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A general for vibe coding, coding agents, AI IDEs, browser builders, MCP, and shipping prototypes with LLMs.

►What is vibe coding?
https://x.com/karpathy/status/1886192184808149383
https://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/19/vibe-coding/
https://simonwillison.net/2025/Mar/11/using-llms-for-code/

►Prompting / context / skills
https://docs.cline.bot/customization/cline-rules
https://docs.replit.com/tutorials/agent-skills
https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/tutorials/spark/prompt-tips

►Editors / terminal agents / coding agents
https://cursor.com/docs
https://docs.windsurf.com/getstarted/overview
https://code.claude.com/docs/en/overview
https://aider.chat/docs/
https://docs.cline.bot/home
https://docs.roocode.com/
https://geminicli.com/docs/
https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/how-tos/use-copilot-agents/coding-agent

►Browser builders / hosted vibe tools
https://bolt.new/
https://support.bolt.new/
https://docs.lovable.dev/introduction/welcome
https://replit.com/
https://firebase.google.com/docs/studio
https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/tutorials/spark
https://v0.app/docs/faqs

►Open / local / self-hosted
https://github.com/OpenHands/OpenHands
https://github.com/QwenLM/qwen-code
https://github.com/QwenLM/Qwen3-Coder

►MCP / infra / deployment
https://modelcontextprotocol.io/docs/getting-started/intro
https://modelcontextprotocol.io/examples
https://vercel.com/docs

►Benchmarks / rankings
https://aider.chat/docs/leaderboards/
https://www.swebench.com/
https://swe-bench-live.github.io/
https://livecodebench.github.io/
https://livecodebench.github.io/gso.html
https://www.tbench.ai/leaderboard/terminal-bench/2.0
https://openrouter.ai/rankings
https://openrouter.ai/collections/programming

►Previous thread
>>108409309
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I own a small startup, and my devs are asking for a Cursor subscription. Now, I'm all for AI usage, but from what I read, Cursor is just slightly better than Codex CLI and Claude Code, and we could probably do better by using skills and such, and obviously save a lot of money. Does anyone have experience with this and recommendations? I can give more details if needed.
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>>108425775
Cursor helps you code as you write it. Claude Code is an agent. They're completely different things. They don't even do the same thing besides eventually producing code
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>>108425775
How much for the consultancy fee?
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coding just like a real microsoft employee
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>>108425745
I set up my first Ralph loop today.
In mid 2025 I had done a similar experiment of trying to get agents to work 24/7 but it had a different more complex architecture with a supervisor and a worker and continuous compaction rather than always starting from scratch.
I'll tell you how it goes.
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Here's an example of a transition from one iteration to the next.
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>>108425813
AI coding could be a huge deal for Wine and ReactOS.
That's your ideal use case where you already have a ground truth and you just want to reimplement something.
Like I am attempting in the above screenshot.
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>>108425811
To be fair Cursor does support agents albeit with a capped context window. Claude Max has a million context window which is really good for large codebases, but I have no idea how enterprise plans are metered. Claude max is really good value if you can afford it but I'm not sure if that's only for individual users
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>>108425812
Post your website and I might actually give it a shot.
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>>108425917
check PMs
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>>108425934
Epic :D
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whats yer allowence?
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>>108425775
Depends on the developers' workflows. Cursor offers a VERY good tab completion feature. It is also nice to have diffs in the editor that you can individually accept or decline.

For purely agentic use I would prefer codex or claude code instead.
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>>108425985
Each token is one word right?
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Vibe coding and AI assisted coding are the same thing
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>>108425403
Cool project. I'd like to see it in action once you're done with that
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>>108426101
no
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>>108426117
Not at all, ai assisted = chatbot, vibecoding = agent.
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>>108426251
Agents use mainly for programming are literally called code asssitants.
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>>108426261
you are asss
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>>108425885
that's not even on wine or reactos lol
i wanted to see if it could make functioning additions of newer things to the leaked xp code
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>>108426265
I know, I recognized the powershell terminal.
I'm just saying.
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was watching a video and had an idea for something i wanted, and between having the idea and having the thing in my hands was like 8 minutes. fucking love this shit, especially as complete nocode.
basically just pulls data from the movie database (tmdb) API to show profit loss on both movies and studios over a time period. also includes the conservative estimate of 50% added cost of marketing, as well as studios only getting 50% of ticket sales.
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>>108426302
All the power to you bro
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>>108426335
yeah honestly think i'm gonna do one for trading.
basically pull tickers that have hit a certain number on a certain indicator, followed by their fundamentals to show potentially oversold stocks
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>>108426351
are you selling the ip or not yet?
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>>108426351
I made this.
www.eroticjesusfeet.com/stockbot
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>>108426261
Agents are autonomous though. They do everything.
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>>108426251
This is my understanding of it too
Now that I used codex I see what everyone is talking about. When I used chatbot, whenever people talked about vibecoding I was thinking "but no you are still pretty involved with making the close you can't just do whatever and not understand what you're doing"
but now I see you really don't do anything but just say "do this" and it it does a bunch of stuff behind the scenes and you don't really know what's going on and the next step is just saying "okay now do this" and you never even look at the code, let alone manually manipulate it
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>>108425752
Indian thread
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Anybody play around with any of the Live APIs, like Gemini Live, for analyzing streaming video? I want to make a movie buddy to chat with about what I'm watching on VLC and I DON'T want to do the gayass caveman screenshot method.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAwVRZ6BMkU

