>Software engineering is pretty much over.What is the plan now? I have no other skills.I can't even talk people more than 5 seconds, especially women. I actively avoid them. Not gay tho.
Rope
how many threads are gonna have on thiswhere is /ai/ like GrapeApe promised
>>108437113>how many threads are gonna have on thisidk, maybe because 99% of us will be jobless in 1 year.
>>108437113Bro, we don't even have fucking webp support yet...I've heard hiroshima nagasaki is doing some bullshit vr social media thing in Japan. Maybe 4chan is going to be sold soon.
>>108437123You were shilling the exact same shit last year
>>108437123agi status?>>108437113>where is /ai/this. all boards at this point would benefit from the dedicated containment zone.
cooked is the gayest euphemism. it was slightly endearing at first but the overuse is completely grating and now if you say it unironically i know you're stupid.
>>108437123It will take a lot longer but if you are not accumulating capital now you will regret it later.
>>108437162GrapeApe, rightfully so, will not implement /ai/. AI enhances human productivity 100-1000x. An /ai/ containment board would force every other board to be preposterously less productive. Face it. AI is the future and AI is mandatory to keep up. Every board must become even more AI integrated if they have any hope of keeping up with the AI native civilization springing up beneath our feet as we speak. You're either Homo AI or you're a Left Behind Luddite.
>>108437180i'm esl, what does "cooked" mean, apart from like preparing food?
You guys are all retarded. I already found a new job: fixing vibecoded slop for companies that realized how badly AI fucked them and I keep getting more calls by the day. Gonna need to start hiring soon.
>>108437070didnt he say something similar like a year ago? sounds like hes running out of cash
>>108437162Replacing programmers does not require AGI.
>>108437113/ai/ is a general purpose tech that's invading every aspect. a separate board makes as sense as much as a separate board for internet.
>>108437070Why does "AI" have to "review" the code it writes?
>>108437249you're cooked nigger, cooked.what part of that you don't understand?
>>108437256I don't have a CS job pajeet, i saw the future of that dreadful field ages ago. I just enjoy it as a hobby.Now answer the question.
>>108437256Lol i wish.I have more work than ever. All thanks to idiot vibesloppers.
>>108437070you can repeat it as much as you want that's not gonna make it true.rope now.
>>108437197Rather be left behind than soulless husk of a human that acts solely as an ignorant automata.
>>108437070>trusting AI to review codelol, just fucking lolImagine writing a program and claiming it's 100% secure without anyone actually looking at a single line of code. Imagine fucking banking infrastructure coded and reviewed entirely by AI and trusting it. Maybe this is good if you're vibecoding an app just for yourself, but that's it. And no, I'm not a coping codemonkey, I have a real job that doesn't go through constant cycles of mass layoffs and hiring sprees like techfags have to deal with.
>>108437130get a new image autist
>>108437206How does that differ from just being a normal programmer? Is there any special skill to unfucking AI codebases other than just being a good programmer in general?
>>108437070>Software engineering is pretty much over.Declares increasingly nervous and sweaty tech CEO for the 6th time this year.
>>108437544Anthropic literally wrote the C compiler you dumb cunt.
>>108437565That vibecoded piece of shit is compromised by nature and will never ever be used by anyone.
>>108437070Nah. I was kind of scared last year but these tools in the hands of "new" juniors (that is people who never programmed without vibecoding) is basically useless for anything that isn't a simple script. These new juniors can barely understand basic SQL, it's going to be a shitshow if you let them alone with AI.You can say that I'm coping or whatever but I literally got a raise. I'm not anti-AI, it's just that it's not going to kill SWE. I'm sorry coping no-coder neetbros. We all know you have never worked as professional programmers btw.
>>108437070web cucks, specifically, browser "front-end" fucks, are the most vulnerable to this. because most of their job is repetitive, while the field is already filled with a significant quantity of incompetents. additionally, the cost of failure on the front-end doesn't lead to a gazillion dollars of damages, unlike say, back-end, infrastructure or embedded. good riddance tho.
>>108437585>i-it works but it's written by AI so no one will use itwhat kind of cope is this?
>>108437601anon, do you know how much time, effort and money it takes for corporations to entertain a new C compiler? lol
>>108437601Literally no one is ever using the C compiler.
>>108437201I believe it comes from this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling_frog?useskin=vector
>>108437516????It shows filesize/quality differences and tests not only the really shit ass JPG encoder from the 90s but also the modern jpegli one. As a huge bonus it even includes the test files so you can see the proof yourself.
