>2026>still no legitimate use for crypto """currency""" besides gambling and drugsWhen will crypto bros understand that you need to be able to buy normal things with crypto for anyone to take it seriously? Monero actually had a legitimate value proposition but the community has utterly failed at creating an economy for it of regular goods/services.
>>108395859don't forget scamming seniors and retards
>>108395859Using Monero as an example discredits your point (which I agree with) because it is the apex crypto for buying drugs.
>>108395859i buy shit with xlm,eth, and btc everyday with the coinbase visa. as long as they accept visa my transaction goes through.
>>108395866Monero is the only crypto currency that should exist because it offers SOME kind of benefit.Now does that benefit make it the best option when it comes to illegal dealings? Yes, sure. But it also means no company can log your transactions and start profiling you and selling your data to advertisers.Organizations like grapheneOS, protonmail, ente, etc are all becoming more popular with each passing year because there is a growing market of privacy minded people who aren't doing anything illegal.
>>108395859I live in Taiwan and I'm too scared to buy shrooms using monero cause we have the death penalty from drug trafficking. Thanks for reading my diary
>>108395859whats so hard in using a prepaid debit card? what's the difference
>>108395892>I pay both (((coinbase))) and (((visa))) for the privilege of pretending I'm spending cryptocurrencyYou seriously are ngmi.
i paid my VPN and 4chan pass with Monero, so there's that
>>108395918even when you just buy it and someone sends you a package from abroad?
>>108395859>gamblingWhy would you need it for gambling?
>>108395892>the coinbase visa. as long as they accept visayou are at it.there was near fuck nobody would accept that POS when I tried using it, admittedly few years back. It appears there is VISA and Coinbase VISA. And nobody wants to fucking know about the latter. ATM's would literally tell you to do one.
>>108397651I mean speculative buying/selling which is mainly why people interact with crypto
>>108395859At least Monero is used as an actual currency.Other cryptos are just speculative assets or glorified stock markets.>>108396264Anonymity.
What is the current method for swapping XMR into BTC/LTC? Businesses often avoid accepting Monero because they don't want to be associated with le druggie coin, so I've missed out on paying with crypto at least twice over this shit, despite merchant accepting a whole range of coins.
>>108395859I use it to pay for Mullvad and Addy every month. Maybe a VPS soon.
>>108395918Democratic nation btw
>>108395859>no use case for anonymous monetary transfersrabbinic hands typed this post.
>>108395859People buy HRT and other overregulated gray area stuff with it. There are plenty of uses for crypto.
>>108395918Just don't do it. It's not worth it. Shrooms are kind of lame too.
>>108398152way to completely miss the point. he's talking about community adoption and practical uses, not theoretical benefits.
>>108397450But 4chan doesn't accept XMR.
>>108398170a technology doesn't need normalnigger adoption to have merit. failing to create an economy is irrelevant.
>>108398170>>108398188also consider that its utility is proven by government regulators coping and seething and banning (or effectively banning) the trade of monero on Approved Vendor™ exchanges.
>>108398145I've travelled in Europe and US and I'm very happy that my government is strict AF, I can go out after 8 without being assaulted by 10 Arabs unlike in Germany or NY lek>>108398168>>108397611but I tried in Europe and I liked it. Also here's a fun fact, in Taiwan you have 3 categories of drugs :>Category 1 – Heroin, Morphine, Cocaine, OpiumPossession: Prison: 6 months to 5 years.Traffic: Death or Life Imprisonment + up to USD $1M fine.>Category 2 – Marijuana (Cannabis), Methamphetamine, MDMA (Ecstasy), PoppyPossession: Prison: Max 3 years.Traffic: Life Imprisonment or 10+ years + up to USD $500k fine.>Category 3 – Ketamine, FM2, RohypnolPossession (<20g): Fine: USD $300–$1,500 + 4–8hr drug seminar (No prison).Traffic: Prison: 7+ years to Life + up to USD $330k fine.>Category 4 – Tramadol, Diazepam (Valium), Xanax, Precursor chemicalsPossession (<20g): Fine: USD $300–$1,500 + 4–8hr drug seminar (No prison).Traffic: Prison: 5 to 12 years + up to USD $165k fine.So a lot of people just take ketamin, like really a lot and weed is way more illegal than K
>>108398297Category 4 seems really strange. Aren't those supposed to be prescription drugs?
>>108398297I go out every night here in Europe and have not ever felt threatened
>>108398188the argument is not that XMR has no merit or that there is no use case for anonymous monetary transfers. the argument is that XMR is getting its potential curbed not only by regulations, but also by a relative lack of practical solutions. in theory i should be able to use XMR to anonymously complete any payment imaginable. in practice, i can access this one online exchange, buy XMR with cash from the one guy who happens to sell it, then use it to buy Galician avocados on this one website that happens to take XMR, or maybe get the one guy who will take XMR in exchange for completing my payment with a CC. on top of being obscure, every step of this process could also be illegal. so dismissing these criticisms by claiming "well, it still has merit" is missing the point of the conversation entirely.
