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>>108436037
crimson desert sucks anyway so amd is doing you a solid by making you not want to waste time on that if you bought radeon
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This fucking cable refuses to come off and anytime I try the connector wiggles what the FUCK how do I pull it out without it breaking the port on the mobo
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reminder the 50 series can't do path tracing at all and will be obsolete next year by the next generation.
the 9070 xt is the best cost to performance card this generation, if you buy an overpriced 50 series card it will be worthless in 2027 because everything is moving towards path tracing you will regret it.
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>>108436075
Yeah, I have had some tough ones in past builds. Maybe some pliers will help.
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>>108436037
>GPU
>nVidia
At least get the leather man to pay you in ai tokens, OP
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>>108436076
>Don't buy a 50 series because it cant do path tracing, but buy AMD because it is even worse in every way
Stop huffing exhaust fumes.
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>>108436075
>This fucking cable refuses to come off
It's called silicone grease, retard
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>>108436037
Why would I want to know how well a card plays crimson desert?
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>>108436076
Huh. Anyway.
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>>108436122
Why wouldn't you?
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>>108436076
You can't play Resident Evil the way it was meant to be played
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>[ 0.891491] mce: [Hardware Error]: TSC 0 MISC d01a000000000000 SYND 1d000008 IPID 500b000000000
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owari da, my 5900x is an 11-core chip now it seems
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>>108436075
I think you're supposed to gently bend it one way or the other, forget whether it is supposed to be towards or away from the motherboard, and that will help the plug disengage the securing tab while you pull it out.
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>>108436141
The 5090 is a beast.
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>>108436050
why link the nicotroon's bake ?
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>>108435646
I would have loved this lil fella back when I was doing SFF builds
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>>108436076
>9070XT has worse price to performance than a 5090.
Yikes.
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>>108436076
based on your chart, 9070xt has negative cost to performance because it's already outdated 2 years ago
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I bought two 24tb hard drives before things went to shit for the purpose of backing up anime/media and vidya on them
Should I put them in a NAS or should I just raw dog both of them in my pc and use a hard drive for each?
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Everyone stopped worrying about the prices of DRAM once it became clear that the oil and gases used in various processes to produce that DRAM is going to cease to exist for the foreseeable future. If you didn't build a PC last year, you're never building a PC ever again except from salvaging PCs from abandoned homes during the upcoming World Resource Wars.
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https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-ultra-7-270k-plus/
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-ultra-5-250k-plus/
250K looks good
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>>108436368
right here, i haven't had a desktop in 15 years and i'm buying up a few parts to accompany my brother's old ones which were handed down to me
i don't even know if i actually need one right now but it'll be nice to have
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Any fellow non-poors here?
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>>108436141
Genuine question, how well does RE9 run on the 5090 if you play on 4k with path tracing on native without any frame gen or anything? 125fps doesn't seem like much considering it's being upscaled and using framegen.
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>>108436433
Yeah I was sitting here dooming over the tech apocalypse with everyone else but then remembered I make a shit ton and if my still new 5090 or something ever died on me I'd have enough in my bank to buy a dozen more by the time that happened
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>>108436076
It can't do it bc no vram
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>>108436433
>he forgot to sensor his details
mamamia
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>>108436375
seems good
remember ticktock
this is the tock
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>>108436517
Unfortunately the classy cases are usually expensive because they're considered tasteful and high class
Aesthetics get a premium price tag, see all white builds
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>>108436433
Based pizza enjoyer
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INTEL WON
INTELDOMINATION
INTELSANITY
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>>108436537
it's based on the same arrowlake arch so it's actually a tick

nova lake is the next tock
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seems decent

most people would be fine with 250k
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if my 9800x3d dies i might get one of these instead
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>>108436638
You have an AM5 board, get an AM5 compatible CPU.
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>>108436608
its not node shrunk so it's a dick
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>>108436704
why would i use the same board that kills my 9800x3d (assuming this does happen)? i've seen the same board kill multiple cpus so i wouldn't take that risk
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>>108436708
you're right arrow lake was the tock and everything following so far is a tick (that includes nova lake)
the next tock is idk
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amd low end 6/8 core cpus dont make sense to buy when the competition has >50% better multicore
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>>108436638
Looks promising figuring I have an extra intel board I got scammed into buying as a New Egg bundle.
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>>108436704
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Why doesn't Intel do long platform cycles? They could Take back all of the marketshare if they did that.
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>>108436787
they will now that they use advanced tsmc nodes

