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Are people actually serious about switching to Linux in TYOOL 2026? Is Windows 11 really that bad? I remember hearing people say this with Vista and Windows 8 but they all stuck around to use Windows 10.
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>>108403818
>Are people actually serious about switching to Linux in TYOOL 2026?
Yes, I already have.
>Is Windows 11 really that bad?
No, it's far worse than anyone could have imagined.
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>>108403818
no that was a meme when windows 11 was new. i know a few people that said they would always stay on windows 10 or switch to linux. those people are using windows 11 now
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>>108403855
Those aren't people. Those are cucks.
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>>108403818
I dual boot Ubuntu 24.04 and Win11 with a local user. I've been using Linux since around 1999. Linux has been better than Windows since Ubuntu 4.10 and it still is. Howeverm'st, I am becoming concerned. Windows has only gotten worse since Win7, but Linux is also backsliding. Every new version of Gnome is worse. Sound recording is still all kinds of fucked up. We need more OSS devs without serious mental health issues. Imagine a distro where contributors have to sign a statement swearing they're not on SSRIs or HRT.
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brother windows 10 was that bad. I hated using it compared to windows 7 and I took my sweet time swapping from it because even with how bad it was I didn't want to leave the only thing I knew. I'm glad I finally swapped though.
Also they didn't "all" stick around, windows does bleed users most transitions, it just typically isn't anything you could describe as a hemorrhage.
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>>108403818
yes, I finally went from 10 to arch back in november
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>>108403818
I've been using linux for about a week now and i couldn't be happier with my os
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Normies will never fucking use Linux you fags are delusional.
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I'n switching from Linux to BSD
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>>108403818
I'll switch to Linux when they finally give Clip Studio support there. That's the real last thing stopping me from switching, I fucking hate windows so much it's unreal.
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>>108404225
>jumping straight to gentoo from windows
ishygddt
post make.conf if you want me to believe you
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>>108404285
Based, I'm doing the same, fuck Red Hat.
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>>108404285
>>108404348
Which BSD?
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i never minded w11. im ok with linux too. i even like freebsd. the only os i really dislike is macos.

i will be switching from windows to ubuntu permanently soon though. just waiting for this LTS in april.

why? because i can see that w12 is actually, in a non-/g/-meme way, going to be completely pozzed with AI from start to finish. ubuntu is almost as comfy as windows and won’t have all that shit, so its an ez switch, and im already used to linux from my job. i know you guys dont like snaps but id really rather just get a distro that will werk OOTB

thank you for reading my reddit post
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>>108403818
all i'll say is that windows 11 won't ever touch my shit at home... my thinkpad at work can stay poisoned for now
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>>108404343
i've seen a few wintards finish it with a virtual machine. seems plausible to me
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>>108403818
Windows is just exhausting to deal with, and it's getting worse every year.
Linux it takes some work to learn how to deal with it, but once you figure it out you don't need to turn off telemetry and copepilot and randomly having all your documents uploaded to oneDrive.
And now that Proton works for like 90% of all games ever released? It's a no-brainer to switch, unless you do CAD or play competitive online shooters or whatever
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>>108403818
Well, it depends, if you are antiracist, then I think that Windows is really great and you should absolutely trust Windows and Microsoft.

If, on the other hand, you are a racist, you might be interested in controlling your hardware and keeping the government's nose out of your business, with Linux.
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>>108403818
Switched my personal PCs over to it in the same week my workplace upgraded to w11
The UI alone is a massive downgrade from 10, then there's the settings menu, the fact that you have to click twice to get into an actually useful RMB menu
>You can turn it all off!
Or I can switch to an OS that never had that in the first place
The most popular risers atm are the windowslike experiences and all of them are like XP or 7, none of them are like w11
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>>108403818
Put a windows theme on the rat DE then
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>>108404750
>thunar
>instead of dolphin
so the single best file explorer is 30 seconds away but you chose to go with a pile of shit that's worse than either winblows or macos has?
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>>108404760
Krash DE promoting macos
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>>108403818
I want to do it but because I want to learn how to use linux, but I cant because my gpu is old and fucked and gives me a really bad performance while using linux that it doesnt happen on windows

I'll probably end up dualbooting, I play crap with anticheat and im not stupid enough to not play what I want because OS limitations
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>>108403818
I switched 5 years ago.

If you're on /g/ have a bit of common sense, don't play games with anti cheat and are fed up with windows... then Linux can probably work for you.

