Are art monitors a gimmick or worth it? At first glance they just look like regular displays to me that are more expensive because they come pre calibrated for color accuracy (which you can do yourself manually on any display). Any anons here own one?
>at first glancethank god professionals don't work by "first glance", and, since you clearly aren't one, you can fuck right off
>>108429758Seems like every board on this god forsaken site has that one anon that replies instantly to new threads with the most useless shit ever, get a job
>>108429744I only use them, from ASUS and BenQ specifically. Art/Studio monitors are the best if you want IPS.Otherwise go OLED. And no, go kill yourself with the burn-in memes.
>>108429764Not that anon but you and all the retards like you that flood the board with worthless threads like this should be euthanized pronto
>>108429744No one here is going to know. That’s like asking if driving a Formula One car is worth it when you haven’t even mastered a go kart yet. You can get decent color accuracy off a ThinkVision T24-i30 or one of those portable 16” OLED monitors off Amazon. Heck, if you’re really interested in drawing and color accuracy you could start with a used base model 2018 iPad Pro / Pencil combo off eBay.
>>108429764>if I post a garbage thread you MUST reply with a detailed, useful, and accurate answerhow about no and you go back to adding expensive monitors to your amazon cart just for the thrill of it even though you will never be able to afford them like the underage third worlder that you are?
>>108429744I have two of their 24'' models. They're perfectly decent LCDs but nothing all that special. I did test the pre-calibration with my Spyder when I first got them, and they are bang on accurate so that's nice. One thing that really annoys me, however, is the OSD. These things have seven face buttons, but it takes eight button presses to change the input. Outrageous.
>>108429764Almost.It's not just useless shit, it's almost always negative and insulting. It's bot-generated. It's not an 'approved' thread, you're an actual person with a real query, so you get this treatment. It's been going on for a while now.The only question is why, and there are two leading theories.Theory one is that it's intentional demoralisation. Bots with that purpose exist on some other boards, so it's not a huge stretch they're deployed elsewhere.Theory two is they're just trained on 4chan, but it's so toxic that it tends to generate toxic results. It could also be the case that Theory one bleeds into Theory two.Try not to let it bother you. In my experience you'll find initial responses to a new thread are overwhelmingly negative, but tend to positive over time. I've literally had threads before where the first dozen or so responses were like this, then real people showed up and a decent thread was born, hundreds of replies of reasonable discussion and bants.
>>108429744I think most monitors come calibrated out of a factory but the professional ones can be made to look exactly like the photo prints coming out of a specific model of a color printer, web content displayed on an "average" sRGB screen or a movie watched under known light conditions on some TV. They also give you much more reproducible results if you're looking to buy multiple monitors for an office.>are more expensive because they come pre calibrated for color accuracy (which you can do yourself manually on any display)You usually can't. Most monitors don't even cover 99% sRGB, it's impossible to keep them at dE2000 < 1.0 and trying to get them to be accurate results in massive amounts of gamut clipping and is a huge waste of time.
>>108429744I have 2, I like them.I bought them because I have the money and they looked better than the alternatives. Also I'm not a gamer so don't need the HHZZ
>>108429744I have one, it's pretty good. The color accuracy isn't the only selling point. For me it's also the hub, build quality and OSD.
They are ugly, I want to get apple monitor
>>108429744some are meme, literal office monitors in a fancy shelland some are real10 bit panels, atw polarizer, guaranteed backlight uniformity, hardware LUT calibration etc..the good factory calibration is one of the nice to have but not really 'the' reason to get one of thse
>>108429744>Are art monitors a gimmick or worth it?worth it>they just look like regular displays [that] come pre calibrated for color accuracyyou can calibrate yourself, but the specs of monitors usually do not account for itand on most "gamer" (or other retarded-people markets) ones, once calibrated the specs are megashit (eg dogshit contrast and brightness)while on "pro" monitor (assuming they are actually pro monitors and don't just have the moniker), the specs are *after* calibration, so you don't have to choose between "usable settings" and "good colors"btw you want this one, specifically https://www.asus.com/displays-desktops/monitors/proart/proart-display-pa27ucge/
>>108430936600 nits is a bit low.I have a proart laptop. The monitor is exquisite. 4k oled 120hz 1600nits.