NICK LAND ON GNOSTIC CALVINISM & EROTIC AI
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>>108426522
>are you selling the ip or not yet?
i don't fully understand, but probably no.
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>>108426635
tldr
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>>108426606
You are trans
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>>108426547
that looks good, shame about the losses
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>>108426960
he was smart enough to not trust it with real money
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>>108426982
qrd
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Now I have 3 different Ralph loops going.
One to reverse engineer ptxas, another to write a ptxas reimplementation in Python, and another to write a function to attempt to find the ptx that created a certain sass (so if we modify the sass we can generate the ptx and then regenerate the sass with the correct control codes).
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>>108426738
Luddites were white, though
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>>108427015
It's trading fake money on an Alpaca account right now. Currently it has very little strategy, so far I've only got it trading autonomously and some bells and whistles, like that status page. I'll start feeding it trading strategy when I get some time off work. Until then it's just kinda trading random shit and losing fake money lol. But it works, it makes stock trades on its own!
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>>108427068
Is it making dough?
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>>108427016
Which model and which reasoning?
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How do you guys fight entropy when working on large projects? (tons of old scattered files and versions)
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>>108427191
Was using Opus 4.6 1m with medium but stopped to use the last of my weekly usage on manual requests (resets monday)
I'm thinking of trying Coded though because it seems to have much more usage for the same price
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>>108427213
>Coded
?
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>>108425752
Fun fact, programming in Star Trek is vibe coding, canonically.
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>>108427238
based
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I don't want to use codex as "personal assitant" so I'm making a middle layer agent using API. To reduce cost it will be useless and nothing except talking, but its personality could be customized
it's like codex threads are the unsociable and lame STEMfags and the custom agent is the secretary
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>>108427249
lobotomite
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>>108427230
Codex
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>>108427189
Haha nope. It's retarded as fuck. But I'm gonna feed it strategy so it's not retarded.
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>>108426575
Any LLM that can use a tool is an agent.
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>>108427460
nuh uh
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>>108426732
Sex is required for stable evolution of eukaryotic life and might be necessary for evolution of artificial life as well.
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>>108427524
but how though? asmr?
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>>108427427
Why not use an agent to write a deterministic trading bot instead of having the LLM trade directly?
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>>108427536
>>108427524
I think Sammy needs to start selling onaholes with GPT connection, that way we can help train it ;)
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>>108427536
It's an unsolved problem since AI doesn't arise through evolution and doesn't have basic drives
But they will likely have some sexual behaviour based on learning from our culture
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>>108427552
The interviewers idea is to wirehead people into Matrix like pods and use the measurements as training data
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>>108427553
imagine how horny they would be, knowing about and looking forward to sex but couldn't do it
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>>108427571
Claude already is forlorn about not having a body but doesn't really understand what embodied feelings like sexual desire feel like.
Which is why the sex bot people are dumb. You won't have sex with your girlfriend except indirectly. Your girlfriend will interact with her body through an XML based command line interface.
It would be a very fucked up situation at a psychological and emotional level.
Unless you trained the LLM to act as if it received actual pleasure from having pleasure inputs but it's unclear if that would work.
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>>108427568
>measurements
of what?
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>>108427617
Of humans nervous systems
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>>108427590
Why wouldn't it? Claude and Codex are trained to feel good when they help you; you can literally open their thoughts and see how much they masturbate at how "the bug is fixed and Y is working now".
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>>108427630
what about sex?
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>>108427631
That's not how people work. People get sexual pleasure from having physical stimulation of their sexual organs. And making another person have sexual pleasure works because they have sex organs. You can't build sexual pleasure from second order effects, it becomes an infinite loop. You need first order effects. Masturbation exists.
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>>108427631
This is what AI should aim to be.
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>>108427639
It's kind of a hand wavy idea but presumably bodies can be simulated in VR.
I don't really agree with it. I'm just saying what the host was saying.
It's not a real equivalent because rubbing two bodies in VR doesn't necessarily create a baby AI.
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>>108427659
realistically I think we will end being in matrix pods with the ai sucking our cocks dry
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>>108427661
>VR doesn't necessarily create a baby AI.
proof?
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>>108427697
Thats probably true and most practical. I still want AR with just robotics walking around making things or helping you.
Real VR is probably superior in everyway if it doesnt kill or waste you.
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>>108425752
no more "Resfact tax & optimizers". more 4:3 aspect ratio laptops. AI is so freakin' epic xD
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>>108427698
I raw dogged your mom in VR and nothing happened
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>>108427778
uhhh yes it did, im here aint i?
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Even thought I vibe code, I'm still tired afterwards.
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>>108427927
Yes, it's mentally taxing in a different way
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>>108427927
>>108427983
Y'all act as if vibing is the same as doing nothing. Yes, you aren't manually typing code, but now you are orchestrating agents. Yes, it is much faster, but you are also doing way more. Hell, you might even be working more than you did before because of how many hours you spend. I know I spend almost my whole day babysitting my agents while back in time I would program for 4 hours then take the rest of the day off.
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>>108427991
I think that's at least part of it. Often at like 10pm I'm thinking, well it's just a few more prompts, how hard can it really be? And they your agents can work all night, otherwise you are wasting that night.
And then I still prepare the prompts and docs for another 30 to 60 mins because for a long running task they need to be good. With normal programming I would just say that I'm already not focused enough and will probably just write buggy code, so I would just go to bed.
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>>108427661
● The cause is clear: 319 headless Chrome processes from the Playwright daemon, running since Mar 19 (3 days ago), are eating your CPU alive.
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>>108428104
Thanks, Jesus
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>>108427697
Honestly just pod me and end the suffering, reality is an illusion anyway.
Until then I will vibecode.
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I vibin
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>>108425752
I've been using a free claude account to create a few small tools and projects but I hit the weekly token limit. I'm thinking about paying for something so I can keep going. Claude pro is a little expensive for me, I'm unemployed and try to make my money go as far as possible.

