396109>>108396115Thanks, I guess that means an RTX 5000 series GPU isn't as important to get.
>>108396154Anon they said its coming on the fall, i wouldnt trust these retards
>want to build a workstation>9950X smokes threadrippers in single thread performance>care more about day-to-day software responsiveness than a few minutes of compilation timewut door do i just wait a few months for the next gen CPUs
>>108394979>9060xtliterally loses on price/perf to a 9070
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>>108396154Well I don't know about all of that, it's coming this fall, and if they thought it was so heavy it would only be usable on like a 5090 they would have just locked it to next gen and not announced it so early
>>108396189>>1083949799060xt is a total waste of money
>>108395063Will this matter to me on Linux
>>108396174How much ram do you plan on purchasing?
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>>108396190Isn't the 3D vcache bad for workstation usage? i dont gayme>>108396208Probably just 128GB, ideally ECC RAM but honestly I care more about my workstation being responsive
Fuck AMD so much, these fags won't just give you a simple Steam Key for this Korean Desert game; you have to register for some AMD Rewards bullshit and link your Steam account to your chickenshit AMD account and then it will add it to your library. I don't want the fucking game, I don't give a shit about it and I'd rather sell the key. Are they just doing this to goad Radeon customers into playing the game?
>>108396233Can you post the key in here pls
>>108396230anything thats memory latency sensitive the X3D improves. games happen to be the biggest benefit because they are memory speed bottlenecked. thats why overclocking your gpu vram sometimes gives bigger gain the core.
>>108396246No point, to redeem the AMD code you also need to download an AMD Rewards app that detects you have a GPU with the right serial number
>>108396280>serial numberThe GPU doesnt store that shitAll it does is scan your PC to make sure you have the right device ID which is as spoofable as GPU-Z.
>>108396230>Probably just 128GBNew egg has several 128gb combos right now. You wont find a better price on memory.
How do you run OAM GPUs? You need a specific motherboard ("baseboard") for them, right? And they only sell those with the GPUs. So where are these GPUs on eBay from? And how come there aren't any motherboards?
>previous thread just reached bump limit>this thread is already half overretards.
>>108396325Brb baking a new one
>>108396189to follow this up i wanted to compare a few more cards on price to performance, i'll use cheapest card prices on pcpartpickereverything is relative to 9060xt 16gb, $4409070, $610, 64% more performance, 39% more expensive, 17% more cost effective9070xt, $730, 83% more performance, 66% more expensive, 10% more cost effective5060ti 16gb, $550, 7% more performance, 25% more expensive, 14% less cost effective5070, $630, 51% more performance, 43% more expensive, 6% more cost effective5070ti, $950, 90% more performance, 115% more expensive, 12% less cost effective
Remember. Don't have an SSD be your only storage solution. Especially for any vital data or irreplaceable media or files.
>>108396336pure cost effectiveness isn't a great way of looking at these things. since you're using the 4k chart here's the 4k fps one38 fps might as well be 0
>>108396377the goal is to make every gpu run at 100%. as long as you don't hit the vram limit it should be fine. 1440p would be alright if you want to "zoom" in on a range of gpus/ price but running high end gpus at only 1440p is going to make their results look "worse" because they aren't getting used to 100% all the time.
>>108396377that's an average of many games at max settingsin practice those tend to be overkill and you can always cut things down and the proportions will always remain, the point was to just show how much meat you're getting for the money you're spending
>>108396271So that bundle plus pic related for ~$4k is probably the best I can do?
>>108396411that ssd is overpriced as shithttps://pcpartpicker.com/product/hwqrxr/crucial-p5-plus-wheatsink-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-ct2000p5pssd5you can get 2 2tb ssds for that same amount of money and pcie5 is a meme for ssds
>>108396410Do you actually have a purpose for this build? Or are you just trying to figure out the "2points of value for every dollar spent" solution?
should i get 48gb of cudimm? 8000MT/s cas 38, i have a 285k.
>>108396436get a 9850x3d with some cheap 5600mhzgoing to be faster
>>108396432i'm not building anything, i just did some basic math to show the cost effectiveness of gpusbringing up their average fps benchmark doesn't really prove anything because you can always cut settings since they're doing them at max and that's not exactly efficientwhat you actually want to know is how much performance you're getting relative to everything else and if you're overpaying for it
>>108396440When you say faster, why?Why would having 5600mhz ram be just as good as 8000mhz? Are games only using like 5000mhz or something? I am genuinely curious.I can understand like, if you have 48gb of ram, and the game uses 40gb, you'll have better fps than somebody with 32 because there is just an excess of ram. But when it comes to how games process timings and mhz of RAM, nobody seems to tell me.
>>1083964579850x3d going to be faster even with slow ram. intel cpus which need high speed ddr5 are just stupid in this market because those kits are the most expensive. a 9850x3d performs well even with low speed and high latency ram.
>>108396425Thanks
>>108396466What if I told you that I paid the same as a 9800x3d for my 285k
>>108396491you still got a bad deal because you now have to spend more on ram + you are now on a socket that won't see any good cpus also no avx512 support
>>108396491>>108396502it's also going to need an expensiv mobo and cooling
>>108396502>you still got a bad dealalright buddy
>GPU prices going down
>>108396517Oh, nevermind. It was third party scam sellers fucking around.
