for the next week this board will be flooded with xitter screencap threads and bots

calling it now, ngmi

>>108426636
he got lucky with one investment in a payment processor and had been buying out anybody with a good idea for him to turn into pump and dump vehicles ever since.

>LE TERAWATT OF COMPUTE
I can I have 3 pounds of microchip please
And an ounce of AI as a treat

Compute for space
While the satellite internet was deemed infeasible due to costs and massive amounts of coverage you need, there's literally ZERO reason to put servers into space. Literally what fucking for?
At least for satellite internet there were some advantages, what the fuck are advantages for space servers?

>>108426722
The advantage is that his company will be the one paid to launch the useless space servers into orbit.

>>108426806
Once you're right you can just do whatever.

what the fuck is a terawatt of compute? isn't computing normally measured in flops?

>>108426867
for example elon hacked my computer and made it say right rather than rich, he will never be punished for it

wow that's enough to mine one bitcoin

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1.21 jigawatts of compute!

>>108426636
one terashit per megafart?!

>>108426878
no, wattage is the current standard for data and ai centers.

incidentally, it's a seven year wait time to hook up to the grid. microsoft can't even deploy 90% of its gpus.

>>108426636
>Elon announces...
>The goal is...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKacHpM8yTc

>>108426651
I spoke to Elon about this, he's gonna make it happen. He gave me and Jensen a 6 hour presentation on the processes involved with this. He already knows where to get the raw resources for the cpus, memory, and glass. He was doing math on a chalkboard I have in my kitchen while Jensen and I eagerly sipped the white tea Elon brought back from Shenzhen. Like actual calculus math. Jensen and I felt so stupid and pretended to burn out tongues so we didn't have to answer his multiplication questions. Those are hard, Jensen admitted. Elon has this covered. It's pretty obvious

This is how we're going to make sure our space weapons infrastructure aren't backdoored by the chinks? We're gonna make sure they're 100% backdoored by the jews? Stupid plan, government needs to rethink this.

>>108426651
So it'll just be like any other week?

>>108426636
Will I be forced to pay a shitty subscription service to even use the most basic of processing functions like with Grok?

>>108427129
In the decade it takes to get the power infrastructure required to run those they'll all be obsolete. What literal retard approved those purchases?

>>108426651
fpbp
also, when we say xitter that's "shitter" right?

What are you planning to build? Space heaters?

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>compute measured in energy consumption
>>108427129
>it's industry standard practice
Holy kek

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>>108427216
>government needs to rethink this.
The don't have to rethink anything because it was their idea to begin with.

>>108426636
I hate this cocksmoke so much. Complete idiot.

Elon is so stupid. He is like an Adhd kid linking everything to his favorite subject.

Compute in space will be much more expensive than on earth and there are already chips to bake LLMs on that run at like the Taalas HC1 that runs at 1000x the speed when running Llama 8b.

Lllms will fit into people's phones.

It will be much more important to give this small model the ability to solve problems by keeping the context window small by having the logic abstracted than finding a long term solution for data centers.

This solution does not help the average person since people want local LLMS that do not spy on them, not data centers that ordinary people cannot destroy anymore when shit goes rogue.

>>108428205
delet this

You can't scale ASML faster than they already are, and you can't scale Zeiss.
So what is Elon getting at here? That they'll be doing repackaging?
If you can't scale EUV you can't meet these numbers, and you can't scale EUV (unless Tesla is planning to build a particle collider and fast-track SSMB, which is also absurd).

If anyone but Elon announced this I would say they were complete fantasists.

>>108428255
>Compute in space will be much more expensive than on earth
There's literally no more power on earth. AI GPUs are just sitting around unused.
>>108428314
This. Good luck scaling TSMC by 50 times when there's literally not that many EUV machines in the world.
>(unless Tesla is planning to build a particle collider and fast-track SSMB, which is also absurd).
They might be, I heard they were building a cyclotron in Florida.

>>108428329
>I heard they were building a cyclotron in Florida.
Based and worth a shot, I guess. No doubt China is pouring billions into theirs, and has a head start, but a reliable 13.5nm mini sun satisfies both the commercial need for EUV light and my sci-fi futurist vibe check.

