>>108433447
The benefit of switching to Linux is "silencing the voices". Otherwise nope

>>108433447
You have to understand there are unironic elitist spergs here who think the world resolves around their niche OS vindication that has no use outside of extremely specific circumstance. Its almost like a fetish.

The time will come when windows implodes for good and people naturally filter to linux if Mac OS doesn't change, however one of those OS's will become more akin to windows as per demand and everything will balance out again. dont worry about being forced to pick one, when the time comes itll be there.

>>108433447
there's literally no point unless you care a lot about custom UI

>>108433447
I've switched to Linux not so long ago. The only issue I've had with a peripheral was my racing wheel (which now works with the help of overdrive and a command line in terminal), everything else just worked (soundcard, bt peripherals, camera, 2.4hz peripherals, multiple screens, couple of usb hubs etc) but I may be the lucky one.
I switched because, I'd rather tinker with Linux than cleanup after Microsoft every time it shits the bed with its new update

>>108433447
You should only switch to Linux if you need it for some specialist purpose. You will gain absolutely nothing if your expectation is "like windows, but better". The Desktop linux base is a very small but vocal minority.

>>108433447
Costs nothing legally, customizable, secure, no forced online accounts, performs well even on old hardware they don't officially let Win11 run.

if you have to ask this you haven't been paying attention
microsoft has been enshittifying it since 2015, that impulse should be coming from you

>>108433447
So long as you install a "normal" distro like Fedora instead of an enthusiast distro the skill floor is very low but obviously you need to learn some stuff since linux is not windows. Reading your post I can't recommend switching to Linux for you. If you are switching you already know why and don't have to be convinced

>>108433490
/thread

>>108433447
If Windows is working out for you then just keep using it. A lot of people are getting hardware bugs, usability issues, performance problems and so on. If you're not affected by any of that, I don't see the point.

>>108433447
>click start
>wait
>wait
>menu opens

>click folder
>wait
>wait
>wait
>finally, file explorer

>right click a file
>short menu appears
>move mouse to the option you want
>long menu loads in, moving the options so now there's a different one under your mouse just as you click

Linux does not have these problems.

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>>108433447
It allows you to use cheaper and weaker hardware for a better performance because of less bloat out of the box.

>>108433447
>Is privacy important to you?
>Can you live without kernel anti cheat games?
>Can you live without ms365 and adobe?
If you have 3x NO, stay on windows. Otherwise Linux is really good and will probably change your life. I use a mac mini at work, but all my private machines are on Linux, but I still have a macbook air.

>>108433447
For me it was more of a necessity
>Windows 10 updates are no more
>Can't just buy another PC to upgrade to Windows 11
>Windows 11 is being vibe code and even notepad has vulnerabilities now
>Copilot everywhere
It's the second time I tried Linux and this time I was able to learn to use it and I really don't want to go back anymore. If you just want something that just works try some gaming distro or something simple like Mint. There are live USB isos that you can run the distro from it and test before deciding to install.

>>108434694
>Can't just buy another PC to upgrade to Windows 11
Why?

>>108433447
it's just is a better experience for me.
may not be for you, regardless i don't care, do what you will.

>>108434695
Because it's expensive? I have both a laptop and a desktop that couldn't update to windows 11. I have my desktop now with windows 10 just to play some games when I turn it on and I use my laptop with Mint now. I'm satisfied.

>>108434714
>Because it's expensive?
Oh right, I forget how this economy affects ordinary people.

>>108433447
Compile every single LKM yourself after giving the source code a once over. Memory, cpu, interrupt management, everything. Make a custom intramfs, Install gentoo. You're not going to let the devil into your computer right anon?

