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Has this systemd debacle shaken your trust and belief in open source? Do you know finally realize that it was all just a lie, and the so-called community was just a big-corpo larp?

>Don’t worry about systemD, it’s just the tip.
>Rust in the kernel
>Forced wayland
>Age checks in systemd

How much more can you take? If you’re going to be corpo, why not go full-bore and use windows. If you’re going to resist, then I guess it’s BSD?
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>>108417262
troonix used to be good, then soistemd came and it was still good after that, even though people were legitimately upset (they were called schizos and shunned), linux only had one major issue, if we are talking about the kernel, i don't remember something to do with usbs, today it's fucking garbage, worse than microshit, you will see it get even worse soon with rust trannies and retarded mindraped cuck devs acquiescing to every big tech demand like age verification, i went back to windows 7 and sadly windows 10
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Linux is just a temporary stopgap while the GNU system's proper kernel is developed. The death of Linux will actually spur on the development of a truly free operating system.
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>>108417262
It's over bros. You can have my 2003 thinkpad.
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>>108417262
weak bait and obviously written by an llm
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>>108417262
No, I'll just ise different open source software.
That's the great thing about it, there's a miltitude of different projects with different values.
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>>108417262
There are several distros out there right now you can download/install that doesn't have systemd, I am not worried about systemd

Systemd can be abandoned by all distros as easily as they picked it up
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>>108417543
GNU/Hurd been in development longer than Linux and it still isn't ready for prime time, if it hasn't been picked up by now I doubt it ever will and remain a niche item for who knows what, educational purposes maybe
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>>108417564
Only the OP image is AI.
>>108417543
I have more faith in Year of the FreeBSD desktop than Herd.
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>>108417766
Slow and steady. Slow and steady.
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>>108417262
It just made me hate Microsoft even more, frog friend.
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>>108417262
> Has this systemd debacle shaken your trust and belief in open source?
No. It's just a bit over-engineered but the idea itself is not bad.

> Do you know finally realize that it was all just a lie, and the so-called community was just a big-corpo larp?
You can still do whatever you want so I don't see how that's true.

> How much more can you take? If you’re going to be corpo, why not go full-bore and use windows.
Windows is a much worse experience.

> If you’re going to resist, then I guess it’s BSD?
Not as good. BSD had a chance a long time ago but was defeated. Now it's okay for servers and that's it.
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>>108417262
I'm not a super active /g/ enthusiast so fill me in if I'm wrong but:

>Rust in the kernel
And that's bad because?
>Forced wayland
How?
>Age checks in systemd
Is anyone forcing you to enter anything into it tho? Isn't this just so that people have the option to comply with the law if they want/need to? How does it actually impact anyone who simply declines to answer? If it still bothers you so much there's distros that you can use without systemd.
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>>108417262
>Has this systemd debacle shaken your trust and belief in open source?
No I'll just remove it in a fork and dare California to sue me.
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>>108417865
At its current state the systemd change is a nothingburger but people are worried it will lead to actual bad stuff like requiring identity verification to prove your age but it's pointless to worry about what might be since as soon as something like that happens you can hop on another distro.
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>>108417865
>And that's bad because?
Because Rust is a horrible language, and it's being used to execute a hostile takeover.
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>>108417901
How?
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>>108417901
>cos it's just bad n muh trannies n shieet
This is literally all I hear on /g/ when someone mentions Rust. How is it actually bad?
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>>108417962
How is it actually good? NTA
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I dont care about your gay license wankery or your stupid wannabe secret club.
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>>108417999
I'm not saying it's anything. I just don't understand why people (mainly chuds) hate it.
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>>108417262
I wish i could just use Windows 7.
But everything is shit.
Linux is less shit and allow you to customize the windows but it's still shit.
>but OS-
The worst of em, everytime i touch that shit, i get angrier.
If i ever get forced to use OSX for a year, i will turn into AM
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>>108417865
>Is anyone forcing you to enter anything into it
the same guy who included the field on system it also included the os prompting for it on arch and ubuntu
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>>108417543
ReactOS will get a stable release before GNU/Hurd
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>>108417262
>If you’re going to be corpo, why not go full-bore and use windows
with al due respect: you are a fucking retard to imply that kind of shit, what the actual fuck.
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>>108417350
>worse than microshit
take your meds, you fucking idiot
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>>108418327
Bro crashing out, fr fr.
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>>108417543
turd is never coming
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>>108418327
>>108418323
You seethe about Microsoft but you probably don't even have a good reason for it. It's just software, it either helps you perform a task or it doesn't.
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>>108417543
We already have Linux-libre for the GNU system. And maybe any of the BSD kernels, if deblobbed properly.
GNU's own kernel won't be ready for a long time. While Debian GNU/Hurd can already play some games, it's mainly board games and some simple SDL classics.
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>>108417262
My belief in open source has waned a long time ago. I still use Linux because Windows as an OS is worse and I don't need any of the exclusive software in my daily life so it's the best choice for me from a purely practical perspective.
Anyway the root of the problem isn't systemd, it's the age verification laws that all western "democracies" are simultaneously pushing for. You can install whatever niche distro you want or switch to another OS entirely, but 5 or so years from now, you're just not going to be able to browse most of the internet without OS-provided age assurance.
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>>108417262
No. The whole point is that you have the freedom to run this software without these changes. And there will always be people that redistribute these versions.