>>108426636
What flavor?

>>108426636
Ahhhh yilong ma, you utter fucking sperg. Look, we promise we'll think you're cool and not an exceptionally cringy ketamine addict if you use it to make DDR4 and DDR5 chips for consumers only, yeah? Okay?
Fucking hell I mean some of this shit he's done these 2 years kek, motherfucker wants approval from the 4cuck audience it's absolutely absurd

>>108426636
In other words, it will be a failure or never happen.

>>108426636
And how many watts in an AI server, 1-2000? So he aims to build 500 million to 1 Billion chips a year? Doubt.

>>108426722
>>108428255
I read an article saying that if you apply costs such as legal fees, taxes, regulations, etc, it could actually end up cheaper having the servers in space in the long run. So I can see how it can appeal to him when he already has his own space company to further reduce costs.

>>108426651
What a surprise

>>108428329
>There's literally no more power on earth
This is easily the most retarded post I've seen all year.

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>>108428407
It's not as outrageous as it seems. We can map the rate of new energy deployment. We know how long it takes to manufacture a gas turbine blade, and that's set in stone.
And companies are buying future energy capacity contracts faster than we can built it. There's now talk of turning basically anything that can be a generator, into a generator (for instance, manufacturers of huge tanker engines for ships, repurposing them into electricity generators.)

Demand for energy and compute is up against the ceiling of what we can physically produce for the foreseeable future.

>>108428421
there isnt even nearly enough water lmao
energy is NOT the only concern

>>108427129
>no, wattage is the current standard for data and ai centers.
In that case it seems the energy companies are behind it.

>>108428407
So in your genius mind you think the worlds biggest companies are just refusing to plug the GPUs into the wall for no reason at all, huh?

>>108428496
Or you know, they're not plugging them in because it's not profitable?

How fucking retarded do you have to be that when presented with a scenario where even paying the electricity bill for your product is enough to not make it viable, that your magic solution is to fucking send them in to space?

Genuinely how retarded are you?

>>108428511
>Or you know, they're not plugging them in because it's not profitable?
Oh, you think they're not plugging them in because the power costs too much? In that case clearly we should keep all GPUs on Earth then where the only country with growing electricity production is China. You're so smart man, what a smartie.
>that your magic solution is to fucking send them in to space?
Oh? The place with power? Yeah, sending the things that are too expensive to run power wise on Earth to space where all the power is sure is dumb, man I'm a dumbie.

what in the flying FUCK is going on ITT

The thing that seems dumb to me is the lunar mass driver. How the fuck are you gonna launch AI sats from the moon? Send all the copper and pure silicon to the moon to manufacture there and fling it back on earth? Why are we involving the moon at all?

chips will be made on Mars and they will be transported with the hyperloop. trust

>>108428384
A high end gpu chip can push 600 watts so Elon is effectively advertising that he will make a fab that can produce about 3.5 million wafers per month.
>1 tril / 600 / about 40 good 600w class chips per wafer / 12 months

For reference this would be a facility 35 times larger than the world's current best.
Forget the equipment necessary - forget even the materials necessary.
There doesn't exist in the entire world the amount of skilled trained people to do the work. You could combine all fabs' personnel globally and not be 1/5th of the staff required.

Even if it were possible the scale of such a project would require decades for full rollout and cost in the hundreds billions.

>>108428572
tldr, the fat ket snuffler is full of shit?
must be an IPO due.

>>108426716
>3 pounds of microchip
With or without mushy peas

>>108428572
Burning a terrawatt isn't that hard.
Just make GPUs that are 100 times less efficient and have really good cooling.

>>108426722
So the plebs can't smash them when they find themselves starving on the sidewalk

>>108428535
in 2 more years

Elon says many things
maybe 5% of them actually happen
he just keeps going from one grift to the next one

>>108427735
Welcome to the AI bubble where just the act of buying tons of AI chips is enough to attract investors and inflate stock price.