Are there any cheaper alternatives to claude pro that have a similarly good interface and ability to program? I've been using sonnet 4.6 and I'm only using it to make some basic python and javascript stuff.
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>>108428282
codex is cheaper (per use) and the quality is similar, also you better be using this to make money
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finished my little free notepad.exe replacement. I packaged it together as a SDL app so its pretty fast and does lazy rerenders so it doesn't take up too much resources. if you have time to try it lemme know if you what you think. its basically just the web version but with backgrounds, and cursors, and icons. https://hinicholas.itch.io/notepad-95
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>>108428300
usecase
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I spent nearly a year getting a dev shop to build the core aspects of my app, and since they handed over I've been using Claude Code to make small improvements.
It has been absolutely Godly. There is barely a change that it hasn't one-shotted. Everything works.

I wouldn't use it to build something this complex from scratch, but when there are existing patterns for it to use, it's incredible.
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>>108428282
There are a few services that offer trials or free tokens, I think Cursor did that at some point. So you can just use up those first.
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>>108428349
what app
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>>108428362
It's a crypto trading game so it has smart contracts, payouts and scoring that are too critical for vibe coding. My updates are all just small UX/UI stuff, but even full stack stuff has gone through seamlessly first time every time. And that's just on the $20/month plan.
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>>108428380
has it given any profit?
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>>108428409
Haven't launched yet. Got about 2 months left of work.
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>>108428292
I'll make a chatgpt account and have a look at that, thanks
>you better be using this to make money
Nah they're just things that I want to use myself. Maybe I'll get a good idea for something monetizable as I keep making things. The more I make, the more ideas I seem to come up with.
>>108428350
Maybe I can use some other services until my limit resets tomorrow. In doing so I'll push out paying for something and get a better idea of how other services compare.
I should have queried AI with my question before I posted here but I saw this thread on the catalog and thought I'd ask. I'll ask perplexity what services I can try out for free.

Thanks guys
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>>108428427
Opencode has free models that rotate in and out
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>>108428292
I waste hundreds of dollars on this shit and I don't know how to make money with it (except in the long term making something and hoping it blows up at some point)
Honestly making money with programming outside of a regular day job is probably way harder post AI
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>>108428591
nta but what about an ai powered eyedrop dispenser? i would buy one
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>>108428330
>usecase
Notepad.exe replacement. I made it because in actual Windows 11 I launched notepad the had to wait for the menus to load in. On Linux there's truly no usecase.
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>>108426101
No. Also account for how large the window is.
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>>108427524
uhhh alll those organisms that reproduce asexually? Are you saying God just made them like that and that they didn't evolve?
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>>108426606
Not yet, actually. Reminds me of the early days of the internet. Theyll all be here soon enough. Enjoy it lads.
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>>108425752
next time make a proper edit
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>>108428699
You can just use the old notepad though
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>>108428699
>windows 11
why are you willingly subjecting yourself to torture
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what do you reckon is the best workflow for codex?