in the past they constantly needed to up volts to maintain perf increases gen on gen and that required constant platform upgrades due to their fab failures
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>be Intel
>release new CPU lineup that is very good and compelling
>but wants very top end memory speeds to get the most out of it
X3D is going down in the history books as AMD's best investment ever made in their consumer side products. Any arguments to it being less important than just the Ryzen moment in general?
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>>108436076
2027? Nvidia isn't officially coming out with consumer cards until 2028 due to memory shortage. And now thanks to israel attacking iran and higher energy costs in asia try forever. Whatever computer you have now is your last computer.
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>>108436787
intracompany inertia, mostly
they are listening and lga1954 is gonna be around for a long while
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>>108436799
are you sure about that
has anyone tested with a 6000 cl 30 kit?
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>>108436799
>>108436834
HUB tested 8200cl40 against 6000cl30 and there was less than 4% performance difference between both kits
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>>108436841
That's what I expected. Intel CPUs have never really scaled that much with different ram speeds. And you won't have to deal with 15 minute memory training sessions on intel either.
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>>108436638
I can't wait for next gen intel. I think it will be a real performer.
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>>108436854
for multicore they have perf per dollar winner now
its perfectly viable cpu now
amd is still an obvious winner for x3d gaming perf at lower wattage, but their non-x3d chips are redundant
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>soon i can go back to idling with 30c temps and not 50c with this fuckass 9800x3d
NOVA LAKE
BRING ME HOME
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>NO MORE RANDOM USB DISCONNECT SOUNDS
>NO MORE STUTTERS WHEN I HAVE STUFF RUNNING IN THE BACKGROUND
I CANT WAIT AIYEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>108436917
this gen is irrelevant since people arent gonna migrate from am5 to intel and the ram situation being fubar means very few will build a new pc using this intel platform
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I just watch the BG3 part of the reviews and smile smugly with my 5800X3D
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>>108436917
>No more shit I made up
FTFY sanjeet
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>>108436946
I want to see some real world tests with DLSS/FG and ray/path tracing because the 1080p benchmarks are useless for most people in 2026
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How much of a performance loss am I looking at if I use DDR4 with a 12th gen intel system? An i5 12400f and H610 DDR4 motherboard is like $225 brand new right now. I have 4x 8GB sticks of DDR4-2133MHz that I pulled from some OEM systems for free.
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>>108436956
HUB review had medium and ultra, which changed some results
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if people cant even get amd to work then they wont be able to get intel or nvidia to work
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>>108436037
anything interesting coming out this year or will my pc continue to gather dust while i do everything else on my laptops...
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>>108436953
jeet = victory, conquest, triumph
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>>108437007
Pragmata
Ace Combat
WH40K Dark Heresy
Blood of the Dawnwalker
Dragon's Dogma 2 DLC
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>>108437007
Silent Hill townfall
I literally can't think of any other game
There's 6x mfg coming out at the end of the month and dlss5 in the fall, those should be interesting to see.
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I have a 3600. Is there any chance of prices dropping later on the year for something to upgrade? I remember some time ago seeing a 5800XT on Amazon for dirt cheap, something like $130. I didn't buy then, so I missed my chance
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>>108437007
crimson desert just came out
mh wilds is getting an expansion this year
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>>108437037
supposedly AMD is talking about doing a 2nd round of 3D CPUs released for the AM4 socket due to how bad RAM price sare. Might want to hold off until then.
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>>108437020
>Dragon's Dogma 2 DLC
Cycle is eternal so is my hope
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How do I stop fearing using my pc I spent a lot of money on
All I can think about is every time I do something with Windows it's writing to my 4tb m.2 ssd withering away its life
Or playing cyberpunk at 4k the 12vhpwr cable is frying like bacon in there
I am like paralyzed into not wanting to use this thing
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>>108436953
Right. AMD's largest global design center is in India. But good news for you they are hiring.
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NVIDIA FX 5700LE vs ATI Radeon 9600, both at the same price, which one should I get?
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>>108437090
You seem like a paranoid/neurotic.
Maybe you could seek meds for it, if its a case of some chemical action in your brain being unbalanced.
If you want natural remedies you can seek basic hormone readjustment by exercising/jogging for an hour.
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>>108437090
1) it's all still under warranty
2) If something was going to fail spectacularly it probably would have done it out of the gate.
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>>108437090
give it a couple months and you'll get over it
>>108437109
>he needs meds because the entire internet is telling him his pc will explode everytime he goes online

No, don't say stupid shit like that. I was the same way because anywhere you go you'll see retards telling you your cpu will explode or your gpu will melt. The PC community is a fear mongering mess.