>>108396499>ngmi>$4,5million net worth>spend my crypto at willngmi though
>>108398340>every step of this process could also be illegalSo you do understand that regulation is the bottleneck when it comes to retail stores. The fuck do you expect us to do about it
>>108395859You forgot porn. It also gives you more privacy and anonymity and lets you bypass the restrictions that banks or credit card companies may impose on various industries despite being legal.
>>108398055>buy any crypto>swap for XMR>swap for BTC/ETH>chain of traceability has been broken and you can complete your transactionBut it would be much smoother if you could simply pay for monero outright.
I buy eggs with monero.
>>108398447send me XMR
All the emphasis on saving cash should instead be turned to monero. Even dollar bills have identification methods and can be traced but the average paranoid boomer doesn't understand this space, which is why we should be lowering the barrier of entry and increasing the offerings of what you can buy with monero.I've looked around and it seems like most monero marketplaces are either purely for illegal services, scams, or look straight out of 2001. Seriously considering vibe coding up a storefront and working with normal sellers to start selling shit there instead.
>>108398447>$4.5M monopoly moneyngmi
>>108395892>I buy everyday>with the coinbase visapathetic anon.
>>108398055I just use Cake wallet
>>108398173buy XMR, anonymously swap to the shitcoin (Polygon?) that 4chan accepts using trocador or cake wallet
>>108395859Thanks CopeGPT.
>>108398473>So you do understand that regulation is the bottleneckNo, motherfucker. Read the entire post instead of cherrypicking. In my country (though not the case in some others), XMR itself, Tor, and sending cash in the mail, are all legal. Yet despite this, the ways to go around using it for legitimate purposes are extremely limited.
>>108398971Don't you have to login through the coinbase portal? It will be associated with your coinbase account which you need full ID verification for.
>>108398689>XMR>swap for BTC/ETHThe question was how2do this part.
For people to use Monero the benefits have to outweigh the costs. For buying drugs on the internet, it's there but for most people it's not yet. Soon though, the benefits will be greater and the costs lower, and as more people tip over into using Monero, the easier and more useful it becomes for everyone else.First the cost of using Monero right now is high for the average person. It is hard to acquire and the wallets are unintuitive and too hard for average people. Hopefully by the end of this year Monero will be ready with an upgraded protocol which will make much simpler wallets possible. Assuming wallets that take advantage of this get built, the cost of using Monero will go down a lot.As for benefits, I think it's obvious what's ahead of us in terms of financial freedom. So far the benefits of Monero have mostly been extolled in hypothetical terms or using examples of circumstances in far away countries. Those benefits aren't tangible enough for most people. But what's coming will be. Tonight on the news there two stories hinting at it. One was a story on whether fuel needs to be rationed and another was about the rise of counterfeit cash. They don't just talk about this stuff for no reason. Rationing seems dumb and unworkable until you realise they're going to eventually roll out some kind of digital currency with UBI and rationing built in. Cash will be gone or as good as. Monero is the best solution.
>>108395859sorry to crush your world but Cryptos are not currencies but scam tools for big players like FED, WB ,IMF and all sort of shady groups .When one of these parties need quick money they come and start dumping money then huge group of Little poor individual SOBs jump in and drive price While big player no longer use his money just watch how those idiots throw all they hard earned money in !Then big Player sell when price is crazy Up ad There you have it Another big Bitcoin crash...Then mons or so is quiet and then another Big player arrive and same situation take place.Since Bitcoin sheep are notoriously retarded and blind cycle repeat.And everyone still wonder why Bitcoin and other are still not considered illegal.Because USA FED is main owner of this shit!
Do Monerofags run a bot farm on the entire site or something?
>>108399071They run the dick website and also spam the cp so they're always here
>>108398315>here in EuropeYou'll need to be more specific. Bosnia is safer than Germany nowadays.
>>108399147Slovenia, even with plenty of Bosnians around
>>108399047>financial liberty that bypasses all censors is a scam!
>>108395859>>still no legitimate use for crypto """currency""" besides gambling and drugsThere never will be.CryptoTARDS need to learn what "fiat currency" is.
>>108395918>eats a mushroom>gets executedpowerful
>>108398918>>108398913>>108398832stay poor
>>108397686youre a retard and liar
>>108395859pumb
>>108399009no you can use the Coinbase app, create a new self-custodial wallet and scan a QR code to "connect" the app when paying for the 4chan pass. no Coinbase account or KYC needed
>>108398447>>108399533saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar
>>108400142POS
>>108399011>so easy it needs no explanationI'm stuck at this mystery myself often times.