>>108396513>it is impossible to buy things at a cheap price, you will waste money because i say sook man
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>>1083965247800x3d
>>108396528I still want to know how timings affect gaming
>>108396534>>108396528stop spamming charts, they are not absolutes, you cannot read one chart and be like "durrr, it says there its good so its always good"
>>1083965475800x3d (with ddr4) is still close to the 265k
>>108396554you're close to getting my foot up your ass
>>108396566core ultra shit
>>108396569thanks for wasting my fucking time retard
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>>108396590Thanks for wasting my fucking time, retard.
>>1083965371. More data faster, less waiting around for data. If the RAM cannot manage enough data for a request in one cycle, it will need to do it in two cycles, hence slower.2. X3D stores more data right with the CPU so needs to fetch less from RAM.3. X3D is less sensitive to MT/s compared to normal cache CPUs, but is still sensitive to memory timings. Which means lots of boring manual tweaking if you really want max performance still.
>>108396614You again huh
>>108396623Me?
>just did DDU and windows update (it was paused since January because of the performance bug)>5600x>5070 tiSo uh... I got some questions :1) V-sync : On or Off? I use a G-sync compatible monitor.2) Any important settings to use in Nvidia app?I already use ''custom mode" and modify some things like activate FXAA, anti-aliasing : auto etc
8000mhz vs 6400mhzhttps://youtu.be/upE23oCYZOg?t=429
60 FPS was good enough 20 years ago.PS2 graphics are the pinnacle of 3d rendering Everything after has only degraded and worsened while being expensive for no reason Imagine still following pc hardware … of course it turned into this Indian AI diarrhea… that is the future of all this needless consumer electronics hype cycle and pointless iteration. A big steaming pile of shit
>>108396639Vsync with a variable refresh monitor is less relevant to not relevant at all. It will only matter in this case if your framerate >= the monitor's framerate and it will help to cap it out and prevent screen tearing. If you set your refresh cap below your monitor's specs then you will never need or see vtec kicking in.
>>108394613wait, he's crashing out over dlss5?
>>108394816yes they installed windows out of support and first amd driver pack they found and video was nonworking
>>108396666>if your framerate >= the monitor's framerate and it will help to cap it out and prevent screen tearing. If you set your refresh cap below your monitor's specs then you will never need or see vtec kicking in.I see, so in a singleplayer games it should be activated for maximum smoothness.And in multiplayer games (which runs like 300~400 fps), I should turn V-sync off for the lowest input delay possible and display info.
>>108394818>Jay I just wish he'd focus on evergreen content. Do builds that are cool and different.Bro, all these techtubers are lazy as fuck and don't do shit but ride their antique algorithm scores to the bank. You'll never see any real creativity or effort put into any of these channels because they believe that effort and work is above them.
why am I just now finding out AM5 has some weird hotspot offset that I need to put adapters on my motherboard in order to fix?
>>108395224no looks good as ismaybe build a new later
>>108396643nice cherrypicking you disingenuous faggoti knew you were full of shit from the start btw
>>108396760all in line. that one 0.1 27.2 fps frame is an outlier since that is like one of the only games it happened in. cherry picker.
>>108396673It's satire, pic is the original article.https://kotaku.com/jeff-kaplan-overwatch-legend-california-stream-twitch-2000679066
>>108396776I hope your first born child gets raped
>>108396673All devs are, all the demos that they showcased and people are shitted on where done in collaboration with all the devs from those studios and Bethesda, CAPCOM, Hotta Studio, NetEase, NCSOFT, S-GAME, Tencent, Ubisoft and Warner Bros. Games. were in direct collaboration developing it, so when all the luddites are shitting on it they are shitting on the work on devs actually, it gets even more funnier beccause grave the principal reason the retards are mad about was modeled after Julia Pratt and guess which models looks closer to her between dlss 5.0 and non dlss 5.0Now the cool thing about this is that devs are contrarian retards and they will unironically push even harder for this to prove gamers wrong as they hate gamers
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>>108396713With variable refresh monitors it is common practice to always set the cap below the max, so in practice in any kind of game you will never hit Vsync. For SP or non competitives in general you are likely to be limited by game performance rather than hitting the monitor's cap, unless you have some ancient 60-75 FPS monitor.
>>108396811Well you're just wrong aren't you, there is no point me even explaining it, you're miserable and rotten and a fucking loser so you can't be right.
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>>108396834How do you accept me abusing you to your face without it being true?
>>108396813Thanks for the explanation anon.
>>108396837why should it bother me if it is not true? that's like calling some white dude a nigger and then complaining that he doesn't get mad. or a dude walking with his girlfriend a faggot.
>>108396854Are you genuinely retarded?
>>108395975>Don't touch pboI remember someone in an earlier thread said to go and enable and then disable PBO, since even if it's off by default it's actually active god knows why. I could be wrong, I haven't been following all this shit.My 9800x3d is still sitting on he box pile, still need to buy the cpu cooler.