@ original nigga Those things may happen but at some point you have to realize that it's out of your hands if you've built your pc correctly. All you can really do is monitor the temps of things. If it still happens, it happens. Enjoy your pc while you can.
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>>108437090
It's like not driving your car because you want the tires to last. Then 10 years later you have dry rotted shit and wasted all your money on something that just sat there. Using your PC is getting your money back. Otherwise just buy a used tablet or $100 refurbished laptop to shit post.
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>>108437104
Anon, find 9700 Pro, 9600 is ass. FX is even worse.
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>>108437149
>find 9700 Pro
It costs more than double
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>>108437104
nvidia has more pixel fillrate while ati has more memory bandwidth. they will trade blows until you enter a bottleneck scenario for either.
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>>108437160
No wonder it's almost double the performance.
If you want to gamble try unlocking 9500 Pro into 9700 Pro.
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>>108436433
wow, isn't that cheap?
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>>108436037
I'm still buying Reva.
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>>108437205
If you're unironically into whatever the fuck this is you need to consider suicide.
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Planning to do max fan setup. Looking up for Fan reccomdations.
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>>108436627
Anon, 2500k was the GOAT, now they simply removed the 0 at the end.
We've come full circle.
Shame it's a DOA platform, but if you upgrade your PC rarely it doesn't matter much.
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>>108437225
just straight performance and good warranty/cs support? noctua
want some rgb? sl infinities from lian li
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>>108437224
Sorry that you're gay and can't appreciate rasterization babes.
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>>108437237
almost nobody just replaces the cpu when upgrading. its always mobo + cpu
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Realistically how viable is being a small time G4P to get a PC? Only doggy so I can pretend its a girl pegging me.
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>>108437281
or....you can just get a fucking job retard
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It's been a long time since I've formatted any disk. I'm going to replace my current SSD with one of these in my windows 7 rig. From my understanding, these come 'pre-prepared' to mostly run on 10+ rigs so I need to download some program to restore the disk to default factory settings, and I should be good from there on, right?
Is there any "formatting for dummies" like a website or list or something to streamline the process (of formatting)? I'm just thinking out loud, like thinking of making a list of essential programs I need to redownload, redistributable files for vidya, etc. Thanks for any advice.
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>>108437292
Amazing idea!!! Are you offering one? Because if not fuck you, you really think I didn't try already? And no I will not work at Walmart for a year to buy a stick of ram, at least G4P pays well.
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>>108437224
radeon used to have ruby and now they have reva.
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>>108437332
I miss GPU boxes having cool art renders .
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>>108437313
Any OS with TRIM should be able to run on SSDs just fine, Windows 7 has TRIM.
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>>108437332
>>108437341
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>>108437382
msi being chinky here
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Should I buy a 270K Plus or wait for Nova Lake? I am running a 5800X
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>>108437432
Wait for Nova Lake for sure. GL finding a DDR5 memory deal.
It might be a long wait btw, don't be surprised if it launches after summer 2027.
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>>108437432
nova lake is like the end of next year. who knows what prices will look like by then. i'd just buy now.
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>>108437440
>>108437446
The duality of man
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>>108437449
waitfagging in the ai era is a fool's errand
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Where can I get the amdxcffx64 dll?
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>>108437432
the 270k is a very good buy right now but since you framed it that way I expect nova lake to be such a step up that it's hard to flat out recommend. but as others said it's going to be a long wait so it'll be a personal preference thing.
that said if someone were building for the long term right now i'd have no reservations about recommending either of the new intel chips which is quite a change
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>>108437432
Buy dome decent DDR5 first then decide. Either way if you can snag a deal it will still be useful whatever you upgrade to.
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>>108437242
Noctua doesnt have reverse
They look ugly too
And worst of all. They are redditcore.
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>>108437811
Based.Fuck Noctuadditors
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anyone still just use a password? :)
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>>108437090
If your SSD isn't dogshit, it will last way past the TBW.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlEO2mdJFRo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFPIrtPCtZ4
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>>108437090
Your phone uses the same memory as an SSD. Are you paralyzed when using your phone? Just think of it as a phone then.
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>>108437237
Who's the 2500k of the modern era?
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I'm looking for a high airflow 140mm fan for intaking air into my case. Is the Pure Wings 3 a good choice?
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>>108436433
mama mia
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>>108437914
I don't think there is one.
2500K overclocked easily by 50%, OC is dead for modern platforms.
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why are japanisu sluts like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5NSqc0SDRI
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>>108437914
the 270 ultra plus or whatever the fuck it's called
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https://youtu.be/vif8NQcjVf0?t=6526

Jensen says GeForce is still their #1 marketing strategy. Safe to say it's not going away anytime soon.
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>>108438001
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>>108438001
oh shit he actually asked jensen about dlss 5 and how it makes games look like ai slop LOL
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>>108438001
>>108438016
https://youtu.be/vif8NQcjVf0?t=6663
JUST OFF THE PRESS
JENSEN SAID YOU CAN TRAIN YOUR OWN MODELS FOR DLSS 5
DLSS IS SAVED
HOLY FUCK
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>>108438027
You can't train shit to not stink
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How much DDR5 and SSDs did my fellow anons stack? I got an extra set of 32gb, 64gb ram and a 2tb gen 5 ssd as backup.
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>>108438027
Wow modding will never be the same. Path traced fat tits incoming.
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>while Lisa Su was kowtowing to Sam Altman, Intel was cooking
Nice.
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>>108438040
Because of my rampant ocd that caused me to build sff pcs regularly I have amassed 8 sticks of 16gb DDR5 ram, 4 sticks of 32gb ddr5 ram, 6 2tb nvme ssds, 2 4tb nvme ssds
At the time it felt stupid and like I've got mental problems but they were a good investment in hindsight given the current circumstances
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>>108438027
kinda weird jensen says things that the interviewer doesnt react to in any way
>skyrim is great coz mods
>oh nvidia loves mods, we have this rtx mod tool
>anyway, so as I was saying skyrim is great because I can mod it, now lets move on
....
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>>108438083
because lex is a russia plant with no real emotions or interests and has said that thing about loving skyrim or whatever over a thousand times now

i dislike him immensely, but he interviews powerful people
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>have a sugar momma/sugar baby situation going on
>already living with her, she cooks, cleans, I get a place to stay close to university
>she noticed me looking up parts and what not
>just offers to buy whatever I want
>jokingly tell her a top of the line PC is going to be like $10k, no way, i'm good
>tells me not worry, just get whatever

I'm probably going to have to eat a lot of pussy, but is the RTX 5090 worth it?
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>>108438083
Lex is a fucking retard midwit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoWfTc7WRzM
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>>108438099
>Be Muttian
>Have 3 jobs
>Still can't afford RTX 5090
>Be European
>Live off welfare
>Can afford RX 9070 XT
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>>108438118
>>Be European
>>Live off welfare
>>Can afford RX 9070 XT
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>>108438040
>>108438065
I built my system back when DDR4 was the new hotness. I have an i9-9900k, 128GB of installed RAM on 4x32GB modules, an extra 6x 16GB and 32GB RAM kits of varying speeds, and I don't have "extra" SSDs in the way that they're still packaged, but I have a 2TB Main NVME for OS, 2TB NVME secondary exclusively for game installation, and 2x 2TB SATA based SSDs for work space, backup, etc.