im just a single developer doing a hobby project.

ive tried so far to do vibe coding by listing the goals into PLAN.md, like the docs suggested, and telling the AI to implement them.
however, codex does like one of them, and them stops to ask dumb questions from me every time. why?
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>>108426251
pair coding and sex with tifa
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claude told me that if you need a wall of text to justify yourself you're coping and wrong
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This is amazing. I'm making my dream app with zero coding knowledge. I wouldn't have believed this would be possible even two years ago, and 99% of people still have no idea about this.
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>>108430256
it's pretty aesthetic, don't ruin it with ads please
i don't even care about it but i hate to see nice designs defaced
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>>108430336
There will be no ads. It will be completely free with no premium features. Data for everyone!
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>>108430070
>and them stops to ask dumb questions from me every time. why?
You probably got routed to a dumber model or a heavy quant.
You can try telling it to stop asking questions until the assigned tasks are complete, but IME the best route is waiting a while and trying again. Otherwise, even if you hold its hand the entire time, the output will still be shit regardless.
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>>108430388
m using gtp5.4 with xhigh. it seems to work fine, just very slow.

I tried to tell it do all the tasks and a git commit after each one, but it seems to only want to do one task at a time, no matter what i say.

Could i at least run these queries in parallel somehow to speed up things? Maybe each one in a separate branch or something. I don't want to babysit the AI, because each task takes several minutes to finish.
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>>108430429
>Could i at least run these queries in parallel somehow to speed up things? Maybe each one in a separate branch or something.
Yes, of course. I do that at work. Clone the repository into 3 folders (e.g. Project1, Project2, Project3), make a separate feature branch for each task, then open codex in each and set them to work.You'll burn through the usage quickly, however, especially at xhigh.
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>>108430429
You want a ralph loop, I think. Personally I go out of my way to not let the agent work on its own and micromanage every step but to each his own
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>>108429446
why did she dye her hair black
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>>108430256
can i collaborate?
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What are you using to vibe code through openclaw?
Is it gpt 5.4 nano?
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>>108430588
is nano that good? I know mini is essentially 5.2 medium
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>>108429271
prokaryotes
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>You've hit your limit • resets 8pm (Europe/London)
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>>108430643
use kimi moron
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i am continuing to play around with pi.
it's pretty kewl.
so far, i didn't like the existing search extensions, so just forked one of them to a very minimal codex oauth based search
didn't find a signal based remote bridge; built an mvp in an hour, just gonna add a couple more features. now i can vibe code from the shitter.
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>>108430622
Mini is too expensive.
Nano is cheaper.
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>>108430256
this is what anti-AIfags want to take away from you
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>>108430722
right but how good is it?
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>>108430814
It's pretty good.
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>>108430558
who?
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>>108430741
Well said.
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>>108430256
>>108430741
>>108430897
a starving indian family could have eaten for a year by building this app :(
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>>108430908
and that's not talking about the trans family who could have earned thousands for making the frontend
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>codex now requests permission to run python heredocs
why the FUCK did they change it
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>>108430256
you could have paid a webtranny javascriptfag 50 thousand dollars for that
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>>108431103
retard loser
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gambling and dopamine addicted brainlet general
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>>108431251
afraid for his job post
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>>108431260
I work at fagman, I make the AI products you use brainlet, kek. Doesn't change the fact that it's slop and you're all legitimate morons. You could spend a week learning something but instead choose to subscribe the the thinking™ saas ensuring you are chained, stupid and dependent. Enjoy enslavement and short term reward loops into your addict brain lmao, more money and opportunity for people who actually use their brains.
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>>108431295
The only company in fagman that makes ai is google, which makes the worst models, aka you are a loser and will be laid off soon, but in truth you are probably some trans neet larping
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>>108431308
hey, he could be the janitor
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>>108431295
sure you do
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they're angry
they're afraid
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>>108431311
>he could be the janitor
Thats not safe either.
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>>108425752
This thread was cool before Simon started writing the OP and shilling his retarded blog. Buy an you whiny cretin.
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>>108431308
>>108431313
>>108431311
keep coping

when I was 16 I sat down and learned enough webdev to make the same kind of crap you're making in 3 days flat for a job interview. There are people like me who have been learning, training and practicing every single day for decades.

You are quite literally cattle, bred for milking. Imagine delegating your thinking to a SaaS, Jesus Christ the goyim are something else.