More choices = good. Forks are great. They don't have the power to dictate the software you run, only you do.
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do you morons not understand that the age check is just a drop down menu? Nobody checks or verifies the info. There is no server receiving that data and you don't need Internet to verify your age
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>>108418873
Yet.
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>>108418883
Do you have a steam account?
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>>108418873
If it's useless why merge so fast and shutdown any discussion? Why not use parental controls that already exist? Why not be an actual parent? Nobody here is stupid to know how stuff like this is. First is age then it's your ID or face and then a server to collect. Accept this shit now and you can't go back after.
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>>108418873
why even have it then
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>>108417262
systemd was a huge mistake that should have been shut down
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>>108418645
Not him, but how is "Microsoft Windows sucks to use" not a valid reason to avoid using it?
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>>108418011
>lets rewrite code in this astroturfed language just because, OK?
Getting ahead of yourself. The rust faggots are the ones who should explain themselves. Which they still haven't.
Also Linus is a faggot for enforcing it.
Worst fucking leadership ever.
>Linux Torvalds, the guy made Linux kernel and also spearheaded it into the ground
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>>108417262
My trust and belief in open source evaporated 4 years ago when I switched back to Windows 7 and realized that freetards will never surpass this perfection.
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>>108417543
Stallman too has lost it and just floods his page with half blind political commentary about non-issues relating to free software and refuses to say anything negative relating to Commiefornia.
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>>108417262
We warned you about systemd for ages, yet you did not listen.
Everyone on /g/ deserve what is coming, for this is what you are worth; nothing.
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>>108420758
it's all a larp anyway, leftists (the people that control open source) will always be useful idiots for authoritarians so the whole thing was doomed from the start
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>>108417262
Just fork systemd into SystemDeezNutsLibre and remove the DOB field.
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>>108417809
Finally! the beginning of the death of systemd! I hope that guy implements more annoying shit like that to drive people away from systemd
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>>108420860
We already have something far more superior to systemd and it's called s6, unfortunately very few people know about it.
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>>108417262
>>Don’t worry about systemD, it’s just the tip.
you can just not use it
theres openrc, runit, sysv, dinit, d6
>>Rust in the kernel
its just for drivers, if your hardware doesnt need any of those, just compile the kernel without it
>>Forced wayland
its a protocol and has more usable implementations than X11 (which only has xorg)
you can use X still, no ones stopping you, its also trivial to run wayland programs on x
>>Age checks in systemd
dont use it
linux is extremely modular as an OS, you can choose stuff, you can even have a whole system without GNU (like alpine)
stop being such a bitch
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>>108417262
I just upgraded my arch and this systemd birthday shit got on my machine. I feel violated. How do we run arch without systemd?
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>>108421935
>X11 only has xorg
False, there's xlibre and xenocara
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>>108417262
> Has this systemd debacle shaken your trust and belief in open source?

No. It is O P E N S O U R C E, retard.
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>>108417262
Lol no. I haven't been using systemd pretty much since fedora switched to it (that's why I stopped using Fedora.) The fact that I can just ignore this stupidity *strengthens* my faith in open source.
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>>108421954
https://artixlinux.org/
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>shaken your trust and belief in open source?
The people that actually cared are already off systemd, wayland, GNOME 3, etc. or never migrated to it. It's just a bunch of newfags getting a taste of their first major controversy. Personally I'm on Fedora because I'm in the Linus camp not the Stallman camp. I just want it to work and stay up to date.
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>>108421935
>>Age checks in systemd
> dont use it
Exactly. We all will watch YouTube without using the age field just like we watch Netflix without DRM
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>>108417262
I can't tell if the solution is ted-pill innawoods possibly ending at Waco or terry-pill run 'em over and end up suicided on train tracks. Both have their appeal, but either way, I don't think I'm MK Ultra'ed enough for this shit.
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>>108418782
>without OS-provided age assurance.
ID assurance*
you really think they care about the age?
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>>108422406
I've never watched Netflix. I've watched a lot of Netflix shit though.
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>>108417262
Why would that change anything? I can remove it from the source code. Microslop and Crapple users cannot.



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