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>>108433447
In my anecdotal experience what linux offers is the
>"once correctly configured stays the fuck there without being an annoying piece of shit"
experience, that was my main reason for switching to it 20 years ago. It was enough for me to offset all the alleged advantages of the windows ecosystem. Obviously there's more to it, like having the system communicating errors in a human readable way (instead of error "hexadecimal shit number"), being more unix like (so you may find anything you need in some file instead of having it merged inside some giant monolithic piece of binary blob), being more space efficient (due to how packaging works is way more easy to partition the system without wasting disk space), and so on... In short it's a system way more maintenable and scalable, does what you configure it to do without complaining and makes YOU at the center as the sysadmin.
That said things are changing (the main distro are getting enshittificated to match windows level of shittiness) but the modular nature of the system allows for easily avoid the shit that gets added.

Now, if all you need is a machine for gaming / working on a single proprietary shit AND you don't care about anything else, as problems and features, stay on windows, i don't see why you should change or why i should give you any reasons for changing.

>>108433447
Do you like seeing ads on your lock screen?
And your start menu?
And your search menu?
If you switch to Linux those go away.

>>108435321
Do they remove all of these from the Pro version? I've never ever seen these ads.

>>108435305
This is actually really helpful, thanks. The reason why I even made this thread is because I've seen Linux shilling a ton in recent years, and I've heard rhetoric like "there's absolutely no reason to stay on Windows," and "Linux just werks out of the box now." But all of that shilling was in contrast to the typical shit like complaints about updates breaking stuff, compatibility issues, etc. So I guess I wanted actual straight answers.

>>108435305
>games don't matter goy, only (((work))) and (((productivity))) does

>>108435321
>If you switch to Linux those go away.
Along with a 'just works' system, nice fonts, codecs, Microsoft Office, your favourite programs, and probably a lot of your games too.

>>108435485
There are games on linux, easily 96% of them now work out of the box due to steam and proton, the image poke fun to the specifically, anticheat tpm protected, game the dopamine addict retards can't live without.

>>108433490
PRECISELY this.

>>108433447
OP hates hamsters

OP, I'm 6 months almost into using linux without dual booting, and let me tell you: use what gives you less resistance.
If Windows doesn't actually shit itself for you, it's idiotic to consider alternatives. You may find something that works perfectly or is an endless time waster. You might have the right hardware setup that works perfectly out of the box. You might just have a peripheral that is a pain to have fully working on linux. In my experience, honestly? I kind of want to go the fuck back.

>>108433447

If all you’re doing is gaming on your PC, you are effectively a lost cause. If your goal is to be a productive member of society, possibly in IT, you should stick with Windows and/or learn macOS with the help of MacBook Neo/Mini. Linux is for webservers and autistic people with a ton of time on their hands.

>tl;dr give it a shot. I need Microsoft to get their shit together so the more people who go to Linux the better.

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>>108433447
What do you use your computer for and how do you use it? Everybody's telling you their opinion but nobody's asking questions.

>>108433447
>Driver issues, peripheral issues, needing to understand a fucky terminal and have a bunch of techno jargon committed to memory, along with things just breaking every time you update shit.
None of that has been a thing in like ten years

Should I use windows or linux with top of the line pc? (5090+9800X3D+64GB RAM)

>>108436174
I'm just play games on my computer and browse the web. I don't do anything productive or L33T haX0r type shit.

>>108433447
There is no guarantee because most setups and needs are different.
Maybe you're this guy playing the same game every single day and just want a web browser and a bunch of simple tools. And for that purpose linux gets you a more responsive desktop and something just smoother overall without worrying too much. You can even use a "stable" distro where things don't change a lot.
But maybe you have a setup where you're constantly changing things around (outside of the OS itself) and you'll constantly hit walls. This can be a long term thing too, like you can spend several months on it without problems, suddenly you're looking for new hardware, and something you weren't worrying about on windows suddenly is a big concern on linux. Your choice is restricted by that.

>>108436329
>nvidia
they only accommodate for their users being total goyim so you should stick to windows

>>108433447
Windows is great for gaming, while Linux is great for security. You should use both.

If you're doing something sensitive, such as opening an email, it's safer to do it on Linux.
Windows has a lot of viruses, especially from the piracy scene.

