Holy shit vibecoding has been amazing for code productivity
SAAR
>>108399922Sadly not for quality
>>108399999Quints of truth, but even if only 1% is good then that's still a huge improvement
>>108399922yay we are drowning in vast amounts of slopwhat a time to be alive!
Fake news. The science has already proved that AI makes you 19% slower.
>>108400012If you look at the open source projects on github it doesn't seem that way
>>108400093That's for people writing code that could feasibly generate revenue
>>108399922It all depend how you look at it !!!But honestly?Do you really see any kind of progress?Because I see almost dead Internet and even Youtube is literally on death bed!So ...Graf are most probably irrelevant or strait forward AI hallucination!
More software does not mean anything to me if most software is useless or bad.Just like how more commits isn't a good metric to me. I'd rather drive a car that doesn't need daily maintenance, yet for some reason people consider a repo getting commits every hour to be "healthy".I want old, boring, working software. Not new, hastily developed, maintenance fests that require spawning new repos for new dependencies that do nothing.
>>108399922>measuring productivity with lines of codeKILL YOUR SELF
>>108399922We will soon reach a point where app distribution has to be manually vetted again.
>>108400213I think it was Boris Cherny, the creator of Claude Code who bragged that he commited 32k line that month, then I look closer and it says 32k added, 30k deleted. So really just 2k lines and if the were written more efficiently it would probably be 1k.AI just increases churn, it hardly produces more production level code.
>>108400344>then I look closerdo you work at anthropic? if not how did you get your hands on their closed source repo to see changes?
>>108399922how many of these new apps and new websites actually profitable? most people don't install new apps and don't use new websites
>>108400012There is no good vibecoded code. It's all shit. 100% of it.Im actually considering starting a business that focuses on fixing vibecoded slop. Fees start at $1000/hour
productivity =/= thing exists now
>>108399922>productivity measured in LOS (lines of slop/shit)
>>108399922>more km covered when people without driving license given a carwow
>>108399999Checked
>>108400647>WiseNot so wise
>>108400344didn't they have multiple serious service outages like a week after that tweet
>>108400379It's on Twitter
>>108399922As someone who made a public git repo with a slop coded application on it, it took me all of an hour to proooompt it out. Yeah it worked, but I'm also never going to add to that or expand it in anyway whatsoever. I also know there's parts of the code that look like complete shit, and are not extensible as written.This is just measuring productivity as pure output, and that's fucking retarded. Most of these AI apps are the equivalent of burning tens of thousands of tokens just to dig a hole and fill it back in again. It existing is the same contribution to the world as if it didn't ever exist. Nobody will be downloading or relying on my slop coded application. I made it to see what it was like to slop code in the laziest manner possible (no .md files or anything).>>108400548Basically this.
>>108400753And I also see the same at my company. Added lines are already not a good metric, but now it's not even that, it's just changed lines. Let me add 2k lines of slop today, and tomorrow I'll delete them and add 2k lines of different slop.
>>108400753Time to download all the software you'll need for the next couple of years before it gets replaced with AIslop
>>108400737They have problems all the time, yesterday and today was also bad. I'm not even saying that this must be because of their slop code, and I'm also not even saying that AI is completely useless, but it's just not better than a good engineer, and definitely not some 10x or even higher multiplier.
>>108400530>Im actually considering starting a business that focuses on fixing vibecoded slop. Fees start at $1000/hour100$/hour service fee plus 900$/hour hazard pay so you don't blow your brains out when having to go through the absolute slop you get sent every day. Seems only fair.
>>108400012That's only an improvement if the remaining 99% is getting deleted. It isn't. It's being pushed to production with almost no testing.
>>108399922>productivity40% more hello world websites and trash on github
>>108399922SAAAR LINE WENT UP NOW WE ARE CEO SAAR I AM BRAHMIN CEO I BAN ALL TOILETS IN COMPANY BUILDING MADERCHODBy the way jeetjanny really hates gif related
>>108402298jeet website at this point
>>108399999>CHECKEDVibecoders are fucking dead
>>108399999Checked. All this code yet nothing of note has come out except for OpenClaw. All these LinkedIn/Twitter AIbros talking about how they shit out 10k LoC a day and still no product to show for it.