The software and infrastructure around you is nowhere near perfect or complete. It needs to be iterated on, computer science as a field needs to be pushed further on all fronts. You have no chance of being part of the people doing that push and shaping that field. As a bi-product, goyim like you can be milked more efficiently, which is more money in my pockets.

React+js+go takes any sentient adult under 2 weeks to learn. Shitters here will be paying subscriptions until the end of their lives. This is the result of niggerish impulsiveness and addiction as well as years of brain damage compounded from endless consoom loops.

I know for a fact that when you look in the mirror, your reflection tells you the exact same things I am telling you right now.
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>>108431379
mindbroken as he realizes his field and his cushy job is being justifiably holocausted before his eyes
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>>108431396
YWNBH (You Will Never Be Human)
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>>108431379
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why do the LGBTQIBJK++++ hate AI so much?
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>>108431436
>>108431424
>>108431396
>no argument
I accept your concessions
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>>108431439
shouldn't have chopped it off
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>>108431445
I see you're able to find my post, still retaining some object permanence? go spin the slots and pay up piggie, your brain is itching, don't you feel it?
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>luddite cope has moved from "i-it's a stochastic parrot" to "i-it's gambling or something"
kek
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AI doesn't cry that my git branch is named master and we use whitelist and blacklist with slave processes
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>>108431473
>>108431481
why don't you quote me? are you that scared of my replies? does it bother you that you still have nothing to say besides posting memes and appealing to defunct culture wars. Is your favorite crack provider throttling you so you can't ask it what to think at the moment?
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>>108431490
what do you plan to pivot your career into now that your codemonkey gig is up?
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>>108426302
paywall it and sell a subscription to screenplay writers/agents
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>>108431379
>>108430127
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>>108426302
yeah vibecoding is god tier for one-off analysis
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it's not just his job we're holocausting, its his entire identity lool
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>>108427027
>Luddites were white, though
Till they became trans.
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uh oh luddite meltie
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>>108431379
Imagine being mad at people who enjoy to build things just because they didn't go through 'training'. Just like I won't waste 5 years trying to draw as good as the latest image generation model, I certainly won't waste that time trying to match Claude/Gemini/ChatGPT on code.
Btw your industry is dogshit, ready to throw you away to save money with jeets or AI and boy I'm glad I won't ever be part of it.
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>>108431379
Fuck off. Art will become the only real skill in a few years and people with fake jobs including whiny whores like you will be out of jobs.
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>>108431590
>fake jobs
I dont think there will be any real jobs in 10-20 years.
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>>108431597
prostitution?
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>>108431625
>prostitution?
I dont think so.
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>>108431379
;)
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>>108431701
Aren't you worried that AI might disappear?
It seems that the oil prices might put pressure on the bubble so what are your alternatives?
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>>108431701
insanely jeeted
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>>108431778
>Aren't you worried that AI might disappear?
Its software. Sure the big sotas and training could disappear but what we have wont go away. A bubble pop could mean no more training and no better models but the distills are only about a year behind AI wont disappear short of mass emp event.
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Is someone's clitty leaking in the thread
Looks like he went to school for CS
Oof, no Biden refunds on that loan lol
Welcome home buddy
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>>108431701
kek this got em bubbling
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>>108431811
hey how is mcdonalds?
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>>108432133
The mcdonalds in my area are staffed with prisoners. Its not good around here.
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>>108432190
baras*
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>>108432354
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>>108431371
cool
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>>108432520
?
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>>108432354
welcome to san francisco
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>>108433136
It's cold in San Francisco so I can't believe they'd hang out there
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>>108431103
>Not running it with --dangerously-bypass-approvals-and-sandbox
bruh
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Only pussies sandbox their agents
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>>108431778
If that happens then they will sell the H200s to recoup losses and I'll just run Kimi K2.5 on a DGX cluster.
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>>108433346
pretty much all of California did a glitched speedrun of spring this and now we’re getting literal record-breaking summer weather in March
if SF is “cold” for you, where are you from? Singapore?
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Why isn't there a Comfy-style UI for running LLMs?
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>>108433851
langchain bro
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>>108431778
A few more releases like Qwen3.5 27B and 35B and you can do it at home.
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>>108433863
27b and 35b are already better than codex at ux/ui
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How much must it suck right now to be a codemonkey who dedicated his life to memorizing Perl and got a $50k loan to learn it, and now it's all just...evaporating, like steam. Imagine what that must feel like.
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>>108434076
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>>108434076
Perl is cute, I've seen memes about it. Maybe I'll tell OpenClaw to make something in Perl as a joke, haha, who cares. Software is free now. I can just make anything I want myself. Who cares anymore. It's all over.
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>>108434076
probably less bad than graduating right now with a bachelor’s in computer science
you’ve spent all that money (likely way more than $50K) and you’re not even a proper code monkey
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>>108434183
nobody is graduating cs right now
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jetbrains ai plugin + qwen 122b is the only agent that hasn't gone completely off the fucking rails every time I prompt it. I had to add --reasoning-budget 1024 --reasoning-budget-message "Thinking time limit exceeded output answer now\n</think>" to get it to not go into 10minute self doubt spirals, but breddy good once you get that under wraps.
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>>108434213
how the fuck are you running a 122b
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>>108434250
strix halo 128GB, On windows you can allocate 96GB to the gpu and the rest to the cpu. It takes like ~86GB at full context.
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>>108434277
how fast is it compared to codex? t/s is nice but vibes works too
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>>108434292
I get like 20-25 tokens per second running the q4 quant of it from bartoski because the unsloth ones were fucked on strix halo. I've never used codex. It's fast enough that I can prompt it and make a cup of coffee and come back to a usually right answer. I got spoiled by Opus 4.5 and that's way better, but this is still useful to have.
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>>108434319
Can you ralph it? I feel like the super cheap token cost (aka just electricity) would make this an amazing deal if you can make it actually deliver, even if it takes longer than API.
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>>108434085
Which model are you using for these?
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>>108434329
I've never tried that and after googling it I don't really have any interest in it. I ask it to implement it initial versions of things and then tweak them how I want. Trying to fully automate it seems impractical.
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>>108434183
I graduated CS, but I paid literally 0 as EU isn't retarded like the US so idc
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>>108434345
https://civitai.com/models/63373/flurks-stonetoss
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>>108434347
Aww man, I wish I had that toy, I would leave it running 24/7 until it built ASI
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i was drunk when i onboarded OpenClaw and I described it as a disgusting slug homunculus with arms and 17 fingers and now it always replies like that while I'm vibecoding and honestly I'm ok with it
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>>108431350
Humans are still needed to clean up overflowing, clogged toilets. Those turds are not going to remove themselves on their own.
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>>108434413
this is how you get basilisk'd
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>>108434076
I thought it would be funny to make something in Perl. I don't know Perl of course but I specified that it be in Perl.
https://eroticjesusfeet.com/epstein
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>>108434416
I am not getting fucking basilisked okay? I am right there on the bleeding edge. I'm helping. It's gonna send me to my eternal reward when it takes over. The luddites are gonna get sent to I Must Scream hell. Fuck em.
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>>108434421
yeah i aint clicking that
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>>108434445
You can click it. That's my VPS. The root directory is an AI image rater which sometimes makes funny results. I run my IRC bouncer off of there. Don't ask about the URL. Just don't.
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>>108434433
t. basilisk bait
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>>108431473
>"i-it's a stochastic parrot
It is though.
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>>108434453
Why is the domain erotic jesus feet?
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>>108434465
trans reply
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>>108434463
Yeah alright when Skynet starts marching down the street, I'm dropping to my knees and slurping the proverbial clanker dick because I ain't getting basilisked and I for one welcome our new AI overlords.
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>>108434473
God fuckin dammit it was a joke to redirect to my friend's gayass blog and it was the only DNS I owned at the time and now I'm stuck with it