Honestly i'm not even a hoarder, but it's hard to pass up on a good deal. I bought a lot of this stuff in 2019 to 2020-ish. 16GB RAM kits were regularly going on sale for like $45, the SATA SSDs I mentioned are both Samsung's, both were $100 each. Fuck I miss old prices. This AI shit is AIDS
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>>108438118
If I'm going to be forced to use AMD GPU, might as well just get a fucking console. Imagine willingly buying and AMD GPU in 2026.
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>>108437432
Unironically wait, Nova Lake brings a bunch of cool stuff with it
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>>108438001
No shit. NVIDIA's been attracting non-gamers into GeForce because NVIDIA wants these guys to use their GPUs as professionals.
The gaming division also makes a shit ton of money.
NVIDIA's obviously maximizing data center GPU production, but they won't exit the gaming market for a very long time (if ever).

This is a similar reason why Apple released a $500/$600 MacBook Neo, it's about attracting future professionals to their ecosystem.
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>>108438283
FSR diamond is where AMD turns it all around.
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Desklet bros they are finally making an OLED for us
https://videocardz.com/newz/rumor-claims-samsung-display-is-preparing-24-inch-and-39-inch-qd-oled-panels-for-2027
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>p-pplease buy our game now, it runs better
https://borderlands.2k.com/borderlands-4/news/pc-performance-status-update/
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>>108438594
Perhaps they should have made it work at release?
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>>108438594
Too late Randy, will get it a couple of years when it is 90% off.
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>>108437189
It is for a Win98 PC, I already have a XP machine with a Pentium 4 at 4.2GHz and Radeon HD 5770.
Pretty sure either one can handle 1991 to 1999 games just fine.
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>>108438594
>avg
scam
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>>108438594
>this is about to get highly technical
>includes the most simple shit regarding PC gaming
I sometimes forget how ignorant the average consumer is about technology
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>>108438594
>720p low with a 2070 super
for some comic garbage? fucking redditgame
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If I get 120 fps at 1080p ultra with ray tracing. And then I change to 4k 60fps with the same settings, does this mean I was CPU bottlenecked at 1080p? It quadruples load by increasing resolution, and it decreases performance by a half only... what else could be going on?
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BUT WHICH IS WHICH??? How does this front panel splitter even work? Am I supposed to trial and error my way connecting the front power headers until I get the correct orientation or what?
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>>108436963
>DDR4 with a 12th gen intel
First hit on youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c2A50BRe0U
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>>108438901
The answers are right there.
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so hijacked fr*gnigger op is fine when its about green brand?
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>>108438594
glad it'll work even better whenever I feel like playing it again
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>>108438982
Can it really be called a hijack when the only reason nicotroon bakes is by out-spamming?
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Is spending money on silent switches from Huano/Kalih and resoldering them onto your mouse worth it over just buying a Logitech M220 Silent or Lift?

Thinking it might be better to resurrect my fleet of mice with loud switches that work or partially work, but I don't know if MMB can be made to have a lower actuation force on these by changing the switch or not. And I have no idea which will have dots or rectangles so I gotta buy like 10 of each switch for 10 dollars.
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>>108438970
I don't understand what area the lines are pointing to in the split adapter diagram and why it shows six pins. I'm just going to assume the rows are accurate and that its 2+2 on each side.
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>>108438027
>a 5090 to run the game
>a second 5090 to run dlss5
>a third 5090 to train the model for dlss5
>a fourth geforce card from previous gen for full physx support
nvidia bros we eating good
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https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1s1rx7e/12_minutes_of_starfield_footage_with_dlss_5/
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IT'S SO FUCKING OVER AMD BROS
INTEL SELLS MORE CORE FOR LESS
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>>108439368
the crazy thing is it's comparable in terms of gaming performance and then it shits all over the 9800x3d and even the 9950x3d in multi core lol
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>>108439368
reminder that this is 4nm vs 3nm
intel has a considerable node advantage here and it's still unimpressive to buy into that socket that's living on borrowed time
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>>108439368
do i need a 1600W psu to power it? also why can't intel design a platform that is going to last more than two years?
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everyone is impressed by arrow lake with a factory overclock lmao
this thing still has dogshit latency at stock
we've been telling you this for years, you can extract significantly more performance out of intel CPUs than what they deliver at stock settings
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>>108439432
>we can't make good cpus but they overclock good and are cheap
sounds like amd with their gpus
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>>108439437
AMD GPUs might overclock well if they actually gave you the option to try
with anything past vega AMD is cucking you and it's literally just two sliders in adrenalin
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I don't give a shit about cpus for gaming
the only time I've been impressed by a cpu upgrade was when I got a 3d cache CPU specifically for modded Skyrim
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>>108439451
AMD is the one hitting 3.3ghz on their 9070xt while 5070ti croaks past 2800mhz effective and have to report a fake target clock.
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4090 and 6000 pro owners are the only people I respect

t.5090 loser
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>>108439451
don't know that is just the cope i remember from the vega days. it still holds true with intel and their cpus tho. if you can't package hardware with a well tuned profile for everyone there is a reason for that. your product sucks.
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>>108439468
that's great but it already does like 3ghz at stock so it's not a massive difference
no more BIOS mods since RDNA2
no more MPT since RDNA3
cucked GPUs
>>108439480
>if you can't package hardware with a well tuned profile for everyone there is a reason for that
yeah the reason is that it has to work for normalfags in minimum spec prebuilts
shouldn't be a concern for anyone posting in this thread
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>>108439368
imagine the face of the person who runs user.benchmarks
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Any reason not to get this monitor?
Seems like a really good deal.
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>>108439552
>OLED
>refurbished
Get ready to get a monitor with the Windows taskbar and PornHub logo burned in.
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>>108439507
>it has to work for normalfags
yeah that is cope. why can amd make better cpus that work for everyone than intel then? wouldn't they have both the same problems? what makes intel so special now?
>inb4 everyone buys amd now so it doesn't matter
it would matter even more than to have well tuned and running cpus out of the box to get some market share back. the cope of you can just tune it doesn't work since both companies want to make money and not cater to autists. both are after the plebs to make the most money to make better cpus to make even more money.
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>>108439552
would you kiss another mans wife after he just finished ass to mouth??