>>108428314
You don't need to scale TSMC's EUV. You can scale older shit and win with volume alone.

>>108428875
Older shit is less power efficient, so more expensive to run and unable to compete with other data centers running better chips.

>>108428906
Not a problem in space

>>108428917
it is
cooling and power, which older chips both need more of, are much more difficult in space

>>108426636
>80% for space and 20% for the ground
Is he still trying to make space datacenters a thing? Regardless of how stupid that is I am all for more competition entering the market, the more competition the better.

>>108428755
Promise Mars, get LEO.

>>108428923
Assuming the can make 2x times less efficient chps they can just launch 2 satellites instead of one. If they can produce more than 2 times than TSMC can supply their top competitor, they win by volume, as I stated earlier.

>>108426722
>there's literally ZERO reason
Are you... Retarded?

>>108428971
Are you? Name a single reason pls

>>108428970
It would be cheaper to buy a better chip than launch an additional satellite.

>>108428973
>single reason
A server outside of any jurisdiction?
Physically inaccessible data cache?

>>108428977
>muh outside jurisdiction
Not necessarily an advantage if you think about it for more than 5 seconds. Also de facto it will always be inside someone's jurisdiction considering you don't control the connection to the satellite you fucking brainlet
>physically inaccessible data cache
You can easily achieve this on earth

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>>108426636
It's an oversaturated market I'd say.

>>108427735
>n the decade it takes to get the power infrastructure required to run those they'll all be obsolete
best part is that they can't be recycled or repurposed for home consumer hardware

>>108428984
I named two and you are choking while stretching your gaping asshole.
Not to point out the obvious, but satellites are computers in space and a lot of countries and organizations are bending over backwards to get more of them up there. They must be pretty fucking retarded in doing so, right? Because there's no reason for any of it. Right?

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>>108426636
>Elon announces he will start making chips
Picrel is what he'll deliver in 5 years and call it a win over the woke left

>>108426636
Dear god please no... isnt there enough cancer in this world already

>>108429051
>immediately resorts to seethe after I BTFO him
Kek
>satellites are computers in space
>orginaizations and countries are bending over backwards to get them there
Not for their computational power, you disingenuous retard. Ofc any modern technology is effectively a computer, but satellites are so important mainly for what they sensor or transmit.

>>108427179
>Like actual calculus math.
Oh yeah, he computed the derivative of 2x^3 +5. And perhaps he went overboard and computed the integral of 1/x between 1 and Tau < infinity. What a genius!

>>108429243
>it doesn't count because I said so
cool

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>>108428384
>So I can see how it can appeal to him when he already has his own space company to further reduce costs.
this is insane cope because it still costs them like $10m to launch a rocket, which is more than enough money to buy land and build datacenters

or even build data center barges, or just sealab datacenters

but no elon is completely in bed with the WEF and the great reset, his plan is literally to destroy trillions in hardware to prevent a used market from existing. If nobody can get a good deal on AI hardware, cloud providers stay a monopoly.

him pretending to care about humanity and the environment was a long con. its pretty funny too because people buying teslas to save the earth also give tons of money to a company whos rockets burn fossil fuels and plans to put tons of lithim and rare earth semiconductors into the atmosphere when the space server renter after only 20 years

>>108426636
will he hire competent people and make it good like spacex/starlink/early Tesla or will he fill it with h1bs and make giga jeetslop SHIT like x/xai/modern Tesla??

>>108429340
>$10m
It's less than 8M.
You don't pay land tax in space either, but who cares.
Most importantly, nobody can audit or inspect your space server.
Forget about that, even shooting one down costs a LOT.

>>108428255
you will be locked in AI prison with the AI servers orbits around you where you cant reach them and you will be happy

>>108429445
>nobody can audit or inspect your space server.
Do you think the space server magically transmits its data to you? Lmao

>>108429487
It's encrypted, what now? :O Fuck off...

>>108429391
Obviously the latter
Anyone with a brain would not want to join this venture

>>108429566
>you can't encrypt servers on earth

>>108426636
also that...
Elon Musk is planning to launch a new payments platform, called XMoney, in beta form to select users in April.