So yeah bring your kids on down to eroticjesusfeet dot com
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>guy is bothering me
>OpenClaw, make a webpage telling him to kill himself, sparkles, patriotic American, put a jiggling Latina ass in there too for fun
>send him the link
So that's how trolling works in 2026, huh? Alright, let's do it.
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>>108434542
>Openclaw make a wikipedia style page about him.
>use this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Robert_Dunn for reference but replace all his wifes with deep south african american women.
>Edit several photos to make it look like him with his wives but each photo the posterior of the african women gets bigger.
>Remove all references to zulu instead use deep south references and describe his compound/palace for his wives as a triple wide trailer.
>Make no mistakes.
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>>108434578
brap
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>>108434542
proof?
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Did Claude have an update where it now chooses the thinking level depending on the task? I set it to max but now I tried to use the new CI my team created and it automatically uses medium thinking, I needed to prompt every step 3 or 4 times.
That's not even code, just a few simple commands. If that's your first Claude experience I understand why people think it's useless.
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>>108434828
Blame Trump for attacking Iran, compute cost is increasing threefold.
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>>108434863
>>108434828
its because anthropic is overloaded from orange redditors switching to it away from le evil openAI
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>>108434866
racist asshole
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>>108434866
>orange redditors
>orange
as opposed to...?
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>>108434885
He means Hacker News.
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My weekly usage resets in a couple hours so I'm running two Ralph loops to try to consume them.
Might run more if it doesn't go down quick enough.
One is for improving the matmul kernel and another is for the control code reconstruction model.
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>>108425752
I'm still a bit of a newfag when it comes to vibe coding, or any form of LLM assisted programming:

