This is what you will have to do if you want to sideload on Android from now on. Why is this allowed?Step 1: Enable Developer Mode No more quick toggles. You’ll need to manually enable developer options first. Step 2: Confirm you’re not being coercedAndroid will explicitly ask if someone is guiding you through disabling protections on your device as a direct response to scam tactics.Step 3: Restart your phoneThis cuts off active calls, remote access, or screen-sharing sessionsStep 4: Wait 24 hours Yes, really. There’s a mandatory one-day waiting period before you can proceed and sideload an app from an unverified developer. Google calls it a “protective waiting period.” Step 5: Re-authenticate After the one-day wait, you’ll need biometric authentication or your PIN to confirm it’s really you. “Scammers rely on manufactured urgency, so this breaks their spell and gives you time to think,” Google notes in its blog. Step 6: Finally, install the app Only then can you sideload. Even after all this, Android will still show a warning that the app is from an unverified developer, but at that point, you can tap “Install anyway.”
>>108408893>Why is this allowed?Because this sounded absurd even a year ago. So it might be outruled in five more years.
>>108408893>Why is this allowed?(You) let it happen and continue to let it happen.
sorry, again, why is it relevant? i mean its already known those are spy devices with a corporate hold on them, its like youre revolting against apple policies.. just dont invest yourself into them
>>108408893>Why is this allowed?Cool it with the antisemitism.
You know what, I kinda get it. There's no telling how many millions of Android phones out there are responsible for helping botnets/call spoofing all because some dumb fuck is randomly installing APKs from the gutter part of the internet.On a related note, maybe this will give momentum to x86 UMPCs to become cheaper as their popularity grows because autists will have panic attacks waiting 24 hours to install their pirated apps.It might actually end up being mutually beneficial for everyone involved desu.
>>108408893where are all the shills who defended this when google announced ithands up
It's not terrible.In the end you can make the ability to install unverified apps permanent.
>>108408893I'm now making a public request for a small formfactor, secure, GOOGLE-free Android flip phone, pre-unrooted, with a good camera equipped with an optical zoom, and only decent specs. 3.5mm headphone jack, quick swappable battery and SD card slot highly recommended.
you guys are using the newest goy devices? i still use a 12 year old android tablet that doesn't even have working tls anymore
>>108409120>In the end you can make the ability to install unverified apps permanent.just like you can right now, without the humiliation ritual?
>>108409325Yes, though the ease at which you can do it now is the problem with scammers.
>>108409256Lucky you, it still works, planned obsolescence (created by the Epstein class) has me trapped in the endless cycle of buying the latest in goy devices such as the ipear version 15.7 with the latest wireless cuckold feature enabled out the box.
>>108409120>In the end you can make the ability to install unverified apps permanent.for nowanybody who isn't retard knows that they will remove that very soon
I'll buy a phone with an unlockable bootloader install aosp rom with wait period disabled and continue on with life while normies continue gobbling shit same as it ever was
>>108409334not my problem
>>108408893How common is it for Jeet Scam Centers to scam you on android anyway? Don't they all use Windows?Why is it the language framed as a "we're protecting you from bad actors" what bad actors are asking their granny victims to install apk's
>>108409475Stop asking questions, chud. Say 'thank you' to the nice Google man for protecting you from the bad stuff.
You should have bought a Firefox phone when they existed.
>>108409369Perhaps.
So apparently adb will be allowed instantly, what’s stopping malware developers or scammers from making some desktop program that bundles their malware apk, adb and some shitty UI before telling their victims that they have to connect their phones to their computers and run their program to verify their device or some bs?
>>108408893Because there isn't a real free software alternative, and a large amount of the population is happy with their iPhones that are even more locked down. Before someone says that you can use something like postmarketOS or mobian, you can't run most banking apps in waydroid, and most banks shove that shit down your throat now. There's also very limited app support for other uses, aside from running things in waydroid. Sure I can install things natively, but they look like utter dogshite since they weren't optimized for phones.