>>108435305
>"once correctly configured stays the fuck there without being an annoying piece of shit"
I've had the opposite experience in these last few months. I feel like this only applies to stable distros. Let me explain:
>HDR finally well supported, doesn't work too well on GNOME, but at least on KDE Plasma it does
>Some time passes
>Suddenly half the games with it look like shit (blame Microsoft because of how they handle it?), need to use an environment variable to "fix it" at the expense of some other feature
>More time passes
>Update makes it so that there's more calibration options, supposedly fixes it
>Doesn't fix it and they actually revert that, it's now 2 pages of calibration again
>It works for a while
>Some newer update after there's some banding on screen with it
>Need to use a setting I didn't need to use before to get rid of it
This is constantly changing. I'm given two options: Not use the feature, reverting back to something older, or use it but have this thing worrying me every now and then.

>>108436407
If this matters to you, why didn't you choose a stable distro? That's why they exist.

>>108436407
When i say "correctly configure" i mean using the right component for the job, gnome, kde, wayland, pipewire, etc... are functionally unstable (despite using a lts snapshot) because they constantly introduce new functions. For having something that once configured "stays the fuck there" you need something battletested and conservative in development like xfce4, lxde/qt, lumina or a straight wm, xorg and pulseaudio/alsa.

>>108436540
I kinda pointed out why.

>>108433447
How the fuck should I know why YOU should switch to Linux? I switched because using Windows was cock and ball torture.

>>108433447
>Driver issues, peripheral issues, needing to understand a fucky terminal and have a bunch of techno jargon committed to memory, along with things just breaking every time you update shit.
None of this stuff is true if you pick a user-friendly distro. What you need to understand is there is like 500 different 'types' of Linux, known as distros, but even on one distro you can build it in different ways and change the desktop environment and change the file manager and display server so on and so forth. BUT ONLY IF YOU WANT TO BECAUSE YOU HAVE AUTISM.

For a normal person you just donwload Linux Mint, it works perfectly straight out of the box, it automatically works with all your peripherals already, it plays every single fucking game in existence on Steam now, you absolutely NEVER have to use the terminal or remember anything. You understand there are a million things you can do in the command prompt in windows right? But who actually uses it? You only use the terminal if you choose an autism distro that needs it, or if you want to (once you get to know it some things are easier to do there, which is why people still use it for a lot of things, not because they have to).

The important part is this - IF YOU CAN USE A COMPUTER AT ALL, YOU CAN USE LINUX EASILY. Linux is now EASIER than windows because windows makes you do a bunch of retarded shit with accounts and cloud shit and making you jump through all kinds of hoops to have your computer do what you want it to.

The specific distro you are looking for is called Linux Mint. I have heard Zorin OS is also beginner friendly, but I haven't tried it. I see no reason to use anything other than Mint. I am a turbo autist, I have a manual build of Arch on one laptop as well as having tried various others. But my main I will always and forever leave on Mint, because it is the best.

>>108433447
The benefit is that Linux doesn't pop up prompts for things you never want where the only options are "Yes" and "Later"

>>108433447
All new ASUS are now Linux OS.

>>108433447
pros:
- faster
- no telemetry
- can hibernate
- correct time

cons:
- most apps are exe and that's unsupported

>>108436358
>Linux is great for security
Retards need to stop with this meme.

>>108433447
Also a lifelong windows user here, since windows 3.1.
I have used linux. It fucking sucks. It will break. You will have to tinker. You vill use ze terminal despite anyone telling you otherwise. The file structure is retarded. It's overall just less intuitive. Midwits love it since it relies on more memory recall and they feel a sense of achievement and superiority for using it. They think anyone who doesn't want to use it is "lower iq" than them when this is often not true. Midwits gonna midwit.

>>108438840
Brutally true.

I find it better for programming.
I had to manage some small Linux servers so being forced to use Linux desktop made learning easier.
If you don't care about anything Linux has to offer, and you do care a lot about what Windows has to offer, then you will obviously prefer Windows.