>>108431157>oled>1600nitsgood, now see how long it will maintain it in 100% white screen
>>108429744>which you can do yourself manuallyIf your time is free and you already have all the hardwareA $50 spyder is only good to verify/readjust already known panel or match multiple panels to each other.To calibrate mystery meat from scratch you need $1000+ color spectrometer.
>>108431201for known backlight/channel spectrum it is trivial to compensate and displaycal automatically loads uploaded compensationsthough the quality of the compensation is not guaranteed, better than nothing, spectrophotometer is not an absolute requirement, ymmv
>>108429744>"art" monitor>still retarded 16:9 ratio instead of 4:3 or 3:2...No excuse. They can go fuck themselves.
>>108431157>4k oled 120hz 1600nits.really? for sustained SDR brightness?cause I'm not aware of other comparable monitors with this brightness or higher, at all, aside from:- the 32" ProArts of the same lineup (iirc there's 2 of them, one that's a weird sidegrade, and one that's an upgrade but was 5x the price last I checked)- the new Pro Display XDR (which *is* objectively better, but is also 3-4x the price)>>108432079>>still retarded 16:9 ratio instead of 4:3 or 3:2...>No excuse. They can go fuck themselves.yeah, it sucks. but your options are sticking to 1080p monitors from 2009 forever, paying the Apple tax to get 16:10, or sucking it up for the sake of other objective improvements in the PPI and refresh rate areasand be glad that Asus still cares about quality for its ProArt monitor lineup, cause there is literally zero other manufacturer that does at the moment
>>108429744the asus pro art line is relatively usles.If one would need the professionality of a color accurate display they would chose differently. And if thats not the case any random monitor with srgb 100% and a color spider is the best middle ground.A little excurse on why: When working professionally with color you dont want to mess up the first parts of your signal chain your OS, GPU, drivers etc. Get a special DeckLink card (Avid or god forbid blackmagic jk :) ) so the system wont apply “optimizations.” The monitor should support an internal 16‑bit LUT to fix screen offsets use a ColorSpider and PC app to calibrate.That would be the first parts on to "dooing it right" I hope that made clear why those Proart Monitors and Benq line monitors are not the best. Sure if you want an out of the box solution its alright but they cheap out at the important points and are generally speaking to expensive for what they offer + i think if you want it to just work you wouldnt be asking /g
>>108431201No color spyder in the world can fix a bad panel. The production quality and checks should be high enough to ensure that. Factory calibrated is not a must. A good calibration takes ~15 min depending on the quality of the result. I hardly think they have the time for that in the factories. Also a hardware calibration by the end user is mandatory. Every color critical display should be recalibrated every 250 hours of usage time.
>>1084297441. An AI board 2. IDs and flags on /g/3. An actual effort by mods and jannies to delete and ban blatant marketing and ad shilling4. Banning Apple posting 5. Banning e-celeb posting 6. Banning X screencap posting That would be a good start
>>108429744I use one for my 2d and 3d projects. It has more lighting consistency around the edges compared to a gaming monitor and it's great for reducing eye strain. The black levels are more visible on these monitors, so darkness looks more pixelated and visible when you play video games/movies/pictures. These monitors are also limited to like 75hz, not meant for fast gaming, thought you could still play them, you also have to set it to game mode when playing certain fast paced online games for better visibility.