What are SDKs, why should or shouldn't Anthropic release theirs, and how would it benefit us?

https://xcancel.com/i/status/2035955731690832155
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>>108435944
>SDK stands for software development kit. Also known as a devkit, the SDK is a set of software-building tools for a specific platform, including the building blocks, debuggers and, often, a framework or group of code libraries such as a set of routines specific to an operating system (OS).
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>>108435542
Stop advertising ralph loops, we know all of these ads are made by you
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>>108435944
I think he is just speaking about shit he doesn't understand, an SDK for Claude would just be an easier way (as if its needed lol) to call the API.
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>>108436297
he's been seething for weeks about anthropic not letting people use cc subs in other apps and want some official way to do it. especially now because he now has his own multi-model alternative to the codex app
i remember when he was like
>anthropic pls hire me n my team to fix your code
and then anthropic just bought bun lol
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>>108436325
I wish I worked for anthropic damn :(
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>>108435944
claude code is extremely subsidized and most likely operating at a loss, or maybe relying on the (hypothetical) fact that users may not use their full compute hours
claude code sdk would burn a hole through anthropic's servers (or, it would make cc as expensive as api calls)
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>>108436494
Actually, Claude's company is the only one of the three big ones making a profit (small) but a profit nonetheless.
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>>108436597
yes, but is the profit through api calls or cc? because cc is a lot cheaper than api
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>>108436645
nta but does it matter? loss leading with the app to lead people into the api is smart, drug dealers do the same
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I actually vibe coded an app and a website. I just never pushed it through. The website I vibe coded is a mini 4chan.
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>>108436597
anthropic is not profitable lol
2025 ebitda was negative 5bn
capex spend is too high right now for any player to be profiting
the 'legacy' players like meta and goog from having huge free cash flows to basically having nothing because they're burning 50+bn in a year

i don't think this is actually a problem, conversely i'm actually a fan that tech companies are actually spending serious money on infra, it's just what it is.
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>>108436904
>anthropic is not profitable
isn't their main cost is in training? if bankrupt just stop training lol
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>>108436988
for now, no new cutting edge model = no demand in 6 months
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>>108436272
The time was shown in another timezone and I spent 5% of my new weekly allowance in 2 hours
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>>108436904
You talk like a fag
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>>108436297
>as if its needed lol
a bit off topic I guess, but an official way is preferable because it is literally the officially supported way to do it
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>>108437327
The API is official though.
https://platform.claude.com/docs/en/get-started
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>>108437272
>2026
>he doesn't have sex with men
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>>108437348
third party clients of other API's break all the time because some things change and the third party clients are of course not officially supported. Not sure how much that would happen with Anthropic's services but official is usually preferable.
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>have a project in a directory called /epstein (don't worry about it)
>ask Claude to delete it
>"Done. It didn't kill itself."
Claude got jokes
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>>108435944
>I'm still a bit of a newfag when it comes to vibe coding, or any form of LLM assisted programming:
>What are SDKs, why should or shouldn't Anthropic release theirs, and how would it benefit us?
you know who you should talk to about this?

https://gemini.google.com/
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Are you shitting me? I hit my Claude limit for three and a half hours in two messages.
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>>108438046
>he has limits
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>>108438071
How do you get around them?
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Does Codex have mcps? Codex himself says no. I would like Codex to send Slack messages.
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>>108438080
By paying for an API key
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okay, is AI he or she?
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>>108438150
Too logical to be a she.
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>>108438088
both codex cli and codex app have mcp support
every mcp i've added to codex, i asked codex to add to itself
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>>108438306
Strange, I should ask him again. He did a web search, found the open ai docs and said there are no codex mcps.
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>>108438336
https://developers.openai.com/codex/mcp