>>108401291100% white european*
>bitcoin $70k a coin>no ones gonna take it seriously!retard missed out now wants to make retarded threads on /g/
>>108401412So one plebbit post is supposed to mean you're right? You realize I've been using it for 7 years right? You're full of shit kid
>>108395859Privacy is a use case
>>108395892Fuck yeah. Coin-based bro fist
>>108398297So you don’t have gangs or people selling drugs and guns over there?
>>108395918Be grateful. Lax drug laws have turned every downtown in Canada into skidrow. Junkies should be maided
>>108395893>gOS has a secret google blackbox running in every phone that no one can access, doing who knows what>protonmail give user info to companies that then sell it on to law enforcement and (most likely) advertising agencies>growing market of privacy minded peopleGrowing market of retards who don't care about privacy, sure
I used it to buy estrogen, and estrogen is not illegal (yet).
>>108395859I would like to ask something about Monero because I don't know it well enough.Can you identify wallets if you know "most" of the transactions or is it statistically impossible?For example, there are scrambling stuff implemented on other chains but usually they just mix multiples of wallets so it looks meaningless from outside but say if most of the purchases are from Amazon, they can easily identify who owns which wallet and you'd be willingly giving your data to them anyway for delivery and billing.
>>108404360Short answer: no. Monero is designed from the outset to be private and when people are criticizing it's privacy it's about autistic edge cases that could only be exploited by hypothetical actors to get mostly minor bits of information. It's nothing like what's possible on other blockchains.
>>108404143GrapheneOS is open source and auditable.Protonmail only gives user info to the GOVERNMENT (not "companies") when they are subpoena'd which every company must do.And again the whole point of this thread is that these services are becoming more popular among people who aren't doing anything illegal, but monero is being largely left behind.
>>108401897Can't tell if you're being sarcastic, but I'm still waiting for someone to kindly offer a QRD. Do I need to ask Dread or something?
>>108395859My website takes limited crypto payments, and sells a real physical product. Shopify's crypto support is shit, but I managed. Nobody has even attenpted to buy with crypto afaik. Sadly, no xmr, as no Shopjfy processor will accept it.
>>108395892>Coinbase VisaGood goy
>>108405777>Protonmail only gives user info to the GOVERNMENT (not "companies") when they are subpoena'd which every company must do.Who forces them to collect the data in the first place?
>>108398297Based. TDD (total druggie death).
>>108395859Xmrbazaar is eBay with Monero.Shopinbit is amazon with Monero.You can get pretty good deals on things too sometimes.It's also my go-to way of making donations to projects because 99% of what I'm donating actually goes to the cause I'm supporting and I don't have to give up credentials
>>108395859Don't listen to the scam.Buy Bitcoin.
>>108406318you think it's a credit card? lmao. fucking brainlets
>>108395859>besides gambling and drugsdrugs are a legitimate use lol
>>108399533>bypassesIt bypasses nothing and is less anonymous than paying with cash. Crypto is fiat v2.0 - the dystopia edition.
>>108395859https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/nasdaq-receives-sec-nod-trading-tokenized-securities-2026-03-18/
>>108398447that 4.5 would have been double a few months ago lol
>>108408122If a website has trouble setting up traditional payment systems for various reasons or if payment processors decides to heavily restrict certain businesses you can legally bypass that by using crypto as a merchant and customer. Great for stuff online where it's gonna be difficult to send cash by mail for everything.
>>108395859i need my private vps for my minecraft server
>>108409685and i dont want to deal with any of those kyc bullshit, will never comply if there is a way
>>108395859Tbh for most people paying with crypto, especially monero, it's just inconvenient. Because when you're buying with fiat you're integrating yourself to the full system, and that is beneficial for most transactions. When you want utmost privacy and independence from the system, you'd use monero et al, like darkweb market places.As a summary, it's not worth it, if not disadvantageous for most usecases like buying groceries. And don't forget that for a reason or another, you can wake up and find that the majority of your shitcoin value is gone; it's not stable, atleast compared with other currencies that stand on many pillars, and nothing serious will happen unless a war starts or something akin.Crypto as a currency is useful as a medium until it's exchanged for a real thing.
>>108412115>until it's exchanged for a real thing.such as?
>>108395859>gambling and drugsyou say that like there is something wrong with those thingsbut in all seriousness, Monero is what buttcoin should have been, and sadly, what normies think it is.The (((surveillance))) state is the enemy, and there is nothing wrong with privacy
>>108395859there's still no legitimate use for federal reserve (it's not federal) nor any other rotschild bank but we are here