>>108429596
>physical access vs remote
low tier troll
you win, I don't want to participate in this thread anymore

>>108426722
>While the satellite internet was deemed infeasible
Experts told you that? Didnt experts also tell you that twitter would crash in 2 weeks after Musk fired 8000 employees? What happened to them? Did they kill themselves? What do you call a man who does impossible things repeatedly?

>>108429636
What expert said that?

>>108429636
Infeasible doesn't mean impossible my little brainlet.
Anyway, starlink is already running into scalability issues which is exactly what experts predicted. It's especially bad in cities for obvious reasons.
If you want to keep that thing growing further, you practically need to shit up the orbit to an unprecedented degree.
>twatter
It's a fairly solid shithole now with regular outages. Corpos refer to this as "cognitive cost" which means something is running and nobody knows how and why it is needed, meaning if it breaks shit goes down because nobody knows how to fix it.
>the impossible
Musk has done exactly zero things of the impossible that he claimed

>>108429711
>experts predicted
>10 million customers
>aiming for 25 million this year
kek

your brain got scooped up by the "experts"

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>>108426636
Elon going to staff it entirely with jeets, burn $60 billion, produce nothing

>>108428977
>A server outside of any jurisdiction?
Are you retarded? They're a US company, they will be held legally responsible for their servers no matter where those servers are located. This isn't a loophole
>Physically inaccessible
Yeah that's going to be great for maintenance. Because we all know things never break and just continue working forever on their own

>>108429743
The amount of fiber lines ISPs refuse to connect to people who are otherwise starlink customers means the effective bandwidth is zero for fiber lmao

>>108429743
>he isn't aware of oversubscription

>>108426636
will he hire more indian chipmakers?

Just make 7 million ENIACs
ez

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>>108426636
Does anyone know a script on twitter which disable region restrictions beside using vpn?
>This Post from has been withheld in response to a legal demand
Fuck aussie cunt

>>108426722
>ZERO reason
way to out yourself as being completely disconnected from the rest of society
NIMBYs want datacenters gone
there must be a news article coming out every week about some poor boomers living in the middle of nowhere going insane because of a nonstop 80dB drone or the water supply becoming tainted

>>108430609
remove the gov

>>108426636
>for space
Well he is not making consumer chips so this is irrelevant to me.

>>108429743
financial analysts are either the dumbest retards or the biggest grifters
you can't trust anything they say because they're always conveniently forgetting something because they know jack shit about the industries they invest in, or they're intentionally omitting something because it's easier for them to have a vested interest in seeing something fail

>>108431291
I think you're so retarded you can't even comprehend what it would take even ONE of these data centers into space
Let me do a basic calculation:
>a regular data center has about 300 server racks
>a loaded rack weighs on average 680kg
>we magically assume the cooling and power infrastructure is included in this weight
>result: we have to transport 204 metric tons into space
>this could be done with 4 falcon heavy launches
>4 falcon heavy launches cost about 400 million dollars
Congratulations, you've just spent 400 million dollars to get a mid sized server farm into space. This completely excludes rnd for cooling and power, as well as material cost btw.
Wanna know how much building this farm costs on earth?
About 40 million. Materials and everything included.
Surely the 10x price will be worth it tho, especially for a server farm you can't maintain so it'll last 10 years AT MOST for its most optimistic scenario

>>108426636
awful. which company will he grift this time?

>>108431521
The us government kek.
Same as with Tesla, hyperloop, solar rooftops and starlink.

>>108429391
Early SpaceX and Tesla were the only companies at the time that were doing the futurey, visionary, revolutionary shit like cheap modern rockets and electric vehicles and fast satellite Internet EVERYWHERE so the best talent only had one place to go to help Elmo achieve these things. Now that the novelty wore off with fifty other companies attempting the same, and Elon Musk ousting himself as a autistic chud cringelord, only desperate people would want to work for his companies, or in other words immigrants with work visas. And AI slop IN SPACE doesn't excite the imagination as much as cheap modern rockets and electric vehicles.