Oh if you're on Nvidia though it'll be jank. I've tried it twice in the past 3 years. Things work but there was jank. While the closed source driver remains basically the only option it'll stay that way.
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>>108404225
i kneel
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>>108404225
>switched to gentoo a week ago
Shouldn't take too much longer to finish compiling everything
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>>108404670
>Linux it takes some work to learn how to deal with it, but once you figure it out you don't need to turn off telemetry and copepilot and randomly having all your documents uploaded to oneDrive.
I switched to Linux when the "10 is kill" announcement came and this is how I feel about it. Took a lot of reading to wrap my head around everything but now that I understand it's all much easier to understand. Linux is very transparent and does what you tell it to do, even digging into the guts of the system is easier. Trying to do anything advanced on 10 felt like wrestling eldritch shapeshifting demons and 11 is apparently much worse with this, and the group policy editor is the eldritch demons' unholy book inscribed in esoteric runes that will drive you to madness.
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>>108404919
>Oh if you're on Nvidia though it'll be jank
in what way? you can't overclock if you're on wayland (fucking pile of trash that it is) and there's autism involved if you want to spin up VMs but everything else Just Works (tm)
I had zero issues with 3060 and then 4070 for 3+ years now
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>>108403818
Getting normalfags onto GNU/Linux only encourages corpos to attempt taking control of it (see: RedHat). I actively refuse to recommend it to anyone who isn't willing to sacrifice convenience for FOSS. Most won't switch anyway because all they know how to do is whine and accept eating shit in the end.
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>>108403818
I'm too dumb for Linux.
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>>108403818
I don't think Linux will ever take over as the dominant usage share of desktops, but it certainly can compete for second place with macOS in the future, say in like 20-30 years. I personally moved to Fedora Workstation this month as a challenge for this spring to put myself out of my comfort zone and it's been going pretty decent. There's little quirks and issues, but for the most part my hardware just werks, and I've found decent or even superior replacements for most software I used on windows, while some stuff like JDownloader, qBittorrent, Brave work on Linux too and are very easy to grab from flathub and have no annoying windows installers or manual updating. There's also no need for driver hunting, everything is grabbed by fedora, it even updates your firmware, shit's so convenient. The cons are currently
>Worse text rendering in browsers and electron apps
>Haven't figured out hdr-passthrough in MPC-HC equivalent for linux yet, will see if it's doable or how easy it is to do it
>FOSS and libre is fun, and I like that fedora ships only foss/libre software but there's some little problems with that like having to use flatpaks and sometimes not getting the best performance in full screen long videos on sites when going through play bar and thumbnails
>Modding vidya is probably more difficult

Pro is how easy it is to set it up and have peace of mind, there's like 3 toggles that handle practically everything privacy/security and diagnostic/telemetry data related, fedora comes with firewalld, secure boot, zram, selinux everything preconfigured. There's no brown people in every single program like in windows settings, control panel, media player, onedrive, there's no political flags in taskbar and news shitting up my taskbar widgets, and also magically enough alt tabbing out of vidya is less likely to stunlock my entire PC like on windows, or going into a lock screen while downloading stuff over night is less likely to make the screen unresponsive.
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>>108403818
>Is Windows 11 really that bad?
They removed Wordpad, only to turn Notepad into a worse version of Wordpad. Then shoehorned copilot into it which itself was vibecoded and caused a RCE vulnerability that can get you hacked by simply opening the wrong text files.
>>108404547
FreeBSD is the only one that "works"
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>>108405589
>Worse text rendering in browsers and electron apps
If your distro has a package for croscore-fonts install that. ik it exists in Debian, was created by Google to have identical text rendering to Windows.
>Haven't figured out hdr-passthrough in MPC-HC equivalent for linux yet, will see if it's doable or how easy it is to do it
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>>108404760
>dolphin
that qt crap that is slow and constantly corrupts your files? you krash fags are delusional.
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>>108406278
source nigga?
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>>108404343
ig bro
# These settings were set by the catalyst build script that automatically
# built this stage.
# Please consult /usr/share/portage/config/make.conf.example for a more
# detailed example.
COMMON_FLAGS="-march=native -O2 -pipe"
CFLAGS="${COMMON_FLAGS}"
CXXFLAGS="${COMMON_FLAGS}"
FCFLAGS="${COMMON_FLAGS}"
FFLAGS="${COMMON_FLAGS}"
RUSTFLAGS="${RUSTFLAGS} -C target-cpu=native"
# NOTE: This stage was built with the bindist USE flag enabled
MAKEOPTS="-j12 -l13"

USE="dist-kernel wayland kde cuda"

ACCEPT_LICENSE="-* @FREE @BINARY-REDISTRIBUTABLE"

# This sets the language of build output to English.
# Please keep this setting intact when reporting bugs.
LC_MESSAGES=C.UTF-8

GENTOO_MIRRORS="yeah let me just triangulate my locationxd"


>>108405351
compiling kde was the worst one
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>>108405451
It varies from person to person, some have no issues others have issues. I was on Fedora, latest version at the time (2025) trialling a 5070 ti. I used flatpaks for most things to avoid Fedoras codec bs.