>>108436358
Windows isn’t even great for gaming, games these days straight up run worse most of the time if you’re on AMD. They’ve been deliberately shittifying their RDNA3 drivers so they run worse in some vain atrempt to get people to upgrade. I have a 7900XTX, still the top of the line card for AMD, but if I try to play any games on windows they have lower average FPS, worse ray tracing implementation and they always have weird graphical issues. Darktide is borderline unplayable on windows because of the aggressive microstutters. People online say you need to go into the config files and turn off RT manually but at that point why even use windows?

We’re at a point now where windows is less stable, more invasive, more inconvenient, and runs worse than basically all Linux distros. Unless there is some extremely specific software you need to use or you want to play slop shooters then there’s no reason to use windows.

>>108438996
>Unless there is some extremely specific software you need to use
Yeah, real niche stuff like Office lol. There isn’t even a OneNote equivalent on linux. Linux is fine if you’re just doing webshit, living through your browser or tinkering away all day.

>>108439016
ms office is available via web
few people give a shit about shitty office software on their home pcs anyway

>>108439016
libreoffice is perfectly fine, if you need specifically microsoft shit then use their webshit
if you expect microsoft specifically to port it then you're a fucking delusional cultist
https://alternativeto.net/software/microsoft-onenote/

>>108439016
I use office at my work and they always just use the online version, that’s some cope.

>>108439110
kek, i assume because the web version of office is the only usable version
native office is like booting up visual studio, microslop somehow makes an ssd feel like a hdd

>>108439069
The web version is not equivalent. You calling it shitty doesn't change the fact that millions of people still want it.
>>108439080
LibreOffice is not an acceptable replacement, it's crap. The OneNote alternatives are trash. Again, why should I make compromises just for the privilege of 'running linux'?
>>108439110
Then your IT seems like a retard, is that you?

>>108439313
>LibreOffice is not an acceptable replacement, it's crap.
so you haven't tried it?

>The OneNote alternatives are trash.
lol
you're a retarded nigger that thinks alternative should mean the same exact thing you're used to with a different name

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>>108439069
>few people give a shit about shitty office software on their home pcs anyway
89 million customers in '25, up from 82.4 the year before.

>>108439313
>Again, why should I make compromises just for the privilege of 'running linux'?
nobody's asking you to. just enjoy your microslop

>>108439358
this means nothing

>>108439358
The world population went up by 70 million in that time so that level of growth kinda happens automatically
(until everything collapses, which will very likely be during our lifetimes)

The amount of lintard cope in this thread is actually unreal. People who have never contributed a line of code or even a cent to linux related projects get personally offended at even the slightest criticism. What causes this?

>>108439313
People use the web version of office because the desktop version just doesn’t work as well.

>>108433447
if Windows works for you anon just use it. There's a few privacy based reasons to switch and having a bit more control over everything. if you don't care about having absolute control over the system and prefer somethings be decided for you, whichyou seem to be content with, stay on Windows. If ever you decide you want things a certain way, that road will lead you to Linux.

>>108439838
The web version doesn’t have the same feature set, it’s fine for viewing. If a person can get by with LibreOffice then perhaps the Office online is sufficient.
>>108439883
Absolute control is stretch even on linux, you’re not realistically going to maintain forks of dozens of ad hoc projects due to time/ability constraints. Most linux users just use what they’re given by the distro. Even something less extreme like Gentoo exists on the fringe in the linux world.

For home use there is no difference between what Windows was and what linux still is. Win 11 has ads, runs like shit, and has AI features built in to track you more than ever thought possible.

Pick a KDE distro like Fedora and you get a similar file system, but with more control and customization options, and if you NEED games, Steam is on Linux with plenty of support for popular titles and indies titles alike. Better than Mac OS for gaming by a long shot

>>108439940
I agree, it's not 'absolute' for the average user. But it’s the difference between a walled garden and an open field. You aren't locked into Microsoft's telemetry or their hardware requirements. Even if you just use a distro's defaults, you're still opting out of the 'OS-as-a-Service' model where your data is the fee

>>108435480
Where you are confused is that you seem to think there is a singular operating system called 'Linux', just as there is one called 'Windows'. Linux is the kernel, it basically just interfaces with the hardware. So it will control the file systems, what gets to use the CPU and memory, I/O signals from your mouse or keyboard or other external hardware, etc.