>>108428970
>Assuming the can make 2x times less efficient chps they can just launch 2 satellites instead of one.
It really doesn't work like that. More area means less on a chip which means per-chip overheads take proportionately more of what you're sending up, and everything gets slower.
On the other hand, a larger feature size can help in space, as that's an environment with a lot more radiation than you normally have on earth. Like a very large amount more. Bigger features makes things more robust. (You need other things too.)

>>108426636
I'd have better time believing him if he said he's going to make a new euv firm. TERRAFAB is going nowhere when asml has years of backlog shipping to actual customers like tsmc and samsung

>>108428314
>You can't scale ASML faster than they already are
Honestly, you probably can. The ASML leadership is very mediocre and Euro-brained when it comes to their way to operate the business.

>>108433147
>Euro-brained
Yeah, it's why it btfos the competition.

>>108428468
it's starting to rekindle the nuclear energy in the form of nuclear startups (?). small form reactors are now starting to get funding, i believe both meta and microsoft are forming nuclear partnerships.

when this all falls apart there is going to be a huge amount of infrastructure sitting around looking for something to do. want an h100 in your bedroom? well buddy, have i got news for you.

>>108426636
>Elon announces!
>Going to Mars
>Self driving cars the norm
>Colonizing the moon
>First trillionaire
Bla bla bla
He spouts on and delivers nothing

>>108429340
you're not buying or building shit for 10 million dollars anon, what are you fucking smoking?

according to nvdia's quarterly statements you're running 50-60 billion per gigawatt. 10m isn't even the down payment on the land and planning permissions.

>>108426636
>AI chips
who cares

>>108433246
there is little to no competition and that's by design. asml owe their entrie technology stack to the us doe, who sat down with them in the 90s are conducted a series of technology handovers for the purposes, apparently, of maintaining other nato country infrastructure. it doesn't make a lot of sense but that's what happened. so their position is due largely to a us backed monopoly, which is more common than you'd think. that position can change, especially with the amount of cash and competition sloshing around the markets.

>>108433318
>asml owe their entrie technology stack to the us doe
Ameriburgers are so delusional it's not even funny

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>>108428711
100% this. AI in space with orbital monitoring and weapons capabilities is the most efficient way to manage a prison planet.

>>108428255
>Compute in space will be much more expensive than on earth and there are already chips to bake LLMs on that run at like the Taalas HC1 that runs at 1000x the speed when running Llama 8b.
Wow, you can make a 800 mm^2 chip that can run an 8b model really fast. Now that's impressive.

>>108427179
kek

>>108428974
It would be if those are available. If they aren't, and producing the better ones can't be done in the time they want them, the more expensive method becomes the only option.

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>terawatt of compute

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>>108433318
why thank you kindly, our Based Burger Overlords!
>fooken banger
ASML are primarily a monopoly now as sold large shares of themselves to all their big customers (Intel, TSMC, yadda) back in 2012 to fund development of EUV. Picrel Intel as example, but most of them seem to have sold their shareholdings since. But this pokering gave ASMC the funds to develop EUV AND locked their main customers in, which is why they are in the position they are in now. Nothing to with Americans or Fat Africans who have neither the patience nor competence to build a competitor in an industry where product run-up is measured in decades, even if they had the investment.

>>108428971
Not polluting nice small towns with screeching servers is probably a good thing

>have to shoot rockets up into space to test and refine the spaceX rockets
>just throw in some servers that run with solar power and sell the compute back down to earth

What's the problem here? Building datacenters is way more expensive because you'll have to pay taxes and there are laws against everything whereas space is free.

Potato chips or some hippie shit?

>>108426636
>Elon Musk
Nothing will get done and this will be forgotten in a year

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>>108433675
>What's the problem here?

>>108433684
IPO! FIRST! THO!
>ishygddt

as in datacenter ASICs
imagine the publicity he'd get for making RAM cheap again though

>>108433694
As AI training requires more and more compute, they can sell compute and earn a lot of money to offset the costs of burning down a satellite datacenter when it eventually falls.