For me it was this stuff:
Webms played poor quality with green bars in vlc

Kvm switch caused black screen issue where 1 monitor would never come back online again afterwards

Vulkan Shader compilation took fucking ages on tlou part 1 (30 mins still barely halfway)

Steam big picture was laggy

I also tried a 4070 Super in 2024 and had different issues but still issues.
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>>108407007
I was compiling KDE 3 on a Via Epia single core CPU in 2004. I am sure you can manage with your 12 threads.
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>I remember hearing people say this with Vista and Windows 8 but they all stuck around to use Windows 10

Never did Vista. XP then 7 and left MS in the dust late in '20 for Ubuntu then Debian. No regrets. Not one. I'm no "Super-user" dev type either. GUI mostly, terminal is for updates, status checks and occasional copypasta project that someone else did all the thinking.
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>>108403818
holy rat eyes
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>>108403846
FPBP exactly my thoughts.
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My Windows 7 computer died, so I built a new one after 15 years with the same one, and it currently has Linux Mint. However, if I get a job that requires Windows, I might switch to Windows 11 anyway, because my old games don't work.
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I've been using macOS for work and Linux for gaming since 2022.
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>>108403818
I switched to Linux when windows 10 came out. As soon as they made the OS spyware, I knew it was time to jump ship. I've only used linux since.
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>>108407886
it would be cool if rats were cute pets and not wretched vermin that spread disease and eat my grain
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>>108403818
>Are people actually serious about switching to Linux in TYOOL 2026?
yes, i'm looking at thinkpad x1 carbons.
>Is macOS really that bad?
macOS 26 with its liquid ass is really that bad.
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>>108403818
When support for win 10 ended i bought 500GB ssd for my 10 years old piece of shit antique PC, installed mint and never looked back. I just use it to shitpost on mongolian basket weaving forum, watch some youtube, play minekampf and maybe one indie game from steam, it does everything I need and dont run 367 things in the background with copilot on top of that. And yes win 11 is worse than dogshit I have to deal with it at work
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I'm using Fedora as my main OS now, on my gaming PC, and I can use it for generative AI furry porn so I see no reason why I should ever go back to Windows.
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>>108403818
There is 100% more movement than ever before.

But the motivation is entirely different from when win8/vista launched, back then application compatibility was a big issue, it was simply impossible to run many applications on a linux desktop , and vista wasn't actually bad if you had enough ram and the proper drivers. nothing wrong with win8 other than the UI basically.

win11 on the other hand is regularly receiving some pretty serious bugs, not minor annoyances, but real " my computer doesn't work" kind of shit. as well, the ability to run windows appllcations on desktop linux has improved tremendously, I would say most applications work now.

I would say that while number of users on windows and mac still account for 95-99% of pc users, we've definitely reached a point where an upward trajectory has been established, and the user base is growing, rather than remaining the same or shrinking.
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>>108403818
I'm just taking all personal computing to an offline lan all my stuff, all my media,, Windows XP, Windows 7, Windows 10, nothing that requires internet connectivity or activation, SUSE, cp/m, spectrum next, mame, xbox 360, PS2, RAID boxes. Zero connectivity. It's far far better, no logons, everything just works, no security bugs, no updates, just get a peak tuned install and use it. The internet is becomingnot personal computing but cloud portar spyware and adware subscibe remote compyting and storage, own nothing pay twice cancer and AI is making it worse just as the corporates and givernments have. Windows 11 is bad as steam OS is because they are just cloud portal clients, they are not personal computing or gaming device operating systems as at all any more than a cable TV box was.

And consider this, the first computer I ever owned, it did not have a logon, it booted and ran, it did not have ANY form of network connectivity and there were no updates, no firewalls, no anti virus, no spyware, no ads no shit. Windows 11 BY DESIGN is intended to be a cloud portal client using a corporate provided and remotely authenticated logon using remote storage and computing billed by the month. Can you bend it to make it work as a personal computing operating system, some what, you can make it somewhat liek windows 10 which was already becoming shit. But you know what you can have a couple of XP and win 7 and 10 boxes on a LAN and just play all their software libraries, all their wonderful games and applications, you don;t need this shit. There is zero reason to ever expose any of your personal data to the internet .or use what by definition have to be slower less secure and less private stotage and computing subsciption services. Spotify and google music is NOT better than having 100,000 MP3s. Because AI will destoy much of what is left (see shit like wikipedia, comments sections, this place etc etc) what's left? Offline LAN! Now!
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>>108409950
all linux, mac and widows current day 'operating systems' assume internet connectibity and nearly everything they do is cloud portal shit whether linx repositories, steam os, win 11 or walled garden mac rubbish. It is all equally shit, exploited and garbage as is the sass and subscriptions used on them
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>>108403818
I was until systemd took a big fat shit on everyone and now I have to dristro hop to some literally who distro.
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>>108410119
Cool, didn't ask.
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>>108410149
Well why are you advocating for what is a different flavor of shit as if it matters then?
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>>108407338
Huh. I thought all the moaning was people on distros aimed at old clunkers with 2gb ram and 256mb vram like debian or mint, which people still install on good hardware for some reason.

I switched to fedora ~15 months ago and rtx 4070 has been flawless for me, not a single issue.
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>>108403818
Microslop has been making Windows worse for a while, and it's gotten to the point where the normies are doing (a little) more than just grumbling. No clue if people are really switching to Linux, I started using it in the late 90s or early 2000s, can't remember the exact year.
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im brown and cucked



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