On top of this layer you have a distro. This is like Ubuntu, Arch, Fedora, etc. This controls stuff like your software packages, how updates are handled, things like that. Then on top of that you have your desktop environment, which is what you interact with on a daily basis, and gives it the user-facing look and feel.

So you can choose your own kernel version, a distro which basically makes you choose every different component (some which might be incompatible with each other and break your install), a minimal desktop environment that looks retarded and needs to be heavily configured and comes with almost no software by default, maybe there is no package manager app so you need to install and update via the terminal, maybe your distro or desktop environment uses new and experimental features which might break things, etc.

This is for autistic people and people who want Linux itself to be their hobby. This is usually who you are hearing from when they say this and that broke and my speakers won't make sound and this or that compatibility issue, you need to run this convoluted list of terminal commands, whatever. I know, because I am one of these people, and for most people it is a waste of time. You also get beginners who have followed bad advice and tried to install a distro which is not user friendly, and quickly find themselves overwhelmed.

>>108440362
The alternative is to get a distro where everything works out of the box. The maintainers will choose the appropriate kernel version, desktop environment, and all the software you need to jump in and just start using it. They will have an 'app store' program to easily find new software which you know will be compatible, and you can just hit a single button to install. Depending which you choose, everything will look and feel very familiar to windows, but with less annoying shit. Everything is easier actually, and completely under your control if you do choose to customize. This is a more windows-like experience, but without all the problems that come with windows.

I hope this helps you to see the disconnect between these different things you have been hearing. They are talking about completely different things, so of course they will have different experiences.

Of course, we are still dealing with computers here, there will still be SOME issues which arise occasionally. I have had a total of two issues in all the years I used Linux, one was very inconsequential and the other was very easy to fix. Compare this to the issues you might have on windows over the span of YEARS, and I think you might find it is actually less. Using very niche hardware or poorly developed software causes more issues, but this is also the case on windows.

Some of the people complaining might be having very minor or easily solved issues like this but are complete fucking crybabies who have a tantrum if everything isn't absolutely perfect every time. I suspect in these cases they will say 'Linux fucking sucks, unusable, I'm going back to windows!', however in the case of similar issues on windows they would say the same, except be blaming it on the particular hardware or software which has the issue. So it would be like 'Logitech sucks, unusable, I'll never buy from them again!' rather than blaming windows for every single issue they have within the windows environment.

>>108440365
That leaves one more question - how do you know which distro is an easy one and which is a hard one? There are so many options. Once you understand that there even is a difference it becomes trivial. Just look up 'best beginner distro' or 'easiest to use distro' or whatever. Most people say start with Mint, Ubuntu, or Zorin OS, but there are others you can choose which should give you a nice well curated experience out of the box. The trouble is, a lot of the advice you see on this board is very bad. I frequently see people advise new users to start with Arch. Do not do this. Look it up and compare the different options if you want, otherwise just choose Mint.

One final point to consider is that microsoft stands to lose everything if the public perception catches up with reality. One of the most valuable companies in the world will be reduced to literally nothing unless the waters are muddied and people are kept ignorant. I don't want to blame all negative opinions of Linux on shills, but there is no doubt that they are worried right now and I am sure there is a certain element of image manipulation going on.

OK I tried pretty hard on this post and I think I covered all the main points, I hope this will help you OP and lead you to the correct path. Using Linux used to be a philosophical choice between going with your ideals but dealing with the type of issues you mentioned, or just doing what was easiest. Now that is no longer the case, a user-friendly Linux build is the objectively correct choice for the vast majority of computer users.