>>108409120permanently until they change it again
>>108409520You still need to enable developer mode for that as well.It's adding more steps (and people with computers, lol).
Because we live in hell. The world ended in 2012 like the mayans said and we are in hell. Everything sucks, everything continues to suck, and nobody does a single fucking thing to make better. Nothing escapes. Every last little fucking thing has to be ruined. Everything. And nobody will stop it. And they will get away with it every single time.
>>108408949How?
>>108409154Holy shit, it's official! I'm on the case!
>to make sure no one is coaching you into turning off your securityPretending like this is about protecting users. Coming from the same company that sells current user location data to the feds.
When was the last time you retards even sideloaded an app. There's just no point anymore.
>>108409751>t. doesn't use fdroid for the actually good apps that aren't filled with spy and adware
>>108408893>come back after the 24-hour waithahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAandjeets keep fucking losing lmfaoooooooo what will they cope about now? find out in the next episode of dragon poo z
>>108409751>When was the last time you retards even sideloaded an app.My own apps.
>>108409830how easy is it to sideload on iphone i don't know much about itdo you have to wait a day in the cuck chair like you apparently will have to do on android?
>>108409849no idea about the relatively new EU law thing, so maybe that works differently, but in the "not new" area:1. You install a "profile" in 1 click (more or less akin to installing a self-signed certificate)2. Now you can immediately install the chink altstore's appswouldn't recommend it unless you really trust the publisher, but that's another topic
>>108408893That's annoying but I can't see how I can punish this because the only alternative is iPhone which is completely locked down. Not even worth getting worked up about this stuff anymore.Who the fuck would pick the 7 days option though, so they can be forced to wait 24 hours again the next time?
>>108409873cont. & found the docs: https://support.apple.com/guide/deployment/intro-to-device-management-profiles-depc0aadd3fe/webapparently if you have enabled schizo mode on your phone and are in an "unfamiliar location" it can require a 1h wait
>>108409873>>108409901that does seem easier
>>108408893Since there are two threads about sideloading, I'll copy pasta my message from the other thread...GOOD NEWSBuild files for AOSP on Sony Xperia 10 VII landed yesterdayhttps://github.com/sonyxperiadev/device-sony-pdx257This may be your last chance to own a phone with:a microsd card slota 3.5 mm headphone jackno hole punch or notchand run AOSP that you built from source yourself. No sideload blocks. No age check bullshit.
The only app I have in my phone that I wasn't forced to install is Shadow Fight 2
>>108408893Reasonable, except for the 24 hour waiting period. I would hope that using adb, you can bypass this.Normies are fucking retarded and will do everything the Indian on the phone tells them.>MAAM, Click "I am not being the guided through the process maam, it is very needful, even though I am guiding you, mam, I do not count okay, so it is very needful that you do not listen to the red text and just click "I am not being guided", do as I tell you mam"
>>108408893use case of sideloading?
>>108409008this kills alternative app stores forever because normalfags will no longer be able to be "coached" by tutorials or friends and family to use fdroid or any other non-30% app repo.
>>108409520First, Windows PC comes with no android driver, and Windows Update won't provide it neitherSecond, USB-C chink cable usually isn't a data cable
Seems reasonable for a one time thing you do when you buy a new phone for the benefit of having Revanced installed
>>108408893On one hand I'm glad we can still do it... on the other this feels like a slope here we'll eventually not be able to do it at all.
Seems reasonable enough. I don't see whats so bad about this. ADB is still there if I need to install something right then. One thing that'd be nice though is if you could bypass the 24h with an adb command.
>>108408893>yes, someone is guiding me>Tom's hardware
>>108409417Yes it is, you're posting itt for a reason.