>>108437619that* fuck
>>108437611that's not the point.the point is some woman who deepthroated her boss can just tell AI to build an app and it will do it without any developers, fully functional.
>>108437517Nta, but slop fuckups probably have some sort of pattern to them that you could specialize on
>>108437640Be honest, have you ever worked as a programmer (not le freelancer but in a corporation or startup)?
>>108437565>>108437601>i-it works it doesn't work. it can't even compile a hello world. it entirely skips the type checking and uses a single register for all operations. you would know this, if you would actually tried it, but you clearly haven't.
>>108437640This fantastical delusion of the `non-programmer programming everything future` is not happening with current """"AI""".No, running some random TODO app pulled from Github is not programming.
>>108437070If you actually check in on the code it generates, its insane bloat
>>108437654>>108437659>>108437674stop samefagging.
streetshitters are not sentient
>>108437674>creates a browser>creates a c compiler>actually your average 90iq dev can do BETTER!
>>108437688>SARR NO STOP DISAGREES WITH MY PROPAGANDA SPAMNot very good at this pajeet, that 0.1 rupee raise is looking pretty far away.....
>>108437702>clones a chromium fork from github>clones TCC from githubDid you atleast make the logo yourself?
>>108437688I'll take that as a No.And I know, since you think making software, especially in a hellish corporate setting, is just shitting out code.
>>108437717Both of them are written in rust you dumbass.
>>108437732so firefox and gcc are done then?Why isn't this news?
>>108437741Because they are slow.1 year ago 200 lines of functional code was hard for AIs.Now imagine in 1 year.
>>108437702>compiler that required the full test suite of gcc, gcc itself to compare output to, and an anthropic engineer to keep stopping the "agents" from running into walls>compiler that required two weeks, 20000 in api calls, and the time and attention of an anthropic engineer anyways>still hit a wall and fail to implement the rest, resorting to using gcc itself in the final product and marketing scheme>date of compilation is hardcoded to 1 jan 2025 in every output>fail to access libraries despite standard paths, resulting in the first issue being "can't compile hello world">all of that while the company remains unprofitable as a whole and even inference alone operating at a loss.didn't look at the browser but I have no doubt it's the exact same shitty scam that's intended for jeets and retarded middle managers.
>>108437761But how can they be slow if they're in Rust (The fastest language)?
>>108437640That isn't happening until AGI, something that actually thinks, exists. For the simple reason that those roasties don't understand how software is made at all.I've had to sit in so many fucking meetings seeing how these people "make" software with the AI-powered internal tools my company has made/bought, or with normal vibecoded programs. They always end up begging a real programmer to come help and fix their shit. They can't understand what needs to be done to fix it. They end up in a loop of unconscious incompetence where they don't know what they don't know. Sometimes it's possible to fix, sometimes it ends up as a forgotten MVP no one uses.Nowadays, I think software engineers can indeed go faster with AI and do a lot of stuff, but quality is going down the drain. At least in the case of my company, there are bugs everywhere.>bugs always existedOf course, but it's worse now.
the fuck is going on here
What will happen to software engineering now that the hardest part is almost free now? Prompting claude is not a real job - I feel like a fraud whenever I deliver something.
>>108437070Well it seems to suck at comedy writing, so there's that if you want a desk job
>>108437113If they make /ai/ then they should make /cc/ (computers and coding) so that /g/ can have some actual technology talk instead of the same retarded threads about C, C++ Rust, Linux and unemployed/employed codefags over and over.
>>108438270Jeets will happen. And I'm not talking about jeets that move to the west, I mean jeets in india.
>>108437070>jew saying jewish things to jew the goycattlei hate God's cursed people soo much!
>>108437674>non-programmer programming everything futureIt NEEDS to happen, one way or another. As it stands not everyone can read source code let alone write and compile it. Technology is a system of control for globohomo and the only way that can change is if people who are willing or able to leave the control system behind can use technology to better their own lives and the lives of others. TempleOS wasn't built with the same mindset or philosophy that has dominated computing since its inception. Computing is absolutely boomerific and it needs to be fixed or things will start going downhill faster than you can say bullshit.
>>108437113>RapeApeYou actually listened to the guy who is in public record having admitted that he amplified /pol/ content across the rest of the site so he could "win the culture war"? That nigger is literally responsible for 4chan's decline.
>>108438193Textile workers angry about automated looms.