>>108433447
Windows 10 and up spends half of the time working against you, downloading things you didn't asked for, loading advertising you didn't asked for, scanning your whole filesystem for viruses and wasting your SSD that you didn't asked for and so forth.
You can stop it from doing everything, but it will be as complex as a linux setup.
Also AMD video chips work better on linux.
As someone that use linux, i would say that for you, using Win10 IoT on main machine, and Linux on a igpu AMD shitbox if you have one.

>>108440373
>microsoft stands to lose everything if the public perception catches up with reality.
>a user-friendly Linux build is the objectively correct choice for the vast majority of computer users.

The biggest problem with Linux is that it's filled with FOSStards like this joke, who'll just lie to you as though they're dispensing sage wisdom. This guy admits that linux is his hobby, but I'm willing to bet there's zero meaningful code contributions.

>>108439313
LibreOffice is objectively better than MS Office. My girlfriend uses MS Word for her job and she was trying to do some basic shit and couldn't do it. I was helping her to try to find it, but before I did anything just to be a smart ass I'd go on LibreOffice and show her how I can do it in LITERALLY ONE SECOND without any fucking around. I couldn't believe how badly they fucked it. I used to use Word all the time and it was perfectly functional, now it's a mess.

>>108440436
>objectively better
>states an anecdote
Retard.

>>108440427
>>108440443
Microsoft shill absolutely seething. Just furious while I sit here on my superior machine enjoying my time. Good luck brother, stick with windows if it works for you.

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>>108433447
I switched 25 years ago due to Windows XP's activation scheme. I just don't like the thought of MS telling me what I can or can't do with my own computer. There were ways around activation, but that's besides the point, I saw where things were going and I accurately predicted many of the things that have occured since.

One aspect that's nice about being in charge of my computer is that I do not have to buy new hardware just to keep using an up-to-date OS. I'm running a low-budget Pentium machine from 9 years ago and it still runs the same i3 + terminal + emacs setup it did back then. I am not forced to install any bloat, except the web browser that keeps getting worse thanks to Google.

>>108435487
I installed Pop!_os and didn't have to worry about any of that shit. Also installing fonts is easy. Better than windows now. I just saw a video today from with explorer crashing just for threatening to install a font.

Yeah sure 20 years ago the linux fonts were shit but it hasn't been that way for a long time on good distros.

>>108440474
So you're old and poor, I'm sorry life didn't turn out for you.
>>108440492
It's not even the fonts, those you can get, it's the renderer that sucks.

>>108433633

It's even smaller than what this anon is saying. The Linux user base is like one of those chihuahuas you can hear late at night that yaps a lot.

Comments like this >>108433490 proclaiming Windows will "implode for good" are pretty amusing. Windows will be relevant for decades to come because of all the proprietary software written for it. Maybe by the time this anon reaches the AMDrama Nexus retirement castle Windows will be running in a shell of some other OS. But even then it'll be relevant.

>>108440535
Any difference isn't noticeable in 2026

>>108440373
This was also extremely helpful. Another aspect of Linux which makes me hesitant to switch when I've been on Windows so long is that my PC is filled with extremely niche software from the early 2000's. Stuff like old visual novels which never got proper translations or re-releases, made exclusively for Windows. I doubt this kind of software would ever work even with Wine/Bottle. I also mod my games a lot, and a ton of the modding software I use has been configured for Windows. It just seems like a headache to switch.

>>108439988
windows' fee is also baked into hardware, data collection, built-in advertisements everywhere, AND comes with subscriptions to use software that isnt worth paying for. which is why the corpo os is a cancer

>>108440597
>because of all the proprietary software written for it.
Lintards will read this and reply:
>Huh, what software? I do everything I need in the terminal and browser. If you desperately need so-called 'engineering' software, use this <worthless> alterative.
>>108440623
>in 2026
These claims were also made in 2006, 2016, and you'll be lying about in it 2026 too. Very few people care about design and aesthetics in foss. When you projects raise money, instead of hiring designers, it's wasted on diversity initiatives and other such nonsense.