>>108411175>>108411402holy shit fuck off shills>I don't mind waiting for the cuck timer, it's a reasonable price to pay :)
>>108408893humiliation ritual
>>108408893It should have been in the developer options in the first place. Just put it in there and have a toggle to turn it on. It's retarded anyways considering it's my hardware and what I install on it is my business.
>>108409751Adaway is not allowed on the play store for some mysterious reason. Wonder what company could be upset with the idea of a system level adblocker.
>>108410235I saw those Indian scam videos on YouTube. They keep doing it because it works.
>>108410931I would never advice my normalfag friends or family to use fdroid anyways that's just asking for trouble and to be their dedicated IT helpdesk.
>>108409751All good emulators are sideloaded because of play store kikery
>>108408893Thanks again, India/Pakistan. Very nice.
>>108412158But think of the brain damaged retards who think the poo in the loo on the other end of the phone is actually from Google or MS and everything will be fixed if you install the apps he wants and give him gift cards.
>>108412158This is what's getting on my nerves. It's my phone and I'll sideload newpipe if I want to, cry if I want to, die if I want to, eat pie if I want to. Who told googjeet and microjeet that installing their os transfers ownership to them?
>>108412195sure, but it kills other potential normalfag friendly app stores too.
>>108412158Except that disabling developer options flips every option back to the default and my banking app refuses to run with that on
I will add age verification to android too
Librem 5 is actually starting to look pretty good about now.
Installing apps outside of the play store without having to follow this process is still possible if you "verify" yourself/your apk keys.And nothing stops indian scammers to just verify themselves. The $25 fee is pocket change compared to the money they steal. And they can simply use the credentials of one of their low-payed workers or even scam victims. Boom: victims can still easily install their malware. And might be even more trusting now, since Google tells them it's verified and safe.
>>108409751yo this nut isn't using newpipe LMAO
>>108412510>Except that disabling developer options flips every option back to the defaultNot all of them, and it varies a bit from device to device.
>>108409751100% because I don't even have Play Store or a Google account.
>>108411012which is why in 2028 google will stop allowing installing unsigned apks. for your safety. google cares.
>>108408893I actually agree on everything except step 4.Step 4 is excessive, it gets too much in the way, especially power users.Too many tards are getting redeemed, their phones compromised means higher costs for everyone else as companies have to increase their digital security expenditures.>>108409154I'll make the logo.>>108409520Anon most normies don't have computers now. We are not in 2006 anymore.>>108409849>>108409873>>108409901For the users is relatively easy. For developers is pretty much impossible. That is why there are basically no solid app distributions outside the Apple app store.>>108409751Sideloading isn't real, it's called installing.Basically every app on my phone is installed via the developer source. Here's my list: AuroraStore, Aves, Binaryeye, Bitwarden, Breezy weather, Fossify calendar, Comaps, Gcam services provider, HeliBoard, Joplin, KurobaEx, Localsend, Obtainium, Orbot, Readyou, Fossify voice recorder, Signal, Steam, Thunderbird, Tor, Tubular, Wikipedia.
Some people just literally do not read the words on the screen and do not understand that the words mean something. These people are so stupid we HAVE to let them get scammed because we cannot protect everyone. Have fair warnings for people who can read, and if you can't figure out that having an indian tell you to press the "Do not do this if an indian is telling you to do this" button is not a good idea then we have to just let them get scammed.
>>108412931Nobody is getting redeemed on Android what scammers are asking their victims to install apks on their phones? it makes no sensedo not engage with this "but it will help against scammers "framing when it's clearly disingenuous and just an excuseexact same strategy as the "but think of the children!!!!" cop-out they always use when personal liberties get restricted
>>108412940You have no idea.Think of the average Joe, now keep in mind that 50% of the people are dumber than that.Even if 5% of the stupid ones gets redeemed, it's still a huge number of people with compromised devices.You don't fall for it because you are not stupid. You can't outgrow stupidity the same as with age, some people are just dumb and you can't do anything about it.We require so many obvious labels, warnings, failsafes and restrictions because of stupid people.