don't buy a used oled
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>>108439570
>>108439577
It's factory refurbished meaning it has a new screen.
And has a 2 year warranty.
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>>108439368
hahahahahaha that 285k fag is about to hang himself
you know the one with the i could have bought a 5080 but got a 5070ti rog can't return it now corrosion edition
should have bought a 9800x3d
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>>108439571
>why can amd make better cpus that work for everyone than intel then?
they can't, there's a significant difference on AMD from overclocking as well
but intel suffers particularly badly right now since they have really powerful cores with small caches so if you pair them with slow memory they can't reach their full potential
>it would matter even more than to have well tuned and running cpus out of the box to get some market share back
i agree with you
but they would need to ship overclocked RAM as well, with tight subtimings
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>>108439597
bold strategy of intel to make cheaper cpu but require more expensive ram
very bold indeed
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DLSS5 in motion. Radeon-tards btfo
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>>108439609
It looks even worse kek
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>>108439607
yep, but this is what they have to work with, i assume they don't have access to TSMCs 3D stacking tech
and you're wrong if you think you need to buy RAM with a sticker that says "8000 MHz" for it to actually work at 8000 MHz
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>>108439628
again it comes down to plebs. they could work with mobo makers and make xmp extreme profiles for certain kits.
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NVM THEY ARE TRASH
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>>108439635
sure
but i don't work at intel and you don't work at intel so that's none of our concern
still don't think arrow lake is a good product, just get a 9950X3D if money isn't a concern, or 14th gen if you're on a budget, but it's funny to see everyone freaking out over a small factory overclock
you can do much better than that at home for free
>>108439652
do they say what benchmark/map they're using?
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Jeetel shills ITT
>Please sarr buy cope ultra plus sarr it very good value sarr
>You only game on your PC sarr but look at all these benchmarks for production work you don't do very high number sarr!!
>Please buy into our dead socket that will be abandoned in a year or less when nova lake comes out sarr
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Any opinions on this monitor?

$400 for a 32" 4k Mini-LED seems like a really good deal.
But I've been disappointed by Acer monitors more than once before.

I hate monitor shopping so much.
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>>108439745
1152 dimming zones seems low for 32" that amount is already barely not enough for 27"
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>>108439785
Just to add, especially since area grows as the square of distance, the area each miniled occupies grows disproportionaly larger than the screen's diagonal
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>>108436799
AMD's processors have needed super high RAM speeds to work their best for years. It's not bad just because Intel is doing it now.
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>>108439795
>>108439785
>1152 dimming zones seems low for 32"
That's what I was thinking, too.

But I really don't want to drop over 1,000$ on a new monitor.
My choices are between the 4k MiniLED and >>108439552, a 1440p OLED.

I have one 32 inch good OLED monitor already. But I want a second display that I won't have to worry about burn in with, for my daily computer stuff.

Which monitor would you pick?
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>>108439829
get a tcl miniled
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>>108439609
>>108439625
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>>108439836
Any suggestions as to which one?
I've read a lot of reviews and no one seems to speak highly on TCL monitors.
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>>108439829
>Which monitor would you pick
Sorry if I'm not helpful but I've been looking to upgrade my 1080p144Hz VA I "temporarily" got (back in 2022) since last year, and until now I haven't found anything worth buying. I guess I just don't want to spend my money if something doesn't convice me 100%
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>>108439853
r94 if you want a 27", r84 if you want a 32". Both sold by best buy so you can use membership for 60 day return period.
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fuck framerate niggas
obtain latency bitches
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>>108439745
dont fall for the mini led monitor meme either get an ips or oled, if you really want a mini led get a 65" bravia 9
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>>108439652
I swear to god 9800X3D is like outer space alien technology.
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>>108439853
>no one seems to speak highly on TCL monitors.
If I remember correctly they are chinese and everyone buys tcl because they are cheap. Since alot if people buy tcl monitors and tvs theres alot of negative opinions from the scale of people who own them. Tcl made so much miney that they bought 51% of sony tv. Imagine being such a shit company that you can outright buy your "superior" competitor.
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>>108439889
lower latency = higher frame rate
nigger
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>>108439923
wrong
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>>108439913
Its just amd knowing that their cpus would suck if they didn't have it.

It reminds me of intels "l4" cache.
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>>108439923
60fps used to feel good because latency used to be good. now latency is bad and 60fps feels bad.
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>>108439906
I got a normal Acer IPS monitor, and I really hated it.
The edges of the screen felt really dark, even when looking directly at it.

And while I don't mind OLED, I just worry about burn in.
I game 50% and work 50% on my PC.