>>108440653
>built-in advertisements everywhere
Where?
>software that isnt worth paying for.
Says who? There's a post above showing 89 million home users pay for office.
>which is why the corpo os is a cancer
Corporations are the only thing keeping your hobby OS alive (but they mainly care about servers), because freeloading barnacles like you never contribute code or money.

>>108440659
*2036. The one thing I cannot decide is whether the linux desktop share will be 1% or 3% by then.

>>108440659
linux supports a lot more production/engineering software than you think

>>108440684
Can I ask why you're so invested in trying to contradict people telling you that linux won't work for them?

>>108440670
>Where?
trolling or blind
>There's a post above showing 89 million home users pay for office
normies will buy into whatever seems most convenient or comes preinstalled so this is a retarded statistic. microsoft's engineering has always been dogshit, they're just good at marketing
>freeloading barnacles like you never contribute code or money
citation?

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Where were you when x86 and linux was finished?

There's literally zero point to installing loonix when you can get real UNIX for $600.

>>108440702
just correcting misinformation, dingus. idgaf

>>108440707
Do you have any background in PCB design?

>>108440659
I never made those claims any other year. Certainly not in 2007 era. I dual-booted Ubuntu and Windows 7 for years. Linux was functional and fun but far less reliable and usable. Meanwhile Windows 7 was great.

Between then and now, the Linux experience has, by and large, gotten steadily better. So if you're a programmer or work in any technical field that doesn't require proprietary windows-only software, the Linux experience is the best (though many still use Mac). Meanwhile, Windows has just gone to utter shit. In return for a handful of bleeding edge cosmetic features and "windows exclusives" like the Adobe suite, you get terrible performance, constant bugs and wierd-ass behavior (there's an app I use on windows 11 that only appears as an unmovable window at the bottom layer, requiring me to minimize other windows to access it. And sometimes I need to use it with a window that demands to be on top, meaning I have to slide the window halfway off the screen to access the dialog box that's under layers of other windows. It's ridiculous and completely indefensible. Windows 11 is an utter shitshow)

>>108440721
>linux doesnt x/y/z pcb software
>therefore it only supports terminal and browser
???

>>108440705
>deformed finger
Couldn't they at least finder a nicer nig-hand?

>>108440736
You're missing the point. You're not in a position to correct 'misinformation' because you're not qualified to give an opinion. So when someone states a specific need for a type of software, someone like you should shut the fuck up, because you know nothing (and would probably like to know less). Instead, because you're retarded, you give throwaway lines like
>linux supports a lot more production/engineering software than you think
Oh ok, thanks for that dimwit.

>>108440755
sooo linux supports only terminal and browser isn't misinformation?
nobody cares about whatever niche software you need retard, if you cant switch you cant switch. always been a case by case thing. and welcome to 4chan, where everything is a throwaway line

>>108433447
You shoukd switch your gender intstead.

>>108440624
I think WINE can be hit and miss, but I never tried it. Maybe it will work fine, maybe it will be more trouble than its worth. If you really WANT to switch to Linux then you could try running a virtual machine, which I believe should work with pretty much anything but I never tried it, or do it with dual boot.

I had a bunch of music software that I didn't want to run through WINE because I can't afford to have any latency, so I kept one laptop with windows which I only use for recording music. Obviously not everyone will have two machines they can use in such a way, but that works for me with the least amount of fucking around.

>>108440755
Most of your half of the argument is a hallucination in your own head, anon. Nobody made a specific point about software they needed that was windows-only. In the specific post chain there wasn't even the usual BS about how badly paper-pushing parasite class needs the real version of MS office because reasons.

>>108440659
>Very few people care about design and aesthetics in foss
GNOME: *exists*

>>108433447
>Can anyone explain to me what possible benefits there are to switching to Linux?
besides full system governance? it's just different.
I got sick of Windows and I wanted something different, so I switched. I still use Windows sometimes, my pc is very fast so switching isn't a huge deal. most of my time is spent on Linux. I ought to measure that, actually.