>elon announces another bagholding scheme

/g/ is infested with the castrated reddit tribe

>>108426722
It's the only way to continuously scale compute in reproducible units. Self contained compute units for the cost of manufacture and launch, where costs only go down. Because each one can self power itself with solar panels and doesn't take up real estate

Solar is also a lot more efficient in space

>>108426673
>for him to turn into pump and dump
He first invested in Tesla in 2004 and started SpaceX in 2002. 22 and 24 years ago, respectively. Over two decades is still considered pump and dump? Jesus, you're hard to please.

>>108433774
hes been bundling all his shite under the carpet of SpaceX recently tho, in readiness for dumping the lot on 'investors' who don't look closely at what they are standing on. Or did a rocketco *really* need to buy a loss-making shitposting site ran by a cretin for $45 billion? Not to mention his ludicrous AI in Space shit.

>>108433717
>reddit tribe
we knew Elon was a fraud before reddit decided hating him for political reasons alone

>>108433774
>invested
I bought some stock into apple, I have invested. If Musk bought his factory with his own money, got bunch of people together, hired the first 1000 people that he personally interviewed, wrote most of the legal papers by copypasting spacex documents, designed the Tesla name/logo by pulling from SpaceX designers, paid everyone working there 90% by himself and 10% by rest of the other friends, thats not "investment", thats founding the company. Tesla did not exist before Musk, Musk's money created everything Tesla ever had.

>>108426636
i hope this project bankrupts him, then i wont have to hear about him ever again

>>108434049
it will make him into a 10 trillionaire

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>>108434031
>Tesla did not exist before Musk
Yes, and it's been SUCH a roaring success since Elon started personally taking a hand in the car design, witness the Cybertruck. Why, what a genius this Fat African Charlatan really is! Is there then any entity he cannot entirely fuck up?

>>108434333
Their first car is based off of TZero's car, made by another company. The concept car was already made, all co-founders came together to license and create this TZero car. You're reading fake propaganda information. There are a dozen or so co-founders. The Eberhard guy launched a lawsuit to remove everyone except the two from being co-founder and failed after he was fired from Tesla for not being able to manufacture the car. Musk took over the company as it was on the brink of bankruptcy. Every car Tesla has ever produced and put on sale was done under Musk's watch. Roadster, Model S, Model X, Model Y, Model 3, Cybertruck, Semi, Tesla Battery, Tesla Energy, and now Tesla Fab, All Tesla products ever released for purchase and everything you know about Tesla is done under Musk's reign.

>>108426636
its really nice that someone is willing to invest billions into making a complete supply chain for once. Still sucks that its the stupid Silicon shit and not something more advanced I doubt Musk can succeed but its better than hoarding his wealth.

>>108434614
whats the argument anyway
that tesla is worth more than all other car companies because of the original founders?

>>108428314
Future is owned by optimists

>>108434658
Tesla is Musks creation and Musk is not just "an investor" and imo, he's not even just a "co-founder", but THE core founder of Tesla for all intents, functions and purposes.

>>108431461
*bans data centers in your location*
ok now what retard your data center costs infinity to build on land

>>108434668
I guess the idea is he is a better manager due to extensive technical knowledge, he is better at predicting wide technological trends than most people, he is good at setting up the company culture with how the organization is setup, who gets hired or fired and the underlings do more efficient work under him to create value.

>>108431461
>data centers launched on falcon
kek

>>108434686
Predicting the trends is a function of elite mingling. Remember he has been in tons of meetings and dinner parties with Epstein and every other billionaire. They are all sharing private info amongst each other and in turn fueling the future direction of the world

>>108433822
I mean, did a golf course company really need to become a military drone manufacturer and one of the main sources of drones for the USA? Not really. But a Trump owns the bank that backed the whole thing so nepotism got them the contracts. Right now there's a lot of "did X company really need to get into unrelated Y market"

>>108431461
Ya very stupid how do you even replace failed parts. Laughable.