>if you really want a mini led get a 65" bravia 9
For daily gaming and desk work?
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>>108439944
>>108439954
frame times morons. the higher the frame rate the lower the frame times. lower latency all things being equal is a requirement for high throughput. just because modern games have a mile long render pipeline and windows has a retarded presentation model doesn't mean that fps don't matter. you are all simpletons. the faster you can render a frame the lower the latency and the higher the fps.
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Is PCIe backwards compatible? Can I put a PCIe5 GPU on a PCIe2 slot?
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>>108440012
ye
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>>108440012
>Can I put a PCIe5 GPU on a PCIe2 slot?
You can, but obviously the most speed you will get out of the slot is PCIe2 speeds. And you're wasting money getting a PCIe5 SSD/GPU/etc.
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>>108440012
>Can I put a PCIe5 GPU on a PCIe2 slot?
why? are you on x58 or smth?
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>>108440039
LGA775 and just won a 5070 in a raffle.
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>>108440052
Just sell it high now and then buy a new GPU when prices come back down to normal prices.
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>>108440052
you can probably buy a more balanced system if you sell it. what 775 cpu are you even running and on what os?
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>>108440066
>what 775 cpu are you even running and on what os?
E8400, 8GB DDR2, Windows 10.
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>>108440052
Go to ebay, search term "xeon workstation"
You're welcome
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>>108439952
if it was so easy then intel would have a counter for it already but america has no counter for aliens.
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>>108440083
>E8400
i also had one of those
i made a key chain thingy out of mine by drilling a hole in the heat spreader
anyways unless you wanna upgrade the rest of the pc i would just sell the gpu and build or buy a new pc. that cpu won't be much use with a 5070.
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>>108439985
he is a CRT autist, watch a video on gsync pulsar.
Independant flip is unrelated but it matters if you are not on windows 11 because windows 11 made fullscreen optimization "better", it only matters if you run at a FPS higher than 500 I believe (aka esports), and on windows 10 you would disable fullscreen optimizations which makes alt-tabbing slow and breaks some overlays.
Yes 500hz would look a lot better than 60hz, but 60hz on a CRT looks similar to 120hz on a hold-sample display (ips/oled). And that makes sense because if you understood how motionblur reduction works (MBR/BFI), the shitty implementation just runs at 2x fps (there is also software for 360hz+ displays that tries to emulate rolling scan forgot the name but people notice flicker and it's ONLY for retro games that run at 60hz, running 360hz is better). So even though the fps is 60hz, the backlight is actually driving the display at a higher granularity (you would need a much higher FPS to emulate).
Gsync pulsar is new but MBR/BFI is old tech that works similarly enough (some displays have better implementations than others) but nobody turns it on because VRR wont work, and it usually makes the display dark. But gsync pulsar is only for nvidia gpu's and linux won't work but someone said you can boot into windows and restart into linux and it will work. There are zowie dyac monitors which are similar, but works with AMD / linux, but no VRR and brightness is lower, and it's a TN display, and it's 1080p not 1440p (and something about only the center of the screen is clear, not the top or bottom).
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>>108440102
Amd doesn't have a counter to it.
3d vcache isn't amd, it's a tsmc technology that amd bought into.
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>>108440012
just give up, sell it, then go buy a ps6 when it comes out lmao.
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>4060Ti shits the bed after one year
>2060 Still running strong
Man I hate modern GPUs
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>>108440220
Anon you know that's just random bad luck right? Was it not under warranty?
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4070 shit the bad after one year
5070ti still running strong
man i just hate old gpus
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>>108440223
I had purchased a 3-year extended warranty on it.