>>108440895
I legitimately cannot tell if this is pro or anti GNOME.

>>108440916
>I ought to measure that, actually.
Hour 1: Ran neofetch, posted on 4chan
Hour 2: Watched anime
Hour 3: Ran screen fetch
Hour 4: Updated my packages, spent time fixing things.
Hour 5: Browsed 4chan, saw a new distro
Hour 6: Wiped drive clean (no data) and hopped to it, posted on 4chan
Hour 7: Don't know Rust but posted about it.
Hour 8: Formed an opinion on systemd, although not sure what it is.
Hour 9: Anime.

>>108441007
tbf i prefer tiling wm. but they do obsess over their design like lunatics, they'd prob have me if i was a normie

>>108441022
Lot of work for a post that isn't even funny. More of a look into which /g/ memes are squatting in your headspace right now.

>>108439016
>There isn’t even a OneNote equivalent on linux
There isn't even a OneNote equivalent on Windows, for god's sake, I wish someone made one

>>108441110
Too on the nose?

>>108433447
very little difference between 'modern' OSs all heavily cloud and update culture dependent, all exploited and saas and cloud orientated. You should focus more on getting an offline lan where you can run whatever you like populated with storage, operating systems, media and software that requires no internet connectivity to do what you enjoy and which is zero security encumbrance, update free and truly secure. If you want to use linux or windows there it's all good but your mistake is thinking that there is any difference between online connectivity orientated current day operating systems or their allied could shit be it seam, onedrive, google drive, spotify, github, AWS, azure, googlr playstore, apple store, amazon prime, youotube premium, youtube music, twitter, facebook, linkedin, reddit, discord, telegram, signal, teams, whatsapp, instagram, etc etc etc

It's all shit.

Offline LAN frst, then put whatever operating systems you want on it, or as many as you like.

>>108442459
>shit be it steam onedrive, google drive, spotify, github, AWS, azure
typo fixed

>>108441343
I'm standardising on office 2007 for windows 7, office xp for windows xp and libre office for SUSE, wordstar for CPM, Tasword for spectrum etc etc
I managed to activate a legit copy of 2007 yesterday offlined using it's retail key, the phone activation is gone but you can access a webpage msft have and get the response code from it

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I retract my previous statements. If you're a Windows addict, stick with Windows.
If you're a Linux addict, stick with your OS.

Trying to convince other people to switch is like trying to convince people to go vegan. Only 0.00000000000001% will switch, and they'll switch back immediately after a while.

I am ricer. I love ricing my windows but since windows 10/11 it gets considerably harder and no one even bothered to do that anymore. KDE suits me so much I love it
I can even use a console version of Spotify now because the default UI is so fucking ugly
There's no downside in switching especially now
Stuck on something you can't fix? Just ask your AI of choice
Gayming? Proton and Steam got you covered

>>108442514
I use both I loathe pretty much everything released in the last 5 years and view with suspicion anything 5-10 years old. Can I convince you to try CPM just to play Zork as nature intended?

>>108442549
Ah so you use linux as a cloud portal decice to access your remotely athenicated IDs and on your steam cloud service while listening to your music on your spotify cloud service. I see.

Fuck sake.

I feel like I am screaming into a void when I see posts like yours.

>>108442514
I’m a vegan (switched in 2017), I use windows btw.

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>>108436572
Your message made me laugh for a good while, thanks anon.

>>108442565
Why do you care about how people use their device? If you are worried about cloud service just disconnect your internet and stay in the fucking cave.

>>108440705
based

>>108433447
Windows does everything. So people do everything with it, and they turn the instances of this systems in messy garbage yards without a semblance of order and discipline. And it's fine, but some people like everything they touch to be neat, in place and under control.
And see? IMO Linux systems dedicated to a narrow array of tasks are small, tidy, efficient, and if such a system's made there's little temptation to make it do everything. Yes, they require maintenance, but thanks to no bloat it's rather easy. Rather attractive from a goal-oriented point of view.