>>108399922Where are these websites and apps, the internet is a fucking graveyard
>>108399999Yes
>>108399999God having none of this vibe bullshit lmao
>>108399922All slop All shit All bullshit I'm sure youtube going from 2 million uploads in 2024 to 20 million uploads in 2025 has only resulted in a massive improvement for the platform.
I have improved my codeflow tremendously by using Claude Code, an agentic coding tool that reads your codebase, edits files, runs commands, and integrates with your development tools. It takes not time to understand the agentic loop, built-in tools, and how Claude Code interacts with your project.
>>108403197https://www.appbrain.com/apps/popular/new
>>108400012First of, no that wouldn't be huge, second off that would still be a negative due to how much time it takes from people doing code reviews and how much of the 99% makes it into production
>>108399922yet everything becomes objectively worse and i have yet to see a successful vibe coded project
>>108400647As a software engineer I can tell you this is bullshit.We don't pay for Claude ourselves, our employers cover that too.
>>108405066openclaw is fully vibecoded and the most popular project on github.
>>108399922>muh productivity>more slop good
>art website gets overrun with ai pictures because of the zero skill or time needed to make them>ART PRODUCTIVITY SKYROCKETS BECAUSE OF AI!
its over for h*mans
>>108399922There's conflicting data on this claiming that most employees actually got slower with ai.This explosion of adds and websites likely means that people who barely/don't know how to code gave it a shot and made something. Also, there's a lot of people trying to make an ai bullshit app that will make them rich. It's the dotcom era website frenzy but with apps.So effectively qheat seems to be happening is that the barrier of skill/knowledge to make something got nuked into the floor, but more complex stuff might still be done faster by humans. Ofcourse this might change as AI gets better to the point that a person who has only coded loops and ifs might be able to work as well as the best coders by using ai.
>>108400095Foss has always been a shitshow where most of the work is sifting through the retardation to get commits that actually improve something. It's just that the maintainers now have to look through 10x as much volume of code
>>108400647called it already its the bait and switch phasethe year is 2029, 10% of the software devs remain, they may 750k base, 500k go goes to cursor
>>108400647This take is pretty stupid. As long as you have to work the same hours for the same pay, nothing changes by the work being more mindless. Hell, for a lot of people that actually liked the job before it probably got significantly worse.
>>108399999Absolutely cosmic get
>>108400795>all the software you'll needWhat do you even need nowadays? It's all websites aside from proffessional softwares most of which were coded 40 years ago that won't be getting changed with ai significantly any time soon.
>>108399922Good. Now let them train models on this new shiny code, it will be very fun
>>108400012Kill yourself vibejeet
>>108400647Uh oh the database went down again
>>108405864the models are trained on reinforcement loops with generated programming questions on scale. we have only observed improvement in quality.
>>108406077Lol no ai code is still shit
Wow 2 billion new products and I'm using none of them. This has been such a boon for me personally. I hope even more products come out that I never even hear about because it makes the line go up.
>>108400530>Im actually considering starting a business that focuses on fixing vibecoded slop.Don't. They'll just "fix" your fixes with more vibe-code.
>>108399999witnessed. or the "apps" are all more "vibecoding" tools no one asked for or get value from.
>>108405435You are so close.the year is 2029, 10% of the software devs remain, they are all indian, paid 70k tops, 500k still goes to cursor
>>108400530>Im actually considering starting a business that tortures peoplebro chill
>>108399999Put me in the screenshot
>>108399922right, i've also run into a few vibecoded projects on github! as soon as i identify them as vibeslop i move on and don't use them. they publish as many vibeslop repos as they want. they only use it's getting is training data for AI.
>>108399999check'd
>>108399999checked
>>108405440Yes you produce much more shit
>>108399922wow that's like millions of lines a second i'm so productive saaaaaaaaaaar
>>108399999Confirmed. I've noticed that most of my recent websearches have turned up almost completely AI generated slop, which includes the now integrated AI-generated slop answers (which are usually wrong in some way), 99.9999% of search results are AI-generated slop websites, and now even the Youtube videos that show up in search results are about 80% AI-generated slop where the video is just a series of images with AI voiceover. I haven't used any "new" software/apps since the AI craze has started because there has been nothing of value produced. At best, maybe some of the legacy stuff that I use has seen some updates/patches that were assisted by AI, but who knows.We're already at the point where people are using AI to try to autodetect and filter out AI.