>>108440224
>shit the bad
Can't copy paste? Gotta follow your shill script better anon.
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nigga actually bought a 4060ti
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chiplet gpus work best with chiplet cpus
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>>108440254
16Gb VRAM for less than $500 :-)
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>>108440317
other way to put it is
>60 class gpu for ~$500
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>>108440317
2GB or VRAM? What is this? 2010?
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>>108440327
Well its dead now and my money was returned so I guess the mistake has fixed itself
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>>108440220
Did you fry it with AI sloppa or what?
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>>108440371
I use both for AI sloppa, I don't see how I killed the newer one with that.
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>>108440545
It's just bad luck. My 980ti died, but I was dumb and didn't;t watch temps. Shit happens.
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Where are the new am4 CPUs that you guys were talking about?
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I'm tempted to buy this. Combo deal, extra $20 discount on top, Crimson Desert, two 1 tb gen 4 SSD for free. I know it sucks but still.
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I've asked this a few days ago and I got the AMD side, can anyone tell me the Intel side?
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/108378772/#q108381620
Where I'm coming from a way older Intel CPU, so I need to upgrade mobo + CPU. I'd rather not change my PSU if I don't have to.
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>>108440645
Back in my days 64GB of RAM costed 250 bucks.
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>>108440652
If you have a serviceable DDR4 kit (3200MT/s or faster XMP), get a 14600K with a DDR4 Z690/Z790 board.
If you're willing to go DDR5, the new Arrow Lake CPUs are probably fine for a 3090 (250K or 270K).
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>>108440662
Ask your grandpa how he bought a three bedroom house for 30k and raised his family of five while working at the local grocery store. His wife also loved him and they got a new family car every five or so years.
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>>108440676
I've got a 32GB DDR5 stick I bought when prices were increasing. It's a low end one though. Still way better than what I have now (DDR3).
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>>108439816
>AMD's processors have needed super high RAM speeds to work their best for years. It's not bad just because Intel is doing it now.
Intel really picked the wrong time to rely on other people's memory for their performance. Right now ram is turning into one of the biggest bottlenecks in budget builds.
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>>108440679
My grandpa was on the beaches of Normandy. He fought so that I may put jiggle physics in games that don't require them.
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>>108439952
>amd is so bad that they had to make a good cpu to look good
how do you even sleep at night
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>>108436052
>believes games journalists and reviewers who hate it because it doesn't push a political agenda thanks to being from a eastern developer
>every indie review says it's a refreshing ARPG in the sea of shit
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How does tom's hardware calculate their aggregated average FPS? Because I fear it's not normalized, which would give a lot of weight to games with a lot of FPS instead of equal weight or more weight to more demanding games.
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>>108437225
Arctic
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>>108440268
More like chiplet for faglet anon
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>>108440012
This is forward compatibility retard
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>>108441063
I bent forward you mom faggot
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>>108440057
>when prices come back down to normal prices.
Anon...
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>>108441012
Geometric mean solves this
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>>108441213
i have never not gone to the counter and handed the package off to an actual person and gotten a receipt
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>>108436037
>>GPU
>Nvidia
I kekked so hard my dog barked at me.
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>>108441304
Just wait for FSR Diamond, which will get two games implementing it before they swap to FSR Emerald.
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>>108441330
>Just wait for
Stop please, I'm gonna piss myself laughing
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>>108440810
Amd didn't make it, tsmc did.
Just like Intel didn't make arrow lake, tsmc did. The difference being that Intel didn't use tsmc's interconnect tech.
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>>108441405
Losing fab ability was a huge mistake for intel. How incompetent can you be?
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>>108441304
>>108441330
>>108441383
Why doesn't AMD hire the guys that made Lossless Scaling? They should be swimming in money from data center GPU sales.
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>>108441428
Why hire when Lossless/Optiscaler/losers on Linux will do it for free. AMD don't give a shit.
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Guy I know had an Intel branded B580. He bought it brand new for $250 and didn't realize there were growing pains in getting an intel dedicated GPU so went out and bought an RTX 5000 something or another. He's offering to sell the B580 to me for $150. Solid deal for 1440p? I'm willing to troubleshoot bullshit. I'm intending to build a poverty system and the B580 seems like a really good option of a GPU for $150.
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>>108441490
Can't beat that price if you're willing to deal with the early adopter pain.
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Xv9xYX

rate please. Because of my job I have constant access to old machines being recycled. The parts marked as purhcased are parts I got my hands on from old machines that were broken in some way shape or form.
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>>108441428
>They should be swimming in money from data center GPU sales
The do OK in datacenter apparently but it does not trickle down to consumer stuff.
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>>108441546
spend the extra $10 on the peerless assassin 140 instead of 120
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>>108441576
it's not even like $4 more expensive. However wouldn't I be better off just getting the phantom spirit for the same price? It's 7 pipes instead of 6. I only just saw it now.
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is this any good?
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>>108439609
this shit looks like the AI Generated HR training videos I had to watch for my job.

It's shit
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>>108441428
Because if AMD released something like Lossless Scaling they would be laughed out.
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so has anybody actually tweaked their games on the nvidia app?
one of my main complaints about a lot of older games is the UI doesn't scale up to higher resolutions as well, but it could also be fun to enable some of these settings if they're any good?
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>>108439368
>>108439432
show wattage
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>>108440220
unleaded solder?
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>>108440151
arrow lake is also made on tsmc, so intel's loss for not using it
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>>108442260
Has been standard for decades now.
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>>108436037
I was gonna ask what the situation on Ram is like but I guess it’s the same. I’m just asking because this fruitcake got on my nerves.

https://youtu.be/ctiZSRa3_2s
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>>108442836
RAM is currently in about $10/GB. It's not great, but it's not as bad as it used to be. YouTubers are being performativity outraged about how it's the end of the hobby. But it's really not.
If you were looking to drop over a grand on a PC, RAM going from $200 to $400 sucks, but it's not like you weren't planning on spending like $1500+ or something for a full build.
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1. Does anyone know where I can buy cloth mousepads with this mood? I am trying to combat all-black depression.

2. Is there any way to uncrease my larger desk mat after it was folded?
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>>108443300
get it custom made
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>>108443300
The future is now old man, just buy glass
I can never go back, it's just better
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>>108443345
>just buy glass
I literally used glass tables 15-20 years ago, they sucked. Cloth is warm, soft, cozy, and not sticky or greasy as well as quiet.
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I'm slowly realizing that a 5k2k UW monitor would be a bad idea
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>>108443876
1080p is all you need. 1440p max
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why the fuck does my card whine at 120w and up how unlucky am i
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>>108441428
Lossless Scaling's solution for FSR4 on Vulkan is a hack.
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>>108443516
did you ever use a glass mousepad? i guarantee you won't be able to go back
also what are you on about, mine gets warm pretty quick just from my body heat
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My 5090 fell from the pcie slot as I lifted the PC because I was convinced it was slotted in (it only fell into the case though)
Three days later it's still working

I wonder what was the likelihood of me destroying both my mobo and my gpu
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>>108441623
I had an LG model like that, it's solid but ultrawide 29 inches is pretty small. The actual vertical screen real estate is probably closer to 25. I wound up upgrading to a 30+ inch one
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>>108443300
Just get a custom one made with whatever Pic you want on it
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>>108445066
i'm the weirdo leaf slobbering over a 16:10 monitor so that feels kinda comfy
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Pulled the trigger on a PC, 9950X3D and a 5090 LC Astral. Disregarding how retarded I am for getting an LC model (got it for much cheaper than it's going for), I also ordered a beQuiet 13 Pro 1300W.