>>108431170Ah yes exactly what I bought an OLED monitor for
>>108432973>be glad that Asus still cares about quality for its ProArt monitor lineup, cause there is literally zero other manufacturer that does at the momentwhatalmost no one thinks about ASUS when looking for a color-accurate display, mainly because Eizo and NEC have been dominating that segment since before ProArt was even a thing
>>108434933>mainly because Eizo and NEC have been dominating that segment since before ProArt was even a thingsorry, forgot to state the obvious so imagine I appended "if you're not willing to spend $5K+ per monitor" to my sentencethe amount of value you get for $800-ish (depending on local taxes, currencies, etc.) is what is unmatched
>>108433294>These monitors are also limited to like 75hzuntil recently: https://www.asus.com/displays-desktops/monitors/proart/proart-display-pa27ucge/they do 4k144 on those now and it's so comfy
>>108429744The pro art oled costs like $3k, so /g/ is really not the right place to ask about it
>>108429744you can still get them in 16:10
>>108429744Most of them suck shit.>b-butThey suck shit. The ones that are worth it for either content creation or gaming cost four figures per monitor and you will still need to have your own calibration hardware and know how the fuck to use it. In other words don't bother you will just burn a lot of money and accomplish nothing.
>>108429744all calibration goes out the window if your room is a different brightness to the room they calibrated in
>>108429867Is this anon correct?I was dubious but this thread has gone exactly how he said, and now I'm noticing it on other threads and boards...
>>108429867stop the crap, morpheus
>>108429744I've been using their 16:10 proart monitors for nearly a decade now. I don't do as much video and photo work as I used to but they've served me well. If you're not an artist in a huge studio then you don't need their super expensive stuff. Their sub $500 options are good enough. For gaming, coming pre-calibrated is great and it helps some games look much better by default. I've basically never felt like using Reshade for games like Skyrim, Fallout 4, or FFXIV where people commonly complain about those titles looking washed out. Like someone already said, they can do high refresh rates now, and even the niche 16:10 monitors can do 100hz.
Color accuracy seems like a total scam. Like why does it matter if everyone else's screens is calibrated differently?You'll get it to look "right" and then everybody will see it "wrong" because their screens don't work like yours. "Art screen" should be calibrated to match the most widely used screens.
>>108429744>that are more expensive because they come pre calibrated for color accuracyEven bog standard Dells come factory calibrated to sRGB.
>>108439164>bog standardUltraSharp is Dell's equivalent to Asus' ProArt series
pre-calibrated is pretty useless. You'll always need a calibration tool eventually
>>108429744i've owned two, the more expensive one was utter piece of shit that got dimmer on the bottom half after like 4 years.the other one was pretty great and consistent, good colors though just srgb not argb or DCI p3.now my main monitor is an oled and yea i'm pretty happy with it.
>>108429833These are good for being 16:10, the button menu sucks though
>>108429744I bought ProArt, I love how accurate the color is.
>>108429744The whole point of calibrated, professional monitors is that "at first glance" isn't worth shit. People suck at absolute color perception. Also the reason these monitors are expensive isn't because they're pre-calibrated, but because they can display way more colors than a conventional monitor.
>>108429744The industry doesn't want you to know this, but most artists don't use any special art monitors
>>108429744They were worth it in 2010-2013 but then they cheaped out and just became a "premium" monitor for a not even that high of a price but the panel is just a regular ass panel you can find in budget monitors but it's CaLiBrAtEd
>>108429744Buy a QD-OLED if you want color accuracy. There's barely any contrast in LCDs.
you can't magically make your monitor produce more colors by adjusting the settings
>>108441326Except more than half of early ProArt and UltraSharp monitors were SRGB, while now any high HDR spec on mid-tier gaming monitor or TV requires wide gamut, however inaccurate it would end up.Uniformity/consistency was also bullshit, I used to run three ProArt PA246Q side by side and the white point even in SRGB / ARGB presets was visibly different out of the box.>>108438966It matters if you calibrate your cameras and printers too. Don't even need absolute color precision if your workflow is all integrated, just make them match. Standards matter when you outsource your printing or make an actual movie for theaters all over the world etc.But yea a common mistake of retarded web content creators is not checking how it would look on shitty laptop TNs.