>>108400647I think this is probably targetted guerilla marketing, aimed specifically at devs. It has all the classic markers.>This product could make you lots of money>Everyone's doing it>Are you missing out?>What are you? Some kind of chump?Been seeing more FOMO based advertising and PR recently.
>>108399922>>108399983>The past year has seen an explosion in cell reproduction>Year-on-year growth in various types of cancer cells
>>108400012what the fuck kind of dystopian statement is this>"yeah we're flooding every github repo in the world with so much non-functional dogshit spam no one can use the internet anymore">"but <0.1% of it actually runs!"Begin whatever steps you have to take to stop existing.
>>108399999quints of lies and deceit. its absolutely raised the floor.
>>108399999Sturgeon's Law but at a massive scale now.
>>108399922I made the mistake of trying to contribute to a vibe coded project on github recently.The dev didn't even make his own replies to issues and PRs.Every reply was a claude wall of words.The project which sorta appeared to work at first was full of basic bugs that wouldn't have existed if the code was even tested once by the person developing that feature.In one patch, the bot reformatted everything to bloat it up, wall of words style.In the next patch, it denied there was a bug at all.Then when I persisted it said it was a bridge too far to add 5 toUpperCase string comparisons since the compared values were not always upper. Apparently THAT would be bloat.Then when I pointed out the thing was already a bloated claude mess it decided fixing my "edge case" meant I was not the target audience and closed the issue.Since AI work can't be copyrighted, I'm just taking the thing, chopping out all the bloat, and calling it mine now.That's where AI coding is going, to the LISP curse. Everyone has their own one off implementation of everything.Nobody collaborates anymore.And I can see that, because covid zoomies have zero social skills and can't collaborate if they tried.>>108407638It definitely is and is eye rolling cringe at the same time.
>>108409893I'm noticing something similar.You see, i'm studying computer science at my uni (i'm a zoomer) and I have a programming class where we must group and code shit. What I find funny is how all of my 4 group partners, first, don't know how to code for shit, which is strange given that this is not the first programming class of the career. Second, not only they use chagpt for everything (not even claude) but when they get a solution they don't understand and I propse something better, they will still pick the chatgpt solution. I also don't understand half the libraries chatgpt imports, so it's basically impossible to program with them and contribute.
>>108411290Basically, AI is allowing no-coders to interact with can-coders who are miserable having to deal with their retardation.Coders using AI with coders is generally fine as long as everyone is still skilled. Coders using AI to slam out a fast private project is fine too. Its when dumbass vibecoder retards come in, let the AI do everything including thinking for them, and then foists their garbage onto can-coders when it really fucking sucks.
>>108400196No, I don't really expect any kind of progress from now on that is not AI related.Why making, for instance, a replacement of C that is faster and works better when humans won't even use it and it would be much more profitable and quick to just make AIs smarter so they can optimize code better? Not to mention that if you do sonething new, AIs won't have examples from where to eork therefore they won't be good.I feel like this is the last step of the computer tech world, we are in the end game where you have unlocked everything and there's no more content.
>>108408522What repos have been shoved with spam?
>>108399999Witnessed
>>108400647If you're not using AI to churn out code for your job you're an idiot.If you're using it on your own projects you're also an idiot.
>>108400647The reality is that employers will eventually “measure” productivity by how much developers prompt. Using Claude was fun in the first few months, but it’s going to feel pretty depressing knowing that managers can easily prompt summaries of how their teams are working.
>>108400530Me too. I'll do it by feeding the code through all the AIs and have them argue about how to make it better.Then I'll manually type out the answer the AIs came up with and say that it was hand-coded.
>>108411651you are trans
>>108399922So much productivity and yet no product
>>108411290>What I find funny is how all of my 4 group partners, first, don't know how to code for shit, which is strange given that this is not the first programming class of the career.This has been going on well before AI. FizzBuzz used to be an interview question to weed out people who couldn't program, that included people who had graduated with a CS degree. I don't know how they did it, but they managed to get through CS without learning to program.
Real. I made my own midi keyboard with Gemini. If I didn't use AI it would take me 10 years to do so. I'm planning to add knobs in the future.
>>108399922That's just like measuring an aircraft's production complexity purely by weight.
>>108399922>more commits: more productivityAre you dead between the ears, street shitter?