I hear these PSUs randomly explode. Is there some merit to it in your eyes /g/, did it happen to someone else here? Or is it just people being retarded? I still have an option to cancel that PSU and get another one.
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>>108445171
I've not heard that one before. Probably just retarded misinformation, a common thing in the PC building scene.
Fwiw I've been using a be quiet dark power 13 1000w psu in my 9800x3d/5090 astral build for months with zero issues whatsoever. 4k/120fps gaming all day every day in Cyberpunk and such.
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>>108443300
aliexpress has a million of them in different designs, pick whatever the fuck you want.
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>>108443052
bruh, the 64gig kit i bought feb 2025 is nearly 5x the cost that i paid for it. When its in stock, which it usually isnt.
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>>108441623
>wants an ultrawide
>looks at a 1080poverty monitor
thats a meme resolution that is in fact very poorly supported, 1440p ultrawide is the standard resolution for ultrawides and is widely supported by most games.
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>>108445204
Yeah not you ain't hitting real 120 at 4k in maxxed out Cyberpunk, even with DLSS P
I got a 5090 astral too
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>>108445264
Damn he a bad 5090
Sux2beyou
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>>108445281
>Silicon lottery can net you a 50% increase

Damn...
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>>108445242
Yeah but you don't need 64GB of RAM.
Yes, it's nice. But the difference between 64GB and 32GB in gaming is zero.
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>>108445313
irrelevant, the same kit still bounces around the 5x cost mark. And i love having more than i need, same with 1000w psu for a last-gen gpu, comfy and safe.
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>>108445320
Okay, but the point I'm making is that if you're going to spend $1500 on a PC, you're not going to decide you'd rather not have a PC because 64GB is $800 and you can't possibly settle for a $400 32GB kit instead.
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good idea to buy this from aliexpress? 350€ for a 9800x3d, shipped from france
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>>108445369
i wouldn't. If you're trying to nickle and dime your system this badly that you're gonna risk giving money to a scammer, you shouldn't be looking at a flagship cpu like that to begin with.
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>>108445369
Yeah, if you wanna.
We can be AliExpress 9800X3D buddies.
Mine came like this.
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>>108445369
I got my 5700x3d from aliexpress.
Check the store has been around awhile and has a decent score.
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ATX motherboard recommendations for 7900x3D?
The onboard NIC in mine shat the bed today
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>>108446007
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>>108446015
my slots are full already
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>>108446018
Slut.
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>>108436291
that's because you don't know how to read the chart, let me help you
the chart says:
"no one of these gpus can give you a good path tracing gaming experience therefore the most expensive card in the bunch is the worst one"
glad to help
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btw just bought a 1200w psu for my 9070xt, my pee cee is finalized until they release the 7800x3d on am4
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Will we truly not see the 6090 before 2028?
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Anyone have any advice on how to get out this stripped screw on a mobo? For some reason all four screws on the cpu fan guards were stripped, and I was able to get all of them out but this one. I've tried everything barring just drilling straight through it which I'm concerned could destroy the mobo. Any advice would be greatly helpful.
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>>108446250
you can probably tape everything up/ clean everything very well after (also remove the cmos battery) and just file a groove into the screw
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>>108446250
it's pretty fucked up, might need to use a dremel
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>>108446266
I dont know if I have enough clearance to do that, but this does seem like a good option? how would I best fully clean up to avoid a short once I boot it up?
>>108446271
would there be a risk from the vibrations using this would cause? for reference I have the CPU already installed and have had the computer just sitting with everything attached aside from the GPU for months
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>>108446376
just leave it there then
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>>108446384
I can't mount the CPU fan I have without removing this retarded plastic guard. I was already able to remove the part on the opposite side, as well as the other screw on the guard with the mega stripped screw
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>>108446396
can you grab it with a plyer?
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>>108446250

shape tool to screw find hard hot glue let it cool and try your luck
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>>108446376
>how would I best fully clean up to avoid a short once I boot it up?
protect the cpu socket which is the most sensitive part. protect the pcie slots and ram slots. don't get anything into usb, nvme and sata ports. compressed air would be ideal but if you ground the mobo with a turned off psu you should be able to just use a vacuum cleaner (without a plastic nozzle) i think. also keep a good distance from the mobo if you use a vacuum cleaner. you can also use a magnet and a brush to get most off.
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>>108446250
Can you not just remove the backplate?
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>>108446018
Also if you have all your m.2 slots filled, usb networking adapters are fine for the internet.
If you have 10Gbps internet or something, you could technically use the m.2 slot for a 4x pcie device (but you need to read your mobo specs, it's possible that you lost your m.2 slot because you filled a certain pcie slot or some jank). It's also possible you have a thunderbolt 3 or something adapter for your brand (but they typically require the pcie slot, but like I said you can use the m.2 slot).
Pic unrelated, you must print it, chinese instructions, and I don't think you can just buy the chip presoldered from the printing site.
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I already baked a thread you jigaboo

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>>108436076
path tracing and other absurdly inefficient vendor-locked memes will be dead in 18 months but u should still probly get nvidia
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do i need to use all three 8-pin connectors for my new 5080? i can't find my spare cables and i only have two.

the corsair cable on amazon i was looking at only has two 8-pins, so im confused here if all three are needed
https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Premium-Individually-Sleeved-12V-2x6/dp/B0G453F3JQ/?_encoding=UTF8



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