>>108437544https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnYaExb5JvM
given that you care about what nobodies on twitter say you're too low iq for software engineering
>>108437070> hackers coax AI to introduce back doors> "oh no we've been hacked"surprise pikachu faces
>>108437249Ideally perfect AI doesn't have to review their own code, but I think he is still speaking in terms of current limitation where LLM only have limited context. You could have a weaker model to write the implementation and then proof-read using a stronger model. Also there exists tools that only get run during formal CICD pipeline, so if the pipeline found style inconsistency or ran into vulnerability concern, AI should be able to take their suggestion and address them (as in a review).
Maybe there is no jobs positions, but sure as hell there is more work because there is more complexity applied over the production pipeline.
>>108437123I thought it was two weeks??
>>108437180it's safe advertising friendly speech please understand
>>108437070>CEO of toy company says in a year everyone will be buying and using toys
>>108437070I hate AI, but even I must admit it's over. some guys on my team went balls-deep into learning this shit, and they are already like 10x more productive than me. I am not even exaggerating. my days are numbered, because I refuse to learn and use that AI shit. I think I will ride the wave as long as possible, and then go into full-on Leaving Las Vegas mode. savings should last me a couple of years.
>>108439499>I am not even exaggerating.I have my doubts.In any case, I don't think jews thought this through.
>I hate AI, but *Fanfic*
>>108439508that one motherfucker closes tasks faster than I can review them. the code is pretty solid. when I ask him for a review, he just sends me AI review. my boss is starting to ask why shit takes me so long to finish. it's over.
>>108439523A lot of posts lately have this format where they shill by pretending to be actual programmers. It's like streetshitting but in this board.
Why do they keep hiring software developers then?
>>108437070it is ogre.i asked ai to program me html web page. it done it with 100% accuracy.i thought it was a fluke.so i asked ai to program me web browser game and it done with 100% accuracy.i thought i t was a fluke.so i done a test no man could and asked ai to program me standalone python interface with rust and mongo db backend doom game. and ai done it.i gave up on everything and i can't function. anymore.it is ogre.>>108437113no need for it since it is part of tech and negatively impacts hardware prices/causes 90% of bugs via expert vibecoded star trek nu-gen worse than webdev tards hence it is relevant to here.
>>108437070Didn't he say the same thing like 4 times before and each time it was "in a year..." (Anthropic is still hiring SWEs, btw).
>>108440068>>108440353it's about how many they are hiring. ask in /utwg/.
>>108437517You're basically just a full time bug fixer. You don't write new code, you just troubleshoot existing code and fix it.
>>108437180you're gonna get another decade of it, minimum. the normalfags have a way of beating dead horses into dust that you have to witness to understand>>108437197a board for ai meta discussion would still be valuable i think
>>108439499>my days are numbered, because I refuse to learn and use that AI shitoldfag who destroyed all opportunities due to my stubborn disposition: it's not worth it unless you're exceptionally talented or committed to a mutually exclusive alternativethere's no one at the end that says " good job you're so principled! here's a million dollars!" you're just poor and bitter and your peers now have face tattoos and STDsyou can retain and develop your philosophical position while cautiously utilizing the technology. missing out doesn't give you anything, it's irrational by any standard
>>108439414>weaker model to write the implementation and then proof-read using a stronger modelsurely you can see the problem here
>>108437070>That phenotype Can AI exterminate vermin in death camps yet?
>>108437565Is that Dennis Ritchie's pseudonym or something?
>>108437496The only people who think its okay are people trying to sell AI
>>108437070>that nose
Boats are technology.
>>108439499>t. frontend monkey
>>108437070>What is the plan now?Become a NEET, get on unemployment benefits and live off of vibecoder's taxes.
>>108437070>hated working at large corps so always ended up at scrappy startups and <50 head SMEs>Con: always paid less than big corp FANG brogrammers>Con: never have enough time to specialise and master any skillset so always feel like a bit of a dumbass >Pros: have to do everything from customer support to product design to server admin to working with CEOs, etc, etc>Pro/Con: jack of all trades master of none>mfw AI comes along"full stack" sisters we are eating good! Software dev as a role is evolving into a full stack product/business developer where you'll not only need to understand full stack app tech but also how the entire business works from CS to sales and be able to integrate AI into it.
>>108445356unemployment can only go so far. you need a longer term grift.like me.
Of course the CEO of the company that makes the biggest AI coding assistant says that, how fucking dumb are you all.
>man who sells ai tools says you need to buy ai tools
>>108437130lack of webp support cuts down on low effort spam with random google images and reddit and encourages finding and holding onto quality picturesif you really gotta post a webp, converting it takes just a few seconds on pc, and on mobile, lmao get fucked
>>108437070I just want to get fired with a good severance package. I probably can survive 20 years on my savings and my body is already falling apart anyway.
imagine working