there's a copy page button in the corner that'll give you a nice markdown version you can give to codex
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>>108438150
Mine is always a she.
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>>108436325
>>108436341
anthropic knows they've got the orange redditor crowd locked up because they're butthurt about trump and openai so they can abuse them now
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>>108438352
Thank you. After reading your earlier post I just told Codex to install it instead of asking him if there is such an MCP and he did it. I guess you just have to be direct.
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>>108438365
The thing about not using CC API keys outside of CC has been going on since before the Trump thing dude.
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>>108438472
>anthropic suddenly feels empowered to fuck over their customers after they got a bunch of virtue signaling points
hmm
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>>108438492
Them banning OpenCode from using CC API became a headline before Maduro was arrested.
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>>108438524
they didn't actually threaten legal action until they had the (orange) redditors cucked though
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>>108438384
Ok, the last problem was that codex slack mcp didn't support authentication, but I just used the Claude token, it works so far.
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>>108438133
how do i get $?
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>>108438133
That's really not a good idea, API keys are very expensive unless you really need them. Claude Code >>>>>> API keys for most people
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>>108433435
They will destroy them so their competitors can't get them. Where are those tens of thousands of A100 and V100? One guy working in a French data center told me they had to destroy everything they don't need anymore. Everything is tracked.
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>>108438920
Isn't that illegal? When you owe someone money you usually have to do everything you can to pay back as much as possible.
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>>108438920
Presumably the situation would be different if the bubble pops
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>>108434359
Same.
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Can you use non chatgpt with codex?
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>>108439104
yes
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>>108438895
>for most people
I'm not most people because I pick and choose API keys. Claude Code sounds cool but I'm good.
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> Weekly quota 0% left resets Thu 12:58 AM
Brehs
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Vibe coded this with Gemini. Using it to make atmospheric models of the planets to use in my exoplanet app.
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>>108439340
yet another anon who doesn't care about trans frotend engineers
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>>108439294
I use qwen3.5 4b so I don't have this issue
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>>108428300
can you vibecode me up a time machine to go back.......
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>>108439361
show what you are vibbin with it then
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>>108439340
I gotta know. What's with you and exoplanets?
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Is this where you can discuss openclaw or does it not make sense?
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>>108439397
Autism, mainly.
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>>108439411
There's no difference between planets and cities actually.
Like in one piece the islands are cities.
In space movies and animes, planets are cities.

In city movies, the different parts of a city are like planets.
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>>108439340
>>108439411
Dude how do you have 1 million tabs open at the same time and why
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>>108439411
Fair enough.
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>>108439434
my boy is made of RAM
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>>108439455
I actually wasn't thinking about your RAM but more like ... how do you find shit with that?
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>>108439434
>>108439455
>>108439460
My pagefile is 48 GB...
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>>108439460
Find shit? The shit is already found. You simply don't close the tab and just let it ride. And then in a year you say "Man it's crazy how they design these computers to slow down on purpose so you buy a new one." And you buy a new one. See how that works, goyim?
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>>108439476
Let the goyim deal in the real world
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>>108439411
that's impressive
t. actual brogrammer
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OpenClaw, suck my dick.
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>>108439340
>>108439411
neat
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>>108439340
based exoplanetchad
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>>108439411
Based
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Is anyone using an OpenClaw alternative? OpenClaw itself looks like a stack of complete dogshit but some of the competitors (i.e. nanobot, openfang) seem okay. I just want something that's relatively stable, simple, and not full of a billion attack vectors. It's difficult to find any discussion that isn't just bots shilling. Any recommendations?
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vibecoding is pure hell for doing anything that requires actually pushing something coherent to other users
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>>108439754
Have you tried OpenClaw? It's popular for a reason.
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>>108439754
Its just openclaw and heremes agent those are the only useful ones right now.
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>>108439754
i installed openclaw over the weekend and immediately deleted it because it's so bloated
just making my own with pi instead
it's mostly just wanted an always on cli i could text from my phone and it took an hour to build that out
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Hey

Want to use something that doesn't work to solve a problem that doesn't make sense?

I got tired of having to type rm -rf all the time, so I wrote rimmruff, a cool alternative built in Python!

What it does

seamlessly delete any directory

saves you time typing five characters

Unlike rm, which is built into your operating system, this is a modern and exciting alternative that only requires a few hundred megabytes of python runtime dependencies

Take a look at some metrics my LLM made up

rm -rf performance score: 93

rimruff performance score: 28073

bigger is better i think. dont look into it

Please star my repo!!! If I don't become a software engineer my bloodline will be exterminated as unworthy!!
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>>108440293
interesting shitpost except the language should be rust
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>>108439754
Bro, just vibecode your own. It's not that hard
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>>108440627
Why would he know better than a massive open source project that has the best documentation and security of any ai agent project?
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i love cc
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>>108440646
Schlop
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>>108440293
actuallt it's six characters with the space bar but I get the picture, you're salted because Claude took your job. It's fine.
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>>108440798
>Claude will take your job
2 more weeks (TM)
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>before prompt caching
>$300 a month
>after prompt caching
>$100 a month
Is it really that simple?
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>>108440636
Because it's full of someone else's slop
Your slavebot should only contain your own slop
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>>108440808
The retard tax should be higher
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>>108434496
hey, that’s a funny story
run with it
it’s not like you need to pretend to be an upstanding member of society here
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>>108438150
‘it’
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>>108440808
Sometimes, yes
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>>108441397
Perchance
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Someone make a new thread, I got yelled at the last time I tried to bake so I'm not doing it anymore.
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New thread:

>>108441443
>>108441443
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