>>108433460
You can attach algorithmic memory to it instead of using the context window. LLM providers don't want you to know that but with services like Honcho (there will probably also be free local ones similar to that soon) you can save a lot of tokens and even more context window for agentic work.

With all the applications of llms available, you probably don't need many more parameters. Larger models deliver diminishing returns. Going this route takes the same wrong part Dinosaurs took millions of years ago, assuming bigger is better. Speed is more important for natural interaction. Adaptability is what skills provide.

Many models are mixtures of experts where the active parameter set used for the interference is much smaller.

So imagine what 16 of those Taals HC1 can do.

Given that hardware shrinks and that wafers might become 3D, this will one day fit into your smartphone.

Musk is like building a data center in space that will be outdated like an old-school von Neumann computer in 10 years.

Let's do some Muskian principles first thinking here.

Human brains use 25W and have 100T parameters, constantly learning. If we build more neuromorphic chips we can achieve the same or even better systems.

There will be an application ceiling for intelligence. Even for space exploration and understanding the universe.

Imagine von Neumann built his data centers in space in the 50ies, with 10GHz CPUs by spending many more resources. He would run out of use cases. We still need to apply the existing AI everywhere. There are still receptionists doing the work that LLMs can do, assigning appointments at offices.

There are already personalized mRNA vaccines that can cure cancer but not everyone is yet sure that it is a good idea to use them.

The bottleneck is the application, not intelligence.

There are documentaries about gifted individuals. Some end up like Terrance Tao using their giftedness for the greater good but some end up being completely useless.

>>108426636
How much government money is he getting for this scheme?

>>108426636
Measuring compute in watts. Interesting choice.
I assume it will all be locked down. Maybe you won't be able to buy them but only rent them as he maintains ownership of everything. I still wish him good luck. Obviously I will hate the result.

>>108426636
>monorail man has new monorail system to sell
ok

>>108426651
>>108427228
this

>>108435540
With more parameters you can store more facts. Not necessarily diminishing returns

>>108434031
So you're saying he invested his time and money? Glad I was correct.

>>108434686
>>108434762
>predicting
Musk builds his company in his vision and directs all his resources to bring his dream to life, he doesn't sit back and make guesses. Thats wall street and investors that just watches as the world gets built.

>>108429797
>pay the ISP monopoly kikes to do nothing
>this spawns the space internet kike
>this is a good thing in burgerland
whew.

Doesn’t space based data centres or anything power intensive that isn’t short term fail just from thermodynamics alone?

>>108441061
Maybe if it's built wrong.

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>>108431461
not to defend Elon the african drug addicted faggot, but
>>a loaded rack weighs on average 680kg
is that considering the rack mount itself? that shit is heavy, and you don't need it in space.
they can also solder the whole thing which, for some reason, apparently make things cheaper (and obviously a bit lighter). even better if they simply integrate everything in the chips.
also, free, continuous solar energy saves you a few pennies in the long run. and radiation is higher in orbit than on the surface of earth.
this doesn't explain how they will get rid of heat, though...

>>108426636
can't believe he just invented Indian chips

>attach your ego and sense of worth to Elon
>be absolutely buckbroken every time he does some insane shit
I'm excited to watch him throw lots of money that isn't his at a clean room assembly facility he will never manage to get right then dude bro his way out of any consequences while all you retards endlessly argue about it.

>>108426722
>2030
>AI starts taking jobs left and right
>90% unemployment rate
>people are now planning to destroy data centers
>OH NO ITS IN SPACE.jpeg
>Elon smokes another fat blunt on JRE
while unemployed people are seething.

>>108443908
>this doesn't explain how they will get rid of heat, though...
Similar to the way they get rid of heat every other time, just larger and so more mass. It's more expensive to coll than on the ground, but not something impossible to do. It's what some potential future actually large constructions in space would need to do with a lot more power use, and not something more distributed like the plan here.

>>108427129
>microsoft can't even deploy 90% of its gpus.
Yep, that's why they're paying to restart the Three Mile Island nuclear plant.

>>108444187
>every other time
I'm willing to watch you explain how you think cooling works in a data center and then how you think it works in space.

>>108444215
I meant cooling every other time in space of other purposes. It's always going to be easier and cheaper to cool on the ground with anything else, even with limited water use.

>>108444268
>just slap a big plate on it, bro!
so you are saying you don't know anything about cooling servers or pressurized environments in space. got it.

>>108426636
ASML isn't selling to private citizens like Elon (or his toy companies)

>>108439459
It is unironiclly.
If you think SpaceX is some satellite kike then you never met the actual kikes.
>GSO satellite providers with 1000+ ms ping
>"traditional" ISPs that give fiber to cities but leave decaying copper dsl everywhere else ($150+ for 20mbps with a single 9 for reliability)
>Local WISPs who charge for access to a glorified wifi access point on a tower with a $10 charge per 50GB over the limit

>>108426636
I hope it's not another sour-cream and onion

>>108427129
Wattage is the metric when you know what chips you're running. A fab implies making your own chips, no? Is he suggesting he’s going to rival nvidia?

>>108444893
Difficult isn't impossible. It's a question of cost, and that's the real potential problem with the entire idea.

>>108426636
i am sticking with my i5 2500k

>>108433433
yeah those 4 million dollar interceptors will save the data centers in space from russia and china when they can't even stop iran from hitting israel

>>108426636
great, jeet chips with jeet backdoors preinstalled, what a great idea

>>108426636
>Elon announces he will start making chips
>makes token effort to do it
>realizes there is a reason there are like 3 companies in the world that can compete in this business and that achieving actual results is much harder than just posting about it on twitter
>produces some half-assed "proof of concept" that's barely usable
>declares mission accomplished on social media then tries his hardest to pretend none of the above ever happened
This is just going to be another hyperloop

>>108433254
The government will take it over if it does. It would unironically probably be far more useful for the DoE to have all that compute to themselves.

>>108426636
If all the servers are in space, how the fuck are they supposed to replace failed HDDs?
In a conventional data center, it's a five minute walk, and five minutes swapping out the drive.
Now it's going to take a six hour spacewalk? After a multi -million dollar manned launch?
What am I missing here?

>>108447739
Since it's not one large location and a lot of smaller ones, run each satellite until enough parts fail it's no longer useful. Replace them a satellite at a time. You aren't trying to maximize the use out of a building's available space.

>>108426673

That's how getting rich works. Just get lucky a few times in a row and have the whole game permanently rigged in your favor as a result. Capitalism, baby.

>>108426636
How does this impact his promise to land on mars by the end of the year?

>>108447780
Will they de-orbit the dead ones?

>>108447879
I don't remember seeing anything about the plans for when they die, but they are supposed to be low enough that's likely. With as many as they claim to plan on using, not deorbiting them would be a future problem.

>>108444163
Hitting shit in orbit is trivially easy.

>>108426636
before or after self driving cars and mars missions?

>>108436879
>he thinks LLMs store facts

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>>108433774
He should have invested in his son instead. Maybe he wouldn't be a massive faggot.

>>108426636
REJOICE, XITTERFAGS! ELON MUSK BOUGHT FRITO-LAY!

to be fair to elon, making chips in space isn't as retarded as it sounds. the fact that it's space should reduce contamination during wafer production which would help yield rates but at the same time you have to bring shit like argon from earth to space to manufacture so he's still massively retarded

>>108426636
Investment scam. There is no way anything comes out of this except maybe Elon gets a team that can make some shit RISCV chip but is in no way competitive.

>>108448507
His son literally got brain washed by diversity bullcrap telling him he could be a woman. He will never be a woman but was fed all of those lies telling him he could. You can't blame elon for that. I sometimes wonder if I might have befallen a similar fate if I were born when he was instead and had all of this woke nonsense in schools, etc.

>>108426722
>While the satellite internet was deemed infeasible due to costs
With bullshit calculations, or more usually no calculations at all.

>>108447739
>If all the servers are in space, how the fuck are they supposed to replace failed HDDs?
You don't use HDDs, you design everything to be reliable enough that you don't lose a significant amount of nodes over the economic lifetime.